Wii Punch-Out!

[ahofle]

Anyone heard much about this?  Guess I never really considered how well this would work on the Wii:
http://www.gamespot.com/wii/sports/punchoutwii/index.html?tag=topten;all;6

[ViciousXUSMC]

Yeah I saw it a long time ago, I though it was a balance board game though.

It can work well, but despite how great the wii controls are for many things they do not always do what you want them too so not sure how well this is going to work out. 

The boxing game that came out for the wii was not very good, but its also a lot to do with how you program the game to read the wiimote signals.  If you do it right it works much better than a half done job.

[ahofle]

Well hopefully this one will take advantage of the Wii Motion Plus add on that actually makes the motion sensors work!

[ideft]

Nothing will come close to the original.

[Lecithin]

I absolutely love the original punch-out and of course nothing could live up to it by maaaaannnn would I welcome the effort.

If Nintendo is the one behind it I have faith that it could come out well... most other design/developers do not take the console seriously

[ViciousXUSMC]

I really don't think the wii is great for action games that require force feedback.

Gonna wear out your arms pretty quick punching them into the air.

Thanks a good thing IMO, keep you from playing too long and also get some exercise.

[Dartful Dodger]

a good thing IMO, keep you from playing too long and also get some exercise.

While hyper extending your elbows.



I played North American Hunting Extravaganza for the Wii with the Sure Shot.

It's a decent game but they were to focused on the Wii controller’s gimmicks.  To reload you had to shake the gun, but it wouldn't always reload if you tried to shake it like you were loading it, so get into the habit of shaking it like a Yahoo drink.

Punch Out could be great with the Wiimote, but they'll find a way to make it suk.

[ViciousXUSMC]

While hyper extending your elbows.

That sounds like a personal choice not a requirement

As a certified personal trainer, I used to see people do bad exercise forms every day, even accomplished weight lifters.  Using the Wii is no exception, why not just toss some wrist weights on there while your at it

[ChadTower]

Yep, a person with some decent punching form isn't going to hyperextend their elbows.  It's the people doing it wrong that will hurt themselves.  Maybe we should make those people wear Giants helmets too so they don't accidentally swallow the nunchuk.

[ChadTower]

Because a kid's game on a kid's toy is going to teach 'decent punching form'.

 

No one said it would.  It's not exactly teaching decent pilates form either but Wii Fit sold millions.

[Dartful Dodger]

Yep, a person with some decent punching form isn't going to hyperextend their elbows. 

That's not the problem though.  In the hunting game if you shake the gun like you would if you were reloading it.  (Holding the fore-end and shaking it back and forth once) Nothing happens.  To get it to reload you have shake it like crazy, up down and all around.

When playing the boxing game, my 6 year old niece is swatting the air like she's being attacked by bees and no one can beat her.

You can play the boxing game with decent punching form and get knocked out by a 6 year old girl, or you can play to win and hyperextend your elbows.

If a 6 year old can win all the time without form, she's not going to practice good form to lose.

[ChadTower]

If a 6 year old can win all the time without form, she's not going to practice good form to lose.

So you already have the game?  We're not talking about Wii Sports.  You can't make that judgement on Punchout based on Wii Sports.

You can beat the little girl by just shaking your wrists.  I'm sure you can come up with a well practiced 3" wrist movement that's fast enough.

[Malenko]

Nothing will come close to the original.

I like Super Punch Out on SNES better

[patrickl]

When playing the boxing game, my 6 year old niece is swatting the air like she's being attacked by bees and no one can beat her.

Lol, my 5 year old boy does exactly the same.

Maybe with MotionPlus this new boxing game will be better, but I don't have my hopes up. It's really annoying how pathetically easy most Wii games are. The only trouble my kid encounters in games is that he can't read and can't understand English. The gameplay itself is rarely much of a real challenge. Fight scenes are usually solved by frantically and randomly flailing the controller(s) around and/or mash some buttons. He loves it though.

[Dartful Dodger]

If a 6 year old can win all the time without form, she's not going to practice good form to lose.

So you already have the game?  We're not talking about Wii Sports.  You can't make that judgement on Punchout based on Wii Sports.

You can beat the little girl by just shaking your wrists.  I'm sure you can come up with a well practiced 3" wrist movement that's fast enough.

I made that comment when you said playing the game with good form will save your elbows, then you suggest doing something that isn't good form, but will destroy your wrists.

Punch Out could be great with the Wiimote, but they'll find a way to make it suk.

I'm making my judgment on how Wii games tend to over use the Wiimote gimmick, just like in Wii Sports and the hunting game.

I would like PunchOut to be a good game, but like Pat says, I'm not getting my hopes up.

[ViciousXUSMC]

The good thing about kids is that there bodies are not really effected in the same way an adult is when it comes to joints, hyper extending is not going to do the kind of damage it would to you, I can only dream of being as bouncy and flexible as I was as a kid again.

But like most things things in the word, adult supervision and attention could remedy it.  A 5 year old is not going to be buying a Wii so the parent that did buy it could take the time to teach the 5 year old proper form.  I actually have a 5 year old she is incredibly smart and would have no problems accepting instructions on how to play a game properly.

[ChadTower]

I made that comment when you said playing the game with good form will save your elbows, then you suggest doing something that isn't good form, but will destroy your wrists.

If what I suggested destroys your wrists there wouldn't be a guy over 20 with functional hands.  You can beat the flailing 6 year old consistently with a shorter flailing motion.  I'm not saying that makes Wii Sports a good boxing game.  I'm saying the bee defense is not unbeatable.

Vicious is right - kids can take it.  It's the old farts that can't.

[patrickl]

I actually have a 5 year old she is incredibly smart and would have no problems accepting instructions on how to play a game properly.

The problem is that because kids learn so fast, they quickly find out how to use the controllers in the most effective way. That's by quick short motions. Not by long and smooth sweeps. So the "proper" way to play a game is actually what they are doing already.

[Dartful Dodger]

Good luck teaching your kid the lessons between doing something the right way that’s harder but healthy and the wrong way that’s easier but unhealthy.

If you can do that maybe you can give lectures for the Major Leagues.

[ChadTower]

If you want your kid to do this the right way put the stupid Wiimote down and go outside with him.  There is no "right way" in boxing a television.

[patrickl]

If you want your kid to do this the right way put the stupid Wiimote down and go outside with him.  There is no "right way" in boxing a television.

I don't think the neighbours would be amused if I teach my kid to beat up their kids 

[ChadTower]

I don't think the neighbours would be amused if I teach my kid to beat up their kids 

So?  Would you rather your kids get beaten up while your neighbors are happy?   

Learning to fight does not necessarily mean going out and beating people up...

[Dartful Dodger]

At that age size is more important than technique.

If you don't want your kid to be beaten up, you'd be better off sitting him down infront of the Wii and feed him Ho-Ho's and Cheetoes.  Then training him to fight.

[ChadTower]

At that age size is more important than technique.

If you don't want your kid to be beaten up, you'd be better off sitting him down infront of the Wii and feed him Ho-Ho's and Cheetoes.  Then training him to fight.

Size is only most important in the absence of ability.  You get a kid that can box or a kid with a green belt and the size of the other kid is irrelevant unless he's 4-5 years older.

Where I went to school, though, even that didn't really matter much.  It was all about numbers.  1 kid always lost because the other would show up with 3 friends.

[patrickl]

Anyway, I'm not going to take my kid to go boxing for real, so he will have to make do with the Wii.

[knave]

I would rather kids in general get off their butts and flail at the TV than sit on the couch eating cheeto's and hoho's.

[ChadTower]

Anyway, I'm not going to take my kid to go boxing for real, so he will have to make do with the Wii.

I wonder if kids now are flailing around like idiots when they fight for real...

[Lecithin]

Anyway, I'm not going to take my kid to go boxing for real, so he will have to make do with the Wii.

I wonder if kids now are flailing around like idiots when they fight for real...

I work in a high school, all kids do and always have flailed around like idiots when the fight. Also, like someone else said, its never a fair fight. The one kids gets called a 'tough guy' by the other 4 guys that of course wouldn't say a thing alone.

As for the game, I hope it all the best and I find that while the Wii controls can be terrible, when a company takes it seriously the games can and do end up being amazing.

[ChadTower]

Okay, now I have to get this game.  It's not even a question.

[Dartful Dodger]

When did Fat Albert become a personal trainer for boxers?

[patrickl]

Okay, now I have to get this game.  It's not even a question.

It looks a bit boring in that clip though?

[RTSDaddy2]

GOOD GOD!! 

Chad, thanks for the video clips, and I'll second that... I'll  BE in line for that one.  I don't know the plans for it, but it would be interesting if the publisher considered Wifi - perhaps a competition so that as you ascend through the ranks you must beat a person ranked higher than you to move up...something like that....just for extra play value.

[ChadTower]

Making it multiplayer would be a complete change to the concept of the game, though.  This isn't Ring King.

[ClubNinja]

Crap.  I don't want to buy a Wii again, I don't want to buy a Wii again. 

[ChadTower]

Crap.  I don't want to buy a Wii again, I don't want to buy a Wii again. 

I tell you what... when the weather warms up come over to my place on a saturday and we'll get this projected on the side of the house.

[Dartful Dodger]

Crap.  I don't want to buy a Wii again, I don't want to buy a Wii again. 

Wait for it to be released and give people a week or two to play it.

The first time I tried the Wii Fit I almost went out and bought a Wii.

Luckily I get paid every other week, so I had a week to try it at my parents.  I’ve used it about 6 times before I completely lost interest in it.