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Author Topic: CoinDrop v1.3 Released - Now you can insert coins from your front-end!  (Read 64181 times)

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Re: CoinDrop v1.3 Released - Now you can insert coins from your front-end!
« Reply #120 on: January 21, 2006, 01:13:39 am »
My 2 cents.... if you truely wish to respect the wishes of us who think it is a bad idea, then you would cease development.  Unfortunately you were already foolish enough to make a release so it is too late for that.  We live in a digital age, once the "genie is out of the bottle" there is no way of putting it back in.

I'm sorry but I just can't see a legitimate use for such a program.  If you are using coins in your home cab then you are illegally gaining funds from it (in most cases).  If you aren't then it really isn't a big deal if someone tries to insert coins in a fe and "loses" some.  If you are trying to teach your kids the value of a dollar, give them a piggy bank.  If you wish to limit your childs play time simply spend some time with the little monster and make him/her quit playing when you see fit. 

I'm not ranting either way.. I'm just saying, this isn't an issue you can ride the fence on, just take a side and stick with it. 

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Re: CoinDrop v1.3 Released - Now you can insert coins from your front-end!
« Reply #121 on: January 22, 2006, 10:11:57 pm »
My 2 cents.... if you truely wish to respect the wishes of us who think it is a bad idea, then you would cease development.  Unfortunately you were already foolish enough to make a release so it is too late for that.  We live in a digital age, once the "genie is out of the bottle" there is no way of putting it back in.

I'm sorry but I just can't see a legitimate use for such a program.  If you are using coins in your home cab then you are illegally gaining funds from it (in most cases).  If you aren't then it really isn't a big deal if someone tries to insert coins in a fe and "loses" some.  If you are trying to teach your kids the value of a dollar, give them a piggy bank.  If you wish to limit your childs play time simply spend some time with the little monster and make him/her quit playing when you see fit. 

I'm not ranting either way.. I'm just saying, this isn't an issue you can ride the fence on, just take a side and stick with it. 

This is awfully hypocritical for someone who ask for compensation for modifying MAME code:
This is clearly a no-no.

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Description: For you 2k/xp users, this is the holy grail of all mame variants. I've managed to hack mame to span its output across two monitors! This means that playchoice 10 and punchout can be played they way they were meant to be. This also means that the annoying second monitor that wastes space on some games can be moved off screen. Shown in the picture is the pc10 version of contra on my computer and the pch10 menu on my psone screen.

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Re: CoinDrop v1.3 Released - Now you can insert coins from your front-end!
« Reply #122 on: February 10, 2006, 11:49:09 am »
wow this sounds like something i have been looking for.   

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=49816.0

Not to make money but just curious how much I would have spent had i actually used real quarters to play the games.   I have a key logger right now and in one week i pressed 5 (coin 1) 387 times which is about 97 bucks.

It sounds like another little app for personal use.

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Re: CoinDrop v1.3 Released - Now you can insert coins from your front-end!
« Reply #123 on: February 10, 2006, 02:45:28 pm »
Thanks for this! I can't wait to try it out.

You just have to ignore the naysayers. They don't understand that some of us are trying to recreate nostalgia. We spend a whole lot of effort on an "Illusion of Credibility" this is very similar to a good movie's "Suspension of Disbelief". If we can mimic everything down to the Coin Door, the atmosphere, it's like we're transported back in time to that Arcade in 1982, or into a Galaxy far far away. As soon as you see the man behind the curtain the illusion is broken and you're playing a crappy recreation rather than reliving a wondrous memory.

We could just push a button to get an extra credit. But we don't want to break that illusion. I don't recall a fury of naysayers when people posted on how to boot straight into Mamewah. Or when someone figured out how to wire a coin door to trigger MAME.

Anything to keep the illusion real is useful in my book.
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Re: CoinDrop v1.3 Released - Now you can insert coins from your front-end!
« Reply #124 on: February 24, 2006, 06:55:09 pm »
Thanks for this! I can't wait to try it out.

You just have to ignore the naysayers. They don't understand that some of us are trying to recreate nostalgia. We spend a whole lot of effort on an "Illusion of Credibility" this is very similar to a good movie's "Suspension of Disbelief". If we can mimic everything down to the Coin Door, the atmosphere, it's like we're transported back in time to that Arcade in 1982, or into a Galaxy far far away. As soon as you see the man behind the curtain the illusion is broken and you're playing a crappy recreation rather than reliving a wondrous memory.

We could just push a button to get an extra credit. But we don't want to break that illusion. I don't recall a fury of naysayers when people posted on how to boot straight into Mamewah. Or when someone figured out how to wire a coin door to trigger MAME.

Anything to keep the illusion real is useful in my book.
Joseph Elwell.

Nothin personal, but I don't remember any classic arcade games in '82 that ran a frontend....and took quarters and transferred em to any other game.

But otherwise, cool program...just use it responsibly

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Re: CoinDrop v1.3 Released - Now you can insert coins from your front-end!
« Reply #125 on: February 24, 2006, 06:59:55 pm »
Sammaz,

While I didn't send you a virus, I still acted foolishly and dragged others in to help me be an even bigger ass

I didn't stop to consider what I was doing or the end result of my actions, and what I did was too harsh. 

I shoulda been the bigger man in the end, and I ended up being the smallest of all.  I have no good excuse for what I did. 

I'm sorry.
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Re: CoinDrop v1.3 Released - Now you can insert coins from your front-end!
« Reply #127 on: February 25, 2006, 01:38:28 am »
wth am I doin posting here anyway...I don't even have a cab

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Re: CoinDrop v1.3 Released - Now you can insert coins from your front-end!
« Reply #128 on: February 25, 2006, 05:21:00 am »
Anyway...I got v1.0 with no .ini file...not working with mamewah

*Will trade for v1.3* Obo! ;D

lol

Good times...good times.


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A picture of your two cabs is not a project page.


I have removed the download, so if you missed it, too bad. Hopefully only some homebrewer's here have a copy. If you want a copy and can prove to me that you are a genuine homebrewer, then I will give you a url and password (PM me your project page). Hopefully this solves the issue somewhat.

The reason I have done this is mainly because of the comments by Haze. I have to respect the wishes of the Mame developers and that's that. I will continue the development and try to fix any bugs etc. so post any problems you have here.

Since the author has stated as much, I will assume that in his mind, you HAVE NOT proven you aren't going to bastardize his project for monetary reasons. 

The author's second point is that he is attempting to respect the wishes of the MAME developers.  In working to circumvent the author, you have demonstrated you don't feel the need to respect ANYONE'S wishes, and are therefore no longer worthy of MY time other than to respond to:

  • Your continued pleading to others to ASSIST you in circumventing the author
  • Your earlier statement that when you thought you obtained the program, you immediately forwarded it to several others looking to do the exact same thing - ignore and disrespect the author
  • Your continued spamming of the board and its members in PM's despite being told be AT LEAST three people that it's EXTREMELY TACKY and UNWANTED - and TO STOP IT
  • Your continued ignorance of visual verification and admonishment for your actions to circumvent the author's wishes
  • The definite appearance of you quite probably doing something illegal with this program - since you WON'T respect the author's wishes, there is NO reason for anyone to believe you WON'T use this illegally

Just because I did something wrong didn't mean I wasn't going to comment on the sheer stupidity of your actions.  I suspect you are a friend of a former troublemaker, or the troublemaker himself.  I took you OFF of my ignore list when I realized I did something highly inappropriate.  After your current actions, I realize you are deserving of your place back on my ignore list, where you will go.  I also have nothing more to say to you - EVER.

Your CURRENT PM to me that demonstrates YET AGAIN the issues with you isn't done, and won't be done until you are no longer a member of this place. 

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Re: CoinDrop v1.3 Released - Now you can insert coins from your front-end!
« Reply #129 on: February 26, 2006, 12:22:27 pm »
anyone ever wonder if the mame developers don't worry about original real hardware (720,  49way, SNK rotatries, ect) because it IS so easy to utilize their code for bad use? 

When it would be so easy to hack mame into a multi cab because of programs like this (and there are others).  They just aren't realy interested in helping anyone with a cab?

just curious.  Seems like many mame devs don't care about working with real hardware.   And that seems like the first thing they would do for nearly all drivers. 

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Re: CoinDrop v1.3 Released - Now you can insert coins from your front-end!
« Reply #130 on: February 26, 2006, 01:39:00 pm »
anyone ever wonder if the mame developers don't worry about original real hardware (720,  49way, SNK rotatries, ect) because it IS so easy to utilize their code for bad use? 

When it would be so easy to hack mame into a multi cab because of programs like this (and there are others).  They just aren't realy interested in helping anyone with a cab?

just curious.  Seems like many mame devs don't care about working with real hardware.   And that seems like the first thing they would do for nearly all drivers. 


After reading the interview with Aaron Giles, I think it's probably because they don't own any real arcade controls, just a few pcbs.  They work with a keyboard and mouse and that's all that exists for them.

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Re: CoinDrop v1.3 Released - Now you can insert coins from your front-end!
« Reply #131 on: February 26, 2006, 06:01:17 pm »
This program is no longer supported. Please do not PM me anymore. I will be locking this thread. Sorry.