RIP PSP?

[shmokes]

God, GTA is so good.  I swear to god, you people who don't think so have just driven around performing random acts of violence and after the novelty wore off, said, "Well, it's impressive, but it gets old."  If you actually play through the narative, though.....damn.  Especially San Andreas, but Vice City as well (never did more than the random acts of violence thing with GTA III) are expertly scripted and acted.  The stories are great.  The action is loads of fun.  And so on.

As for the PSP.....I think it's a great device.  It's innovative and tiny for what it's got inside.  It's much more powerful than the DS and certainly capable of some amazing games.  Obviously if the PS2 is capable of great games, so is the PSP.  It's just too damned expensive.  That's its only flaw.  You can't expect it to have a touch screen.  And it does have innovations for a portable.  The screen, the analog control, the wireless, the media capabilities.  It's an innovative, brilliantly designed device. 

It's just too damned expensive and being marketed by monkeys.

[pointdablame]

As for the comparison with the new iPod, I think there is no comparison.  It's not even worth making the comparison.  PSP would be good in place of a portable DVD player, for long train trips and odd times at conventions...  iPod is much more convenient to carry and use, but the tradeoff is there with the smaller screen.  It plays video, but it's still a music player at its core.

Interesting point but I disagree.Sony even said themselves that the PSP was in more of competition with the ipod than the Nintendo DS. They also called the PSP (on MANY occasions) the "Walkman for the 21st Century".
This is sonys main problem, they forget they have a handheld GAMES machine.

And why do you think apple went into video territory with the ipod anyway? its EVERYTHING to do with the PSP...

how can it even compair to an Ipod?

it does MP3, right, but how well? oh right, CRAPPY

Video, again, tiny ass screen, useless..

Don't kid yourself... the Ipod is not a great MP3 player either.  Its simple to use, and very POPULAR, but not a real great player.

And the PSP screen is leaps and bounds above the Ipod screen... there is no comparison.  It's also much better than teh DS screen if you strictly consider clarity, brightness, and viewing angle.

[SOAPboy]

As for the comparison with the new iPod, I think there is no comparison.

[versapak]

Guess im one of the few that really dislike being pushed a 300 dollar product, that does NOTHING very well, it does a bunch of things "OK"

It games well i suppose, but how many really good games are there, that arnt rehashes of old tired games? what 2 or 3?

Ipod, might not be OMG SUPER PIMP WOO great mp3 player, id never buy one, hell id buy a creative before one of those, point is that the MP3 function on the PSP is garbage..

First off... Question... How are you being pushed anything?

The PSP plays games very well. You don't like the games? Then fine, but that hardly changes how well it plays them.

The PSP plays movies very well. You don't like the screen being "so small"? Then fine, but that hardly changes how well it plays them.

The bitter chip you have against this device is most interesting. Angry like it raped your dog or something.

The comparison to an ipod has got to be one of the stupidest comparisons ever. Did you compare the original PSX to a cd player? I bet the PS2 was a total piece of crap, because it couldn't play DVD's as well as an actual DVD player. Right?

They share some secondary features. That's it.

[ChadTower]

God, GTA is so good.

[Pieman2004]

God, GTA is so good.

[Hoagie_one]

If i got bored, Id start up vice city and just cruise around listening to the music

[Samstag]

God, GTA is so good.

[SOAPboy]

Guess im one of the few that really dislike being pushed a 300 dollar product, that does NOTHING very well, it does a bunch of things "OK"

It games well i suppose, but how many really good games are there, that arnt rehashes of old tired games? what 2 or 3?

Ipod, might not be OMG SUPER PIMP WOO great mp3 player, id never buy one, hell id buy a creative before one of those, point is that the MP3 function on the PSP is garbage..

First off... Question... How are you being pushed anything?

The PSP plays games very well. You don't like the games? Then fine, but that hardly changes how well it plays them.

The PSP plays movies very well. You don't like the screen being "so small"? Then fine, but that hardly changes how well it plays them.

The bitter chip you have against this device is most interesting. Angry like it raped your dog or something.

The comparison to an ipod has got to be one of the stupidest comparisons ever. Did you compare the original PSX to a cd player? I bet the PS2 was a total piece of crap, because it couldn't play DVD's as well as an actual DVD player. Right?

They share some secondary features. That's it.

No thats the thing..

If the IPOD (first ipod) was pushed as a MP3, DATA Storage unit, and not just a player, id say the same thing

Problem is, PSP has been advertised and hyped up as this all in one device which it does nothing VERY WELL..

Controls on a psp, Thumbstick is shite, buttons are to smooth, no texture, slippy, Its made out of the WORST easy to scratch plastic finish ive ever seen.. The mp3 function SUCKS, it handles playlists (laughable to call them that) like crap, theres no indexing what so ever of the music.. And video, oh sweet video.. OMG ITS HIGH DEF WTF!!11, yeah sure, it could be 1080 for all i care, its a TINY ASS SCREEN.. Pointless Feature +++

[toyfiend2004]

ok... this argument is going nowhere... i propose this thread be closed.  but i am probably gonna get yelled at for that.   

[blackzc]

PSP is everywhere, sony has set up all these deal with retailers so the shelves are saturated with games, and the UMDs are there just to muscle out the DS and its games..

lol! how in the hell is the DS outselling it STILL?! I love that some people still buy things based on its games and not hype.

I agree, aside from the flat out amazing screen it does everything, meh, and nothing well.

[Hoagie_one]

the best features of the PSP are the features and products introduced by teh homebrewers.  Sony's stuff is meh.

[darthbane2k]

all of this arguing brings me back to my original point.. just what market IS the PSP in?

Its WHITE ear phones, hand strap and the fact that Sony itself bills it as the 'walkman for the 21st century' suggests to me its rivalling Apple for the MP3 market

The tons and tons of UMD movies (more releases than games!) and the new gigapack with 'movie stand' suggests to me that its a portable video player

or the games suggests its rivalling the likes of nintendo DS for the portable gaming market

yet the web browser and soon to be included TXT/MS Word file reader suggests its some sort of PDA...

Sony dont really seem to be focused with the PSP.

Its a jack of all trades and master of none. Trust me, we have 3 PSPs within my immediate family!

[tetsujin]

The comparison to an ipod has got to be one of the stupidest comparisons ever. (...) I bet the PS2 was a total piece of crap, because it couldn't play DVD's as well as an actual DVD player. Right?

Actually, that is one worth getting angry about, IMO.  The box says the thing can play DVDs - but in my experience, there's a lot of commercially-released DVDs it simply can't play, because of shoddy hardware or shoddy firmware or both...  Like I'd get halfway through watching a movie and the thing would crash to a black screen claiming "unable to read disc" - when any component DVD player could do the job just fine.  If they weren't prepared to do the thing right they shouldn't have advertised that it could play DVD movies.

The PSP plays games very well. You don't like the games? Then fine, but that hardly changes how well it plays them.

True, but the strength of a system isn't just in the hardware, it's in the games.  A game system can be really powerful, but that doesn't make it a better system unless it's got better games.

But that also means that the "quality of a system" is not an absolute, it's something that can vary person-to-person.  So far, the PSP has no value to me because I won't accept certain characteristics of it (battery life and, load time, mainly).  The potential for using it as a video player (by transferring my media to it, rather than by buying UMDs) is interesting, but not compelling.  And there's nothing in the game library that I'm driven to buy, either.  It's a luscious and beautiful machine, with at least one beautifully creative game on the platform (Mercury) but it's not for me.  The DS, on the other hand, fascinates me, and there are games for it I do want to own and play.  But for another person the situation could be totally different.

darthbane: I think you make good points about the PSP being apparently somewhat unfocused.  I think Sony's trying the old "embrace and extend" move: they're (IMO, and just barely) the strongest player in the current (about to be retired) generation of home consoles, and they're trying to extend that into not only the portable gaming market, but to also use the almost guraranteed popularity of their portable game machine to create a solid niche for themselves in portable video as well.  By selling PSPs they get a large base of customers who are prepared to buy memory sticks and UMDs.  Presumably the plan is that if the PSP does well, other UMD video players will appear from Sony, or maybe even other manufacturers, too.  Personally I don't think that'll work out in the end, but I think that's what they're attempting.

But to say that it's a "master of no trades" - the machine is very popular as a game system and for movies.  Lots of people have found it to their liking...  To them, at least, the device itself has proven itself and no amount of logical argument will change that.

[darthbane2k]

To them, at least, the device itself has proven itself and no amount of logical argument will change that.

Not when it continues to be outsold by Nintendo DS and GBA Micro...

[pmc]

all of this arguing brings me back to my original point.. just what market IS the PSP in?

Its a jack of all trades and master of none. Trust me, we have 3 PSPs within my immediate family!

I'm not sure what Sony thinks I should do with mine, but I got a great portable gaming machine that's good enough at a bunch of other things too.

I just finished spending like 13 hours on planes and I played UMD games, watched videos (off the stick), played emulators, listened to MP3s, read some PSP formatted magazines, and could've watched a UMD movie too but didn't. Kept me busy for a long time.

Don't buy it if you don't want one. But I don't see too many alternatives that are jack's of all trades. I don't need a perfect MP3 player. I'm happy with a great gaming machine that can do MP3 good enough. That's exactly what I needed. And the games are awesome. Works for me anyway... regardless how Sony is marketing it. Seems like there's a niche for it that nothing else is filling quite as well.

-pmc

[darthbane2k]

all of this arguing brings me back to my original point.. just what market IS the PSP in?

Its a jack of all trades and master of none. Trust me, we have 3 PSPs within my immediate family!

I'm not sure what Sony thinks I should do with mine, but I got a great portable gaming machine that's good enough at a bunch of other things too.

I just finished spending like 13 hours on planes and I played UMD games, watched videos (off the stick), played emulators, listened to MP3s, read some PSP formatted magazines, and could've watched a UMD movie too but didn't. Kept me busy for a long time.

Don't buy it if you don't want one. But I don't see too many alternatives that are jack's of all trades. I don't need a perfect MP3 player. I'm happy with a great gaming machine that can do MP3 good enough. That's exactly what I needed. And the games are awesome. Works for me anyway... regardless how Sony is marketing it. Seems like there's a niche for it that nothing else is filling quite as well.

-pmc

What do you mean dont buy one? I already own one.
My point is that I like many others bought it on the basis that it would be a handheld console. There has been a severe lack of quality software releases at the moment (hence DS selling more) as Sony seems to be putting its energy into uncessary UMD movie releases and not games.
That is what is annoying me.
I really dont care about its poor mans PDA functions such as web browsing or watching video. A 1 gig Memory stick for PSP video would cost me

[pmc]

Fair point. I'm picking up GTA this week, but otherwise I haven't bought many new games since release since there hasn't been much to pick from. I don't really buy UMD movies.

But I still view it as a solid gaming platform that can also do some other stuff well enough to satisfy the basic need. I'm happy with it and don't see many alternatives if that's what you're looking for (and obviously that's not what you are looking for).

-pmc

[Samstag]

I just finished spending like 13 hours on planes and I played UMD games, watched videos (off the stick), played emulators, listened to MP3s, read some PSP formatted magazines, and could've watched a UMD movie too but didn't. Kept me busy for a long time.

Got any links to PSP-formatted magazines?

[versapak]

Some of you guys are funny.


OF COURSE there are more movies for PSP than games.


Sony isn't putting some sort of huge effort behind releasing movies instead of games. They are just releasing them when they come out, like any other movie media. Like it takes some sort of huge effort for them to place a movie on a UMD.

My PS2 and Xbox play DVD's. Should I be pissed that there are THOUSANDS more DVD movies than there are games?


I can certainly understand dissapointment in the library of games. That is a personal opinion. It will vary from person to person, and nothing I do or say is going to change that, but a complaint about the number of movies over games is just goofy.

[Otraotaku]

Apart from the obvious fact that the PSP is way too expensive/fragile/complicated to dominate the handheld market - I as a PSP owner believe it is doomed.
Why? Because primarily sony see it as a media device and a gaming device second, and you know what has killed the PSP - not the DS (although it sells more) but the ipod video...

lmfao one of our video rental places here, have MORE psp movies to rent than new release dvds, and almost none for sale..

Its laughable..

WEEE lets watch movies on a tiny screen..

and whats even funnier is that in the UK we will soon have a PSP giga pack, this comes with a 1gb memory stick, psp and... 'PSP Stand' so you can mount your psp upright and enjoy movies on the 'small screen' in your room!

i feel sorry for the guy who thought that up, and also for thinking it would sell... heheh

[Otraotaku]

PSP is everywhere, sony has set up all these deal with retailers so the shelves are saturated with games, and the UMDs are there just to muscle out the DS and its games..

lol! how in the hell is the DS outselling it STILL?! I love that some people still buy things based on its games and not hype.

I agree, aside from the flat out amazing screen it does everything, meh, and nothing well.

but one of the biggest reasons why DS is only out selling the PSP, Especially IN Japan, they have like 3-5 Killer apts in japan running right now alone... Electroplanton, Jump Super Stars, Nintendogs,and a few others i cant remember... or pronounce... and await two other Hits in late november and december which adds a new FREE* service to the DS, Animal Crossing + Mario Kart... (which can be played online at home or hot spot)

As now for today PSP Will have gotten two if they will be dubbed killer apt... star wars Battlefront II (sequel to the best selling star wars game) and of course GTA (the sequel to a sequel best selling game to gangsters, SONY culture and waht not)

im very interested to see how it stacks up till next year, but if the holiday season doesnt sell more PSP's then DS's... then it isDoomed,
(Nintendo had its DS for last Holiday season)

[ROMbler]

As for GTA, LOL I hate the series! I must be the only PSP owner who does though..

I don't care for GTA either... Love my PSP with ripped movies and will be getting the new SW Battlefront II for my PSP today

- Another satisfied PSP owner

[Hoagie_one]

if one of you sad PSP owners wants to be rid of you PSP, i might be interested if the price is right

[darthbane2k]

I just finished spending like 13 hours on planes and I played UMD games, watched videos (off the stick), played emulators, listened to MP3s, read some PSP formatted magazines, and could've watched a UMD movie too but didn't. Kept me busy for a long time.

Got any links to PSP-formatted magazines?

[darthbane2k]

Some of you guys are funny.


OF COURSE there are more movies for PSP than games.


Sony isn't putting some sort of huge effort behind releasing movies instead of games. They are just releasing them when they come out, like any other movie media. Like it takes some sort of huge effort for them to place a movie on a UMD.

My PS2 and Xbox play DVD's. Should I be pissed that there are THOUSANDS more DVD movies than there are games?


I can certainly understand dissapointment in the library of games. That is a personal opinion. It will vary from person to person, and nothing I do or say is going to change that, but a complaint about the number of movies over games is just goofy.

The DVD is not an exclusive format to Sony and MS, you can buy seperate DVD players and DVD Roms, it is universal.
UMDs on the other hand are exclusive for PSP, are produced by sony and sony alone and cannot be used on any other device.
I would say Sony have a DIRECT hand in choosing to market UMD movies over actual games.

[pointdablame]

Some of you guys are funny.


OF COURSE there are more movies for PSP than games.


Sony isn't putting some sort of huge effort behind releasing movies instead of games. They are just releasing them when they come out, like any other movie media. Like it takes some sort of huge effort for them to place a movie on a UMD.

My PS2 and Xbox play DVD's. Should I be pissed that there are THOUSANDS more DVD movies than there are games?


I can certainly understand dissapointment in the library of games. That is a personal opinion. It will vary from person to person, and nothing I do or say is going to change that, but a complaint about the number of movies over games is just goofy.

The DVD is not an exclusive format to Sony and MS, you can buy seperate DVD players and DVD Roms, it is universal.
UMDs on the other hand are exclusive for PSP, are produced by sony and sony alone and cannot be used on any other device.
I would say Sony have a DIRECT hand in choosing to market UMD movies over actual games.

you are missing the point. 

Sony sells and produces DVDs anyway... quite a HUGE number of them.  They have the video files and the ability to drop them onto a UMD in what would be considered a millisecond in the business world.

Why WOULDN'T they make their movies on UMD?   And of course they are marketing them... that's their job.

I love how people ---smurfette--- and moan about there being more UMD movies... do you see how many movies come out?  Maybe sony should just stop putting out movies to make you feel better about your system.  Wouldn't want you to feel like your PSP is just a movie player... they should just pick 10 or 20 movies to release right?  No more than that... than it becomes a jack-of-all-trades again. 

[darthbane2k]

Some of you guys are funny.


OF COURSE there are more movies for PSP than games.


Sony isn't putting some sort of huge effort behind releasing movies instead of games. They are just releasing them when they come out, like any other movie media. Like it takes some sort of huge effort for them to place a movie on a UMD.

My PS2 and Xbox play DVD's. Should I be pissed that there are THOUSANDS more DVD movies than there are games?


I can certainly understand dissapointment in the library of games. That is a personal opinion. It will vary from person to person, and nothing I do or say is going to change that, but a complaint about the number of movies over games is just goofy.

The DVD is not an exclusive format to Sony and MS, you can buy seperate DVD players and DVD Roms, it is universal.
UMDs on the other hand are exclusive for PSP, are produced by sony and sony alone and cannot be used on any other device.
I would say Sony have a DIRECT hand in choosing to market UMD movies over actual games.

you are missing the point.

[DYNAGOD]

PSP is failing dysmally as a games machine.

you must be in the minority, becuase i got one and i dont feel dissapointed in the least, hell i can barely put the thing down.
i was only expecting a game system , i got much more.
its a NES,SNES,Neo-Geo CD,SegaMegadrive,Move Player,MP3-MP4 player,Image viewer,PDF reader,Internet browser,and it plays some pretty damn good looking PSP games.
whats to complain about, its got too much functionality?
some people will never be happy

[Goz]

PSP is failing dysmally as a games machine.

you must be in the minority, becuase i got one and i dont feel dissapointed in the least, hell i can barely put the thing down.
i was only expecting a game system , i got much more.
its a NES,SNES,Neo-Geo CD,SegaMegadrive,Move Player,MP3-MP4 player,Image viewer,PDF reader,Internet browser,and it plays some pretty damn good looking PSP games.
whats to complain about, its got too much functionality?
some people will never be happy

On this board, some exist only to complain.... 

[versapak]

Well it seems that you are a sony apologist, and in your eyes they can do no wrong. But me, I like to call a spade a spade, and the PSP is failing dysmally as a games machine.
Sony ARE wasting all energy chasing movie studios, begging them to release on the UMD format and are NOT putting that same energy into pursuing games developers and decent games titles.
Why is it that Nintendo DS are getting final fantasys III IV V VI as well as World of mana, when the PSP gets NO such RPG from square - what do they get? A LAME final fantasy movie on UMD.
Furthermore it bothers and irritates the hell out of me when I walk into a store like GAME and there are more UMD Movies on the shelves than actual PSP games.

Sony have said it themselves, the PSP is not a games machine, it is 'the walkman of the 21st century'.

Huh?

[darthbane2k]

PSP is failing dysmally as a games machine.

i was only expecting a game system , i got much more.
its a NES,SNES,Neo-Geo CD,SegaMegadrive,Move Player,MP3-MP4 player,Image viewer,PDF reader,Internet browser,and it plays some pretty damn good looking PSP games.
whats to complain about, its got too much functionality?
some people will never be happy

Two things

1) emulation is NOT a function built into the PSPby default. They have firmware to crack down on homebrew, so you cannot use the web browser AND play SNES games without reflashing, which is a pain if you are out and about as you need your charger to reflash

2) ever heard of an ipaq? I have been doing the PDF reading/web browsing/movie playing for years. I did not buy my PSP to do those things badly (poor mans PDA) but I bought it for games. After brillance such as Ridge Racers,Metal Gear Acid, one must ask.. just WHERE are the games?!!

[darthbane2k]

Well it seems that you are a sony apologist, and in your eyes they can do no wrong. But me, I like to call a spade a spade, and the PSP is failing dysmally as a games machine.
Sony ARE wasting all energy chasing movie studios, begging them to release on the UMD format and are NOT putting that same energy into pursuing games developers and decent games titles.
Why is it that Nintendo DS are getting final fantasys III IV V VI as well as World of mana, when the PSP gets NO such RPG from square - what do they get? A LAME final fantasy movie on UMD.
Furthermore it bothers and irritates the hell out of me when I walk into a store like GAME and there are more UMD Movies on the shelves than actual PSP games.

Sony have said it themselves, the PSP is not a games machine, it is 'the walkman of the 21st century'.

Huh?

[DYNAGOD]

PSP is failing dysmally as a games machine.

i was only expecting a game system , i got much more.
its a NES,SNES,Neo-Geo CD,SegaMegadrive,Move Player,MP3-MP4 player,Image viewer,PDF reader,Internet browser,and it plays some pretty damn good looking PSP games.
whats to complain about, its got too much functionality?
some people will never be happy

Two things

1) emulation is NOT a function built into the PSPby default. They have firmware to crack down on homebrew, so you cannot use the web browser AND play SNES games without reflashing, which is a pain if you are out and about as you need your charger to reflash

2) ever heard of an ipaq? I have been doing the PDF reading/web browsing/movie playing for years. I did not buy my PSP to do those things badly (poor mans PDA) but I bought it for games.

Emulation IS a function buildt into the PSP by deafult, the original version up to 1.51 was designed and intended by sony to promote a homebrew scene, what they didnt plan on was the ISO's being so easily loaded via mem card and had to about face.even so, there are web browsers for 1.0 thru 1.5, theres no need to upgrade the bios. hell you can use the wipeout browser for that matter,so its possible to have emulation and browsing. your point is mute

2) ever heard of an ipaq? I have been doing the PDF reading/web browsing/movie playing for years. I did not buy my PSP to do those things badly (poor mans PDA) but I bought it for games. After brillance such as Ridge Racers,Metal Gear Acid, one must ask.. just WHERE are the games?!!

sure as hell not on your Ipaq !

do you people even have a point?

[darthbane2k]

PSP is failing dysmally as a games machine.

i was only expecting a game system , i got much more.
its a NES,SNES,Neo-Geo CD,SegaMegadrive,Move Player,MP3-MP4 player,Image viewer,PDF reader,Internet browser,and it plays some pretty damn good looking PSP games.
whats to complain about, its got too much functionality?
some people will never be happy

Two things

1) emulation is NOT a function built into the PSPby default. They have firmware to crack down on homebrew, so you cannot use the web browser AND play SNES games without reflashing, which is a pain if you are out and about as you need your charger to reflash

2) ever heard of an ipaq? I have been doing the PDF reading/web browsing/movie playing for years. I did not buy my PSP to do those things badly (poor mans PDA) but I bought it for games.

Emulation IS a function buildt into the PSP by deafult, the original version up to 1.51 was designed and intended by sony to promote a homebrew scene, what they didnt plan on was the ISO's being so easily loaded via mem card and had to about face.even so, there are web browsers for 1.0 thru 1.5, theres no need to upgrade the bios. hell you can use the wipeout browser for that matter,so its possible to have emulation and browsing. your point is mute

2) ever heard of an ipaq? I have been doing the PDF reading/web browsing/movie playing for years. I did not buy my PSP to do those things badly (poor mans PDA) but I bought it for games. After brillance such as Ridge Racers,Metal Gear Acid, one must ask.. just WHERE are the games?!!

sure as hell not on your Ipaq !

do you people even have a point?

First of all, YOUR point is moot if you think that wipeout 'thing' is worthy enough to be called a decent web browser LOL!

As for Sony 'designing' the PSP for emulation - i'd like some more info on that / link please?...


No the games are not on my ipaq, but then again my ipaq is a PDA, it is SUPPOSED to web browser, manage my schedule, read PDFs etc and it does those things a hell of a lot BETTER than a PSP.
I bought my PSP for games and games alone because Sony said it would be a handheld PLAYstation GAMES console.
If I wanted another PDA I would have gone with a more later Ipaq model.

Do us people have a point? Id say so considering I OWN a dedicated MP3 player, PSP, PDA and Home cinema system and can assess which is more advantageous than the other in terms of specific functions. Where you are simply carrying on like a 'sony can do no wrong' fanboy...

[DYNAGOD]

sounds heavy 

[pointdablame]

This thread is retarded.

Darthbane, go sell your PSP and carry around your 7 seperate portable devices so that they do things "well"  I'd rather carry around a PSP to play games, and maybe use the added features once in a while instead of lugging around an Ipod, Ipaq, DS, Portable DVD player, et al.

Funny you mention a 51" movie screen... I suppose you can carry that with you on a plane?  OF course you're not supposed to watch UMD movies in your house... ITS A PORTABLE SYSTEM.  It's retarded to compare a PSP to a home theater... even if they have a stand for movies coming out... which would sit really well on a tray in a plane... or on a desk at school....

And for the record, you have zero business sense.  Sony doesn't have to put a lot of effort into getting people to distribute UMD movies.  Movie studios realize there is a market for it (although I still don't think UMD movies are worth the money).  The marginal cost of putting your DVDs onto the UMD format is almost negligible in the grand scheme of things.  A few hours of video editing and probably $3 in materials or some absurdly low cost...

Do you have any idea what the cycle time is on a game?  Now compare that to Paramount dropping some 5 year old movie to a UMD disc that uses a standardized video format.... wow.... I AM SO SURPRISED THEY HAVE MORE MOVIES OUT!!1one!

You can't pop out a PSP game every week like you can with a backlog of THOUSANDS of movies.  If you don't like UMD movies... dont buy them!!!  It wouldn't change the number of games out.  There are a lot of PSP games in the works, but they are a little more time intensive than putting video on a disc.   

And you seem to think Metal Gear Acid is the only game on PSP.  IF that's the only game you are interested, that's one thing.  But there are plenty of really good games out on teh PSP, without even mentioning the emulation scene (which by the way you can't just shrug off since it's not "supposed" to be on the PSP.. .it is... and it's great.)  Burnout, Lumines, Wipeout, Hot Shots Golf, Virtual Tennis, MGS Acid, Mercury, GTA, Twisted Metal... and that's just what I can think of off the top of my head.  Those are all GREAT games.  Plus, the PSP hasn't even been on the market for a year yet...

As for being a Sony apologist.. no I'm not.  I also am not a Sony fanboy.  I think the PSP is overpriced and they made an error in thinking that they'd compete fully with Nintendo at that price point.  THAT is why the DS sells more.  Many can't afford a PSP, or don't think it's worth it for the price, or Billy's parents get a DS so that they can save $100.  That's not to say that the PSP would destroy the DS at the same price point though. Nintendo has quite a hold on the handeld market, but it certainly would be closer if they PSP was at the same price.

Its just amazing the lengths people will go to ---smurfette--- and moan about this type of stuff.  Sell your PSP and go make love with a DS if you love RPG's so much.  Go get a Sony Libre if you know you will be reading 40 hours of e-books each week.  Use your Ipaq for WiFi if you need to be online on the go 5 hours a day.

But just because the PSP isn't the best at EVERYTHING, doesn't mean its not a good system.  And just because YOU dont like the games that are out, doesn't mean there aren't any games for the system.

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Yes Sony COLUMBIA and TRISTAR are a massive movie studio, but Sony COMPUTER ENTERTAINMENT are supposed to be about entertauinment.. so where are the games? Plus as I mentioned before (but you chose to ignore) apart from the Sony catalogue of movies, explain why sony have spend much of their time, energy and budget trying to entice other movie studios to develop umd movies for PSP rather than attracting GAME developers.

What in the world are you talking about?

There are plenty of games out now and coming out for the PSP. Whether you actually like them or not is of course personal preference. It is not like they are going for one over the other.

Movies are easier to get on PSP. Whether it be from their own studios or another, because the movies are not being produced for that one format alone. A movie is made for a theatrical run. It is then easily put to other medias without much worry of extra cost in doing so. I personally have hundreds of DVD's, and it only takes me, on my outdated PC, a few hours to transfer one of those to a totally different media.

A game on the other hand has to be developed specifically for a platform. Sure they can then port to other platforms, but that is far more costly and time consuming than just putting it on a different type of media.

Say what you want about the DS (My brother has one) but the likes of Final FantasyIII (in 3D!) , FFIV FFV and FFVI (best FF ever) as well as world of mana excite the hell outta me! I love RPGs yet there are none worth buying for PSP.
E3 came and went and NO DECENT PSP games were announced (bar Metal Gear Acid 2), For DS there were tons.. is THIS how Sony expect to compete with Nintendo, by selling the likes of Ghostbusters the movie for

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This thread is getting interesting.

I'll add another perspective...

UMD looks to me to be similar to SONY minidisk and the memory-stick -- an attempt to get an exclusive format out there. I don't think it will work any better than their other attempts which were marginally successful. I think that the heavy release volume for movies is an attempt to legitimize the UMD format.

Personally I don't care because I still view it as a killer gaming platform that has the extra benefit of being a portable movie player. It's gravy to me.

Got any links to PSP-formatted magazines?

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wow, those PSP mags could come in real handy at work when I can't get a great net connection.

I'll have to steal the roommate's PSP before I go to work next