sorry for posting in the incorrect group, thats for the tips, I am pretty surprised how the cabinet dosent really sway at all, i have a ton of l-brackets in there, i also found a local dealer, got a HAPP 3" trackball for $80 and a bracket for $11 and 2 ultimate joysticks for $17 they sell on ebay also, really nice guy. I am adding my pic with the trackball and the controls in the CP.