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« on: May 07, 2009, 01:44:51 pm »
Just seen the film at my local cinema.  There was a showing at 11:00am and there was about 5 people in the entire place.

JJ Abrams did a great job, and I enjoyed it.  I would say it is better than First Contact for action.

Go see it.

I give it 9 stars out of 10.

Sorry no spoilers.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2009, 02:06:41 pm »
I thought it wasnt coming out till tomorrow????

Howard Stern rated it as possibly the best movie he's ever seen.  

Not that he is a critically acclaimed movie critic but I've found I usually agree with his opinions on sci-fi/comic book movies.

Everything I've heard about the movie is that its excellent.

I cant wait to see it.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2009, 02:16:29 pm »
Howard Stern rated it as possibly the best movie he's ever seen.  


He said the same thing about Private Parts.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2009, 02:39:22 pm »
He said the same thing about Private Parts.

He is awefully proud of that movie.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2009, 02:39:57 pm »
I thought it wasnt coming out till tomorrow????

Howard Stern rated it as possibly the best movie he's ever seen.  

Not that he is a critically acclaimed movie critic but I've found I usually agree with his opinions on sci-fi/comic book movies.

Everything I've heard about the movie is that its excellent.

I cant wait to see it.

Yeah sorry, out in the UK today, but one cinema (the Odeon) had a 00:30 showing.

I will reserve my remarks about the film until later on in the week.  I hate it when people discuss film and the plots in a thread, and you haven't seen the film yet.  I gave it 9 of of 10 for only one reason. 
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2009, 02:42:25 pm »
So would you have given it a 10 out of 10 except for this one reason or would you have given it a lesser rating except for this one reason.  I'm assuming the former.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2009, 03:25:49 pm »
I went to the Dutch premiere of the Star Trek movie yesterday. I have to agree, it's a great movie. It's not so much aimed at trekkies, but I'd say that was a good thing. Even my GF loved the movie (and it wasn't just because she got her picture taken on the red carpet).
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2009, 03:29:53 pm »
I went to the Dutch premiere of the Star Trek movie yesterday. I have to agree, it's a great movie. It's not so much aimed at trekkies, but I'd say that was a good thing. Even my GF loved the movie (and it wasn't just because she got her picture taken on the red carpet).


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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2009, 04:44:33 pm »
Talking of pants, I notice that they've reintroduced the 60s style miniskirts in the new movie. That's got to be worth the price of admission alone.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2009, 06:00:48 pm »
Is anyone else absolutely curious as to how this will fare in theatres?  What's everyone's guess?  I'll take a stab at 45 million.  I really have no clue.  It's an "old" franchise that most young people today may or may not accept, due to that very fact that their elders and the older generations grew up with it.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2009, 06:06:28 pm »
Talking of pants, I notice that they've reintroduced the 60s style miniskirts in the new movie. That's got to be worth the price of admission alone.
Yeah Uhura was wearing a rather short skirt (and even less at some point).

Is anyone else absolutely curious as to how this will fare in theatres?  What's everyone's guess?  I'll take a stab at 45 million.  I really have no clue.  It's an "old" franchise that most young people today may or may not accept, due to that very fact that their elders and the older generations grew up with it.
This whole movie seemed to me like a setup for a whole new series of movies in the franchise. I hope it does well and that new episodes come out. So far it's getting really good critiques.

I found this "review" of the movie:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02LgdXVkXgM[/youtube]
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2009, 08:36:31 pm »
FWIW, it opened today in the states as well.  The official website says it opens Thursday and it is playing today at my local theaters.  I'm seeing it tomorrow, though.  Mother in law came in town today, so we have a babysitter, but tickets for todays showings were all sold out.

BTW, Private Parts was a good movie.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2009, 09:44:04 pm »
BTW, Private Parts was a good movie.


Yes, but it's not the best movie that anyone has ever seen.  Since he keeps saying it is... and he says that about this... he's a dumbass.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2009, 10:16:37 pm »
Ah ha.  I've never listened to his radio show.  Never been in a market that carried it and never had Sirius.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2009, 05:49:05 am »
Rotten Tomatoes reviewers are gushing over it.  That was the final piece in a "Do I see it or not? " puzzle (I am a Trek fan, but not insanely die hard) was what the reviewers thought.

Screw the 45 million projection - if it's as good as I've heard, it may be the first film to give "The Dark Knight" a run for it's money.


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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2009, 08:12:53 am »
Ah ha.  I've never listened to his radio show.  Never been in a market that carried it and never had Sirius.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #16 on: May 08, 2009, 10:02:09 am »
I thought it was fantastic.  You can see the movie without knowing anything about Star Trek and have a great time.  There are also enough references to the originals (particularly Wrath of Kahn) to keep the fanboys happy.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2009, 10:06:11 am »
Never was a huge fan of Star Trek...not even really a fan....Ive watched all the movies and 2 of the series...the original and next generation. So I knew enough to get by.

I'm more of the star wars persuasion. And honestly...I will say that this flick was better than all 3 of the new star wars movies combined.

The casting was great, story was damn good, and the FX were awesome. I wasn't bored during the movie at all. I actually had fun watching the movie. Can't say that for a lot of flicks I've seen this year.

Definitely worth seeing if you are a trek fan or not.

Also....go see it in IMAX if you can. HD picture and digital audio make it an orgasmic feast for the senses.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2009, 10:24:03 am »
I remember seeing the first trailers and thinking this was gonna be a stinking pile of pop trash. I'm thinking now that maybe the wife and I may have a date night tonight to go see it.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #19 on: May 08, 2009, 11:08:53 am »
I remember seeing the first trailers and thinking this was gonna be a stinking pile of pop trash.

Yeah, the trailers have made me not want to watch it at all, but the good reviews I'm hearing might persuade me to go.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #20 on: May 08, 2009, 11:25:58 am »

Are people really taking seriously the fact that the intarwebs likes Star Trek?

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #21 on: May 08, 2009, 11:31:32 am »

Are people really taking seriously the fact that the intarwebs likes Star Trek?

Rottentomatoes ratings are pretty much spot on in my opinion. I rarely - if ever - have disagreed with their overall number or summary.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2009, 11:38:56 am »
I remember seeing the first trailers and thinking this was gonna be a stinking pile of pop trash. I'm thinking now that maybe the wife and I may have a date night tonight to go see it.

I think some of the footage from the early trailers did not make the final cut.  Particularly the scene showing them building the Enterprise in space.  They really went easy on the Enterprise footage which I think helped.  Seems like the first few movies spent 10 minutes or more flying around the ship so the audience could gaze at it.  This was much snappier.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #23 on: May 08, 2009, 11:42:07 am »
Seems like the first few movies spent 10 minutes or more flying around the ship so the audience could gaze at it.  This was much snappier.

Need I remind you of the seemingly endless flyby the Enterprise did on V-ger in the 1st movie. Damn, that was agonizingly bad and boring.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #24 on: May 08, 2009, 12:01:32 pm »
Screw the 45 million projection - if it's as good as I've heard, it may be the first film to give "The Dark Knight" a run for it's money.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #25 on: May 08, 2009, 01:01:03 pm »
Screw the 45 million projection - if it's as good as I've heard, it may be the first film to give "The Dark Knight" a run for it's money.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #26 on: May 08, 2009, 01:14:34 pm »
HarumaN, are you talking about it's total gross or just opening weekend?  Seriously, this thing will take in well WAY more than that overall.  X-men Origins: Wolverine opened to $85 million.  We're talking about a number 4 sequel/spinoff (or prequel, I guess) after number 3 was really really bad.  Seriously . . . you're right that this will not displace Dark Knight, but $45 million is an incredibly low prediction, especially considering that it opened a day early (on a Thursday rather than a Friday).

Dr. Seuss's Horton Hears a Who did $45 million.  XXX (that Vin Diesel action movie) did $44.5 million opening weekend.  You really think that a Star Trek reboot with the kind of hype and reviews this movie is getting could underperform XXX?  No way.  This movie will probably have a $90 million opening.  Not a $45 million opening.

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Also, keep in mind the competition.  The only other movie opening up this weekend is Next Day Air.  Seriously?  You think that's going to draw anyone away from Star Trek?  Then there's Wolverine -- for one thing it's already been out for a week, and for another there's almost nobody in the world that would be interested in a movie like Wolverine, but not Star Trek.  For another, Wolverine is getting mediocre reviews at best, while Star Trek is being raved about by everyone.  Then there's Ghosts of Girlfriends Past.  That's it.  That's the competition.  

Star Trek will have a huge opening, and a huge total gross.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #27 on: May 08, 2009, 01:17:39 pm »
I'm pretty sure he meant total gross....

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #28 on: May 08, 2009, 01:49:17 pm »
I expect $90 million or so.

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« Reply #29 on: May 08, 2009, 01:55:23 pm »
Oh yeah, I agree that 45 mil is way too low...  but to suggest it's going to approach Dark Knight opening gross ($155.3 mil, btw) is just crazy.  ::)

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« Reply #30 on: May 08, 2009, 02:13:21 pm »
Seems like the first few movies spent 10 minutes or more flying around the ship so the audience could gaze at it.  This was much snappier.

Need I remind you of the seemingly endless flyby the Enterprise did on V-ger in the 1st movie. Damn, that was agonizingly bad and boring.

Yeah that was pretty painful.

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« Reply #31 on: May 08, 2009, 09:21:26 pm »
After reading review after review in papers and online, I'll have to up my guess, but I still question whether just the connotation of hearing the words "Star Trek" will keep some younger people, and even 20/30 somethings away.  I'll say...60 million.
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« Reply #32 on: May 08, 2009, 09:26:28 pm »
After reading review after review in papers and online, I'll have to up my guess, but I still question whether just the connotation of hearing the words "Star Trek" will keep some younger people, and even 20/30 somethings away.  I'll say...60 million.
I dunno.  I work with kids and it seems like they don't have the same ideas about that stuff that some others (we?) did when we were their age.  I think it'll attract a variety of people.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #33 on: May 08, 2009, 09:49:12 pm »

 Gota say, It was a  decent movie.

  The actors were really good.  Looked the part, and really made the characters
believable.  In fact, the characters portrayed seemed much more believable
than the original series cast.

 I was waiting the Classic lines... and when they came on,
it was a little cool.. but also a little cheezy too.

 A few things I didnt like:

1) At times, it felt like there was TOO Much on the screen.  The special effects
were WAY Overdone.  Too many collisions, explosions, particles, etc.  The enemy
ship was like a porcupine mass, which wasnt very nice either.

2) It felt a bit too rushed... and more like an introduction than an adventure. (which is
a bit to be expected.  This wasnt quite the case with Batman begins however)
Hopefully a sequel will improve things...

3) The Theater playing the film had the Volume up so high, it was painful to the
ear.  I had to stuff bits of napkin into my ears to make it bearable.  Im getting
Very tired of this crap.  Ive warned them about this last time I went...   Maybe
its time to start a Lawsuit up.   I could only imagine if someone brought a child
to the show.

 (And trust me, I like my music very loud.  But, its very different when its
heavy Mid-Range... and high frequency screeching and screaming noises.  Such
things are exactly what causes permanent hearing damages)

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #34 on: May 09, 2009, 03:45:19 am »
The actors were really good.  Looked the part, and really made the characters believable.  In fact, the characters portrayed seemed much more believable than the original series cast.
I felt the actors tried very hard to mimic the style and mannerisms of the original actors.

I felt the Scottish accent of that English guy was pathetic though. Didn't really sound Scottish to me at all. More like Gloucester ...

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3) The Theater playing the film had the Volume up so high, it was painful to the ear.  I had to stuff bits of napkin into my ears to make it bearable. 
I go to movies reasonably often and I don't usually have trouble with the volume, but in this case I felt the volume was way to loud too. Indeed especially the mid tones were annoyingly loud to the extent that indeed it was painful.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2009, 06:04:42 am »

Was going to see it last night but went to a rugby match instead (Aust beat NZ 38-10!)

So saw it a few hours ago instead with a friend. Second time for him, he really loves it. I thought it was fine. I like how the guy playing Kirk seems to channel Shatner, he did a great job. I'd give it 3.5/5.

Oh, and i saw in the credits that Winona Ryder was in it? I don't remember seeing her...

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2009, 06:48:41 am »

I felt the Scottish accent of that English guy was pathetic though. Didn't really sound Scottish to me at all. More like Gloucester ...


Lol, I haven't see the new movie yet but it's worth mentioning that the original "Scotty" had a pretty dodgy Scottish accent as well. IIRC he was actually Canadian.

Incidentally, how on earth is a guy from Holland able to differentiate between different British regional accents? I'm impressed.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2009, 06:55:22 am »
I didn't know until just recently, that James Doohan fought on the beaches of Normandy during D-Day, and lost a finger. :o
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« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2009, 07:32:17 am »
Oh, and i saw in the credits that Winona Ryder was in it? I don't remember seeing her...
I'd say she was someones mom.
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« Reply #39 on: May 09, 2009, 07:53:35 am »

I felt the Scottish accent of that English guy was pathetic though. Didn't really sound Scottish to me at all. More like Gloucester ...


Lol, I haven't see the new movie yet but it's worth mentioning that the original "Scotty" had a pretty dodgy Scottish accent as well. IIRC he was actually Canadian.

Incidentally, how on earth is a guy from Holland able to differentiate between different British regional accents? I'm impressed.
Lol, well obviously I can't since I completely accepted Scottie's accent (though obviously exaggerated)

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« Reply #40 on: May 09, 2009, 10:55:47 am »
saint's note -- spoiler warning, dangit!  In this thread and below are spoilers.
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I saw it last night.  I liked it quite a bit.  There were quite a few plot holes, but whatever.  Ya gotta give a movie like this a little slack.  BTW, just how many black holes was Spock planning to make when he set off with like 200 gallons of red matter?    ;D

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« Reply #41 on: May 09, 2009, 11:17:36 am »
BTW, just how many black holes was Spock planning to make when he set off with like 200 gallons of red matter?   ;D

I can never remember, does red matter go with fish or beef?
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« Reply #42 on: May 09, 2009, 11:26:24 am »

Speaking about odd accents, why would Checkov be unable to pronounce the letter "V"? Is that a reference to the original series? It's the last letter of his own name for crying out loud! The letter he replaces it with, the W, actually does not exist in Russian!
It is a reference to the original series.  The actor playing Chekov is actually Russian but wanted to pay homage by having a bad Russian accent.  Ironic, eh?

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« Reply #43 on: May 09, 2009, 11:31:07 am »
I saw it last night.  I liked it quite a bit.  There were quite a few plot holes, but whatever.  Ya gotta give a movie like this a little slack.  BTW, just how many black holes was Spock planning to make when he set off with like 200 gallons of red matter?   ;D
I didn't get why was he carrying that much red matter to begin with.
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« Reply #44 on: May 09, 2009, 02:22:33 pm »

Speaking about odd accents, why would Checkov be unable to pronounce the letter "V"? Is that a reference to the original series? It's the last letter of his own name for crying out loud! The letter he replaces it with, the W, actually does not exist in Russian!
It is a reference to the original series.  The actor playing Chekov is actually Russian but wanted to pay homage buy having a bad Russian accent.  Ironic, eh?

Heh ironic indeed. I wonder whether the guy playing Scotty had the same idea.
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« Reply #45 on: May 09, 2009, 03:34:07 pm »
One of the reasons why I gave it 9 out of 10.

Red matter, Vulcan, You know who's mommy, Kirk the know it all.  :P

Maybe they will fix it in the sequel. ;D
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« Reply #46 on: May 09, 2009, 03:49:25 pm »

Speaking about odd accents, why would Checkov be unable to pronounce the letter "V"? Is that a reference to the original series? It's the last letter of his own name for crying out loud! The letter he replaces it with, the W, actually does not exist in Russian!
It is a reference to the original series.  The actor playing Chekov is actually Russian but wanted to pay homage buy having a bad Russian accent.  Ironic, eh?

Heh ironic indeed. I wonder whether the guy playing Scotty had the same idea.
Well both of them were indeed trying to use the same overdone accent as the original actors did. You can call that an hommage I guess, but I'd rather assume they were all told to do so. Really all the actors were doing their best to mimic the old actors style, mannerisms and accents. That's not a coincidence.

How was replacing the letter V by a W a reference to the original series though? Did the original Chekov make the same weird mistake? I have to admit, the last time I saw the original series must have been decades ago. All I can remember is that he had an over the top Russian accent and that used to say "ciptin" instead of captain.

:edit: never mind, indeed I just remembered the original Chekhov would say things like "wessel" instead of vessel.

:edit2: Downloaded the Tribble episode and Chekov says "inwented" a couple of times, but he can say "first". Silly. I wonder how he pronounces his own name. Pawel Chekow?
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #47 on: May 09, 2009, 04:20:46 pm »
BTW, just how many black holes was Spock planning to make when he set off with like 200 gallons of red matter?   ;D

I can never remember, does red matter go with fish or beef?

Neither.  Doesn't matter!

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« Reply #48 on: May 10, 2009, 12:05:16 am »
BTW, just how many black holes was Spock planning to make when he set off with like 200 gallons of red matter?   ;D

One of my facebook friend's response to the above question:

Ya, what the hell was that about? Maybe the Vulcan's just had a black hole ship that anyone who was making a black hole had to check out from the vulcan science academy.

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« Reply #49 on: May 10, 2009, 10:07:07 pm »
Just saw it. It was good. Few small annoyances, but meh. I thought the casting for the most part was outstanding! Kirk, Spock, McCoy, Sulu - all excellent cast choices. Uhura, Scottie were OK. Wasn't fond of the Chekov casting.

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The whole romance thing was pointless and irritating.

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« Reply #50 on: May 10, 2009, 10:24:52 pm »
Heh . . . sorry.  That Spock had a black hole ship was not really much of a spoiler, IMO.  Doesn't really give anything away really. 
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The whole romance thing was pointless and irritating.


I agree with you there. The romance was too much. 

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« Reply #52 on: May 11, 2009, 01:56:49 am »
Just got back from seeing it and I'd say it was a 4 out of 5.  Solid movie and quite entertaining, but not a must see.

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Rotten Tomatoes says $72.5 million.
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« Reply #54 on: May 12, 2009, 06:20:03 am »
Wasn't fond of the Chekov casting.



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I said a few words though. A-hole and girlffriend sitting next to me. He starting talking on his phone. I said 'mate, can you hang up please'. After a few minutes they started messing around with the stupid thing. Those things are like torches. i told the girl 'can you please switch that thing off, it's shining in my eyes. Or if you want to keep playing with it, go outside'. What the hell is wrong with people that they cant sit through a movie without contact with the outside world? I 've got a pretty short attention span, but even I can watch a movie without distraction...


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« Reply #55 on: May 12, 2009, 11:40:38 am »
What the hell is wrong with people that they cant sit through a movie without contact with the outside world? I 've got a pretty short attention span, but even I can watch a movie without distraction...
Where I went we all had to hand over our cell phones. At the end of the movie you could collect the thing again. Really bizarre. It took forever to get in.

I've never been through that before. Maybe it was because it was a premiere and they didn't want the thing on internet before it was in the cinema's? But then it was out in Australia for a month already and who would watch a movie recorded with a cell phone anyway?
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« Reply #56 on: May 14, 2009, 05:30:26 am »

I heard once that in Ireland they have mobile phone jammers in their cinemas. If this is true, then

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« Reply #57 on: May 14, 2009, 11:09:05 am »
I've heard of some theaters here doing that too.  It seems like a giant lawsuit waiting to happen.  First time someone chokes on a piece of popcorn . . .
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« Reply #58 on: May 14, 2009, 11:14:45 am »
We have a new theater and it seems like they created it as a Faraday cage because I get full bars outside and zero inside.

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« Reply #59 on: May 14, 2009, 11:17:50 am »
Yeah . . . that's what I read about theaters doing, but I couldn't remember what it was called.  I hope when they do get sued that the theater wins.  Cos I love the idea. 
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« Reply #60 on: May 14, 2009, 01:06:38 pm »
Yeah . . . that's what I read about theaters doing, but I couldn't remember what it was called.  I hope when they do get sued that the theater wins.  Cos I love the idea. 
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Has there been any talk about there being a new TV series with the new cast from the movie?
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Has there been any talk about there being a new TV series with the new cast from the movie?
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« Reply #63 on: May 15, 2009, 08:35:39 am »
I've heard of some theaters here doing that too.  It seems like a giant lawsuit waiting to happen.  First time someone chokes on a piece of popcorn . . .

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Can you remove popcorn from someones throat with a cell phone that has a connection? Only then?
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shmokes is right, sadly... first time something happens in one of those theaters and someone can't make a phone call they will sue the company.  I'll be surprised if they don't get proactively sued by the cell phone providers themselves or by a privacy rights group. 

Collecting the cell phones ahead of time also seems like an invasion of privacy class action waiting to happen.  You know some employee will be going through all the phones during the movie looking for personal info.  Can you imagine the size of the lawsuit if some 15 year old girl's sexting photos get onto the net because a theater employee found them during the movie?

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« Reply #67 on: May 15, 2009, 12:17:39 pm »

shmokes is right, sadly... first time something happens in one of those theaters and someone can't make a phone call they will sue the company.  I'll be surprised if they don't get proactively sued by the cell phone providers themselves or by a privacy rights group. 
Wouldn't a warning sign be enough? Theaters show clips before the movie reminding you to switch your phone off. Just make it say that the phones don't work in the room, so go outside to get help or call for help. Hang up a wired phone for all I care.

Just like in hospitals (in the intensive care areas).

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Collecting the cell phones ahead of time also seems like an invasion of privacy class action waiting to happen.  You know some employee will be going through all the phones during the movie looking for personal info.  Can you imagine the size of the lawsuit if some 15 year old girl's sexting photos get onto the net because a theater employee found them during the movie?
Yeah, I really hope they don't make a habit of that. If they had warned me upfront I would simply not have brought my phone (in fact I didn't bring a phone, but my GF did).
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« Reply #68 on: May 15, 2009, 01:05:19 pm »
Wouldn't a warning sign be enough? Theaters show clips before the movie reminding you to switch your phone off. Just make it say that the phones don't work in the room, so go outside to get help or call for help. Hang up a wired phone for all I care.

Just like in hospitals (in the intensive care areas).


Well now you're asking about the difference between bringing a lawsuit and winning a lawsuit.  The lawsuit decides what is enough. 

I doubt you can compare it to hospitals.  There are life support devices in there potentially affected by the phones.  No such imminent problem exists in a movie theater.

Man, the info theft potential on a lot of peoples' phones is incredible.  Extend it out to Crackberries... now you have a full inbox, personal or corporate, as well as everything you could need for identity theft.  I'm surprised people would just willingly give their phones to some teenager with a cardboard box.

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« Reply #69 on: May 15, 2009, 02:44:44 pm »
There's no way in Hades I'd have surrendered my phone to them. And if they hadn't posted a sign out front before I bought my tickets that they were doing it, I'd have 1) ignored them and walked in with my phone, and if they tried to stop me 2) made a big fuss with the management, demanded a refund, and made a general ass of myself.
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« Reply #70 on: May 15, 2009, 03:27:14 pm »
I'd put hard cash on the likelihood that less than half the people in there surrendered their phone anyway.  It's not like they can pat people down to go see Star Trek.

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« Reply #71 on: May 15, 2009, 06:35:12 pm »
Man, the info theft potential on a lot of peoples' phones is incredible.  Extend it out to Crackberries... now you have a full inbox, personal or corporate, as well as everything you could need for identity theft.  I'm surprised people would just willingly give their phones to some teenager with a cardboard box.
There were security guards with bodyguards taking the phones away.

I didn't have a phone on me so I just walked straight through. To be honest, I probably could have done the same if I did have a phone. They never laid a hand on me and I didn't see a scanner either.

I guess most people were just too stunned to think it over too much. My GF was going to walk in right behind me, but she chickened out and handed her phone in anyway. I don't think her phone can even record movies at all.

There's no way in Hades I'd have surrendered my phone to them. And if they hadn't posted a sign out front before I bought my tickets that they were doing it, I'd have 1) ignored them and walked in with my phone, and if they tried to stop me 2) made a big fuss with the management, demanded a refund, and made a general ass of myself.

Well it was a premiere. I guess the alternative options would be to walk through or walk away, but most people probably just rather went in to see the movie.

The VIPs just walked straight in. Of course they didn't hand over their phones.


I'd put hard cash on the likelihood that less than half the people in there surrendered their phone anyway.  It's not like they can pat people down to go see Star Trek.

EDIT:  a thought occurs... if the point is to avoid cam torrent releases... are there really cell phones that can capture 2 hours of video content now?
Indeed, it made no sense at all. Even if a phone can capture a whole movie, the quality is going to be nothing but a moving blur with crappy mono audio.

To be honest, maybe the reason was something else, but I cannot imagine what. I didn't talk to them and my GF didn't really understand what the security people said. Just that they wanted her phone.

Oddly enough before the movie started there were 2 clips remembering us to switch off our phones.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #72 on: May 15, 2009, 10:34:53 pm »
The movie was quite good.  My knowledge of star trek is probably far more limited than most here but I thought that red shirt death was pretty epic.

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How many movies does this make with the Romulans as the bad guys?

When will star fleet use atmospheric fighters?  Seriously shoot the fragile looking chain with spikes on it with something.

After the Kelvin was decimated why wasn't a fleet dispatched to its last location to retaliate?

Concerning this phone collection gestapo nonsense perhaps it is their intention to steal private info?  Wouldn't be the first time an employee/management did something corrupt.
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« Reply #73 on: May 16, 2009, 03:26:18 am »
Can you remove popcorn from someones throat with a cell phone that has a connection? Only then?

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« Reply #74 on: May 16, 2009, 10:56:59 am »
I missed this earlier, but apparently they are already working on a sequel.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #75 on: May 17, 2009, 01:52:24 pm »
Saw the movie last night. I agree with many of the positive reviews here. Great movie!

Did any one notice something missing from this incarnation of the Enterprise? It dawned on me as we were walking out to the car after the movie. Since they paid so much homage to the original series, I was kind of surprised that they didn't have it.

Oh! And the Transformers 2 trailer was a nice bonus.
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« Reply #76 on: May 17, 2009, 02:33:45 pm »
Saw the movie last night. I agree with many of the positive reviews here. Great movie!

Did any one notice something missing from this incarnation of the Enterprise? It dawned on me as we were walking out to the car after the movie. Since they paid so much homage to the original series, I was kind of surprised that they didn't have it.

Oh! And the Transformers 2 trailer was a nice bonus.


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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #77 on: May 17, 2009, 03:45:58 pm »
OMG Transformers 2 looks so awful.  LOL, why would anybody even consider it being good to be a possibility.  The first one was HORRIBLE, which was to be expected considering it's Michael Bay.  This one looks just as retarded, and is still being directed by Michael Bay.
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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #78 on: May 17, 2009, 04:01:03 pm »
Talking about homage to the orginal series, I was going through old Star Trek TOS episodes and I came across The Menagerie where Captain Pike is in a "wheelchair" and only able to beep once or twice for yes and no. I never realized that South Park took that idea for the burned teacher from there.

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« Reply #79 on: May 17, 2009, 04:17:47 pm »
Sounds like shmokes has a Micheal Bay hang-up. There were some things Bay did I didn't like with Transformers 1, but all in all....it wasn't "HORRIBLE."

But this is about Star Trek...as for what was missing, I'll give you guys a clue:

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« Reply #80 on: May 17, 2009, 04:53:03 pm »
Nurse Chapel? Is that Majel Barrett? Doesn't look like her but I'm not sure I recognize that picture.

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« Reply #81 on: May 17, 2009, 05:06:28 pm »
She also did the computer's voice. Is that missing? I haven't seen the film yet.
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« Reply #82 on: May 17, 2009, 05:38:08 pm »
I guess we better ignore shmokes and his retarded opion of recent Transformer movies.


I agree with him.  That movie was so effin bad I would have fallen asleep if not for the volume.

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« Reply #83 on: May 17, 2009, 06:11:11 pm »
She also did the computer's voice. Is that missing? I haven't seen the film yet.

She did.  She recorded her parts right before she died.

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« Reply #84 on: May 17, 2009, 06:57:55 pm »
Yes, that's Majel Barrett, I didn't hear the ship's computer - that's what was missing for me. But, apparently she did do the voice overs for the movie, so I guess I just missed it. Did anyone else hear the ship's computer?
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« Reply #85 on: May 17, 2009, 06:59:56 pm »
It was a real good movie. Me and the wife thoroughly enjoyed it. The kid playing Chekov sucked. I think they could have done a little better on the Kirk casting too. Overall though, a good movie. Original Spocks part was the best part of the movie. I thought they were only going to put him in as a cameo. Quite surprised to see him be so integral to the whole plot.

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« Reply #86 on: May 18, 2009, 05:55:45 am »
Excellent movie, saw it last friday. They successfully walked a pretty thin tightrope between trekkies and non-trekkies. I heard good things about the film but have to say, it was even better than I expected. I genuinely can't think of a way it could have been improved much.

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« Reply #87 on: May 18, 2009, 01:30:23 pm »
Good movie. Not fantastic. Bit too much comedy. Loved that they stayed true to the "guy in red gets it" rule. ;-)
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« Reply #88 on: May 18, 2009, 01:56:22 pm »
Yes, that's Majel Barrett, I didn't hear the ship's computer - that's what was missing for me. But, apparently she did do the voice overs for the movie, so I guess I just missed it. Did anyone else hear the ship's computer?
The computer was talking a lot at the beginning of the movie.
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« Reply #89 on: May 18, 2009, 02:50:42 pm »

Hey, it's a lot of work to improvise a cell phone camera tripod.  Can't watch the movie and do that too.

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A note I forgot to mention earlier - the audience applauded at the end of the film. That is the first time that's happened in a while at a movie I saw.

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« Reply #91 on: May 20, 2009, 10:52:31 am »
A note I forgot to mention earlier - the audience applauded at the end of the film. That is the first time that's happened in a while at a movie I saw.

Meh.  The audience applauded when my wife dragged me to see Juno. 

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« Reply #92 on: May 20, 2009, 11:06:06 am »
A note I forgot to mention earlier - the audience applauded at the end of the film. That is the first time that's happened in a while at a movie I saw.

Meh.  The audience applauded when my wife dragged me to see Juno. 


Did they applaud for the movie too?

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« Reply #93 on: May 20, 2009, 11:09:22 am »
Meh.  The audience applauded when my wife dragged me to see Juno. 


Did they applaud for the movie too?


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« Reply #94 on: May 20, 2009, 11:48:32 am »
Juno was very good.   ???
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Juno was very good.   ???

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« Reply #96 on: May 20, 2009, 12:29:18 pm »
Juno was very good.   ???

Who said that? 

Juno was 10x the movie Star Trek was.

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« Reply #97 on: May 20, 2009, 12:51:14 pm »

The problem with Juno is it was right after Superbad.  So the kid spends all that time and effort trying to get laid... and then the chick is pregnant waddling around for 90 minutes.

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« Reply #98 on: May 20, 2009, 01:03:45 pm »
Spock sort of came off as Sylar with pointy ears. The "mommy issues" plot line carried over it seemed. At one point I thought he was gonna point his finger at Kirk's head.

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« Reply #99 on: May 22, 2009, 11:20:31 pm »

The problem with Juno is it was right after Superbad.  So the kid spends all that time and effort trying to get laid... and then the chick is pregnant waddling around for 90 minutes.

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« Reply #100 on: May 24, 2009, 03:23:54 pm »
I saw the film last night. I'm not a huge fan of Star Trek. In fact I think it's the most overrated of all the big sci fi franchises. However, the films are generally at least watchable, and I was curious to see how they handled the 'reboot'.

I've got to say I was pleasantly surprised. The film far exceeded my expectations. It's actually the best film that I've seen for some time. It was just really good old fashioned entertainment, the kind of film that Hollywood does best.

As others have pointed out, there were the usual minor plot holes (which is par for the course with Star Trek). But that didn't really matter.

Of more significance was the 'elephant in the corner' introduced by the new story line. Not really a plot hole as such, but still a massive issue which has profound implications for the whole franchise, and which was glossed over in the film. I don't wish to give away any spoilers, but I'm sure anyone who has seen the film will know what I'm talking about.

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« Reply #101 on: May 24, 2009, 03:33:00 pm »
Saw the movie last night. I agree with many of the positive reviews here. Great movie!

Did any one notice something missing from this incarnation of the Enterprise? It dawned on me as we were walking out to the car after the movie. Since they paid so much homage to the original series, I was kind of surprised that they didn't have it.

Oh! And the Transformers 2 trailer was a nice bonus.


Shuttles? Jeffry tubes? Kirk taking off his shirt and hooking up with a green skinned babe?

Heh, Actually Kirk did briefly hook up with a green skinned babe in the movie! I thought that was a nice touch.

That's one of the things I really liked about the movie. It sent up a lot of the old star Trek clichés but remained respectful to them nevertheless.
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« Reply #102 on: May 24, 2009, 04:15:56 pm »
but I'm sure anyone who has seen the film will know what I'm talking about.
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« Reply #103 on: June 28, 2009, 06:48:50 pm »

Saw this today... good movie.  Too many shots of "parts of space stuff" like so many of these movies do now... but good movie.  Better than I thought it would be.