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Re: iron man
« Reply #40 on: May 06, 2008, 08:19:28 am »
Keep in mind that Joel Schumacher wasn't entirely responsible for the two bad Batman movies. Up until that point, he was a respected filmmaker (still is, if you leave D.C. Cab, his Batmans, and The Number 23 out....I mean, come on, St Elmo's Fire, Lost Boys, Falling Down, Flatliners, The Client, A Time to Kill, Tigerland, Phone Booth).
Warner Bros was upset with Tim Burton's dark film Batman Returns. They wanted to sell toys, and a lot of parents complained about images of The Penguin on their kids McDonald's cups. WB had a much more kid-friendly image in mind.
If you ever have the chance (I haven't), listen to the commentary for Batman and Robin. It's one long apology from Schumacher. What I have heard of it is great. He's very humble.
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Re: iron man
« Reply #41 on: May 06, 2008, 11:52:38 am »
It's official, Iron Man 2 is on the way:  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7385049.stm

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Re: iron man
« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2008, 11:55:47 am »
It's official, Iron Man 2 is on the way:  http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/7385049.stm

Not exactly a shocker there...

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Re: iron man
« Reply #43 on: May 06, 2008, 11:59:36 am »
Not exactly a shocker there...
Nope, but I figured it was worth posting since some people here were questioning if a sequel would be made.

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Re: iron man
« Reply #44 on: May 06, 2008, 01:33:57 pm »
Not exactly a shocker there...
Nope, but I figured it was worth posting since some people here were questioning if a sequel would be made.

He means me.  I just hope it doesn't turn into another poorly made sequel.


The problem is despite making 100 million already the corporate people might still consider it unsuccessful and not go forward with a sequel.  Yes they would be stupid but since when has anyone in the upper echelons of business ever done anything right.


Your heart is in the right place, but your analysis is severely flawed.  The numbers guarantee that another Iron Man will be made.  This is a PERFECT example of the upper echelons of business doing things wrong, not the other way around.  Every time something great comes out, the upper echelons of business go into immediate Xerox mode.  They say, "Good god!  Look at those numbers.  Get five sequels in production IMMEDIATELY!"  And we end up with Joel Shumacher Batmans and Bret Ratner X-men. 

It is the fact that the upper echelons of business often seem unable to do things right that GUARANTEES that Iron Man 2 will be made, regardless of whether the director is ready to do a sequel, regardless of whether a decent script has been made, etc.  The movie will be made, and it will be released on time.  Period.

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Re: iron man
« Reply #45 on: May 06, 2008, 01:46:09 pm »
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I just hope it doesn't turn into another poorly made sequel.

Maybe it'll be like X-Men and Spider-man, where the second film is actually better than the first. Of course, both X-Men and Spidey's third movies were crap, so maybe we'll just get two Iron Man movies, then The Avengers movie.

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Re: iron man
« Reply #46 on: May 06, 2008, 02:03:52 pm »
Well the first one is a pretty accurate representation of the comic, correct?  Of course they changed the plot a little for a modern world so we can expect the same from the sequel.  So I'd imagine the second would be a direct continuation.
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Re: iron man
« Reply #47 on: May 06, 2008, 02:54:21 pm »
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I just hope it doesn't turn into another poorly made sequel.

Maybe it'll be like X-Men and Spider-man, where the second film is actually better than the first. Of course, both X-Men and Spidey's third movies were crap, so maybe we'll just get two Iron Man movies, then The Avengers movie.

I recently re-watched the X-men movies, and I think the first one is by far the best of the series. Have to agree though that Spidey 2 was all around better.

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Re: iron man
« Reply #48 on: May 08, 2008, 07:42:36 pm »
Who wants to build an Iron Man suit? we can use nerf guns for the weapons lmao  :laugh2:

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Re: iron man
« Reply #49 on: May 12, 2008, 12:20:06 pm »
Who wants to build an Iron Man suit? we can use nerf guns for the weapons lmao  :laugh2:
Whats sad is thats the first thought my friend and I had, and talked about on the car ride home, after the movie.
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Re: iron man
« Reply #50 on: May 12, 2008, 12:30:21 pm »
I'm afraid that anything we could build would be roughly as useful as a medieval suit of armor.   I don't know that putting on a full suit of armor and running around with Nerf weapons would be very much fun.   ;D
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Re: iron man
« Reply #51 on: May 12, 2008, 09:19:55 pm »
well.... if you remember.... hallloween costumes !!!

I still remember the transformable transformers halloween costumes....
that is impressive...

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Re: iron man
« Reply #52 on: May 12, 2008, 09:39:41 pm »
BTW, where in the hell did Obidiah get that custom Iron Man power module extractor tool?  That was impressive!
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Re: iron man
« Reply #54 on: May 15, 2008, 10:01:08 pm »
BTW, where in the hell did Obidiah get that custom Iron Man power module extractor tool?  That was impressive!

I was wondering about that too.  He looked at Stark's chest one time and from that he figured out the specs on a tool to rip it out?  Not to mention wouldn't Tony have been hurt by one of the bits of shrapnel getting loose and cutting something?

Who wants to build an Iron Man suit? we can use nerf guns for the weapons lmao  :laugh2:

Lol my friend said the same thing.  If you can live with the mark one then its possible to get a decent suit made.  Why use nerf weapons when real ones would suffice?  I mean what's the point of a metal suit of power armor if you aren't going to use it correctly.
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Re: iron man
« Reply #55 on: May 19, 2008, 06:53:46 am »
Saw this on Saturday. While it was good, it wasn't nearly as good as it is being made out to be. I have to agree that the acting was superb...up until the climax.

My main gripe about the movie was also the highlight of the movie: They made the mechanics of the suit 'believable', but then everything else in the movie was utterly un-believeable.

The whole beginning when he was building the suit irritated the crap out of me.  The fact they let him build that stuff was ridiculous. The main bad guy SAW what he was doing, looked at the blueprints, etc. He STILL let him continue.

In closing, Downey Jr. was excellent. Put anyone else in that role and the movie would have been worse than DareDevil. The plot...well I'll just say that Downey was great again!

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Re: iron man
« Reply #56 on: May 19, 2008, 08:23:26 am »
Generally, that's how I felt about it too, though not necessarily for all the same reasons.  I really enjoyed it, but I don't think it's as good as either of the first two Spidermans or first two X-Men movies.  On the suit part, didn't they think he was building them that missile that he demoed to the military?  I got the impression that they couldn't make out the blueprints for the suit because you had to lay them all on top of each other in order to see what they really were.
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« Reply #57 on: May 19, 2008, 08:48:08 am »
On the suit part, didn't they think he was building them that missile that he demoed to the military?  I got the impression that they couldn't make out the blueprints for the suit because you had to lay them all on top of each other in order to see what they really were.

A coworker and I were discussing the blueprint thing. I mentioned the villian picked up the whole stack and looked. Coworker said that they were held like a hand of cards, so it wouldn't show up. Its really irrelevant though - once you see the dude start strapping pneumatics to his leg and testing, it is time to tug on the leash.

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Re: iron man
« Reply #58 on: May 19, 2008, 11:59:45 am »
Its really irrelevant though - once you see the dude start strapping pneumatics to his leg and testing, it is time to tug on the leash.

The guy has a flying robotic suit powered by a pace maker that was all build in a cave, and the leg testing is the scene that's to unrealistic?

Besides they did tug on the leash.  After seeing the leg testing they threatened to put a piece of coal in the other guys mouth for lying.

The part after the credits was obvious, the only interesting thing was the actor they used.  Otherwise I wish I would have just read the ending online before seeing the movie and saved myself 10 minutes of watching credits.
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Re: iron man
« Reply #59 on: May 19, 2008, 05:07:25 pm »
Otherwise I wish I would have just read the ending online before seeing the movie and saved myself 22 minutes of watching credits.


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« Reply #60 on: May 20, 2008, 03:17:16 am »

they musta had shorter credits for the international release. i found myself thinking that the credits were rather short for a movie with lots of CGI. after the credits was a surprise to me since as i mentioned earlier i really dont know anything about ironman and friends...


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« Reply #61 on: May 20, 2008, 03:50:31 pm »
I'm not a big Iron man fan either, or I wasn't before this movie, but I knew about the friends through Captain America.  In the beginning it was obvious that long name was going to shorten the way it did.  I didn't foresee the ending but it was never the less anticlimactic.  I guess I’m just pist because I was hoping it would be a scene with the Air Force guy as War Machine.

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« Reply #62 on: May 20, 2008, 09:16:48 pm »

they musta had shorter credits for the international release. i found myself thinking that the credits were rather short for a movie with lots of CGI. after the credits was a surprise to me since as i mentioned earlier i really dont know anything about ironman and friends...

Really? i saw the same credits you saw and they took for bloody ever seriously i got so damn bored waiting i kept going wtf come on you have to have finished already

Also look what i saw online


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« Reply #63 on: May 23, 2008, 07:36:38 am »

they musta had shorter credits for the international release. i found myself thinking that the credits were rather short for a movie with lots of CGI. after the credits was a surprise to me since as i mentioned earlier i really dont know anything about ironman and friends...

Really? i saw the same credits you saw and they took for bloody ever seriously i got so damn bored waiting i kept going wtf come on you have to have finished already

Also look what i saw online


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« Reply #64 on: May 23, 2008, 11:16:54 pm »

they musta had shorter credits for the international release. i found myself thinking that the credits were rather short for a movie with lots of CGI. after the credits was a surprise to me since as i mentioned earlier i really dont know anything about ironman and friends...

Really? i saw the same credits you saw and they took for bloody ever seriously i got so damn bored waiting i kept going wtf come on you have to have finished already

Also look what i saw online


kids toys already lol

next time you put your hand on my thigh, im gonna sock you one  ;D


it could well be that most of you sat through the credits only because you knew there would be something at the end. therefore it would seem quite long if you dont normally do that. i however, have no life and ALWAYS sit through the credits.  spotted 'mo henry' again the other day- she did '21'...
I thought u were a chick i mean it is dark in the cinemas :P lol

I always sit through credits i did know there was something at the end but they were longer than most movies thats for sure

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Re: iron man
« Reply #65 on: June 08, 2008, 02:58:23 pm »
I don't know if it was mentioned, but I loved the "vector" style animation during the first end credits.

can someone just spill the beans on the after-credits thing? We didn't stay.
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« Reply #66 on: June 08, 2008, 03:06:58 pm »
can someone just spill the beans on the after-credits thing? We didn't stay.
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