THE REAL KING OF KONG

[supergamer09]

Hi ////,
I don't think theres anything we can do.
I'm not familiar with the circumstances of your history with TG, but judging from my own, I can see how one can easily get screwed over in the name of politics and/or profit.
I actually have a copy of the game I played 9 years ago that was the "real" one that beat Billy's long standing record from the 80's.....NOT Webie. The whole KoK thing is built starting from a  purposely manufactured lie.
I made 2 copies, one I sent to TG, the other I kept for myself....THAT I STILL HAVE.
Dwayne Richards and a few other notable people have seen this video from 9 years ago and agree theres no disputing it, it was all legit,
Seth Gordan intentionally lied.  I was screwed out of my right full place in KoK.
I can't tell you how angry I am that an accomplishment I originaly did was simply taken away from me with intentional lies, handed over to someone else  (they purposely lied to do it) so they could all profit!  NOW THERE'S A MOTION PICTURE IN THE WORKS?! I got zero!
I'm the one who first actually beat Billys long standing score, can prove it and they hand it to Webie and B.S. the public with a so-called ..."documentary"?
Trying to explain the truth  about the whole KoK thing to the general public is like trying to explain quantum physics to a taylors dummy. No one wants to hear it even though you can back up your argument with truth and videotape.
The public actually thinks KoK is a real life,real events documentary.
Both these Film people and TG now have a lot of $$$ tied up in the KoK sham.

Tim S.

And another GREAT gamer who has been given the shaft too

http://www.youtube.com/user/trtomkitinholloywood

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/11/the-right-to-play-twin-galaxies

[TOK]

Dude, sorry you got aced out for the movie. You've dragged this around to every forum and newsgroup pertaining to video games. Is this the last one you could find? Has it come to that?

Beat the new scores... Something big is going down at E3.
Don't become Roy Shildt.

[missioncontrol]

I recorded my DK victory on betamax, I have proof, I just don't have anything to play it on....

[leapinlew]

DUN DUN DUH!

When I saw supergamer09's single post, I instantly thought "Finally, here's a guy we can trust".  

[Mauzy]

I recorded my DK victory on betamax, I have proof, I just don't have anything to play it on....

[CheffoJeffo]

First off -- welcome!

And thanks for reminding me to watch Chasing Ghosts and King Of Kong again so that I can be reminded just how ---smurfing--- pathetic things can get when a high score is your barometer for sucess.

I absolutely suck at virtually every game that I love and will never achieve a high score in any competition worthy of mention.

But I totally ---smurfing--- adore the games.

Wishing you could do the same,

Cheffo

[leapinlew]

I just saw he referenced Todd Rogers as a "GREAT" gamer, and to that I say 

[DrewKaree]

Don't you have, like, a well-raised child or a strong marriage you can point to as a measure of your success in life?  Your self-worth isn't really all tied up in this, right? 

 

[NIVO]

even being a purveyor of fine rubber and latex products would be worth more

[shmokes]

To be fair all these get-over-it comments are probably built on a foundation of disbelief.  I think every one of you fully sympathized with Steve Weibe when you saw King of Kong (unless you already knew the "real" story, of course). 

If this guy really did beat the record and Twin Galaxies really did suppress the tape for political reasons (i.e., Billy Mitchell is a major player in TG administration) that's something that anyone here should be concerned about, or it is at least worthy of passing sympathy. 

The reality is that any one of us would derive a great deal of pride from holding the world record on something like Donkey Kong or Pac Man.  I don't care if you are ultra-successful in other areas of your life or not.  And having official recognition of such an accomplishment denied because the people administering Twin Galaxies are corrupt would sting any one of us.

So if you don't believe him, fine.  Call him out.  But call it like it is.  If you actually believe him there's no reason to act like an ---uvula---.

[leapinlew]

oh good, schmokes is here. Please schmokes, defend the man with 1 post who is spamming this message at other sites.

[CheffoJeffo]

Well, shmokes, in order to actually be fair, you have actually to do some research ... do they still teach that in law school ?

Maybe not.

Until then, perhaps you should just keep dialing 911 with your pocket and have your umbrella handy.

The reality is what it is and is more than adequately documented... you might want to look into it some time.

 

EDIT: Just in case you have any doubts, watch the videos ... if *anybody* could make this dude look more pathetic, then I would be totally amazed.

[shmokes]

Oh give me a break   .  Yeah, I'm going to hunker down and spend a few hours researching every single issue that ever comes before me.   The fact is, Cheffo. you didn't say one word about whether there was any merit to what the guy was saying.  You didn't say anything that suggested you have done any research whatsoever.  You simply suggested that anybody who seriously cares about having his high scores recognized is pathetic, and I disagree.

And I never defended the guy, or suggested that I believe him.  I simply said that I don't really think there's anything wrong with attaching importance to an achievement like having a high score on a classic game like Donkey Kong or Pac-Man.

Exactly what is it I said that either of you take issue with?  I said that the get-over-it comments are probably built on a foudnation of disbelief.  As it turns out, Cheffo, yours apparently is.  Apparently you've seen the tapes and think he's full of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.  leapinlew's obviously is, but my comments obviously weren't directed at him in the first place.  They addressed comments like Cheffo's, DrewKaree's, and Nivo's.

[DrewKaree]

You're wrong.  I can make a video to back up my claim if need be.

[shmokes]

You're wrong.  I can make a video to back up my claim if need be.

I insist.

[leapinlew]

I do believe that supergamer09 is schmokes.

There is no merit to what the guy is saying schmokes. Check out the youtube link in his article - watch the whiney crybabies videos and ask yourself - If you ran a privately owned website, would you want him on your site?

[shmokes]

leapinlew, go back and read my post.  Good lord.  It begins, "To be fair all these get-over-it comments are probably built on a foundation of disbelief."  My point, even after explaining myself a second time, appears to be completely lost on you.

[shmokes]

There is no merit to what the guy is saying schmokes. Check out the youtube link in his article - watch the whiney crybabies videos and ask yourself - If you ran a privately owned website, would you want him on your site?

LMAO . . . So I went ahead and watched a couple of the Youtube videos.  I learned that he is apparently a legit gamer with a bunch of recognized high scores.  I also learned that he is a --cream-filled twinkie-- whom I would never socialize with.  So no, I would probably not want him on my site, whatever that means if he doesn't break any rules.  But what does that have to do with anything?

[CheffoJeffo]

The fact is, Cheffo. you didn't say one word about whether there was any merit to what the guy was saying. 

Caught that, did you ?

You simply suggested that anybody who seriously cares about having his high scores recognized is pathetic, and I disagree.

Not at all -- I suggested that if you spend years trying to get your scores recognized and the end result is only that everybody immediately recognizes you as a total --cream-filled twinkie--, *then* you are pathetic.

I have copies of the TG and Guinness gaming record books and find it fun to read about some of the champions, but there comes a point where you need to realize that these are just games and that your life needs to be worth more than that.

[DaOld Man]

Looks like this guy is bucking for a new movie about him getting screwed by TG.

I think I will go see Terminator 4 instead.

[Ginsu Victim]

Whoever started this thread, it ISN'T Tim Sczerby.

Matter of fact, it's THIS ---uvula---. Holy ---Cleveland steamer---, I hate this ---smurfin---' guy

http://www.youtube.com/user/trtomkitinholloywood

Edit: Oh, I see the link is in the post. Well, the email matches him.

[shardian]

I have recently met a non-hobbyist who has seen KoK. He wants to be in the hobby though, so maybe he doesn't count. 

[Malenko]

so this guy wants to be THE KoK instead of just a cock?

[ChadTower]

He's a KoK suckup.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

The sad thing is this dude could possibly have a legitimate beef. We already know Twin Galaxies hasn't always done right by Wiebe. And the film producers certainly have economic incentive to keep the narrative between Wiebe and Mitchell as pristine as possible (with a possible Hollywood version of KoK in the works), so this kids claims are not totally unbelievable.

That said, he couldn't have gone about airing his grievances in a worse way. He's completely alienated himself, and probably totally undermined his now pending lawsuit against TG.

What a doooooosh.

[RayB]

bah, he deserves a KoK-punch.

TG is its a privately owned organization. They owe nobody anything. They don't have to abide by any holy doctrine or hippocratic oath, or ANYTHING. They can allow who they want, they can deny who they want. TG's turf, TG's rules.

So... +1 to the guy if he really beat the score. -1000 for being a whiny --cream-filled twinkie-- and spamming forums.

The movie King of Kong wouldn't be the same if it was all about a whiney --cream-filled twinkie-- VS Billy Mitchell. Instead it was the nice guy underdog vs the arrogant manipulator. What Tim (Rudy?) needs to understand is there would NOT have been a KoK if it weren't for Steve Wiebe's story.  His Betamax high score is a technicality. If it can be authenticated, maybe he should be given his rightful score placement. But if he expects movies and other perks from it, he needs to buy a few more boxes of Kleenex to cry into.

[shmokes]

TG is its a privately owned organization. They owe nobody anything. They don't have to abide by any holy doctrine or hippocratic oath, or ANYTHING. They can allow who they want, they can deny who they want. TG's turf, TG's rules.

This is probably not true.  If they are selling books that claim to be objective, but are really manufacturing the data, they could run into legal trouble.

[shardian]

bah, he deserves a KoK-punch.

TG is its a privately owned organization. They owe nobody anything. They don't have to abide by any holy doctrine or hippocratic oath, or ANYTHING. They can allow who they want, they can deny who they want. TG's turf, TG's rules.

So... +1 to the guy if he really beat the score. -1000 for being a whiny --cream-filled twinkie-- and spamming forums.

The movie King of Kong wouldn't be the same if it was all about a whiney --cream-filled twinkie-- VS Billy Mitchell. Instead it was the nice guy underdog vs the arrogant manipulator. What Tim (Rudy?) needs to understand is there would NOT have been a KoK if it weren't for Steve Wiebe's story.  His Betamax high score is a technicality. If it can be authenticated, maybe he should be given his rightful score placement. But if he expects movies and other perks from it, he needs to buy a few more boxes of Kleenex to cry into.

WTF does this guy's score matter? Maybe if he puts up a 1 million point score, then he has a beef. All this arguing over an 800k score? Yeah buddy, your about 200k short of having the right to ---smurfette--- and moan. Go invite Capt. awesome out for some tear flavored beer.

[CheffoJeffo]

Argh!

Argh!

shmokes -- I know that you can't be bothered to do the research, BUT I think that you are confusing (and I think I contributed to the confusion) two separate issues.

Perhaps we need to provide a playbill so that folks can keep track of the players.

-Twin Galaxies recognized Tim Sczerby's Donkey Kong record in 2000, which was subsequently beaten by Steve Wiebe in 2003. If, in fact, the OP *is* Tim and *is* pissed, then his issue is with the filmakers, not TG. I don't think that anybody disputes the facts on this one ... except for maybe the lawyer who, by definition, doesn't actually care about the facts ...  

- the OP is not Tim, but rather the jackass in the totally----smurfing----crazy YouTube videos, who has been raving like a ---smurfing--- maniac for years, somehow thinking that pretending to be Roy Schildt's idiot brother is a good idea

Of course, I could be wrong and Walter Day actually IS the devil and chuckie-one-post IS the new messiah.

And it might rain tomorrow.

 

[mr.Curmudgeon]

somehow thinking that pretending to be Roy Schildt's idiot brother is a good idea

HEY DON'T GET CHUMPATIZED!! YOU LEAVE MR.AWESOME OUT OF THIS!!!   

[Ginsu Victim]

What Tim (Rudy?) needs to understand is there would NOT have been a KoK if it weren't for Steve Wiebe's story. 

There was no story when they started their documentary. They shot footage of everyone, a lot of which is in the deleted scenes. Sure, it wouldn't have been "The King of Kong", but it still would've been a doc.

[Ginsu Victim]

If, in fact, the OP *is* Tim and *is* pissed,

It's not Tim Sczerby. It's the --cream-filled twinkie-- from those videos.

[CheffoJeffo]

If, in fact, the OP *is* Tim and *is* pissed,

It's not Tim Sczerby. It's the --cream-filled twinkie-- from those videos.

That has been my assumption ... I probably should have been clearer about that from the get-go (although the "watch the videos" comment did tip my hand on this a bit).

[mr.Curmudgeon]

My favorite part about this kid's videos is the fact that he's spent the past 2-1/2 years defending himself saying he never threatened anybody, only to release a video where he and his brother threaten to shove some video game apparel down another guy's throat.

FAIL!

[shmokes]

shmokes -- I know that you can't be bothered to do the research, BUT I think that you are confusing (and I think I contributed to the confusion) two separate issues.

I didn't confuse any issues.  I didn't say anything that required a shred of research.  Go back and read my original post you took issue with. 

[CheffoJeffo]

EDIT: So you don't believe that Tim S posted this either ?

[shmokes]

I have no idea who Tim S is.  I've never even heard of him, as far as I know, unless he's mentioned in King of Kong, in which case I have completely forgotten who he is.  I have absolutely no opinion on the matter.

[CheffoJeffo]

 

You don't have a clue who the OP is supposed to be, which means that you also don't know what he is posting about, BUT you are somehow qualified to discern the motivations behind the posts made by myself and others ... on a topic that you know nothing about ?

 

One of us needs to go back to PnR ...

[shmokes]

Or somebody needs to work on reading comprehension and reread my OP.

[Barry Barcrest]

TG is its a privately owned organization. They owe nobody anything. They don't have to abide by any holy doctrine or hippocratic oath, or ANYTHING. They can allow who they want, they can deny who they want. TG's turf, TG's rules.

I think it would be an issue if the Guiness Book Of World Records based their info on TG's records and things were not actually above board.