D9200 & ArcadeVGA vs. other video card

[squizz]

the easycab v67.0.2 that you have updated desmatic,
 will that be good for a d9200 with an arcadevga card ?

 as quoted below" and all games look perfect"

thanks

[desmatic]

I dunno.  Someone would have to test the card for support.  If you ran easycab and it didn't work, then most likely no.

[Dariusz]

Hi Guy's,

Just read the above posts on the WG D9200 discussion.

Has there been any new development on a new bios for Andy's ArcadeVGA, or any tools to support him for the WG D9200 so that it supports all or most of the resolutions?.


look forward to any replys

Dariusz

[AndyWarne]

I think the ArcadeVGA with the new D9200 utility which returns control of the 31Khz modes to Windows, is a pretty good solution for the D9200. As well as all the 15Khz games being great (as with a 15Khz monitor), PC Windows games are non-interlaced. The only games which are not natively supported (ie need H/W stretch) are the 25Khz games. There are actually very few of these (admittedly some of the "few" were very popular games).
Changing the BIOS would mean quite a big re-write. The BIOS calculates dot-clock frequencies on the fly using a 15Khz scan rate as a constant. I would need to change the way I designed it. The method of calculating the PLL clock generator information is complex and the actual PLL hardware is aimed at a 15Khz scan rate.
I will probably do it eventually but no timescale yet.

[squizz]

Changing the BIOS would mean quite a big re-write. The BIOS calculates dot-clock frequencies on the fly using a 15Khz scan rate as a constant. I would need to change the way I designed it. The method of calculating the PLL clock generator information is complex and the actual PLL hardware is aimed at a 15Khz scan rate.
I will probably do it eventually but no timescale yet.

  This is a shame
  now im not sure to buy this now or wait for a completed version support for d9200.
     

[Dariusz]

I think the ArcadeVGA with the new D9200 utility which returns control of the 31Khz modes to Windows, is a pretty good solution for the D9200. As well as all the 15Khz games being great (as with a 15Khz monitor), PC Windows games are non-interlaced. The only games which are not natively supported (ie need H/W stretch) are the 25Khz games. There are actually very few of these (admittedly some of the "few" were very popular games).
Changing the BIOS would mean quite a big re-write. The BIOS calculates dot-clock frequencies on the fly using a 15Khz scan rate as a constant. I would need to change the way I designed it. The method of calculating the PLL clock generator information is complex and the actual PLL hardware is aimed at a 15Khz scan rate.
I will probably do it eventually but no timescale yet.

Hi Andy,

Thanks for you information.

I was under the impression (from earlier post) that Desmatic was in the process of developing/publishing a modeline calculator tool that would automate the calculations that you require to produce a bios the worked on the WGD9200.

Has Desmatic approached you on this? Just curios to know if any development work has been done.

Thanks again for your response.

From all the post that I read on the WD9200, it sounds that a lot of people have these monitors (including my self). I imagine as soon a video card is developed that that meets all requirements to emulate screen resolutions as close as possible perfect emulation, I sure that it will be a big hit with the public, and the word will spread.

I do hope that if you do develop something for the above, it will be sooner then later - for the love of it.

Kind Regards,

Dariusz



 

[AndyWarne]

Hi,

I appreciate Desmatics offer but I do already have a number of tools which I used during development. They include a customised version of the VESA GTF calculator, a specially written VGA CRTC register calculator and a calculator for working out the PLL clock generator settings.
Despite using all of these, tweaking was needed for each mode using a calibrated monitor because of the huge number of variables involved and the granularity of the PLL circuitry, the fact that monitors shift the picture with a small change in H frequency etc etc.

[DeathMonk]

Don't be so lazy Andy..  

[skirge66]

I feel like a little fish in a big pond posting  in this thread  
you guys just know way too much about this stuff and i know my questions are going to be remedial but I have to ask

there has been alot of talk here about win xp... how about 2000pro? the system I'm using in my cab is a 1.2gig, with 1gig of ram, the system is currently running 2000pro, and I kinda like it (don't care too much for XP)

I already own a d9200, and wish to use mame32,   from what it is sounding like if I want easy I need to get and arcadevga? I can use easy cab to set it up? is there going to be a prefered FE to use?

just wanted to say thanks in advace for taking time out of you're way over my head conversation to help me out

[tom61]

there has been alot of talk here about win xp... how about 2000pro? the system I'm using in my cab is a 1.2gig, with 1gig of ram, the system is currently running 2000pro, and I kinda like it (don't care too much for XP)

Whatever floats your boat, but the ArcadeVGA does ship with 2K drivers on the CD, so you need to download those online (small inconvience, but hey).

I already own a d9200, and wish to use mame32,  from what it is sounding like if I want easy I need to get and arcadevga?

If all you want is easy, you can use any VGA card with the D9200. If you want easy and pretty much authentic video for 15kHz modes, the ArcadeVGA is the way to go.

I can use easy cab to set it up?

Easy Cab is for setting up AdvanceMame, not mame32, and is untested with the ArcadeVGA.

is there going to be a prefered FE to use?

Look around in the software forum to find one you like.

[jakeblues9]

is the d9200 monitor really worth it i haere alot of good and bad about the monitor
i am looking to decide on viewing in my cab

1.tv
2.pc monitor
3. wg d9200

but there seems to be alot of defectives when it comes to this monitor
if i was playing killer instinct would it look good
if i was playing galaga on it would it look good
how bout space ace???

thanks jake

[PhoneGuy]

 What games use the 25Khz and  "odd 31Khz" modes that are not natively supported by the ArcadeVGA card? I have D9200 and am trying to decide what card to use with it.