what do you nerds do for living? - discuss career possibilities

[CheffoJeffo]

Canada isnt going to get the work either! You Canadians make too much money too! Just ask any company and they will tell you!

I'm not saying that they are ... just suggesting that they already did (you may have been in high school, sleeping through social studies and may have missed it ... it was very sneaky, but the jobs did move from the US to another country ... there was a free trade agreement in North America before NAFTA).

You keep suggesting that people buy American and, quite frankly, Ford has been quite adept at manufacturing elsewhere for a very long time. Hell, you touted the superior quality of a Ford model built in Mexico as a reason to buy American! (nice one!)

You may not like Toyota, but my Toyota was actually built in the USA, unlike all 3 of my Fords and all 4 of the Fords that my father-in-law has purchased (all new). My own father, who is a car snob (still driving his 300ZXtt because it is so damned pretty and so ---smurfing--- fast) and has almost always bought Japanese or Euro, has owned 3 Fords ... not one of those Fords were built in the USA.

So, between the 3 of us, we have purchased 10 Ford vehicles and it is my Hondas and Toyota that were built in the USA.

I'm all for sticking up for your country and your company, but you seem to be doing both without any consistency between the two.

 

[ChadTower]

My wife's Hyundai was built in the midwest US and is a better value than anything Ford could produce.

[danny_galaga]

In short, I agree with Fordman in general about unions. The pigs at the trough would have you believe unions are irrelevant now, but as soon as unions are gone, companies will have absolutely no compulsion to look after your rights. That $2000-$4000 per car? You think they'll sell the car $2000-$4000 cheaper? Hip pocket, my friend. But go ahead, work 20 hours overtime a week without any penalty rates. CEO's luxury yachts don't come from thin air. Take it like a man. In Australia, we don't have to

Wow does that statement come straight from the union manual?  Union guys really soak their union leader propaganda stuff up.  

You want to discuss CEO's high salaries?  Why dont we discuss how much the head of the UAW makes?  I can guarantee you its no small sum.

I'm not a hard core unionist. It would be equally valid to say you've soaked up 'The Man's' propaganda.

And i'm in Australia, no Teamsters or whatever here. You really should read 'Going Postal'. The author isn't a unionist either as far as i can tell. He used to be a commodities trader. And if we talk about high salaries, yes i bet the head of the UAW makes a tidy sum. But i bet it's still magnitudes smaller than most CEO's...

Sorry LLuncoolJ, I'll quit hijacking your thread.

I'm that type of guy...

[ChadTower]

But i bet it's still magnitudes smaller than most CEO's...

I bet it isn't and I've done the same amount of research you have.   

[WunderCade]

RONALD GETTELFINGER,  PRESIDENT of the UAW

According to the US Dept. of Labor his 2007 compensation was $163,075.

$163,075 a year for a union of 464,910 members in 2007. That is a very low ratio. As far as organizations this size, he is working for peanuts.

[pinballwizard79]

The union sued my former employer, they had to let all the non union employees go. This was just a few months ago, a great time to be job hunting let me tell you. The union also works against my family members who are small business owners. Unions drive up labor costs on products, strike & cry when "scabs" are working & then tell all of us non union folks we are scum for not buying their product because its the LAST ---smurfing--- thing made in America......I mean Mexico......I mean Canada.

Again the only people who care about the union are those in the union. Somehow we care about our troops, police, teachers & etc but no one gives a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- about some picket line umbrella monkeys with a chip on their shoulder.

I will avoid buying anything affiliated with the union. I will buy the car that is dependable. Unions pushed themselves in a corner by screwing over everyone but themselves. They are a unification of selfish people with only their own best interest in mind, not the "peoples".

Union workers buy foreign crap all day long, everything in your house, the keybord you are using to say "nu huh" & etc. Why do you guys think its ok to buy foreign stuff unless its a car? What is so damn magical about cars made in Mexico that pisses you off so much?

Do you not realize you take pride in building something that consumes the most hated imported product in the planet?

OIL.

You brag to make something in America that runs on nothing found in America

---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.

What in the world do you have to say about that Mr "Made in America to create demand for imported war"?

[danny_galaga]

The union sued my former employer, they had to let all the non union employees go. This was just a few months ago, a great time to be job hunting let me tell you. The union also works against my family members who are small business owners. Unions drive up labor costs on products, strike & cry when "scabs" are working & then tell all of us non union folks we are scum for not buying their product because its the LAST ---smurfing--- thing made in America......I mean Mexico......I mean Canada.

Again the only people who care about the union are those in the union. Somehow we care about our troops, police, teachers & etc but no one gives a ---Cleveland steamer--- about some picket line umbrella monkeys with a chip on their shoulder.

I will avoid buying anything affiliated with the union. I will buy the car that is dependable. Unions pushed themselves in a corner by screwing over everyone but themselves. They are a unification of selfish people with only their own best interest in mind, not the "peoples".

Union workers buy foreign crap all day long, everything in your house, the keybord you are using to say "nu huh" & etc. Why do you guys think its ok to buy foreign stuff unless its a car? What is so damn magical about cars made in Mexico that pisses you off so much?

Do you not realize you take pride in building something that consumes the most hated imported product in the planet?

OIL.

You brag to make something in America that runs on nothing found in America

---Cleveland steamer---.

What in the world do you have to say about that Mr "Made in America to create demand for imported war"?

Pssst. Over here ---> http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=93080.0

[ChadTower]

RONALD GETTELFINGER,  PRESIDENT of the UAW

According to the US Dept. of Labor his 2007 compensation was $163,075.

$163,075 a year for a union of 464,910 members in 2007. That is a very low ratio. As far as organizations this size, he is working for peanuts.

...and if you believe a person with the power of the head of the UAW is only pulling in what his publicly listed salary happens to be then you haven't paid much attention to the entire history of humanity.