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The Greatest Woody ever..... Maybe..... and it's weatherproof
« on: October 04, 2007, 01:13:58 am »
     Below are pictures of the woody cab my friend and I recently built.  I think it looks really good personally.  It's made out of 5/8" pine plywood, and 2x4's.  We stained it and gave it a few coats of Spar urethane because it has to go outside here in Mississippi and be resistant to the elements.  I will post more detailed information later........

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Re: The Greatest Woody ever..... Maybe..... and it's weatherproof
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2007, 02:05:02 am »
pretty cool =]

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Re: The Greatest Woody ever..... Maybe..... and it's weatherproof
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2007, 02:15:41 am »
Why outside?  No room inside or trying to keep the neighbor kids outside?

How did you wire up your controls?  Humidity is going to be a killer.  Quick connectors will oxidize quickly. 

Weatherproof?  It would have to be.  I can picture you and your friend sweating all over the CP in an intense game during a hot summer afternoon.

Looks great.

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Re: The Greatest Woody ever..... Maybe..... and it's weatherproof
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2007, 02:31:18 am »
I live in a 1 bedroom apartment and my wife, step-daughter and I have little room inside as it is (we'll be in the market for a house this time next year).  I did use quick connect terminals, but they're coated in an anti oxidizer compound.  I originally had them soldered, but we wore a switch out playing MVC2 and it was a pain to change out, so I rewired the whole panel with quick connects....  I originally had a pretty long post detailing all the work that was done, but it bummed out while uploading.  I'll be writing a more detailed post in the next couple of days.  One other thing I got my pair of EMS topguns working with this thing earlier this evening.  HOTD3 is awesome.......

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Re: The Greatest Woody ever..... Maybe..... and it's weatherproof
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2007, 09:35:38 am »
Yea redo that write up.  I am really curious about how you weather proofed the control panel.  All those holes and the buttons.  We are talking about some serious modding of you are going to keep the rain out.

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Re: The Greatest Woody ever..... Maybe..... and it's weatherproof
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2007, 10:40:52 am »
     Ok, as promised here is the write up.  About three months ago a friend of mine (Mike) and I were playing some games on my pc.  Well, we started talking about old times and came up with the idea that it'd be cool to have a "real" arcade machine.  Of course the crappy joypads we were using helped to further this idea.  So, the next day I started my search online to see what other people with this idea had done, and I wound up here.  I should note here that you all have created some awesome stuff / restored some awesome stuff.
       The decision was made almost instantly to build myself (and friends) an arcade cabinet.  I had some rather different requirements for mine though, aside from what the average person would.  Here they are in no particular order….

A.   It had to fit through a 30” doorway
B.   Four player control panel
C.   A good sized monitor (I used a 25” tv from a pawn shop)
D.   It had to endure the elements (humidity mainly, it’s on a screened in porch)
E.   It couldn’t look like a drunk monkey put it together with thumb tacks and super glue……

A.   Alright, let me start with A, this cab is sitting on my back porch, I have no other option.  My wife, stepdaughter and I are currently living in a 1-bedroom apartment on the backside of my in-laws home.  (can you say hell)  I have a pretty nice porch, it’s screened in, and is on the shady side of the house.  The doorways into our place range from (30”-33”) so I wanted my cab to fit through them since we’re planning on moving within the next year.  The cab is 29” wide by the way, and roughly 33” deep at the bottom, which makes it very stable.

B.   I wanted a four player control panel so that all my friends could play with me.  I also didn’t want it to be too long or too wide, or otherwise dis-proportionate to the cab.  So we decided to make it 48” wide by 16-19” deep, depending on where you measure it.  As you can probably tell, I didn’t put any spinners/ trackball on there.  As far as wiring goes, I used quick connects, but they have some anti-corrosion compound on them and the switch terminals.  I DID NOT WEATHERPROOF THE BUTTONS…..  they’re plastic, and replaceable, so I didn’t see any need to.  We had an accident, I mean we did a test, by pouring beer into the panel not too long after getting it working initially.  I should note here that the buttons can be washed if you disassemble them first.

C.   The monitor is a 25” tv, I could not see spending more than 100 bucks for something that was going to sit outside.  I lucked up and found a 25” APEX tv with a ton of inputs at a local pawn shop for about $85.  I would like to also note here, that contrary to what so many people say about the arcade monitors, I have seen no considerable difference between the tv using s-video and the arcade monitors I’ve seen in action.  Maybe, I just got lucky.  Anyway, it was decided after placing the tv as into the cabinet, that it would look better with the tube mounted to the bezel.  So I called my brother-in-law (who’s a tv repairman) to come over and make sure I didn’t blow myself up while doing this.  One note here, we were going to put a nice lexan monitor bezel on the machine, however, after playing for a while, we noticed that bugs are attracted to tv’s, DUH.  We left the bezel off because we didn’t want dead bugs stuck between it and the tv.  I did say that this cab in on a screened in porch, but let me remind you it only keeps about 80% of the bugs out.

D.   Enduring the elements, (humidity, hot and cold mainly) was the biggest pain of this project.  I knew from the start that mdf was out of the question as a building material, so I wound up settling on 5/8 pine plywood and 2x4’s.  I did a lot of research on weather proofing outdoor furniture and settled on using spar-urethane, which is supposed to provide a great barrier against the elements for wood.  Also, the original pine color was nice, but I wanted this thing to look like a bar top, so we stained it before urethaning it, using minwax oil based stain (the color is gunstock).  The whole machine has 3 coats of urethane and the top of the cp has 5, and it looks beautiful. 
 
E.   I have seen some awesome cabs on the internet, and I have also seen some nightmares.  I didn’t want to build a nightmare.  I started this project at the end of July / beginning of August, at the time it was 95-105 degrees Fahrenheit with 70-100 percent humidity outside.  WE (Mike and I) sweated a lot, but we got the whole thing assembled in one week.  Initially, the buttons on the cp were soldered and the tv sat on a shelf with a front bezel.  We were so excited that it looked like an arcade cabinet we started playing it immediately.  After about two –three weeks we figured out that we didn’t like the cp layout, the buttons were too close to the joysticks (players 1 &2) and the tv didn’t look so great the way it was mounted.  So we disassembled the whole unit and set forth on fixing the things we didn’t like and finishing it the right way.  Needless to say the high humidity messed with the staining / urethaning, so it wasn’t until last Saturday that we finished.  What you see in the pictures is the finished product hope you like it…….
 
You may note, that we used pegboard for the back, this is for ventilation for the tv tube / pc in the bottom, I know it’s not weatherproof, but it is easily replaceable and lightweight.  One other thing, I have very, very little woodworking background, especially for something this size, and none of my help did either, (except my dad).  Oh yeah, on Other thing, BE CAREFUL WITH WOOD STAIN, IT WILL MESS UP YOUR CLOTHES SHOES, UNDERWEAR.  ESPECIALLY IF YOU POUR THE WHOLE CAN ON YOUR FRIEND…..

I would like to thank Mike for helping pull this off, couldn’t have done this without his help (sorry about the clothes).  I want to thank My wife for not killing me, or making me sleep outside with my cab.  And I’d like to thank my dad and brother-in-law for the help they gave putting this thing toghether.

Next step…. Build a cocktail cab….  or maybe a racing cab…. or maybe a dual racing cab….   Oh, wait, I’m out of room now….

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Re: The Greatest Woody ever..... Maybe..... and it's weatherproof
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2007, 11:47:58 am »
Not trying to rain on your parade, but this doesn't sound weatherproof at all.

You don't really have anything that would protect it from moisture.  Sounds like you have some Houston like weather, and I would be really concerned about that tv and computer in the long run.  The control panel shouldn't be a big concern as the voltage going through there is miniscule, and you have no trackball.

One thing I was thinking that might save you some trouble in the future is a dehumidifier.  Replace that peg board with some ply and add some fans at the top and bottom for circulation.  Then put a dehumidifier in the cab.  I would be concerned about that computer power supply and the tv building of condensation.  Also you will have residue left over from the heat.  You might even have an intake port being the dehumidifier so it is constantly pumping dry air in there.  Then have some fans at the top to suck out the hot air.

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Re: The Greatest Woody ever..... Maybe..... and it's weatherproof
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2007, 12:04:02 pm »
My main concern with this was to use materials that would hold up, such as using the pine instead of mdf.  I was originally going to do the whole unit with the same plywood on the back, but I wound up using that wood to cut the second revision of the control panel.  I'm not so certain about the dehumidifier, I think it may cause more static buildup in the long run, and where it's at, it might not even do any good.  Another thing is that this will only be sitting outside until my wife and I can find a house that we want to buy, which hopefully will be very soon.  I would still wager that this cab sitting where it's at could outlast (almost) any of the other cabs I have seen if they were put in the same conditions.

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Re: The Greatest Woody ever..... Maybe..... and it's weatherproof
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2007, 02:19:54 pm »
First thing, where is the back of the cab going to be facing?  If it is against one of the screened walls then you have an issue with rain.  All it would take is a strong rainstorm blowing through and you'll have water inside the cab.  Turn on the cab in that condition and you could fry everything.  Remember that CRTs use a very high voltage you could do some serious damage.  I agree with Green Giant, water and electronics don't mix.

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Re: The Greatest Woody ever..... Maybe..... and it's weatherproof
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2007, 03:28:18 pm »
Looks and sounds to me like you successfully made a cab that meets your needs.... Mostly.   :applaud:  The only thing I would be worried about is (like others have said) the electronics, specifically the computer and monitor.  HOWEVER, even those are probably fairly safe as long as it stays out of direct rainfall or heavy mist.  People frequently underestimate the advantages of a well ventilated structure.  Any moisture that gets into this cab will dry out.  As long as you don't mind replacing your TV or some/all of your computer then I wouldn't worry about the moisture, it will take plenty of time for it to get destroyed by humidity alone, and you even mentioned that the "outdoor" nature of the cab influenced your TV decision so I imagine it wouldn't be the end of the world if you have to replace it.

Enjoy your new cab, and welcome to the hobby.
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Re: The Greatest Woody ever..... Maybe..... and it's weatherproof
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2007, 05:47:02 pm »
    I appreciate the input.  I will tell you that during hurricane Katrina, the spot this machine is sitting in didn't get wet.  Considering those were some of the highest winds / rain that we've gotten in roughly 10 years I'm not too worried about it being rained on.  Even if I was, I keep several large tarps lying around just in case.  I should mention that I put this whole cab together for around $700, which I think is pretty good considering what I've seen other cabs cost, and what this one has to offer.  Before I built this cab, there was a 19" tv on that porch for roughly 4-5 years, that worked great.  I gave it to a friend and it would still be working had he not dropped it and busted the tube.   I do have a background in electronics and computers, and I fully understand what the humidity here can do to electronics, frankly I'm not that worried about it.  I have seen laptops get fully submersed and work great just as soon as they dry out.  NOTE: I have no plans of fully submersing the tv or pc.  I had looked at putting some fans in the cab to keep it cool along with filters to help keep the dust down.  I opted against this because I currently have a pc that has 10 or so fans in it and I can hear it in the other room with all of them turned down to low.  Anyway, once again I appreciate the ideas, and might I say you guys all have some damn fine projects of your own.......

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Re: The Greatest Woody ever..... Maybe..... and it's weatherproof
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2007, 06:42:55 pm »
so you decided against T-molding and a coin door?

How does it play? It looks like player 1 and player 2's joysticks are angled towards the screen a bit.

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Re: The Greatest Woody ever..... Maybe..... and it's weatherproof
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2007, 08:04:49 pm »
     It plays great, and yes the controls are angled at the screen.  After building the original panel we expanded on the idea of comfort and ergonomics.  I didn't use a coin door because I didn't want to, it's really just that simple.  I personally like the doors myself because of the easy access to the pc and the guts of the thing.  I also don't like t-molding myself, and putting that onto 5-ply wood, would be a nightmare.  Hope that helps to clarify, If anybody needs me I'll be killing zombies.......