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Author Topic: Black Hawk Down...um, what?  (Read 4947 times)

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Re: Black Hawk Down...um, what?
« Reply #40 on: March 05, 2009, 01:56:58 pm »

It's just funny that the people who tend to hate Black Hawk Down, love Clinton. 



Dartful, I know that logic isn't really your strong suit, but think really hard.  Think really really hard.  If this is true then what is the flip-side of the coin that must also be true.  Oh . . . right . . . ---Cleveland steamer--- . . . that means people who tend to like Black Hawk Down hate Clinton.  Is that what you're saying?  You'll like any movie so long as it paints Clinton in a bad light?

Most hilarious is that the thought never even occurred to me before Dartful brought it up.  It's funny too, cos I've made clear about a bazillion times that I think Michael Moore is an idiot and I dislike his movies (Actually, I thought Bowling For Columbine was good aside from the unethical ---Cleveland steamer--- pulled on Heston, and the only other one I saw was F-911, which I thought was a piece of ---Cleveland steamer---).  I loved Frasier, which was a TV show with the raison d'etre being to make fun of the elitism and hypocrisy of the far left.  At any rate, if your comments are showing any irrational political bias coloring a review of BHD, it is your own.

By the way, if it's just timing and relevancy, how did Schindler's List get on my list?  How about 30 Seconds Over Tokyo, which is about America's response to the Pearl Harbor attacks?  Good lord, how did Braveheart and Ran get on my list?  Oh yeah, and how do so many Vietnam War movies make it into my list?  The Vietnam war doesn't exactly leave the beloved JFK or Lyndon B. Johnson smelling like roses now, does it?

LMAO . . . I'm starting to think that maybe Black Hawk Down just sucks.
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Re: Black Hawk Down...um, what?
« Reply #41 on: March 05, 2009, 02:17:23 pm »
Not everything can be as good as Zombie Strippers.

I just added it to my DVD queue and moved it up to position #1.


Take a look at the top two billed people.  How can you go wrong with Jenna Jameson and Robert Englund?  The two probably make up a double digit percentage of my total movie watching time even without Zombie Strippers!

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Re: Black Hawk Down...um, what?
« Reply #42 on: March 05, 2009, 02:19:57 pm »
LMAO . . . I'm starting to think that maybe Black Hawk Down just sucks.
No it doesn't. You just love Clinton.
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Re: Black Hawk Down...um, what?
« Reply #43 on: March 05, 2009, 02:22:58 pm »
LMAO . . . I'm starting to think that maybe Black Hawk Down just sucks.
No it doesn't. You just love Clinton.


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Re: Black Hawk Down...um, what?
« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2009, 03:58:46 pm »
Take a look at the top two billed people.  How can you go wrong with Jenna Jameson and Robert Englund?  The two probably make up a double digit percentage of my total movie watching time even without Zombie Strippers!

Nuts!  I didn't read anything past the title and I thought that was Pamela Anderson on the cover.


Every once in a while I log on to NetFlix with my friends and/or girlfriend, so now I'll have to add some documentaries and foreign films to my queue before the soft-core titles start showing up on my movies you'll love page.

On a positive note, I'll have Zombie Strippers by Saturday.

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Re: Black Hawk Down...um, what?
« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2009, 06:21:38 pm »
When BHD real events were happening, I was almost out of the service. So, no, I don't think so. In fact, it seems to appeal to those who were too young to be in, but were inundated with it via the media and anything else social and familial, who think it's something worthwhile.

Further, the relevance comment is the subjective part. There's an interesting aspect about 'history'. It tells you about where you came from (to some degree anyway) and shows you some things you might do, and others you might not. Not that I think it's totally necessary, mind. There are tools that transcend culture....but one must be inclined to discover them....and most are not. Regardless, if one is TELLING A STORY, then there's a certain obligation to the form....or, rather, certain conditions by which one does or can.
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Re: Black Hawk Down...um, what?
« Reply #46 on: March 05, 2009, 07:38:43 pm »
When BHD real events were happening, I was almost out of the service. So, no, I don't think so. In fact, it seems to appeal to those who were too young to be in, but were inundated with it via the media and anything else social and familial, who think it's something worthwhile.

Further, the relevance comment is the subjective part.

I think the subjective part is a person's opinion of the overall the movie.

The relevance just guides their opinion.

Maybe it appeals to those who were too young to understand it, because they were just watching it for the entertainment value.

I don't think the movie mentions the president by name, so to them it's like any other war movie where a fictional president gets caught up in the politics of a situation and soldiers are left to fend for themselves.


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Re: Black Hawk Down...um, what?
« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2009, 03:45:23 am »
What does Clinton have to do with the movie? I saw a documentary about a raid on Faluja and it was exactly the same type of stuff. Soldiers are always fending for themselves.

Lol it really does sound like the only reason you like the movie is because you hate Clinton. Why though? You blame him for that helicopter being shot down? Or for Bush sr sending US troops to Somalia? Or do you blame Clinton for Bush listenening to the UN to send in troops? Or do you blame Clinton for trying to take out Aideed (to try and end the conflict).

The only serious blame I can come up with is that the retreat made the US look weak, but that has no bearing on "Black Hawk Down". It's a result that came afterwards. I'd say it makes sense for Clinton to saying "---fudgesicle--- this! Let the Somali's rot in their own misery if they don't want our help" after that incident. Killing a thousand Somali in an effort to resuce the downed airmen had made accepting US help impossible anyway.
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Re: Black Hawk Down...um, what?
« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2009, 05:52:51 am »
What does Clinton have to do with the movie? I saw a documentary about a raid on Faluja and it was exactly the same type of stuff. Soldiers are always fending for themselves.

Lol it really does sound like the only reason you like the movie is because you hate Clinton. Why though? You blame him for that helicopter being shot down? Or for Bush sr sending US troops to Somalia? Or do you blame Clinton for Bush listenening to the UN to send in troops? Or do you blame Clinton for trying to take out Aideed (to try and end the conflict).

The only serious blame I can come up with is that the retreat made the US look weak, but that has no bearing on "Black Hawk Down". It's a result that came afterwards. I'd say it makes sense for Clinton to saying "---fudgesicle--- this! Let the Somali's rot in their own misery if they don't want our help" after that incident. Killing a thousand Somali in an effort to resuce the downed airmen had made accepting US help impossible anyway.


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Re: Black Hawk Down...um, what?
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2009, 02:22:20 pm »

I'm still trying to figure out who the beloved Lyndon B Johnson is!


Obviously it goes without saying that the adjective applied only to JFK   ;D
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Re: Black Hawk Down...um, what?
« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2009, 08:33:47 pm »
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