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« on: May 07, 2009, 01:44:51 pm »
Just seen the film at my local cinema.  There was a showing at 11:00am and there was about 5 people in the entire place.

JJ Abrams did a great job, and I enjoyed it.  I would say it is better than First Contact for action.

Go see it.

I give it 9 stars out of 10.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2009, 02:06:41 pm »
I thought it wasnt coming out till tomorrow????

Howard Stern rated it as possibly the best movie he's ever seen.  

Not that he is a critically acclaimed movie critic but I've found I usually agree with his opinions on sci-fi/comic book movies.

Everything I've heard about the movie is that its excellent.

I cant wait to see it.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2009, 02:16:29 pm »
Howard Stern rated it as possibly the best movie he's ever seen.  


He said the same thing about Private Parts.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2009, 02:39:22 pm »
He said the same thing about Private Parts.

He is awefully proud of that movie.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2009, 02:39:57 pm »
I thought it wasnt coming out till tomorrow????

Howard Stern rated it as possibly the best movie he's ever seen.  

Not that he is a critically acclaimed movie critic but I've found I usually agree with his opinions on sci-fi/comic book movies.

Everything I've heard about the movie is that its excellent.

I cant wait to see it.

Yeah sorry, out in the UK today, but one cinema (the Odeon) had a 00:30 showing.

I will reserve my remarks about the film until later on in the week.  I hate it when people discuss film and the plots in a thread, and you haven't seen the film yet.  I gave it 9 of of 10 for only one reason. 
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2009, 02:42:25 pm »
So would you have given it a 10 out of 10 except for this one reason or would you have given it a lesser rating except for this one reason.  I'm assuming the former.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2009, 03:25:49 pm »
I went to the Dutch premiere of the Star Trek movie yesterday. I have to agree, it's a great movie. It's not so much aimed at trekkies, but I'd say that was a good thing. Even my GF loved the movie (and it wasn't just because she got her picture taken on the red carpet).
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2009, 03:29:53 pm »
I went to the Dutch premiere of the Star Trek movie yesterday. I have to agree, it's a great movie. It's not so much aimed at trekkies, but I'd say that was a good thing. Even my GF loved the movie (and it wasn't just because she got her picture taken on the red carpet).


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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2009, 04:44:33 pm »
Talking of pants, I notice that they've reintroduced the 60s style miniskirts in the new movie. That's got to be worth the price of admission alone.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2009, 06:00:48 pm »
Is anyone else absolutely curious as to how this will fare in theatres?  What's everyone's guess?  I'll take a stab at 45 million.  I really have no clue.  It's an "old" franchise that most young people today may or may not accept, due to that very fact that their elders and the older generations grew up with it.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2009, 06:06:28 pm »
Talking of pants, I notice that they've reintroduced the 60s style miniskirts in the new movie. That's got to be worth the price of admission alone.
Yeah Uhura was wearing a rather short skirt (and even less at some point).

Is anyone else absolutely curious as to how this will fare in theatres?  What's everyone's guess?  I'll take a stab at 45 million.  I really have no clue.  It's an "old" franchise that most young people today may or may not accept, due to that very fact that their elders and the older generations grew up with it.
This whole movie seemed to me like a setup for a whole new series of movies in the franchise. I hope it does well and that new episodes come out. So far it's getting really good critiques.

I found this "review" of the movie:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM[/youtube]
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2009, 08:36:31 pm »
FWIW, it opened today in the states as well.  The official website says it opens Thursday and it is playing today at my local theaters.  I'm seeing it tomorrow, though.  Mother in law came in town today, so we have a babysitter, but tickets for todays showings were all sold out.

BTW, Private Parts was a good movie.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2009, 09:44:04 pm »
BTW, Private Parts was a good movie.


Yes, but it's not the best movie that anyone has ever seen.  Since he keeps saying it is... and he says that about this... he's a dumbass.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2009, 10:16:37 pm »
Ah ha.  I've never listened to his radio show.  Never been in a market that carried it and never had Sirius.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2009, 05:49:05 am »
Rotten Tomatoes reviewers are gushing over it.  That was the final piece in a "Do I see it or not? " puzzle (I am a Trek fan, but not insanely die hard) was what the reviewers thought.

Screw the 45 million projection - if it's as good as I've heard, it may be the first film to give "The Dark Knight" a run for it's money.


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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2009, 08:12:53 am »
Ah ha.  I've never listened to his radio show.  Never been in a market that carried it and never had Sirius.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2009, 10:02:09 am »
I thought it was fantastic.  You can see the movie without knowing anything about Star Trek and have a great time.  There are also enough references to the originals (particularly Wrath of Kahn) to keep the fanboys happy.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2009, 10:06:11 am »
Never was a huge fan of Star Trek...not even really a fan....Ive watched all the movies and 2 of the series...the original and next generation. So I knew enough to get by.

I'm more of the star wars persuasion. And honestly...I will say that this flick was better than all 3 of the new star wars movies combined.

The casting was great, story was damn good, and the FX were awesome. I wasn't bored during the movie at all. I actually had fun watching the movie. Can't say that for a lot of flicks I've seen this year.

Definitely worth seeing if you are a trek fan or not.

Also....go see it in IMAX if you can. HD picture and digital audio make it an orgasmic feast for the senses.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2009, 10:24:03 am »
I remember seeing the first trailers and thinking this was gonna be a stinking pile of pop trash. I'm thinking now that maybe the wife and I may have a date night tonight to go see it.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2009, 11:08:53 am »
I remember seeing the first trailers and thinking this was gonna be a stinking pile of pop trash.

Yeah, the trailers have made me not want to watch it at all, but the good reviews I'm hearing might persuade me to go.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2009, 11:25:58 am »

Are people really taking seriously the fact that the intarwebs likes Star Trek?

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2009, 11:31:32 am »

Are people really taking seriously the fact that the intarwebs likes Star Trek?

Rottentomatoes ratings are pretty much spot on in my opinion. I rarely - if ever - have disagreed with their overall number or summary.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2009, 11:38:56 am »
I remember seeing the first trailers and thinking this was gonna be a stinking pile of pop trash. I'm thinking now that maybe the wife and I may have a date night tonight to go see it.

I think some of the footage from the early trailers did not make the final cut.  Particularly the scene showing them building the Enterprise in space.  They really went easy on the Enterprise footage which I think helped.  Seems like the first few movies spent 10 minutes or more flying around the ship so the audience could gaze at it.  This was much snappier.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2009, 11:42:07 am »
Seems like the first few movies spent 10 minutes or more flying around the ship so the audience could gaze at it.  This was much snappier.

Need I remind you of the seemingly endless flyby the Enterprise did on V-ger in the 1st movie. Damn, that was agonizingly bad and boring.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2009, 12:01:32 pm »
Screw the 45 million projection - if it's as good as I've heard, it may be the first film to give "The Dark Knight" a run for it's money.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2009, 01:01:03 pm »
Screw the 45 million projection - if it's as good as I've heard, it may be the first film to give "The Dark Knight" a run for it's money.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2009, 01:14:34 pm »
HarumaN, are you talking about it's total gross or just opening weekend?  Seriously, this thing will take in well WAY more than that overall.  X-men Origins: Wolverine opened to $85 million.  We're talking about a number 4 sequel/spinoff (or prequel, I guess) after number 3 was really really bad.  Seriously . . . you're right that this will not displace Dark Knight, but $45 million is an incredibly low prediction, especially considering that it opened a day early (on a Thursday rather than a Friday).

Dr. Seuss's Horton Hears a Who did $45 million.  XXX (that Vin Diesel action movie) did $44.5 million opening weekend.  You really think that a Star Trek reboot with the kind of hype and reviews this movie is getting could underperform XXX?  No way.  This movie will probably have a $90 million opening.  Not a $45 million opening.

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Also, keep in mind the competition.  The only other movie opening up this weekend is Next Day Air.  Seriously?  You think that's going to draw anyone away from Star Trek?  Then there's Wolverine -- for one thing it's already been out for a week, and for another there's almost nobody in the world that would be interested in a movie like Wolverine, but not Star Trek.  For another, Wolverine is getting mediocre reviews at best, while Star Trek is being raved about by everyone.  Then there's Ghosts of Girlfriends Past.  That's it.  That's the competition.  

Star Trek will have a huge opening, and a huge total gross.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2009, 01:17:39 pm »
I'm pretty sure he meant total gross....

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2009, 01:49:17 pm »
I expect $90 million or so.

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« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2009, 01:55:23 pm »
Oh yeah, I agree that 45 mil is way too low...  but to suggest it's going to approach Dark Knight opening gross ($155.3 mil, btw) is just crazy.  ::)

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« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2009, 02:13:21 pm »
Seems like the first few movies spent 10 minutes or more flying around the ship so the audience could gaze at it.  This was much snappier.

Need I remind you of the seemingly endless flyby the Enterprise did on V-ger in the 1st movie. Damn, that was agonizingly bad and boring.

Yeah that was pretty painful.

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« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2009, 09:21:26 pm »
After reading review after review in papers and online, I'll have to up my guess, but I still question whether just the connotation of hearing the words "Star Trek" will keep some younger people, and even 20/30 somethings away.  I'll say...60 million.
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« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2009, 09:26:28 pm »
After reading review after review in papers and online, I'll have to up my guess, but I still question whether just the connotation of hearing the words "Star Trek" will keep some younger people, and even 20/30 somethings away.  I'll say...60 million.
I dunno.  I work with kids and it seems like they don't have the same ideas about that stuff that some others (we?) did when we were their age.  I think it'll attract a variety of people.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2009, 09:49:12 pm »

 Gota say, It was a  decent movie.

  The actors were really good.  Looked the part, and really made the characters
believable.  In fact, the characters portrayed seemed much more believable
than the original series cast.

 I was waiting the Classic lines... and when they came on,
it was a little cool.. but also a little cheezy too.

 A few things I didnt like:

1) At times, it felt like there was TOO Much on the screen.  The special effects
were WAY Overdone.  Too many collisions, explosions, particles, etc.  The enemy
ship was like a porcupine mass, which wasnt very nice either.

2) It felt a bit too rushed... and more like an introduction than an adventure. (which is
a bit to be expected.  This wasnt quite the case with Batman begins however)
Hopefully a sequel will improve things...

3) The Theater playing the film had the Volume up so high, it was painful to the
ear.  I had to stuff bits of napkin into my ears to make it bearable.  Im getting
Very tired of this crap.  Ive warned them about this last time I went...   Maybe
its time to start a Lawsuit up.   I could only imagine if someone brought a child
to the show.

 (And trust me, I like my music very loud.  But, its very different when its
heavy Mid-Range... and high frequency screeching and screaming noises.  Such
things are exactly what causes permanent hearing damages)

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2009, 03:45:19 am »
The actors were really good.  Looked the part, and really made the characters believable.  In fact, the characters portrayed seemed much more believable than the original series cast.
I felt the actors tried very hard to mimic the style and mannerisms of the original actors.

I felt the Scottish accent of that English guy was pathetic though. Didn't really sound Scottish to me at all. More like Gloucester ...

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3) The Theater playing the film had the Volume up so high, it was painful to the ear.  I had to stuff bits of napkin into my ears to make it bearable. 
I go to movies reasonably often and I don't usually have trouble with the volume, but in this case I felt the volume was way to loud too. Indeed especially the mid tones were annoyingly loud to the extent that indeed it was painful.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2009, 06:04:42 am »

Was going to see it last night but went to a rugby match instead (Aust beat NZ 38-10!)

So saw it a few hours ago instead with a friend. Second time for him, he really loves it. I thought it was fine. I like how the guy playing Kirk seems to channel Shatner, he did a great job. I'd give it 3.5/5.

Oh, and i saw in the credits that Winona Ryder was in it? I don't remember seeing her...

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2009, 06:48:41 am »

I felt the Scottish accent of that English guy was pathetic though. Didn't really sound Scottish to me at all. More like Gloucester ...


Lol, I haven't see the new movie yet but it's worth mentioning that the original "Scotty" had a pretty dodgy Scottish accent as well. IIRC he was actually Canadian.

Incidentally, how on earth is a guy from Holland able to differentiate between different British regional accents? I'm impressed.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2009, 06:55:22 am »
I didn't know until just recently, that James Doohan fought on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day, and lost a finger. :o
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« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2009, 07:32:17 am »
Oh, and i saw in the credits that Winona Ryder was in it? I don't remember seeing her...
I'd say she was someones mom.
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« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2009, 07:53:35 am »

I felt the Scottish accent of that English guy was pathetic though. Didn't really sound Scottish to me at all. More like Gloucester ...


Lol, I haven't see the new movie yet but it's worth mentioning that the original "Scotty" had a pretty dodgy Scottish accent as well. IIRC he was actually Canadian.

Incidentally, how on earth is a guy from Holland able to differentiate between different British regional accents? I'm impressed.
Lol, well obviously I can't since I completely accepted Scottie's accent (though obviously exaggerated)

Speaking about odd accents, why would Checkov be unable to pronounce the letter "V"? Is that a reference to the original series? It's the last letter of his own name for crying out loud! The letter he replaces it with, the W, actually does not exist in Russian!
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