Best Album of...

[ChadTower]

Topic done to death, but I'm actually thinking about it right now.

I can't come up with a better album from the 90s than Appetite for Destruction.

[Stingray]

Except it was released in 1987.

-S

[ChadTower]

Oooh, I was looking at the CD release date.  Ooops.  The CD was released in October of 1990... the other formats in '87.  My bad.   

[missioncontrol]

It was still a great album in 1990....just only a few years old

[FractalWalk]

I never did get the big deal about GNR. Sure they were good but they weren't that great.

Off the top of my head . . . Radiohead The Bends or Jane's Addiction Ritual De la Habitual both are better efforts than Appetite.


edit: I totally spaced Niravana's Nevermind

2nd edit: Oh crap! Dr Dre The Chronic. Okay I'll stop now.

[BUCKETHEAD]

My Favorite albums are:

1.

[GGKoul]

U2 - Joshua Tree
Green Day - American Idiot
Ned's Atomic DustBin - Are you Normal?

[RayB]

Depeche Mode - Violator
The Cure - Disintegration

[FractalWalk]

Depeche Mode - Violator
The Cure - Disintegration

golf clap

[Zero_Hour]

Soul Coughing - "Ruby Vroom"
Tool - "Aenima"
Beck - "Sea Change"
Bjork - "Debut"
Nirvana - "In Utero"

[Bones]

AC/DC - Back in Black
Midnight Oil - Place Without a Postcard
Dire Straights - Love over Gold
Iron Maiden - Piece of Mind
Cold Chisel - Circus Animals

In no particluar order.....

[rohan]

Jane's Addiction: Nothing's Shocking
Metallica: Kill em All

[quarterback]

Jane's Addiction: Nothing's Shocking
Metallica: Kill em All

Two of my favorites as well.

[GGKoul]

Depeche Mode - Violator
The Cure - Disintegration

I go to add those to my list...

[ChadTower]

The main problem I have with Nirvana is that the Boston rock stations play them more than even current music.  At least 15% of the airplay is Nirvana, another 10% is Metallica.  It has gotten to the point that the two bands are annoying because it's overplayed radio crap.

[Buddabing]

Peter Gabriel - So
Rush - Moving Pictures
Led Zeppelin IV

[FractalWalk]

The Beatles? Led Zeppelin IV? So I take it we have just abandoned the whole "albums from the 90's" thing?

If so, then Pink Floyd Dark Side Of The Moon

[RayB]

Yeah we abandoned the 90's long ago! Nothing good came out of the 90's

[bigle]

neutral milk hotel - in the aeroplane over the sea - 1998

[GGKoul]

The main problem I have with Nirvana is that the Boston rock stations play them more than even current music.

[RayB]

Plus the guy shot himself.. get over it.

[missioncontrol]

The main problem I have with Nirvana is that the Boston rock stations play them more than even current music.

[Stingray]

As long as it seems okay to include The Beatles here, the White Album and Abbey Road will forever be tied for best album of all time in my personal top ten.

-S

[Santoro]

Since we have abandoned the '90s, I second U2 - Joshua Tree ,Rush - Moving Pictures,and Peter Gabriel - So.

And I would add Yes - Fragile and Pink Floyd - Dark Side of the Moon.

Recent stuff?

[shmokes]

Pavement - Slanted & Enchanted
Radiohead - OK Computer
Britney Spears - Baby One More Time  (Just Kidding)

And yeah, I think Nirvana - Nevermind is probably the most important album of the nineties

Oh yeah, I gotta second Neutral Milk Hotel's In The Aeroplane Over The Sea.  That album is amazing.

[JoyMonkey]

The Prodigy - Music For the Jilted Generation

If I had to pick a Nirvana album it would be Bleach.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Best of the 90's:

Radiohead - OK Computer
Sonic Youth - Goo
Beck - Mutations
Pixies - Trompe le Monde/Bossanova
Nirvana - Nevermind
Janes Addiction - Ritual de lo Habitual
Prodigy - Music For The Jilted Generation (Agreed, JoyMonkey!!)
Melvins - Stonerwitch and/or Bullhead
Social Distortion - Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell
NIN - Pretty Hate Machine (released in '89)

I could *never* pick just one album....but if I had to, I'd pick Nevermind. Bleach is one of my favorites, but Nevermind broke the mold. Not only did it change the way I thought about life/music, it changed the entire landscape of Rock for everyone in America. No doubt in my mind that Nirvana's influence destroyed the lame hairbands (at least for a while), while renewing the awe and respect one should have for the old dinosaurs like Sabbath, Beatles, et al..


mrC

[JoyMonkey]

Beck - Mutations

I can't stand Mutations! I bought it as soon as it hit the shelves, thinking that the  instant beauty of Odelay would be rejuvenated once again. Instead I found it painfully boring. I think I only listened to it once. Maybe just because is was the exact opposite of what I was hoping for. I saw Beck a year later and was delighted that he wasn't carrying any Mutations material in his live set.

Edit Pixies definitely gets monkeythumbs up.

[Zakk]

ECH TO ALL OF YOU:

TIED: VAN HALEN I and BLIZZARD OF OZ

[GGKoul]

Plus the guy shot himself.. get over it.

[FractalWalk]

The Grunge music scene was around long before Nirvana and it's continued without them.

[GGKoul]

The Grunge music scene was around long before Nirvana and it's continued without them.

[RayB]

Plus the guy shot himself.. get over it.

[Shape D.]

But to me Nirvana doesn't belong in the "music gods" column in my book nor would I like to be stuck on a deserted island listening to Nirvana's Nevermind CD.

But if you look at who influenced a lot of the newer rock bands coming out now you'll find most of them were influenced by Kurt Cobain and Nirvana.

[Thenasty]

what da!  no SCORPIONS ? or Black Sabbath ?

[BUCKETHEAD]

The reason nobody wants to talk about the 90's is because the 90's

was the end of the TRUE ROCKSTARS.

AXL ROSE was the last true ROCKSTAR.

By that i mean ?

The kind of ROCKSTAR that people think of in their head.

Throwing TV's out the HOTEL windows.

Fighting

getting arrested    ETC.....

The only reason KURT COBAIN will become a legend is because his

life ended too early.  (By his own doing)

thus making you a shoe in to be a legend.


Most of the BANDS in the 90's and Now

have no idea what it is like to put on a real ROCK CONCERT.

Example:  You have FAN's sueing LIMP BIZKIT and CREED

They feel they got ripped off because they paid so much for a ticket

and received no kind of a show for their $$$$$


No band going today in my opinion will ever become legendary

Their are too many HERE today,  Gone tomorrow acts out there.

Flavor of the week acts.  If you will ?



If you wanna go see a real ROCK CONCERT go check out the

MOTLEY CRUE reunion tour going on right now.

That is a real ROCK CONCERT and worth every penny!

That is why it is #1 TOUR right now.


Also another good ALBUM and TOUR to catch is VELVET REVOLVER.


If you think about it?

It is pretty SAD that guys in their 40's are still selling out shows

and putting on better concerts than guys in their 20's


That should tell you something about the music scene today?




PS.    JANES ADDICTION  was and is WAAAAAAY  Better than  NIRVANVA ...


Thank you for your time.   

[BUCKETHEAD]

Here's a thought ?

Most popular bands of these DECADE'S 

60's   70's   80's   90's   2000's

Popular meaning: (Merchandise + Album Sales)



My picks


60's - THE BEATLES

70's - KISS

80's - MOTLEY CRUE

90's - PEARL JAM

2000's  -  No one stays popular long enough.

[GGKoul]

50's - Elvis
60's - Beatles/Elvis
70's - No clue...
80's - U2
90's - U2
00's - U2
 

[GGKoul]

Plus the guy shot himself.. get over it.

[Shape D.]

I listened to the show about Cobain conspiracy theories.  And I believe Country had something to do with his death as he was going to leave her... Regardless he's death...

You must really hate country music. and how did country music make Kurt Cobain the Grim Reaper?

[shmokes]

LOL....I hope you're kidding, Shape D., and realize that "Country" was a typo.

Yeah....I agree that the grunge thing was there.  And I think that Kurt Cobain was influenced more by Hole than the other way around.  But Nirvana is still the one's who brought it to the world.  Britney Spears is influenced by Nirvana.  Nirvana didn't invent grunge and maybe didn't even significantly reinvent it.  But after Nirvana nothing was the same.  They didn't just change grunge, they changed the entire pop music landscape.  That's how I feel about it.

[FractalWalk]

But to me Nirvana doesn't belong in the "music gods" column in my book nor would I like to be stuck on a deserted island listening to Nirvana's Nevermind CD.

Regardless of what your personal opinion of them are, I don't think you can discount the effect they had on music. I'm no huge Nirvana fan but their effect on the industry was monstrous.

They were the turn-key that caused new music and independent labels to explode. That "event" has forever changed the way music is produced.

The release of Nevermind basically killed overnight the existing pop music scene (thank God).

[Shape D.]

The release of Nevermind basically killed overnight the existing pop music scene (thank God). 

And the album was recorded in the town I live in. 

[GGKoul]

I listened to the show about Cobain conspiracy theories.

[DrewKaree]

My Favorite albums are:

........And oh yes!

9.  BUCKETHEAD  -  MONSTERS  &  ROBOTS     

So it was so good....that.....you.....for...got....it?

Now THAT'S an endorsement

[BUCKETHEAD]

I wish i could forget about every NIRVANA album!


 

[GGKoul]

But to me Nirvana doesn't belong in the "music gods" column in my book nor would I like to be stuck on a deserted island listening to Nirvana's Nevermind CD.

Regardless of what your personal opinion of them are, I don't think you can discount the effect they had on music. I'm no huge Nirvana fan but their effect on the industry was monstrous.

They were the turn-key that caused new music and independent labels to explode. That "event" has forever changed the way music is produced.

The release of Nevermind basically killed overnight the existing pop music scene (thank God).

[FractalWalk]

Pop Music is alive and well now.... and where is Grunge???

[DaveMMR]

First off I'm guilty of responding without reading the entire thread...

Nirvana's Nevermind was voted #2 of VH1's Top 100 Albums of All Time.  Great album?  Sure.  Overrated?  I think so.  Sorry, but there are a few songs that I can take or leave on the disk.  Also, I blame it for the overabundance of grunge that followed - which then led to the death of pop music in general.  Still ove the album, but I don't think of it as the second coming of Sgt. Pepper.

My favorite albums?  Moving Pictures by Rush, Whatever and Ever Amen by Ben Folds Five, Glass Houses by Billy Joel, the first three They Might Be Giants records, Oranges and Lemons by XTC, and for some reason, Dare by The Human League.  That's a ridulously short list - I have more.

[scooter]

Bob Dylan - Blood on the Tracks
Robin Trower - Bridge of Sighs
Pink Floyd - Animals
Dire Straits - Making Movies
Donald Fagen - The Nightfly

[FractalWalk]

I blame it for the overabundance of grunge that followed - which then led to the death of pop music in general.

[danny_galaga]

ok, looking in from internet cafes nowadays so i dont have tiome to read this thread carefully. are we still talking about best 90's albums? my nomination is:

Yes by Morphine

for the 80's it's:

Infected by Thethe

70's:

Transformer by Lou Reed

[Crazy Cooter]

I listen to a bunch of stuff, no favorite albums/bands or genre, it all depends on my mood:

Hendrix, Joplin, Doors, Johnny Cash, Willie, "Classical", Sha-na-na, John Denver, Elvis, Moody Blues, Metallica, Pink Floyd, Slayer, Black Flag, D.R.I., G.B.H., Sacred Reich, Ministry, Beatles, Randy Travis... the list is endless.

Currently, my car radio is set on a station that plays 50's, 60's, & 70's.  Has been for the past month or so (I don't have cd player in the truck).  In my car I only listen to mp3 cd-rw's.  The only thing I don't listen to is what's called "punk" lately: Blink 182 etc.  That stuff is like scratching blackboards.  I agree about the "showmanship" of current bands.  Metallica's Justice for All was a good show, Ministry's Filth Pig was a good show, G.B.H. always put on a good show but you had to watch what was being thrown at you from the stage(blood, puke, urine), Reverand Horton Heat is always a good show.  Back in my day, we used to come out of mosh pits with black eyes, bruises and smiles from ear to ear.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

And I think that Kurt Cobain was influenced more by Hole than the other way around.

*CHOKE* *COUGH* *Koff*.....WhAAAAAT?? I *HOPE* you're kidding?!? Have you ever LISTENED to the first Hole album? Courtney can't play guitar, she can't sing...she couldn't play a friggin' mechanical organ if she had to.

Billy Corgan  (Smashing Pumpkins) is the only reason 'Celebrity Skin' sounds any better than a feral cat in a rusty blender.

Kurt's early influences were Black Sabbath and The Beatles, later the Pixies. The band that influenced him the most was the Melvins though. He spent his teens hanging out with Buzz Osborne (Lead Singer/Guitar: Melvins) and even tried out for the band, playing drums.

Pop Music is alive and well now.... and where is Grunge???  Grunge died when Kurt blew his head off... as all bands are very commercialized now....

Kurt/Nirvana didn't destroy Pop Music....they destroyed cheese-ball metal hairbands (Thank god!) Pop music will never die, there's just too many people out there that need top-40 stuff.

However, Nirvana plowed a field that many bands play in today, bands that may not have had a chance before Nirvana blew the lid off commercial music. White Stripes, Hives, The Strokes, The Vines, Radiohead, Beck, etc....Nirvana made it safe to like the eclectic...and these bands have pointed to that fact in numerous interviews.

There is absolutely no denying it, whether you love or loath them, Nirvana are, a decade later, still regarded as the greatest and most legendary band of the 1990s. Take a trip to the Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame, they are referenced EVERYWHERE.

And finally, no..."all bands" are not commercialized. There is still plenty of great underground/indie music out there, you just have to look for it.

mrC

[mr.Curmudgeon]

I listened to the show about Cobain conspiracy theories.  And I believe Country had something to do with his death ....

ROFL!  I'd blow my head off too, if I was forced to listen to country music. hehe...

/I know you meant "Courtney"...and I think she had something to do with his death too.

mrC

[GGKoul]

A couple of things.. Metal hairbands are still one of the biggest touring bands around.  You can't say the same thing about "Grunge" bands.  Grunge is dying a slow death.. similar to Disco in the 70's.  In 10 years from now, will the 90's grunge bands still be selling out arenas?  I highly doubt it...

Also, Kurt wrote the 1st Hole album and Billy wrote the 2nd. Courtney sucks... 

Finally.. Have you ever visited the Rock'n Roll Museum in Cleveland??  99% of them WERE NOT influenced by Nirvana.  Most of those bands in the HoF influenced Nirvana, The White Stripes, Hives, The Strokes, The Vines, Radiohead, Beck...  And they will have a longer lasting effect on the revolution f Rock'n Roll then Nirvana ever did...

[DaveMMR]

Kurt/Nirvana didn't destroy Pop Music....they destroyed cheese-ball metal hairbands (Thank god!) Pop music will never die, there's just too many people out there that need top-40 stuff.

No, pop music still exists - but I said "destroyed" as in "it's horrible".  Even those who scoff as the 80's songs that are 90% image have to agree that even something as lame as Taco's 'Putting on the Ritz' is 100 times better that any stupid Spears/Aguilera/Simpson single.  That wasn't a hyperbole. 

Also, grunge didn't kill it directly.  It just started the chain reaction.

 

[FractalWalk]

Even those who scoff as the 80's songs that are 90% image have to agree that even something as lame as Taco's 'Putting on the Ritz' is 100 times better that any stupid Spears/Aguilera/Simpson single.

[GGKoul]

How can you say Grunge killed pop music?  Pop music probably outsold "grunge" music 2 to 1.

And the 90's saw some of the most popular "pop-bands" ever....

NSYNC
Backstreet Boys
Britney Spears
Spice Girls

The sad thing is that yesterday's grunge bands are selling out and releasing today's pop-songs.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

A couple of things.. Metal hairbands are still one of the biggest touring bands around.  You can't say the same thing about "Grunge" bands.  Grunge is dying a slow death.. similar to Disco in the 70's.  In 10 years from now, will the 90's grunge bands still be selling out arenas?  I highly doubt it...

That's not really a fair/honest comparison, as the nature of "alternative/indie/grunge" music was anti-establishment. Therefore, to begin with, the goal was not to sell-out arenas, and play radio-friendly pop tunes for the masses. Just as true "punk" will never be mainstream...

BTW, Grunge is a retarded marketing term created by the record industry...The spirit of that music is alive and well in some of today's biggest bands.

Finally.. Have you ever visited the Rock'n Roll Museum in Cleveland??  99% of them WERE NOT influenced by Nirvana.  Most of those bands in the HoF influenced Nirvana, The White Stripes, Hives, The Strokes, The Vines, Radiohead, Beck...  And they will have a longer lasting effect on the revolution f Rock'n Roll then Nirvana ever did...

Yes. I've been there, twice. Nirvana's influence on the music industry of today is unmistakable.
Of course Nirvana was influenced by earlier bands, that's not in debate. The point I was making is that bands of today, and the kids of today, who'll form the bands of tomorrow, will more than likely site Nirvana as an influence, over The Beatles and/or Black Sabbath.

Nirvana was/is a new benchmark in music. Whether you like them or not. That isn't just me saying that either. It's every music critic and/or producer since the early 90's.

A couple of things.. Metal hairbands are still one of the biggest touring bands around.

But only after they took off the makeup, cut their hair, and "grunged" up...the poseur mentality of arena-rock is gone. Nirvana changed the landscape. Look at Motley Crue, Bon Jovi, even Gn'R has "grunged" up as Velvet Revolver.
 
mrC

[Santoro]

for the 80's it's:

Infected by Thethe

Wow, I thought I was the only one that knew that song.

[Jabba]

Infected by Thethe

Hey Danny and Santoro....Wow, someone else who likes TheThe.
One of my favourites.
I have it in my MP3 collection.
I bought some of their other stuff, but nothing really compares to Infected.

[Shape D.]

Currently, my car radio is set on a station that plays 50's, 60's, & 70's.  Has been for the past month or so (I don't have cd player in the truck).  In my car I only listen to mp3 cd-rw's.  The only thing I don't listen to is what's called "punk" lately: Blink 182 etc.  That stuff is like scratching blackboards.

I would at this point in time like to point out blink 182 is NOT a punk band.

[GGKoul]

Currently, my car radio is set on a station that plays 50's, 60's, & 70's.

[Crazy Cooter]

I would at this point in time like to point out blink 182 is NOT a punk band.

Exactly.  Yet people mosh to it?  I think they made it on the warped tour before too, but I stopped going to that a long time ago.  Last one I went to had the Vandals & Social Distortion.

[Shape D.]

I would at this point in time like to point out blink 182 is NOT a punk band.

Exactly.  Yet people mosh to it?  I think they made it on the warped tour before too, but I stopped going to that a long time ago.  Last one I went to had the Vandals & Social Distortion.

The kids moshing to that crap are the kids who are being "punk" to either be "cool" or piss their parents off.

Punks not dead it just deserves to die when it becomes another stale cartoon

[Stingray]

Here's a thought ?

Most popular bands of these DECADE'S 

60's   70's   80's   90's   2000's

Popular meaning: (Merchandise + Album Sales)



My picks

...

70's - KISS

...

I presume that you're too young to actually remember the '70s. Sure KISS was popular, but disco was king. I'd say The Bee Gees were probably the most popular band of that particular decade.

-S

[HaRuMaN]

Great Albums... lets see...

Alice in Chains:  Jar of Flies, Dirt
Tool:  Aenima
Pearl Jam:  Ten

[Zero_Hour]

for the 80's it's:

Infected by Thethe

Wow, I thought I was the only one that knew that song.    I used to have a radio show on WDOM when I went to Providence College and I played it a lot.    That and "I can't Break Away" by Big Pig, 'Balloon Man' by Robin Hitchcock and the Egyptians, & 'Air Head' by Thomas Dolby.

Ah, the memories.     (Now I have to dig out the CDs I made from ten-year-old cassettes and listen again.)

More good stuff!

The The had some great albumns in the 90's too - Check out Dusk, and if you like Hank Williams (heck, even if you don't), check out Hanky Panky - some very interesting interpretations of some Hank classics.

-------------------

As for some of the other points raised.....(IMHO)

Blink 182 is not a PUNK band, nor are they a GRUNGE band - they are a LOUSY Band.

The reason that 80's "Hair Bands" are succsessfully touring now is the nostalgia factor. - Hell the last Motley Crue record I bought was Shout at The Devil, People are going to relive their youth, not to see muscial legends.

Pop music has and likely will remain largely disposable, with a few gems here and there. Britney and Christina are the Stacy Q / Samantha Fox of the now. Wait a while and the next contestants will be up for their shot.

And it has been my observation that 15 year olds with a few beers in them will pretty much mosh to anything 

[Thenasty]

" CUM on Feel the Noise "
"Why Me"

[danny_galaga]

Infected by Thethe

Hey Danny and Santoro....Wow, someone else who likes TheThe.
One of my favourites.
I have it in my MP3 collection.
I bought some of their other stuff, but nothing really compares to Infected.

yeah, the next album really couldnt cut it really. its nice to know there are others who like thethe. remember the video clip to 'slow train to dawn'? with nena cherry tied to the railway tracks? mmmmmm. or should i say- muwahahaha

[bigle]

And it has been my observation that 15 year olds with a few beers in them will pretty much mosh to anything 

i got dragged to an oasis concert once and saw a mosh pit break out there so i'll second that.

[RacerX]

I can't believe with all the children of the 80's on this board that nobody has mentioned:

Def Leppard - Pyromania
Def Leppard - Hysteria

[Thenasty]

I can't believe with all the children of the 80's on this board that nobody has mentioned:

there are alot more not mentioned...

The Clash
Styx
Rick Springfiled
Bryan Adams
The Cars
Krokus
Quiet Riot
Slade
Twisted Sister
RATT
and on and on and on....Cant' you see, I like all type of music 

Barry Manilow
Niel Diamond
lets not forget
Y&T
Zebra
Rainbow

and I know we are trying to avoid mentioned  MJ here.

[Santoro]

Zebra

YEAH!!!!

I loved Zebra.  I think they were mostly a Long Island phenomenon though. 

[Stingray]

RATT

Haven't thought about that band in ages! Yeah, Im embarassed to admit that I loved 'em.

-S

[SideShow Rob]

...and no mention of Neil Young

[DrewKaree]

....and yet, no one has mentioned Frank Yankovic or Lawrence Welk....c'mon guys, what about the CLASSICS!?!?!? 

[RacerX]

I still love RATT, and I'm *not* embarrassed to say it.  I have the last album they released in 1999 or so before their lead singer left.  It was simply called "RATT", and it was actually very good. 

[mr.Curmudgeon]

RATT???

No wonder the rant against Nirvana gets started here so easily...this place is full of disgruntled Metalheads!! 

mrC

[Shape D.]

RATT???

No wonder the rant against Nirvana gets started here so easily...this place is full of disgruntled Metalheads!! 

mrC

at least nobody started talking about how great warrant or poison are.

[Shape D.]

My Favorite albums are:

1.  KISS - DESTROYER
2.  MOTLEY CRUE - SHOUT AT THE DEVIL
3.  GUNS N ROSES - APPETITE FOR DESTRUCTION
4.  IRON MAIDEN - SOMEWHERE IN TIME
5. TWISTED SISTER - COME OUT AND PLAY
6. JANE'S ADDICTION - NOTHING'S SHOCKING
7. METALLICA - AND JUSTICE FOR ALL ...
8 . POISON - OPEN UP AND SAY AHH .....


In no paticular order except #1


 



And oh yes!



9.  BUCKETHEAD  -  MONSTERS  &  ROBOTS     

man I hate being wrong. And poison

[DrewKaree]

Night Damn Ranger Yankees are next!

Anyone have "Beer Barrel Polka" on CD?

I think everyone's gotta have an "Oompa Oompa" type polka band on their jukebox.  Something nice and German....with an accordian, preferably.

[Shape D.]

I've always ben partial to I wanna polka by The Ivan Offelcockich Orchestra

[Thenasty]

yey !! lets do the "Hava Nagila"   

[DrewKaree]

I've always ben partial to I wanna polka by The Ivan Offelcockich Orchestra

Shhhut Up, Beavis!

[DrewKaree]

.....and you said "Offelcockich"....heh hehheh huh heh heh

[danny_galaga]

Great Albums... lets see...

Alice in Chains:

[RacerX]

RATT???

No wonder the rant against Nirvana gets started here so easily...this place is full of disgruntled Metalheads!! 

mrC

I don't say anything negative about Nirvana, per se.  I personally don't like their music, but I think it's pretty much because they were the first really popular band to come along after I started getting so old that I didn't understand the stuff the "kids" were listening to.   

[FractalWalk]

RATT???

No wonder the rant against Nirvana gets started here so easily...this place is full of disgruntled Metalheads!!

[DaveMMR]

Nothing against Nirvana here either.  I just think Nevermind is just a teensie-tiny bit overrated.

...so is Pet Sounds.  But that's a diffrerent topic...

Nevermind, though, was a cool album (it was only the 2nd CD I ever owned... the first being The Wall) and at the time it was different, raw, full of energy and angst and, as such, was a nice change from the cheesy hair metal bands, the lame hip-hop acts (the in-between period of rap when it was all gimmicky, lightweight rhymes... watch "Fear of a Black Hat" for further info), and the faltering pop scene.  Then MTV took the alternative sound, played it in heavy rotation (this was still at a time when MTV was playing videos more often than tripe) and commercialized it to the point where every song on the album was "the millionenth time you heard it this week". 

Suddenly, all these grunge bands came out of the woodwork and for every Pearl Jam there were a handful of 'also-rans' sporting an unwashed look and a healthy contempt for establishment.  I don't blame Cobain and Co. for this, but Nevermind, ultimately, did not age well in my opinion.

...neither did Pet Sounds.  But I won't drag the Beach Boys into this.

Well, anyway, I'm 2 cents poorer.

[RacerX]

Yeah, I'll never be one to call RATT, Poison, Warrant, et. al. "Heavy Metal".  They are 80's hair bands.  I just happen to *like* 80's hair bands since I came of age in the 80's.

[DrewKaree]

Actually, I can visualize Lemmy doing "Talk Dirty To Me", but doing so in a far FAR different way than Poison did it, and having it sound good.

The 80's could have influenced people in many different ways, and hair bands were simply one of 'em.

A nice diversion, they were.

[quarterback]

I loved Zebra.

[Knievel]

Anything by Steel Dragon.

I'll throw in my support for HEAVY METAL *insert devil's-hand thingy here*
And I'm talking about the glitzy, bighair, pyro-packed, whammy-bar lovin' metal.

All those bands passed through here in the 80's-early 90's and I saw every one of them. I still go to a lot of concerts but nothing compares to those shows.

CRUE next month, sold out in every city up here...and we've got a big-ass new arena...gonna SHAKE.

[Goz]

Here's a good conspiracy page for Cobain

Being married to Courtney Love, wouldn't you kill yourself too?


On a lighter note...

Old joke from just after he passed:
Q: What color eye's did Kurt Cobain have?

[RacerX]

Here are a couple of "good" hair bands for you.

White Lion
Winger

 

[Shape D.]

hey what ever happened to Great White. 











I have added not wanting to burn to death onto my list of 63 reasons to not see a Great White show.

[Knievel]

Going to see Great White tomorrow night actually.
They donate a portion of their proceeds to the victims/families of that fire at their show 2 years ago.

Love White Lion, Mike Tramp was through here not long ago.
www.miketramp.com

[quarterback]

Love White Lion, Mike Tramp was through here not long ago.
www.miketramp.com

I thought I was the only one to have heard of Mike Tramp. 

I saw him in southern Ohio in 2000 or 2001.  He did a couple WLion songs but was trying to get away from it to play his original stuff.  I liked the show a lot and every 6 months or so I think about trying to locate the CD to buy it.   I talked to the guitarist afterwards (can't remember his name) and talked music for a while.  He was very cool, but Mike never came out from backstage.   I think he was annoyed at a couple bozos who kept yelling "Play Radar Love!" (which I personaly don't even like WL's version of)

[Knievel]

He's in Cleveland tomorrow if you're near there...ya I was peeking at your profile