*edited* Democracy, what is it good for?

[fredster]

I love this one.

57000 complaints from people who believe their rights have been violated

according to my calculations, that's .000487 of the population. That means that 99.951% said it was good. Which should I pay attention to? Out of 2000 people, 1 says he didn't like his experience. Wow, that's pretty good. I bet McDonalds what's that ratio.  I know GM would like that too.

Again, I will say that if there was a shread of real evidence that you're alligations are right, I'd be right here condemming Bush and the republicans for scamming us. But you know what? There is no real shread of evidence that it's real.

There is more evidence that UFOs are real than this. At least with UFO's we have pictures and sketches.

I have two words for you - "red" and "herring".

And I like this one -

Democracy begins at home. If the allegations are not investigated fully then I guess you will just have to accept that you live in a faschist dictatorship.

  I don't think you even know what "faschist" means.  Plus, are you even from America?  I know lots of people Dexter, and most of them I talked to voted Bush because they believed in him.

There was a couple of my very good friends that voted for Kerry. I have collected my bets with them, one was for $5. and one was for a steak dinner. We had a wonderful conversations about the election.

The Ukraine voted as well remember 

  There is no comparison with that election and our own Dexter. It's comparing Apples to Oranges.  In our election we didn't have government vans full of people going from town to town voting.  If we did there would have been lots of vans.

If you are a citizen of the US and you feel that the election wasn't valid, then just go to the local media and go to your election board and complain. Complain all you want and provide evidence all you want.

But if you are wrong, will you accept the result?  I thought the same thing when Clinton won in '92 and again in '96. But I have faith that we were not rail-roaded.  I feel the same way now and I would have accepted Senator Kerry as our President if he were elected.

[Shape D.]

I love this one.

57000 complaints from people who believe their rights have been violated

according to my calculations, that's .000487 of the population. That means that 99.951% said it was good.

Not everyone who has a problem with the way the government is run will voice their problems with it. Not that I'm trying to argue with your political views but assuming 99.951% don't have a problem is flat out wrong.

[Dexter]

Again, I will say that if there was a shread of real evidence that you're alligations are right, I'd be right here condemming Bush and the republicans for scamming us. But you know what? There is no real shread of evidence that it's real.

So, You can take a country to war on dodgy evidence and kill 100,000 people but debunk other evidence, without even knowing what it is, which could save your democratic process?? Republican double standards again.

So I take it you are privvy to the evidence submitted by the Green party and others so far, and have investigated it yourself. To say there is no real shred of evidence is jumping the gun. Let it run its course, the democrats aren't the ones acting like they've something to hide. Everybody knows this election stinks of fraud.

I suppose that only other countries exit polls can be ointed to to indicate possible fraud. Guess the fact that the exit polls were spot on where there were paper ballots but WAAAAY of where there was electronic voting is just another wild coincidence. Hmmm, one might get the impression that all the coincidences and mounting evidence JUST might call into question the results. But NO. If it was the republicans demanding investigations it would be all over the mainstream media and heads would be rolling right now.

Just read this...interesting video clip too!
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/122404X.shtml

"The mounting evidence of election tampering by Triad representatives has motivated 2004 Presidential candidate John Kerry to join with Green Party and Libertarian Party representatives in their Ohio recount effort. John Kerry will file today, in the United States District Court for the Southern District of Ohio, papers in support of the Green Party/Libertarian Party recount effort. Specifically, Kerry will be filing a request for expedited discovery regarding Triad Systems voting machines, as well as a motion for a preservation order to protect any and all discovery and preserve any evidence on this matter."

[Dartful Dodger]

If it was the republicans demanding investigations it would be all over the mainstream media and heads would be rolling right now.

[fredster]

Guess the fact that the exit polls were spot on where there were paper ballots but WAAAAY of where there was electronic voting is just another wild coincidence

Guess you know that the exit polls were "spot on" huh.

So, You can take a country to war on dodgy evidence and kill 100,000 people but debunk other evidence,

Maybe one country Dexter, but you have to explain to me why the UK and Austraila didn't balk at it. I don't think even the UN disputed the evidence at the time.

So I take it you are privvy to the evidence submitted by the Green party and others so far, and have investigated it yourself. To say there is no real shred of evidence is jumping the gun.

No. I haven't. Have you? Have you interviewed the people involved? "truthout.org" disagrees with the "drudgreport". 

What about the NYT ? How about the LAT ? I guess these newspapers are in the pocket of the vast right wing conspiracy too huh?

If there was evidence Dexter, they would have pushed it forward.

I don't think that all the voting machines started having a red glow and all march to the beat of some central computer.  I don't think one broke ranks and called itself "sonny". 

In the states that Kerry won Dexter, didn't they use the same machines? Come on.

I ask again, are you from America? 

[Mameotron]

Dexter,

As Drew pointed out earlier, why didn't you complain about unfair elections until your guy lost?

[Dexter]

I ask again, are you from America?

[fredster]

Fine Dexter, fine.

I didn't know you weren't an American. Believe what you want. I don't care. Rant all you want from Ireland.

I'm done with this thread. It's pointless.

[Trenchbroom]

Everyone who has posted needs to read this book:


http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=tF0AOAKAHN&isbn=0446532681&itm=1

Got it for Xmas--absolutely hilarious!