Hey y'all, looks like the pope might be about to die

[GGKoul]

and pro-child molestation

When I last check, Child Molestation was against the Law.

[shmokes]

The impression I get is politics, but when finally pressured to go after Law the Pope made that impossible.  I'm not saying that the AG is an innocent victim, just that the late Pope deserves his share of culpability.

[GGKoul]

The impression I get is politics, but when finally pressured to go after Law the Pope made that impossible.

[shmokes]

I disagree.  If Iceland refuses to extradite Bobby Fisher the U.S. is not going to march in there and take him. 

An even better example is probably Roman Polanski, who was not in attendance to receive his Oscar for directing The Pianist because he fled the country to avoid going to jail after having sex with a 13 year old girl in 1973.  If he had come back to accept his award he would probably have been arrested the second he stepped foot in the airport, but it's been over 30 years since he left.  We know exactly where he lives and what he does for a living.  We even do business with him.  But as long as he doesn't find himself in American territory he is perfectly safe. 

[ChadTower]

Law was around when this happened for awhile and the AG could have easily done everything in their power to kept Law in the US.  But they didn't.... Why?

Law was a VERY powerful man in MA.  The proof had to be overwhelming and clear.  Once Reilly (the AG) finally had that proof (like I said, the obstruction of justice was huge), that was when the Pope promoted Law to the Vatican.

[GGKoul]

Law was around when this happened for awhile and the AG could have easily done everything in their power to kept Law in the US.

[ChadTower]

Yes all this is true.  Regardless, the fact remains the AG could have done something but chose not too until it was too late and the Pope moved Law to Vatican for whatever reason.  So both have to share the blame. 

Some, but it is minimal.  He was rightly focusing on the priests who had actually comitted the acts.  There were a lot of them to be investigating all at once and many of them were going to die of old age before they could be indicted so time was of the essence.

[shmokes]

God...that was confusing.  For a minute I thought ChadTower was losing it quoting himself and then making rebuttals to his own quotes.  That's funny.

[danny_galaga]

OK, back to popes. My dad LOVES conspiracy theories (unfortunately he's sometimes right, which means it justifies all the crazy ideas that are obviously wrong). so his latest is that the new pope will be brazilian because brazil is heading in a socialist direction and that is making the church nervous. he draws the parallel with lech walensa in poland and the polish pope helping to topple the regime there. what he fails to realise is that the polish didnt realyy want that sort of government, while if brazil is becoming more socialist its not because of a revolution but because the elected government is evolving that way. Italy and france also lean towards socialism and they are predominantly catholic but i dont see anything happening there.
besides, the people most anxious about socialism are americans who are NOT predominantly catholic so why would the church help?
anyone else agree with my dad?

[GGKoul]

I think the new pope will be from Africa.

[shmokes]

I'm starting to think I don't even have a chance.

[Dartful Dodger]

so his latest is that the new pope will be brazilian

You are forgetting the pact that Bush made with the Catholic Church, the next pope will be from the USA.

[jbox]

How about an African pope who moves the vatican to the USA and then agrees to get a 'brazilian' wax every couple of months?   

[danny_galaga]

hehe. sounds like a good compromise. im hoping aussie George Pell gets in (dunno why really as im an atheist, but its the same with cricket. always go for the aussies even though i cant stand the game)

[NiN^_^NiN]

hehe. sounds like a good compromise. im hoping aussie George Pell gets in (dunno why really as im an atheist, but its the same with cricket. always go for the aussies even though i cant stand the game)

I hope he doesn't i'm australian and that man is as bad as the child molestors in the church he moved priest who he new molested kids to diff churches and didn't warn them and keep moving them after the had done it again and again.

He shouldn't be the pope at all they all protect their own hey don't do anything about child molestation till after the media finds out they keep hiding it and moving them to new places so they can do it AGAIN!

Nowonder im not a practicing christian anymore.....

I really find it very hard to believe a black man will become pope they have already made up excuses why he shouldnt be elected it's stupid 

[ChadTower]

I look at it this way... the Catholic church has had so many horrific episodes in its history, this is just one more.  They are smart enough and long sighted enough to know that in 40 years no one will remember this and they will still exist.  There are advantages to being 2000 years old when the average person only lives to be 65 or so.

How many people remember all of the people murdered under the cross?  How many people remember when they CHARGED people for forgiveness?

Very, very few, and few will remember this in 100 years.

[GGKoul]

so his latest is that the new pope will be brazilian

You are forgetting the pact that Bush made with the Catholic Church, the next pope will be from the USA.

Bush isn't Catholic, then why would he make a pack with the Catholic Church? 

[Witchboard]

Bush isn't Catholic, then why would he make a pack with the Catholic Church?

[danny_galaga]

so his latest is that the new pope will be brazilian

You are forgetting the pact that Bush made with the Catholic Church, the next pope will be from the USA.

Bush isn't Catholic, then why would he make a pack with the Catholic Church?

[Dartful Dodger]

dartful was being ironic gg. his is a subtle humour (",)

Seriously, I think he'll be Italian.  The church needs to regroup.

So who knows enough about this to start a Pope Poll, with a real list of replacements for the Pol Pole?

[GGKoul]

dartful was being ironic gg. his is a subtle humour (",)

Seriously, I think he'll be Italian.

[GGKoul]

Round One.. Black smoke.. no pope.

[jbox]

Round One.. Black smoke.. no pope.

Not to mention they've probably only got a few hours left to find that anti-matter bomb by now...

[danny_galaga]

theyre all the same to me. but ALL catholics should hope for an aussie pope. the reason is simple- aussies just LOVE a public holiday. so with george pell or some other aussie joker in office hell do his best (im certain) to find another public holiday to celebrate. we already celebrate jesus birthday AND death day. how about his BAHMITZVAH? celebrate his doddle-cutting day (",). or how about his first miracle? like when he tied esky lids to his feet and walked on water! we can have the day off and have competitions to see how far we can walk across the swimming pool (",) (",)
or how about the first time he got it on with mary magdelene? (o) (o)

[menace]

Not to mention they've probably only got a few hours left to find that anti-matter bomb by now...

LOL--took me a minute but then I got it--you aussies crack me up

[Bones]

Water into VB. That would be a religion I could truly appreciate.

[jbox]

The only real danger with the current conclave is that Wojtyla lived for so long that there are only a couple of people he didn't put in there. I remain cautiously optimistic however on the next Pope being an 'outie', devoutly religous, and actually dedicated to building bridges to communities the Church has traditionally had difficulty relating to. Don't forget that some of these people joined the church *after* Vatican II, so they at least presumably agree with *some* of it, which means we just have to wait for the rest of the pre-60's lot to 'advance' their personal relationship with God.

Well, as Bruce Boxleitner said in one of his outtakes: 'God I'm off the mark, I couldn't have been more off the [friken] mark if I'd tried!'     
 
Switching to the other thread now I've apologised for that piece of crud masquerading as an optimistic opinion.

[danny_galaga]

well, they had their chance. no aussie pope- no national jesus's doodle cutting day....