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Author Topic: Radeon 9000 128 (Sapphire Atlantis branded) and DVI dongle  (Read 1734 times)

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Can anyone share an experience with this thing

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041901&p_id=2398&seq=1&format=2&style=

and a Sapphire branded ATI Radeon 9000 128 MB Atlantis?

Recently came into a 27 inch Sanyo TV (model DS27930) for free.  TV has component inputs.  I already have a "de-cased" 19 inch CRT VGA computer monitor installed in my cab and running on the ATI mentioned above.  Since the TV was free, I have been grappling with the "should I or shouldn't I" of converting to the TV for the larger experience.  I have been waffling on whether I want to lose the quality of Windows to get the bigger screen area.  To this point, I have been lazy and used MAME32.  I know that will need to go bye-bye due to text readability issues.  I have fiddled with MAMEWAH and it has worked but I was never really happy with the skins I made up with so I just stuck with MAME32.   :blah:  :blah:

Moving on, now I have this TV that just kinda landed in my lap.  It does appear to fit in my cab without modification and I have a video card that has DVI out but is not on the supported card list at the site listed above.  Cash is kinda tight so looking for input before I spend anything (but at the price listed, I am thinking of just buying the damned thing).

Any comment?

Thanks,
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Re: Radeon 9000 128 (Sapphire Atlantis branded) and DVI dongle
« Reply #1 on: May 16, 2007, 06:35:46 pm »
For the price give it a go.   It is impossible to find a list of the many variations of ATI using cards that will work with the dongle.  If it does work please tell us so we will all know.

 

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Re: Radeon 9000 128 (Sapphire Atlantis branded) and DVI dongle
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2007, 06:36:38 pm »
I'm afraid I can't help you with your DVI out question, but I just wanted to add that it is definitely possible to use MAME32 on a TV (I did it for years over an S-Video connection).  You can increase the font a bit or bold it for better readability.  It's not as sharp as a PC CRT of course, but definitely doable with some configuring. 

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Re: Radeon 9000 128 (Sapphire Atlantis branded) and DVI dongle
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2007, 07:36:18 pm »
I could be wrong here but I don't think that that particular Radeon card will work with that dongle to component in on your tv. I have the Radeon (sapphire) 64Mb version and after fighting with it trying to get it to work I read somewhere that it wasn't compatible. The S-video works though if you don't mind the decreased quality.
I'll do a quick search and see if I can find the site I saw it  on.

edit:
Found it straight from the ATI website (Question 2)
http://ati.amd.com/products/hdtvadapter/faq.html
There they list all the compatible cards and which adapter they'work with. There's no mention of the 9000 anywhere and I think it was after reading that that I gave up on trying with mine. Not sure if anyone else got theirs working, but I have had the idea of trying it out again using the new soft 15khz and quick res programs out.
« Last Edit: May 16, 2007, 07:43:55 pm by dynamike »

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Re: Radeon 9000 128 (Sapphire Atlantis branded) and DVI dongle
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2007, 11:03:51 pm »
Carry on, I started a new thread, instead.

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Re: Radeon 9000 128 (Sapphire Atlantis branded) and DVI dongle
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2007, 09:56:13 am »
I could be wrong here but I don't think that that particular Radeon card will work with that dongle to component in on your tv. I have the Radeon (sapphire) 64Mb version and after fighting with it trying to get it to work I read somewhere that it wasn't compatible. The S-video works though if you don't mind the decreased quality.

Thanks for the replies, folks.  As it happens, my particular card does NOT have svideo out but rather composite out.  I know that will never meet my expectations so it looks like I need to keep on searching for a deal on a compatible card that will allow the component video to work.  I am still not 100% sold on doing this TV conversion anyway.  Would like to do some testing before commiting but only if it costs little or nothing to do it.

Thanks again,
Bumble

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Re: Radeon 9000 128 (Sapphire Atlantis branded) and DVI dongle
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2007, 10:05:55 am »

Can anyone share an experience with this thing

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041901&p_id=2398&seq=1&format=2&style=

and a Sapphire branded ATI Radeon 9000 128 MB Atlantis?

Recently came into a 27 inch Sanyo TV (model DS27930) for free.  TV has component inputs.  I already have a "de-cased" 19 inch CRT VGA computer monitor installed in my cab and running on the ATI mentioned above.  Since the TV was free, I have been grappling with the "should I or shouldn't I" of converting to the TV for the larger experience.  I have been waffling on whether I want to lose the quality of Windows to get the bigger screen area.  To this point, I have been lazy and used MAME32.  I know that will need to go bye-bye due to text readability issues.  I have fiddled with MAMEWAH and it has worked but I was never really happy with the skins I made up with so I just stuck with MAME32.   :blah:  :blah:

Moving on, now I have this TV that just kinda landed in my lap.  It does appear to fit in my cab without modification and I have a video card that has DVI out but is not on the supported card list at the site listed above.  Cash is kinda tight so looking for input before I spend anything (but at the price listed, I am thinking of just buying the damned thing).

Any comment?

Thanks,
Bumble

It lists right on that linked page what cards work with the dongle. You could pick any of them up for less than $100 if you look around.

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Re: Radeon 9000 128 (Sapphire Atlantis branded) and DVI dongle
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2007, 05:21:33 pm »
It lists right on that linked page what cards work with the dongle. You could pick any of them up for less than $100 if you look around.

Yeah, I saw that and even mentioned it in my original post.  I guess I was just hoping that the vendor had incomplete or incorrect information.  Looks like dynamike has a 64MB version of the same card that he tried and failed with.  That's what I was looking for.  Confirmation.

On the matter of finding a card that will work with the dongle, I agree the cards are plentiful and I know I can find one (fairly cheap, even -- saw one go for $28 plus shipping on ebay 20 minutes ago).  But I am so strapped for cash now that anything more than the cost of the dongle, cables and shipping is more than I can justify for a project that I am not even sure I want to do.  As I said, not even sure if I want to lose the resolution I have with the PC monitor.  For now, I am think I am going to trudge on with the 19 inch VGA that has served me well so far.

I'm afraid I can't help you with your DVI out question, but I just wanted to add that it is definitely possible to use MAME32 on a TV (I did it for years over an S-Video connection).  You can increase the font a bit or bold it for better readability.  It's not as sharp as a PC CRT of course, but definitely doable with some configuring. 

Thanks for that.  I was thinking if I boosted font size, I might get away with it but I wasn't holding my breath.

Thanks for all the replies...

Bumble

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Re: Radeon 9000 128 (Sapphire Atlantis branded) and DVI dongle
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2007, 10:25:05 pm »
Yeah, stick with a PC monitor. Way ---smurfin--- easier and cheaper. Wait till you got the dough to be screwin around, then putter.

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Re: Radeon 9000 128 (Sapphire Atlantis branded) and DVI dongle
« Reply #9 on: May 19, 2007, 02:02:01 pm »
why not buy a VGA to scart lead and then use Advancemame to set it 15khz.