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Author Topic: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family  (Read 17138 times)

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2007, 02:18:34 pm »

Don't steroid tests take a couple weeks?

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2007, 02:19:52 pm »
The word now is that Chris strangled his wife and suffocated his boy and then he hung him shelf in his weight room. a sad day indeed.

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Might want to alter the thread title a bit.
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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2007, 02:39:57 pm »
Of course the worst "bad taste" moment in wrestling was in WCW when sting "fell" from the rafters and busted thru the ring (it was a dummy). They did this right after Owen Wilson DID fall to his death in the WWF. People in the audience were crying and screaming. That was pathetic.

Erm?  I don't remember that and Owen Wilson is an actor.  Owen Hart is the guy who fell from the rafters.

Sting had been using that rope based entrance for a long time but I certainly don't remember anyone anywhere in the wrestling industry mocking Owen Hart's death, especially given that one of WCW's highest paid stars was Owen's brother.

Yeah, Owen Hart. I tried looking the sting thing up and during the search I realized that stunt happened well before Owen's death. it was back when sting did his "point at Hogan" thing for months. Of course, the Owen coming down from the rafters was a copy of the sting entrance.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2007, 02:41:32 pm »

Did you actually find any reference to it?  I don't remember it at all and everything that has ever happened in wrestling is well documented on the web.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2007, 02:45:07 pm »

Did you actually find any reference to it?  I don't remember it at all and everything that has ever happened in wrestling is well documented on the web.

I couldn't, but trust me, it happened. It was just a loaded dummy, so maybe it didn't have the impact on the masses as I thought it did. I was pretty pissed after it happened. I'll try looking again.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #45 on: June 26, 2007, 02:46:32 pm »

It's hard to remember stuff from that era of WCW.  It's like my long term memory is smarter than I am.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #46 on: June 26, 2007, 02:47:25 pm »
Found it.
# A Sting dummy comes plummetting from the ceiling, through the canvas again. Randy Anderson stares for a long time into the hole in the canvas. I can see what's coming here.
# Hogan prattles on calling Sting a "dummy" and says Sting is in hiding.
# Hogan has the nWo pull the "dummy" out of the hole so he can beat it some more and they hang it over the ropes.
# Hogan pulls the mask off the "dummy" and, SURPRISE, it's Sting. Way too telegraphed.
# Sting starts cleaning house and gives Hall a Scorpion Death Drop. Hogan is outside the ring wondering what to do as we fade to black.
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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #47 on: June 26, 2007, 02:51:46 pm »

Ah... not quite the same as faking someone actually falling, but I could see how fuzzy recollection would make it seem that way.

I might actually have that Nitro on VHS.  I'll see if I do so we can all experience the idiocy.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #48 on: June 26, 2007, 03:41:02 pm »
...all the bad acting...all the bad story lines...all the bad characters...

...just about EVERYTHING TO DO WITH WRESTLING....turned me off of wrestling.  I stopped watching when I was about 10...or 11 maybe.

Though I admit i've been to a couple of live events (worked for a paper...free tickets!) and they were entertaining.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #49 on: June 26, 2007, 03:44:33 pm »
Though I admit i've been to a couple of live events (worked for a paper...free tickets!) and they were entertaining.

Not WCW Nitro near the end. I got free tix to a Live Nitro and it was crap. I went to a WWF even back when I was a wee lad (Brutus Beefcake Vs. Honkey Tonk Man was the main event). That was fun as all getout...of course I was a kid.

Nowadays, they do way too much talking and "acting". That was one of the reasons I liked Chris Benoit. He was a very entertaining wrestler and he let his wrestling do the talking.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #50 on: June 26, 2007, 04:10:45 pm »
Modern day wrestling is soap opera for men.    :timebomb:

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #51 on: June 26, 2007, 04:19:38 pm »
Modern day wrestling is soap opera for men.    :timebomb:

It absolutely is.  I agree.

The details are out and they are creepy.  I'm not sure I agree with the DA's assessments that steroids would cause this... this is something else.  Certailly steroids can mess with someone's head but this isn't consistent with things we've seen from completely roided out people in the past.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #52 on: June 26, 2007, 05:36:38 pm »
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ATLANTA (AP) - Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife, suffocated his 7-year- old son and placed a Bible next to their bodies before hanging himself by the pulley of a weightlifting machine, authorities said Tuesday.

Investigators also found prescription anabolic steroids in the house, Lt. Tommy Pope of the Fayette County Sheriff's Department. He would not comment on Benoit's state of mind or possible motive.

Autopsies showed all three died of asphyxiation, Pope said.

Benoit's wife, Nancy, was killed Friday in an upstairs family room, her feet and wrists were bound and there was blood under her head, indicating a possible struggle, Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said.

The son, Daniel, was likely killed late Saturday or early Sunday, the body found in his bed, Ballard said.

Benoit apparently killed himself several hours and as long as a day later, Ballard said. His body was found in a downstairs weight room, his body found hanging from the pulley of a piece of exercise equipment.

The prosecutor said he found it "bizarre" that the WWE wrestling star spread out the killings over a long weekend and appeared to remain in the house for up to a day with the bodies.

"I'm baffled about why anybody would kill a 7-year-old," Ballard said. "I don't think we'll ever be able wrap our head around that."

Earlier, a law enforcement official speaking on a condition of anonymity said Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son.


What kind of scumbag would smother his 7 year old son?   I can understand (but not agree) with offing the wife...I can see how an adult woman could make you go THAT crazy (but again,  I don't agree!)...but a kid?  Come on.   The guy,  evidently,  turned out to be a real piece of work.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #53 on: June 26, 2007, 06:23:35 pm »
Frizzle - be careful about casting stones.  I don't mean to anger anyone here, he's got a an opinion and can have it...but it's real easy to cast stones and forget we ourselves live in glass houses occasionally.  I guess what I'm saying is this thread isn't the place for it.

I just refuse to believe the same man I admired and respected was mentally here with us this past weekend.  They prove it wasn't drugs or insanity, then I'll believe and deal with it.  But something really really went wrong in his head, I believe. 

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #54 on: June 26, 2007, 06:31:54 pm »

RTS:  Duh.  Take off your fan hat and look at him as a man.   I fully agree with Frizzle, that's the type of thing where you consider Benoit as having done the right thing in regard to his own life.  It was only just.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #55 on: June 26, 2007, 07:13:47 pm »
RTS:  I will keep my opinions of the guy out of this thread... just keep in mind that watching someone on TV doesn't mean you know him.  For all you know he could have been beating his wife and molesting his kid for years (I AM NOT SAYING HE WAS....JUST MAKING A POINT!).   

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #56 on: June 26, 2007, 07:48:12 pm »

For the record, the Police did say they had never been called to their home in the past.  She did get that restraining order in 2003, though, which is a bit odd to get one without a single domestic police visit.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #57 on: June 26, 2007, 09:44:58 pm »
Frizzle - be careful about casting stones.  I don't mean to anger anyone here, he's got a an opinion and can have it...but it's real easy to cast stones and forget we ourselves live in glass houses occasionally.  I guess what I'm saying is this thread isn't the place for it.

I just refuse to believe the same man I admired and respected was mentally here with us this past weekend.  They prove it wasn't drugs or insanity, then I'll believe and deal with it.  But something really really went wrong in his head, I believe. 

Not to belittle people with mental illness... but its become a catch all for excuses in this society and its just idiotic.

Did the man kill his wife?
Did the man kill his 7 YEAR OLD SON???

He's a scumbag and can rot in hell... end of story.

Consider that me officially casting stones and Chris Benoit's window.
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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #58 on: June 26, 2007, 10:14:27 pm »
Ok, you know what, I will take my fan hat off....regarding Chris and some of you as well.

You all are right - he is a scumbag for murdering his son.  I know nothing by watching him everyday on TV.  We should all just go and  :censored: on his gravesite.  But I wonder: if it were someone you idolized who did these things, would you be willing to say the same - or would you defend their memory?

I just hope and pray that when you come falling down from your lofty perches there isn't someone to step on you on the way down.  I will stick by my guns.  You throw stones, they WILL come back to knock your head off.  You may very well get back everything your throw. 

Personally I am sick and tired of being made to feel that I cannot express myself on these boards.  The only people that seem to matter right now are those ruling the boards right now: Chad, Frizzle, etc.

I was once told on here that if I could not take the heat stay out of the kitchen.  I would say that to some of you tonight as well.  You all are great at dishing it out but you sure as heck are awful at taking someone standing against your opinions.

You know what...go ahead and tell Saint to ban me after this rant, I really don't give a crap.   I'm really quite done with this place for a while anyway.  I have too many personal problems going on right now to allow someone's typed response to get my blood boiling like this.





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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #59 on: June 26, 2007, 10:24:01 pm »
No one said you couldn't express yourself.  People are just saying that you seem to be giving a man who killed two members of his family too much credit.

And ya know what... for me personally... if I ever did that, I'd hope the fall from "my perch" would bust ---my bottom---.  That's a horrible, unforgivable thing that he did.  Doesn't matter if it was him, you, or me... it's a scumbag move.  He deserves no sympathy and no benefit of the doubt.

if he truly had a mental break, I feel slightly bad for him.  If it lead him to take his own life, I would feel bad.  I would feel for him, his family, his friends, and his fans.  Cross the line to murdering innocent people (no matter how much the wife may have pissed him off), and he's just an ass, and deserves to rot.  We're not on a "lofty perch" unless you consider NOT MURDERING PEOPLE a lofty goal.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #60 on: June 26, 2007, 10:28:59 pm »
You know what...go ahead and tell Saint to ban me after this rant, I really don't give a crap.   I'm really quite done with this place for a while anyway.  I have too many personal problems going on right now to allow someone's typed response to get my blood boiling like this.


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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #61 on: June 26, 2007, 11:27:22 pm »
Frizzle - be careful about casting stones.  I don't mean to anger anyone here, he's got a an opinion and can have it...but it's real easy to cast stones and forget we ourselves live in glass houses occasionally.  I guess what I'm saying is this thread isn't the place for it.

I just refuse to believe the same man I admired and respected was mentally here with us this past weekend.  They prove it wasn't drugs or insanity, then I'll believe and deal with it.  But something really really went wrong in his head, I believe. 
I may live in a glass house, but that pane marked "murder your own children" is made of 20" thick steel-reinforced plexiglass and behind a brick wall, so I feel pretty comfortable throwing a whole pile of stones in this case.

As was said before, I can almost understand (certainly not condone) him killing his wife in a fit of anger-I can imagine the "family emergency" was some sort of knock-down, drag-out uber fight that ultimately involved her leaving him and taking their son. Add in a touch of steroid abuse and I think we can all see how it could happen. It was a crime of passion and a horrible tragedy. But killing his son a day later? By suffocating him in his sleep? Absofuckinglutely unforgivable and inexcusable. I haven't heard the reason yet that would ever change my view on that.
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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #62 on: June 27, 2007, 03:21:02 am »
Suffocation is far less suspicious than a lot of other things. Severe post-natal depression has occasionally led to cases where a parent has smothered a child because "they just wouldn't stop crying". I don't know the particulars of roid rage, but if it presumably combines hyper-aggression with hyper-irritability, I can see how someone irrational might start off with tying/pinning people down just to get them to "sit down and shut up while I'm talkin' to you!", but end up killing them instead because "they just wouldn't shut up".  :'(

Make no mistake, this is a horrible thing to happen, but the bible thing does tend to suggest he knew he had done wrong but he didn't have the courage to come forward and face the consequences of his actions.  :dunno

And RTS - I've read ingredient lists on soup packets that were more offensive then your supposed "rant". Bury them backwards sure, salt the Earth and rescind their awards and all. But getting righteous over someone's death is the start of a very bad slippery slope.   :timebomb:
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« Reply #63 on: June 27, 2007, 03:40:39 am »
I guess I'll be eating crow now - but this is just getting worse.  I do think I need to crawl into a cave, perhaps break these rose-colored glasses of mine permanently, and then come back to society when I can see clearly.  Some days I think I'm just the worst idiot walking the face of the planet.  I'm really embarrased to know this is who I held up as a "hero" (and please don't post that I'm being too hard on myself - TRUTH is truth).  It's just so damn hard to believe, but this guy was really really sick and twisted apparently.

Long post, sorry - boldface is added by me, of course.  I just saw this on the net.  I said that once I saw it for myself I'd believe it....guess I got called on that one.  Furthermore, the WWE is sure as hell covering it's behind at the expense of all three, denying that steroids could have possibly been involved.  They too, are probably right - but I still think it was despicable to make such a comment without a single toxicology report in yet.

From AP / Comcast:

Benoit Strangled Wife, Smothered Son
By GREG BLUESTEIN, Associated Press Writer
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FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. - Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife, suffocated his 7-year-old son and placed a Bible next to their bodies before hanging himself with a weight-machine pulley, authorities said Tuesday.

Investigators found anabolic steroids in the house and want to know whether the muscle man nicknamed "The Canadian Crippler" was unhinged by the bodybuilding drugs, which can cause paranoia, depression and explosive outbursts known as "roid rage."

Authorities offered no motive for the killings, which were spread out over a weekend, and would not discuss Benoit's state of mind. No suicide note was found.

"In a community like this it's bizarre to have a murder-suicide, especially involving the death of a 7-year-old," District Attorney Scott Ballard said. "I don't think we'll ever be able to wrap our minds around this."

The Montreal-born Benoit was one of the stars of the WWE wrestling circuit and was known for his wholesome family-man image. His wife, Nancy, was a wrestling stage manager who worked under the name "Woman." They married in 2000.

When he won the world heavyweight championship in 2004, Benoit (pronounced ben-WAH) hoisted the belt over his head and invited his wife and child into the ring to celebrate. Asked by the Calgary Sun that year to name his worst vice: Benoit replied: "Quality time with my family is a big vice. It's something I'll fight for and crave."

Despite those appearances, Nancy Benoit had filed for a divorce in 2003, saying the couple's three-year marriage was irrevocably broken and alleging "cruel treatment." She later dropped the complaint, as well as a request for a restraining order in which she charged that the 5-foot-10, 220-pound Benoit had threatened her and had broken furniture in their home.


In the divorce filing, she said Benoit made more than $500,000 a year as a professional wrestler and asked for permanent custody of Daniel and child support. In response, Benoit sought joint custody.

The bodies were found Monday afternoon in the house, off a gravel road in this suburb about 20 miles south of Atlanta.

Benoit's 43-year-old wife was killed Friday in an upstairs family room, her feet and wrists were bound and there was blood under her head, indicating a possible struggle, Ballard said. Daniel was probably killed late Saturday or early Sunday, the body found in his bed, the district attorney said.

Benoit, 40, apparently hanged himself several hours and as long as a day later, Ballard said. His body was found in a downstairs weight room, his body found hanging from the pulley of a piece of exercise equipment.

A closed Bible was placed next to the bodies of the wife and son, authorities said.

The prosecutor said he found it "bizarre" that the wrestler spread out the killings over a weekend and appeared to remain in the house for up to a day with the bodies.

Toxicology test results may not be available for weeks or even months, Ballard said. As for whether steroids played a role in the crime, he said: "We don't know yet. That's one of the things we'll be looking at."

Steroids have been linked to the deaths of several professional wrestlers in recent years. Eddie Guerrero, one of Benoit's best friends, died in 2005 from heart failure linked to long-term steroid use.

The father of Curt "Mr. Perfect" Hennig blamed steroids and painkillers for Hennig's drug overdose death in 2003. Davey Boy Smith, the "British Bulldog," died in 2002 from heart failure that a coroner said was probably caused by steroids.

The WWE, based in Stamford, Conn., issued a statement Tuesday evening saying steroids "were not and could not be related to the cause of death."

"The physical findings announced by authorities indicate deliberation, not rage," the company said, adding that Benoit tested negative April 10, the last time he was tested for drugs.


Benoit was a quiet, roughhewn figure amid the glitz and bluster of pro wrestling. He performed under his real name, eschewed scripted personas and didn't bother to fix a gap where he had lost one of his front teeth. (According to the WWE Web site, he lost the tooth while roughhousing with his pet Rottweiler.)

His signature move was the "Crippler Crossface," in which he would lock his hands around an opponent's face and stretch his neck.

"You always rooted for him, because he was a good guy and he overcame the odds," said Dave Meltzer, editor of the Wrestling Observer, a weekly news letter. "It's like if you watched `Rocky,' and in the end it comes out that Rocky killed his wife and his son."

Benoit met his wife in the 1990s when she was married to rival wrestler Kevin Sullivan. As part of the scripted rivalry, Benoit and Nancy were supposed to act as if they were having an affair. A real romance blossomed, and she left Sullivan for Benoit.

Neighbors said the Benoits led a low-key lifestyle.

"We would see Chris walking in his yard from time to time. He wasn't rude, but he wasn't really outwardly warm," said Alaina Jones, who lives across the street.

Jimmy Baswell, who was Benoit's driver for more than five years, placed a white wreath at their gate. "They always seemed like they were the happiest people," he said.

World Wrestling Entertainment said on its Web site that it asked authorities to check on Benoit and his family after being alerted by friends who had received "several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning."

"He was like a family member to me, and everyone in my family is taking it real hard," said fellow Canadian Bret Hart, a five-time champion.

The WWE canceled its live "Monday Night RAW" card in Corpus Christi, Texas, after the bodies were discovered.

Monday's show was supposed to be a memorial service for WWE owner Vince McMahon. In a storyline concocted by the WWE, McMahon was supposedly "assassinated" in a limousine explosion two weeks earlier. McMahon appeared at the beginning of Monday's telecast and acknowledged the bombing was made up.

The McMahon storyline has been dropped.

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Associated Press writers Debbie Newby and Jason Bronis contributed to this report.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #64 on: June 27, 2007, 08:47:32 am »

There are more details on the son now... reports say the Benoits were hiding that the boy had fragile X syndrome and other reports say they had found old injection scars on his arm.  Theories are that they had given him HGH in the past to try and help him over his disabilities.  No reports yet that that had anything to do with his death but there is a theory that the wife was an act of rage and/or passion but the son was to prevent him from having to be raised by strangers, having had his parents die violently, and with a spiraling disability the strangers very likely would never understand.

All rationalization, of course, but it's the first theory that makes any sort of sense.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #65 on: June 27, 2007, 09:07:04 am »

There are more details on the son now... reports say the Benoits were hiding that the boy had fragile X syndrome and other reports say they had found old injection scars on his arm.  Theories are that they had given him HGH in the past to try and help him over his disabilities.  No reports yet that that had anything to do with his death but there is a theory that the wife was an act of rage and/or passion but the son was to prevent him from having to be raised by strangers, having had his parents die violently, and with a spiraling disability the strangers very likely would never understand.

All rationalization, of course, but it's the first theory that makes any sort of sense.

If that was the case with his son, then there would likely have been a suicide note.

Odds are that the investigation will eventually uncover some clues, maybe from computer records in the house or something.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #66 on: June 27, 2007, 09:12:22 am »

There wouldn't be a note if he didn't want anyone to know about the boy's condition.  And he did send all those text messages to coworkers giving out his physical address for no specified reason and informing one of them that the patio doors were unlocked and the dogs had been fed.

I'm betting the true motives will never really be understood.  So many various drugs over the years can really eff with someone's mind, especially a full out balls to the wall intensity person like Benoit.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #67 on: June 27, 2007, 10:05:16 am »
I would just like to say as a fan I admired and enjoyed Chris' wrestling. As a father I am deeply disturbed that any man would take the life of his own child. The true facts about this case and the mental condition of Chris many never be known. It is easy to down play the good one has done in the past when faced with such horrible acts. I remember the good Chris was and will mourn those lives he has taken. I can only feel a deep sadness for Nancy and Daniel as well as Chris's other two children. I also feel very sad for all the fans who worshiped people like Chris, what do we do when our heroes fail us?

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #68 on: June 27, 2007, 10:18:36 am »

Don't confuse entertainment with good.  He was well paid to do something he enjoyed.  That's not the same as something to be admired as "good work".

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #69 on: June 27, 2007, 12:35:17 pm »

Here's another thought... untreated concussions.  Dude did a LOT of things with his head that were ill advised... especially that diving head butt and the way he used to take chair shots to the back of the head.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #70 on: June 28, 2007, 12:06:49 am »
I just heard a report on CNN that police have confirmed that they found TRACK MARKS and sighs of RECENT INJECTIONS on the son.  It is speculated that he was injecting human growth hormones and/or steroids in to the kid!  Evidently the kid is small for his age and ole Chris wasn't about to have any of that...

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« Reply #71 on: June 28, 2007, 01:13:27 am »
I just heard a report on CNN that police have confirmed that they found TRACK MARKS and sighs of RECENT INJECTIONS on the son. 

Chad mentioned this a few posts up.  More info here:

Report: Benoit’s Son Had Fragile X Syndrome
Reported by Brian Cantor on June 26th, 2007

Canadian female Pam Winthrope told News 1130 in Canada that Chris Benoit’s son had a genetic condition called Fragile X syndrome.

According to WebMD, “Fragile X Syndrome is a defect of the X chromosome which causes mild mental retardation. The disorder occurs more frequently and severely among males than females. This condition is the leading known familial cause of mental retardation in the United States. Language delays, behavioral problems, autism or autistic-like behavior (including poor eye contact and hand-flapping), enlarged external genitalia (macroorchidism), large or prominent ears, hyperactivity, delayed motor development and/or poor sensory skills are among the wide range of symptoms associated with this disorder.”

Winthrope, whose son also suffers from the condition, told the Canadian news outlet that her husband reached out to Benoit five years ago in an attempt to increase awareness about Fragile X.

She told News 1130, “We talked to him because I was trying to set up a support group in BC and in Canada, we only have a couple of them. My husband was struggling when we got diagnosed with our son, and Chris was struggling with his. They talked for a few minutes and then he said he didn’t want to be a public face for Fragile X, he just wanted to keep it really, really quiet.”

Winthrope noted that the lack of support for those affected by the disorder can tear families apart. Nonetheless, “she couldn’t believe the news that Benoit had taken his life along with his wife and 7-year-old son,” wrote News 1130.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #72 on: June 28, 2007, 09:16:13 am »

It is also possible they are the result of doctor ordered injections... don't know if they do it anymore but I do know in the past kids suspected to be dwarfs were given HGH and there are a couple of other conditions they did that with too.  That doesn't rule out the possibility Benoit injected the kid on his own but the marks alone don't prove that.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #73 on: June 28, 2007, 09:23:25 am »
If the guy was having problems at home that warranted this incident, why didn't he just say something. They could have written him an injury storyline and he could've went home for a few months.

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #74 on: June 28, 2007, 09:53:58 am »

He just was home for a few months.  It's not an industry where you can keep doing that, especially at the tail end of your career, when the money making clock is ticking loudly.  He had only been back in the loop for a short while.

I've been doing a little reading on the toll Fragile X takes on the family... it's really, really, really hard on them.  I think this is where the trigger lies more than anything else.  That's what they had been fighting about, the boy and his care, cost related to potentially putting him in a home for these kids, just general stress over it.  I'm seeing a really really high divorce rate for Fragile X parents and a high abandonment rate for Fragile X kids.  This also wouldn't be the first murder-suicide, by a long shot, of a desperate Fragile X family.  Last year a women in England jumped off a bridge with her 12 year old Fragile X son.

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« Reply #75 on: June 28, 2007, 09:58:25 am »
I have done a little research into it to. Maybe some kind of public awareness about this can have a positive effect on other families dealing with this.

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« Reply #76 on: June 28, 2007, 10:08:55 am »

Public awareness would really, really, really help.  WWE is going to distance itself as far as possible, though, and they are the ones who would have to lead the awareness efforts.  Can't even really blame the WWE for doing that, either, since their primary responsibility as a publicly traded company is to protect stock value.  That's just the law.

Having thought this through with some of the info I have now after doing this reading... I think I have a couple basic theories.  I suspect he may have thought the boy was better off passing now before his condition deteriorated too far and had to live a long life of suffering.  Like putting a dog to sleep.  He comes to this conclusion after being home for several months and after several months of hard fighting with the wife over the yearly cost of hundreds of thousands to care for him or put him in a home... with no end in sight, after having busted ass literally for decades to build a retirement.  He figures he's going to have to tie up the wife to keep her away while he does it to ensure the boy passes peacefully.  When he goes to tie up the wife, something goes wrong, she gets hurt.  Now there's no turning back, the wife ends up dead, he does what he intended with the boy.  It all worked out wrong, it was different in his head, and now he's a double murderer, of his family no less.  He has to take his own life now, the future is toast and frankly he deserves it.

Can't say any of that is justified, rational, or sane, but at least it gives potential answers to a couple of the "why" questions.  I'm sure the drug use over the years was a major factor in his state of mind through the whole thing as well.

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« Reply #77 on: June 28, 2007, 10:19:01 am »

 When he goes to tie up the wife, something goes wrong, she gets hurt.  Now there's no turning back, the wife ends up dead, he does what he intended with the boy.  It all worked out wrong, it was different in his head, and now he's a double murderer, of his family no less.  He has to take his own life now, the future is toast and frankly he deserves it.


So if he wouldn't have accidently killed his wife and succesfully killed his kid, everything would have been ok?  His future wouldn't have been toast if he just killed his kid, and not his wife??  WTF??

I think you're completely reaching on the whole thing considering you don't know the Benoits and weren't in their house for the last few moths.

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« Reply #78 on: June 28, 2007, 10:22:54 am »

Hey, I never said it was a good plan.  Maybe he planned to pin the boy's death on the wife.

If you think I'm reaching so hard, do you have a better theory? 

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Re: R.I.P. Rabid Wolverine & Family
« Reply #79 on: June 28, 2007, 10:24:46 am »
With all the "my wife's sick and throwing up ...so is my kid" phone calls etc,  sounds to me like he was plotting a way to get away with this ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.  Once he determined he was screwed,  he took the cowards way out and offed himself.
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