Author Topic: Problems with Mr. Do! (thread breakup) (Read 4364 times)

themonk3y · « **on:** January 30, 2009, 12:45:51 pm »

Mr. Do: This game worked for quite some time and it was one of my favorites. Its basically Dig Dug and I guess that's why I liked it so much because after windows 98, this game wasn't on my computer anymore. I'm guessing a memory chip or something went on this one day because I turned it on and it make a terrible high pitched shrieking noise and then scrambled enemies show up and that was that.

The machine

The mayhem

SirPeale · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2009, 01:50:34 pm »

DK: Definitely cap job. The foldover is a classic symptom on a Sanyo EZ.

Frogger: the monitor appears to be working, but there may be board issues of some kind. Start checking voltages, fuses, connections and the like.

Mr. Do: definitely a board problem. Start by double checking connections, verifying voltages, reseat socketed chips.

T&F: Rebuild the trackballs.

themonk3y · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2009, 02:16:08 pm »

By rebuild do you mean new rollers and bearings? I'm waiting to buy anything for that until I get my tax refund :-P All that money is going towards these machines. I think I'm going to restore Track and Field Completely, I just have to make a couple decisions about the paint and side are and such.

Ummon · « **Reply #3 on:** January 31, 2009, 11:21:42 am »

I vaguely remember hearing there was a track ball version. Kinda rare isn't it?

FrizzleFried · « **Reply #4 on:** January 31, 2009, 11:41:14 am »

Quote from: themonk3y on January 30, 2009, 12:45:51 pm

Hey everyone, I just recently started getting back into arcade machines and wanted to start by getting each one working before I start restoring any of them. So instead of making a million topics on here, I thought it would be a good idea to just make one topic and put all my questions in here.

1) DK: The main problem with DK is the screen. Its dark, barely visible and looks like it folds over onto itself on the left side. Other than that it works almost 100%. The first response I get is probably gonna say cap kit, but is that going to solve the screen folding problem? Or just improve colors?

It will rectify the folding and the colors...

FrizzleFried · « **Reply #5 on:** January 31, 2009, 11:42:34 am »

T&F trackball version is semi-rare as it's not highly desirable. The TB made the game VERY easy compared to the button version.

themonk3y · « **Reply #6 on:** January 31, 2009, 12:56:40 pm »

The trackball version wasn't even from the factory. It was just a conversion kit that arcades had the option of putting on. I have the conversion manual somewhere around the basement. I'd love to get a hold of a standard control panel and make it so I could switch them whenever I wanted to. But I've been looking and haven't had any luck.

themonk3y · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2009, 01:33:28 pm »

I took a look at Mr. Do! today and I made a really really stupid mistake and I think I might have ruined a chip. I stuck an IC in backwards and played it for a while because I actually had picture. Everything is fine now except my character and the enemies all show up as blue blocks. I'm not really sure if this was all me though, because with the IC flipped even the apples were blocks. But now only the enemies and I are.

Here is a picture of the current situation...

themonk3y · « **Reply #8 on:** February 01, 2009, 01:44:52 pm »

Just did a self test (really nice feature of this cabinet) and the RAM and the ROM are OK. Not quite sure what else could be causing these colored blocks. Voltages are pretty much dead on. 5.06 volts right out of the PSU (after a little adjustment). Anywhere else I could check voltage?

themonk3y · « **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2009, 04:49:50 pm »

So I think I may have fried the D5 or D6 memory chip. The manual says they are 2732 32k eprom chips. I looked online and was able to find a place I can order them and have them programed as well so I think I'm in the clear, I just wanted to double check and see if this is plausible and if anyone has used this site before.

http://www.arcadechips.com/product_info.php?products_id=74&osCsid=8443c06990d0d72c997cb4802058bbdb

They don't look exactly like the ones in that picture but I'm sure that's just because they are updated versions on the chip. Hopefully this will rectify the problem.

Edit: I just realized I need a minimum order of $15 to check out at that site. They have nothing else I really need there. Does anyone know of another site that has this same kind of service?

Level42 · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2009, 04:57:37 pm »

Am I the only one thinking you should have put up a separate thread for each cab ? This is going to be hard to follow this way....just a suggestion of course...

themonk3y · « **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2009, 05:36:58 pm »

A good suggestion too. I just didn't want to flood the board with a bunch of topics at once. And since I'm not working on a complete restoration yet, I'd be posting in each thread every day for the most part. I'll look into breaking it up.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #12 on:** February 01, 2009, 06:47:25 pm »

ArcadeChips has had problems in the past and dropped off the face of the earth for a while leaving people without refunds or orders. He resurfaced recently and I understand has been putting things right.

I use HobbyRoms -- Steph is a great guy and I've never heard of anybody having a problem.

I believe that ArcadeComponents stocks those EPROMS, but I've never actually asked Raymond if he supplies programming (although his site says he will also do custom programming, so I guess so). He is a member here (channelmaniac) and a really good guy (his technical logs have been rather helpful to me).

I like topic floods like these!

themonk3y · « **Reply #13 on:** February 01, 2009, 11:00:02 pm »

I think I'm gonna go with Hobby Roms on this one if I can figure out exactly what I need. What I have are Toshiba TMM2732D chips.

I wasn't able to find them on the site though. I hate to make it seem like I want someone else to do this for me but I've really got no idea if that D on the end of the chip and same with the 3AA0. That and the website doesn't list a 2732 by Toshiba just a bunch of other brands.

Also, do I have to send him the chips or does he have all of these in stock?

Level42 · « **Reply #14 on:** February 02, 2009, 04:23:59 am »

I think any 2732 will do. About the files, ask the guy himself....don't wanna touch forum rules....

channelmaniac · « **Reply #15 on:** February 02, 2009, 10:24:48 am »

Steph at Hobbyroms can hook you up.

I can also. It's pretty simple to program an EPROM.

The files you need to use are in MAME dumps. It's nice to be able to use those files to restore old games.

RJ

themonk3y · « **Reply #16 on:** February 02, 2009, 01:43:58 pm »

I'm in communication with Steph right now and hopefully I'll have the chip by the end of the week. Noticed another small problem today as well. The screen's color seems to be a bit off in the bottom right corner. Not quite sure what is causing it because there is nothing magnetic around it or anything that would interfere with the signal.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2009, 01:54:32 pm »

If you move the cab, you can end up with some discolouration. If the degaussing coil is working on the monitor, it should go away the next time it is powered on from cold.

themonk3y · « **Reply #18 on:** February 02, 2009, 02:18:48 pm »

Hm... hopefully it works then. I'll leave it unplugged until I get my chip and then give it a shot. Think a couple days unplugged will be enough?

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #19 on:** February 02, 2009, 02:21:24 pm »

Oh yeah.

themonk3y · « **Reply #20 on:** February 05, 2009, 12:32:50 am »

Got impatient and tried a degaussing coil. Nothing. Still the same discolored fruit and whatnot.

SirPeale · « **Reply #21 on:** February 06, 2009, 04:35:46 pm »

Your colors look ok to me.

themonk3y · « **Reply #22 on:** February 06, 2009, 05:35:24 pm »

The picture doesn't really show it well. Its not drastic, but in the lower right corner the cherries are purple instead of red. Just me being anal about things.

RayB · « **Reply #23 on:** February 06, 2009, 06:50:02 pm »

that will go away after a while. Try orienting the entire cab a different direction or location.

themonk3y · « **Reply #24 on:** February 09, 2009, 07:14:00 pm »

ITS WORKING!

Got the chip in the mail today from HobbyRoms.com. Service was excellent and Steph was really helpful. Definitely recommend them for ROM work. He's a updated picture of the display. Still a little discoloration but I can deal with that now that there aren't blue blocks running around my screen anymore.

Also, I've looked around but hadn't found anything on my own. Does anyone out there know if there is a high score save chip out there for this machine? Also, I believe what I have is a generic cabinet by Universal for plug and play depending on which game you want. Anyone have suggestions on places to order new brick artwork for the screen and CP?

SirPeale · « **Reply #25 on:** February 09, 2009, 07:19:31 pm »

That discoloration is definitely a gaussing issue. You said you already tried degaussing coil?

Try Matt Osborne, he might do a HS kit for Mr Do.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #26 on:** February 09, 2009, 08:39:07 pm »

jrok has instructions for assembling a Mr. Do! HS kit:

http://www.jrok.com/sohs/mrdo_shs.html

themonk3y · « **Reply #27 on:** February 09, 2009, 08:59:16 pm »

Yeah, I already tried the degaussing coil. I suppose I'll try it again and see what happens.

themonk3y · « **Reply #28 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:33:18 pm »

I really wish I knew about that High Score k it before I ordered the other EPROM. I could have killed two birds with one stone.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #29 on:** February 10, 2009, 01:38:33 pm »

I didn't know about it myself until I browsed jrok's site the other night.

themonk3y · « **Reply #30 on:** February 10, 2009, 02:20:03 pm »

Now I really want an EPROM programmer but I know I'll use it maybe twice or thrice and then never touch it again. I just hate waiting for things in the mail. But not $150 worth.

SirPeale · « **Reply #31 on:** February 10, 2009, 07:54:49 pm »

I should be getting one shortly. I have no idea how to use it, so give me a little bit before I start burning anything.

themonk3y · « **Reply #32 on:** February 10, 2009, 08:44:19 pm »

I saw a couple cheap ones on eBay for $15-20. They use serial ports and printer ports though, so I don't know how I'd use them. I'll have to dust off some of the old hardware downstairs and see if I can even have a system to use it on. If I do I think I'll give it a go. Why not for $20 right?

SirPeale · « **Reply #33 on:** February 11, 2009, 10:18:21 am »

Mine showed up on my doorstep today. As soon as I can get the software onto the DOS machine in my kids room I'll start experimenting.

themonk3y · « **Reply #34 on:** February 13, 2009, 09:15:13 am »

Howd that programmer work out? Or have you not had enough time to fiddle with it?

SirPeale · « **Reply #35 on:** February 13, 2009, 06:16:35 pm »

I haven't had time to fiddle with it. I need to figure out how I'm going to get the program onto the old computer. No floppy in this machine.

themonk3y · « **Reply #36 on:** February 13, 2009, 08:09:05 pm »

I HATE floppy drives.


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