Author Topic: Any byoac fantasy football this year? (Read 5819 times)

ChadTower · « **Reply #40 on:** July 14, 2006, 03:36:17 pm »

I like my couch and will not change it.

DrewKaree · « **Reply #41 on:** July 14, 2006, 09:35:55 pm »

I like my change and I will not couch it.

tommy · « **Reply #42 on:** July 15, 2006, 10:21:03 am »

To me it makes guys who like to talk maybe not talk so much.. it's easy to talk when you have nothing to lose.

I did forget about you guys not wanting to bet last year, thats fine then.

ChadTower · « **Reply #43 on:** July 15, 2006, 08:42:41 pm »

$20 on fantasy football wouldn't keep me quiet at all.

tommy · « **Reply #44 on:** July 16, 2006, 07:09:31 am »

Who said anything about that amount?

dweebs0r · « **Reply #45 on:** July 20, 2006, 08:17:19 pm »

What about 30 bucks a person x 12 teams.

1st place - 200
2nd place - 100
3rd place - 60

It would be a small amount to lose and still potentially a nice prize.

-D

ChadTower · « **Reply #46 on:** July 20, 2006, 10:52:08 pm »

DrewKaree · « **Reply #47 on:** July 20, 2006, 11:04:47 pm »

It's an autodraft league. That means you're stuck with whatever yahoo gives you based on the rank you give each player, and where that player sits when it comes around to your turn to draft. There's ABSOLUTELY NO WAY to know how your team is going to turn out.

To throw ANY money at this is foolishness, as it's a stone cold gamble that you won't be saddled with a dog of a team. This is JUST for fun, and any and all money wagered will be on the side between people who wish to do it. Take this as putting it down in stone. I will not be putting ANY money on this league. Chad will not be putting any money on this league (I think it's safe for me to speak for him on this). I only need to reiterate what was said before me:

tommy · « **Reply #48 on:** July 21, 2006, 09:46:19 pm »

Quote from: dweebs0r on July 20, 2006, 08:17:19 pm

What about 30 bucks a person x 12 teams.

1st place - 200
2nd place - 100
3rd place - 60

It would be a small amount to lose and still potentially a nice prize.

-D

I would but many guys don't like to bet as you've seen by some posts, if we all agreed i would but it will never happen.

I say make it atleast 5 bucks to make it more fun. Surely that's reasonable and not much risk.

ChadTower · « **Reply #49 on:** July 21, 2006, 10:13:34 pm »

I have no problem with people making a voluntary pool or side bets or anything. I have no issues with other people gambling. I won't participate, though. Bet away, doesn't bother me. I don't see why every participant has to be in a pool before it can happen.

dweebs0r · « **Reply #50 on:** July 21, 2006, 10:28:50 pm »

To hell with it. This is supposed to be a "just for fun" league and all of the drama over if we should or should not have a friendly wager is quickly taking the fun out of it for me.

Lets just keep on with the no money and drop the subject. I just figured people would be willing to gamble a few bucks just for laughs.

-D

P.S. If I sound a little petulant it's because I just got home from a 12 hour shift and I'm a bit tired.

ChadTower · « **Reply #51 on:** July 21, 2006, 10:29:47 pm »

Quote from: dweebs0r on July 21, 2006, 10:28:50 pm

P.S. If I sound a little petulant it's because I just got home from a 12 hour shift and I'm a bit tired.

tommy · « **Reply #52 on:** July 21, 2006, 10:30:44 pm »

Quote from: dweebs0r on July 21, 2006, 10:28:50 pm

I just figured people would be willing to gamble a few bucks just for laughs.

Me too. $:-\$

ChadTower · « **Reply #53 on:** July 21, 2006, 10:31:33 pm »

So go ahead. Why does it require 100% participation?

tommy · « **Reply #54 on:** July 21, 2006, 10:39:03 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 21, 2006, 10:31:33 pm

So go ahead. Why does it require 100% participation?

I would really like you to explain to me what the harm would be in betting 5 bucks in a byoac fantasy football contest? If you go through all the trouble of entering the game, watching the draft and setting up your roster... can you not afford $5.00?

Saying betting makes it less fun or whatever your excuse may be be won't cut the cheese.

I just can't believe you have never bet on something at some point in your life. IF it means that much to you to not bet i respect that but please give a detailed response that makes sence.

DrewKaree · « **Reply #55 on:** July 22, 2006, 01:45:05 am »

It might help to re-read dweebsor's post. Money is being talked about. Some aren't going to bet, be it whatever reason isn't understandable to others. It's now understandable to dweebsor that money is quickly taking the fun out of it. The reverse of that situation is to have those who want to bet happy, while those who don't want to bet aren't happy if they were to throw money at it.

You've also ignored Chad's very real point of there not needing to be 100% participation to achieve what you want to achieve.

It's getting silly that you're contradicting yourself tommy, but you're not even seeing it. "What's the harm?", then you go on to question something that's never been the issue (what he can or can't afford), as if the problem is the dollar amount. Then you tell him his excuse doesn't "cut the cheese", and further ask him to explain himself (well, if his explanation won't cut the cheese, what's the point?)

What's the harm? The harm is that you've already started to show some of the things that happen when betting amongst people. The harm is that you've continued to act as if the problem is the money rather than the personal decision not to gamble. Would you be badgering someone who doesn't want to smoke or drink alcohol to "just have one" as well?

tommy · « **Reply #56 on:** July 22, 2006, 02:32:39 am »

First of all i was wanting him to post, not you. Second, all he's ever said was he dosen't bet with no reason other then he dosen't bet.

If you really think my comment about him not being able to afford it was a real statement you're a fool.

How the hell can you compare an online game where guys compete and "normally" would bet to trying to convince a guy to smoke? That is not a fair comparison by any stretch.

If the guy dosen't want to bet thats fine as i've stated in another post, all i asked was for him to explain what the problem was with it. If he dosen't want to answer on why he won't bet thats up to him, he dosen't own me an explanation.

I also don't see how having a conversation on betting would be a problem and for you to use my question as an example of why betting can cause trouble.

DeLong20 · « **Reply #57 on:** July 22, 2006, 09:47:31 am »

Hilarity to ensure in 5...4...3...2...1...

ChadTower · « **Reply #58 on:** July 22, 2006, 10:30:18 am »

Quote from: DrewKaree on July 22, 2006, 01:45:05 am

What's the harm? The harm is that you've already started to show some of the things that happen when betting amongst people. The harm is that you've continued to act as if the problem is the money rather than the personal decision not to gamble.

That right there is a pretty good description of why I don't. I avoid involving money in a lot of social areas. It is simply not worth it. Whenever money is involved, in anything, it becomes the primary focus of most people. I join fantasy football to play fantasy football and focus on fantasy football. I could give a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- about money here and clearly it has become the most important element in this league already.

Quote from: tommy

How the hell can you compare an online game where guys compete and "normally" would bet to trying to convince a guy to smoke? That is not a fair comparison by any stretch.

It's actually very fair and very reasonable. It is not the case with me, my objections are simple preference, but gambling can become an addcction just as strong as alcohol or nicotine. Trying to goad someone into a bet, when they refuse, isn't all that different than goading someone you don't know into a drink.

I tell you what... you want to start a pool, I have zero objections. Whatever your entry fee I will donate the same amount towards BYOAC maintenance and remain outside of the pool.

DrewKaree · « **Reply #59 on:** July 22, 2006, 11:02:30 am »

Quote from: tommy on July 22, 2006, 02:32:39 am

First of all i was wanting him to post, not you. Second, all he's ever said was he dosen't bet with no reason other then he dosen't bet.

If you really think my comment about him not being able to afford it was a real statement you're a fool.

How the hell can you compare an online game where guys compete and "normally" would bet to trying to convince a guy to smoke? That is not a fair comparison by any stretch.

If the guy dosen't want to bet thats fine as i've stated in another post, all i asked was for him to explain what the problem was with it. If he dosen't want to answer on why he won't bet thats up to him, he dosen't own me an explanation.

I also don't see how having a conversation on betting would be a problem and for you to use my question as an example of why betting can cause trouble.

You were talking to him, but you may as well be talking to me, because I feel the same way. I'm not gonna bet. If you pestered Chad like this, there's no reason for me to believe you wouldn't do the same to me if Chad, for some reason, DID decide to throw money at it. I'm just as much a "target" as he is.

Why aren't you starting a league or a side pool for those who want to throw money at it? Is it just that you want to throw money around without all the hassle of actually working to make it happen?

I'm done explaining things you can't grasp, and thankfully Chad beat me to the post. I have but one thing to point out, and I'm done with this thread:

Quote

If the guy dosen't want to bet thats fine as i've stated in another post, all i asked was for him to explain what the problem was with it.

You're full of shite. If it's "fine", then any reason given thus far would MORE than "cut the cheese", and they HAVE been given, you simply don't think they're reasonable, which has nothing to do with them already being told to you. You've PROVED you don't believe they "cut the cheese" You can try to soften it six ways to Sunday, but you've already let your theories be known. For anyone who doesn't feel the same way you do, they're nuts, and you've said as much too.

Good luck to everyone this year, and I'll start a separate thread tonight or tomorrow for when the draft will be. GG will be taking the last spot if he hasn't already, so we'll have 14 teams, largest league yet!

tommy · « **Reply #60 on:** July 24, 2006, 12:49:06 am »

Drew is funny sometimes when he posts, that's why we all like you man.

I see no need to comment anymore.

mccoy178 · « **Reply #61 on:** September 09, 2006, 11:32:19 pm »

I've got a pretty solid team. At least .500.

mccoy178 · « **Reply #62 on:** September 24, 2006, 10:43:45 pm »

Where is all the talk?

For a fantasy league, you nancies sure are quiet now.


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