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Table Saw Holdout
« on: November 25, 2008, 10:28:35 pm »
As a complete woodworking newb I struggled through my first full size upright cab with only a jigsaw and crazy amounts of sanding.  10 minutes with my new table saw and  :notworthy: flashes of wasted days sprung up before me  :tool:

Beveled cuts, quick sized rip cuts...wow. Why did I wait so long!?


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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2008, 08:18:36 am »
A good table saw is a great investment.  Just watch your fingers and beware of kickback! :)

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2008, 12:59:45 pm »
Its amazing what difference the right tools for the job can make.

A decent table saw is definitely next on my list.

Have fun  :)

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2008, 01:34:57 pm »
Its amazing what difference the right tools for the job can make.

A decent table saw is definitely next on my list.

Have fun  :)

All that quality work you do and you don't even have a table saw?  :o

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2008, 01:45:09 pm »
Router, jigsaw, crappy circ saw (never use it) and a picnic table is what I have at the moment. I have just bought a decent press drill though to replace the crap one I have been borrowing of a friend.

Im really looking forward to moving out with my GF in a couple of months and getting a propper set up :) She thinks im saving up for furniture, little does she know  >:D

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2008, 02:41:13 pm »
I can live without a circular saw... I can live without a compound miter saw.. but I would be lost with out my table saw.

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2008, 02:46:17 pm »
Router, jigsaw, crappy circ saw (never use it) and a picnic table is what I have at the moment. I have just bought a decent press drill though to replace the crap one I have been borrowing of a friend.

Im really looking forward to moving out with my GF in a couple of months and getting a propper set up :) She thinks im saving up for furniture, little does she know  >:D

My wife's first words to me whenever I go to buy something at Home Depot or Lowes is: "You're not coming home with a table saw, right???"

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2008, 02:52:08 pm »
Router, jigsaw, crappy circ saw (never use it) and a picnic table is what I have at the moment.


Same here.  All hand tools, a picnic table, some sawhorses, and some sawboards I made from Drew's tutorial.

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2008, 03:17:04 pm »
Router, jigsaw, crappy circ saw (never use it) and a picnic table is what I have at the moment.


Same here.  All hand tools, a picnic table, some sawhorses, and some sawboards I made from Drew's tutorial.

Yeah, but what have you built lately?  ;D

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2008, 03:20:22 pm »
Yeah, but what have you built lately?  ;D


My bathroom... a loft and three level builtin shelves in the shed... I'm framing the basement... most of my work has not been arcade related but there has been a good amount of it.

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2008, 03:22:12 pm »
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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2008, 10:56:55 pm »
Well day two with the table saw and man oh man...all my cuts for my CP and new Bartop project (Does it ever end!?!?!) done so quickly and cleanly tonight...

The Jigsaw is finally relegated to its design...jig cuts ;)
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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #12 on: November 27, 2008, 02:43:21 am »
I remember i made thread about wanting to buy a table saw and everyone was like, "You're gonna cut your fingers off!!"

I bought it anyways and while I ended up having only three fingers and one glass eye, I'm doing some cool stuff with it.  ;D

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #13 on: November 27, 2008, 10:58:22 am »
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I bought it anyways and while I ended up having only three fingers and one glass eye, I'm doing some cool stuff with it.

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #14 on: November 27, 2008, 11:41:16 am »

The tablesaw is great for smaller stuff... may not have been all that useful in your full upright unless you bought a cabinet saw.  Can't say I would want to try and cut a 4x8 sheet with a benchtop unless it was an old school saw with a huge cast iron surface.

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2008, 02:39:22 pm »

The tablesaw is great for smaller stuff... may not have been all that useful in your full upright unless you bought a cabinet saw.  Can't say I would want to try and cut a 4x8 sheet with a benchtop unless it was an old school saw with a huge cast iron surface.

Maybe not for a benchtop but if you have a floor standing model you could use one of these roller ball stands:

Ryobi Roller Ball Stand



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For use with mitre and table saws. Robust construction to support extra wide timber and floor fixings for added stability. Roller ball system allows fast feeding of large sheet material. Portable design for easy transportation and storage.

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I'm definitely going to invest in one when I get a table saw.

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2008, 04:45:15 pm »
Thanks for the link, that looks like a great aid. What would have helped me with my upright is just streamlining the smaller cuts. I could just rip the 4x8 into halves with the jigsaw and then cut the smaller pieces properly...instead of doing everything with the jigsaw and spending ages sanding/measuring/resanding! ;)

I still can't believe I managed beveled cuts with the jigsaw wavy navy blade :( Last night it was set to 45deg...push it through...just like that.
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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2008, 09:27:07 pm »
I remember i made thread about wanting to buy a table saw and everyone was like, "You're gonna cut your fingers off!!"

I bought it anyways and while I ended up having only three fingers and one glass eye, I'm doing some cool stuff with it.  ;D

i remember that thread...i also remember you having the attitude of 'i'll just throw some wood at it while looking away and all will be good...' or something along those lines... :D

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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2008, 09:32:43 am »


I know a guy who made a knockdown version of that out of a couple bar stools and skateboards.  Works really well for him.

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #19 on: November 30, 2008, 06:37:17 pm »
I remember i made thread about wanting to buy a table saw and everyone was like, "You're gonna cut your fingers off!!"

I bought it anyways and while I ended up having only three fingers and one glass eye, I'm doing some cool stuff with it.  ;D

i remember that thread...i also remember you having the attitude of 'i'll just throw some wood at it while looking away and all will be good...' or something along those lines... :D

Yup.  ;)

Last project i used it for was to cut wood to create a basic canopy for my brother's house. I haven't used it in a while though. So it's just sitting there collecting dust. The latest thing I've done with it is clean it out. You wont believe how much saw dust collects around the motor and inside area.

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2008, 04:00:45 pm »
I remember i made thread about wanting to buy a table saw and everyone was like, "You're gonna cut your fingers off!!"

I bought it anyways and while I ended up having only three fingers and one glass eye, I'm doing some cool stuff with it.  ;D

My grandfather was a carpenter... with seven fingers and three nubs... seriously. Growing up knowing what happened to him has always given me a healthy respect for power tools. If i had the money this would be the table saw for me..... of course it's probably cheaper than cutting off a finger.

http://www.sawstop.com/index.htm

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2008, 04:27:42 pm »
That looks like a nice bit of kit!

Gotta love the hotdog video!  ;D

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« Reply #22 on: December 03, 2008, 01:29:08 pm »
That looks like a nice bit of kit!

Gotta love the hotdog video!  ;D

It's really cool. The only bad thing about it is as I understand it, is that once the break is released to stop the blade the saw is pretty much shot... and I think these things retail somewhere between two and three grand.

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #23 on: December 03, 2008, 05:11:46 pm »
It's really cool. The only bad thing about it is as I understand it, is that once the break is released to stop the blade the saw is pretty much shot... and I think these things retail somewhere between two and three grand.

They sell brake cartridges in packs of 10, so I think you would just have to buy a new brake and saw blade.

Either way, it's still cheaper than a finger  ;)

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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2008, 09:37:05 am »
They sell brake cartridges in packs of 10, so I think you would just have to buy a new brake and saw blade.

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« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2008, 02:48:26 pm »
It's really cool. The only bad thing about it is as I understand it, is that once the break is released to stop the blade the saw is pretty much shot... and I think these things retail somewhere between two and three grand.

They sell brake cartridges in packs of 10, so I think you would just have to buy a new brake and saw blade.

Either way, it's still cheaper than a finger  ;)

Cool, I didn't see that.

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2008, 02:55:46 pm »
Maybe I am just a paranoid freak job.. but I never make fast cuts on my saws, any of them.. be they table, jig, router devices, not even with my dremel.

I luv the sales pitch they throw on the video.  1 accident per 9 minutes!!!  A guy looking away from the table to see where a co-working is going with a plank, all the while his hand is on top and on the side of the wood and in the line of the blade.

I can't imagine ever losing that somewhat fearful mind about my tools and losing enough respect for their speed and power as to make such stupid mistakes or just plain careless errors.  Hell, I still call my wife over to watch me as I router things, knowing I would need her near if something went screwy with that sucker.

I would rather make a sloppy cut due to careful speed and movement control and then have to sand for a while, rather than speed along in my cabinet creations and find myself no longer able to work due to stupid accidents in the garage.

I fear my wife's -I told ya so's- far more than any cut at the table.  :blah:

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« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2008, 05:26:34 pm »
Yep...I treat each cut with respect as if each one could potentially dismember me...grim but required when dealing with that type of body altering power :(


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« Reply #28 on: December 12, 2008, 06:24:37 pm »
Yep...I treat each cut with respect as if each one could potentially dismember me...grim but required when dealing with that type of body altering power :(




Well of course, but the #1 safety precaution that is hardly ever mentioned is don't work with power tools if you are tired. I think that that's what happened to my grandfather. He didn't loose all three fingers in one incident... he had several. As a professional carpenter, trying to make a deadline I am sure he was working to hard at the time and lost his concentration at the wrong moment. He was a stickler for safety and he was a pretty intelligent man. You can be as careful as you can, but if you are the bit most drowsy and operating a power tool (or anything else for that matter) that's when accidents happen.

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Re: Table Saw Holdout
« Reply #29 on: December 12, 2008, 07:21:33 pm »
hehe .... I built my arcade machines and jukebox with a scroll saw, drill and a hand saw.

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« Reply #30 on: December 12, 2008, 08:15:13 pm »
Yep...I treat each cut with respect as if each one could potentially dismember me...grim but required when dealing with that type of body altering power :(




Well of course, but the #1 safety precaution that is hardly ever mentioned is don't work with power tools if you are tired. I think that that's what happened to my grandfather. He didn't loose all three fingers in one incident... he had several. As a professional carpenter, trying to make a deadline I am sure he was working to hard at the time and lost his concentration at the wrong moment. He was a stickler for safety and he was a pretty intelligent man. You can be as careful as you can, but if you are the bit most drowsy and operating a power tool (or anything else for that matter) that's when accidents happen.

That's why I do all my cutting first thing in the morning as I begin work on my cabinet.. makes the folks around me pissed and means I am fresh for cutting and verbal assaults.  :afro: