IQ vs Election Results

[TA Pilot]

I second that!!  Great stuff, did you make that up yourself?

www.protestwarrior.com

[Mameotron]

DUHH!  The big banner on the bottom of the picture might have been my first clue...

Thanks.

[LeedsFan]

Just another note on Mr C's last post......tough run country huH?  do you know the publisher of the Daily Mirror is the owner of Fox News?   The evil conservative media outlet??

That's wrong I'm afraid.... Rupert Murdoch has ties with The Sun and Fox News.... not The Daily Mirror.

[Crazy Cooter]

Why do people even go to sites like protest warriors?  Do you think you're going to find accurate information when the first page has wording like:
"local islamo-fascist sympathizers"
"their school's sinister thought police"
"hatefest "
"our supreme values of liberty and justice "

If you want to know what this country stands for, look to the people that created it.
"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself." -- Thomas Paine

You think you're 10 o'clock newscast is biased... at least they try (and might slip in an actual fact or two).

[mr.Curmudgeon]

People go to sites like that in order to continually reaffirm the notion that their views are right. Makes 'em feel better I suppose.

[rchadd]

Actually... my I.Q. has been officially tested at 132. I could have joined Mensa if I'd wanted. I live in the UK..... and I fully support President Bush and I'm so pleased at his magnificent victory!

If people need to dig up stats like this then they'd be better off working for the BBC..... or the Daily Mirror...... or living iin France!!!

you're a Leeds supporter with a 132 IQ!  really? gobsmacked  

personally, i would love to live in France - must be my celtic blood

[rchadd]

If you want to know what this country stands for, look to the people that created it.

do you mean the genocide that was perpetrated against the native american indians?

[TA Pilot]

Why do people even go to sites like protest warriors?

Because they have a lot of cool stuff - especially if you want to irk a leftist.

[Mameotron]

do you mean the genocide that was perpetrated against the native american indians?

What about the long history of genocide perpetrated by the British Empire?

[TA Pilot]

do you mean the genocide that was perpetrated against the native american indians?

Do you mean from 1608-1791 or 1791-1900?

[rchadd]

do you mean the genocide that was perpetrated against the native american indians?

What about the long history of genocide perpetrated by the British Empire?

british history is nothing to be proud about. i am not disputing that.

[SirPoonga]

I was listening to the radio yesterday about how NY has their own view on the world and can't understand why Bush was re-elected.  They don;t understand why you'd allow anyone in ofice that allowed their city to be attacked.

The county map does shows that high population areas support Kerry.  Being someone who lives out in the country I understand supporting Bush vs Kerry.  Bush has a better country living point of view.

For example, a big issue is guns.  Yeah, in high populated areas you don't need guns so pepople there are going to support someone who is againsts guns.  Out in the country you are going to have more reasons to own gun, including more hunters.  Kerry was against guns so that's one issue against him vs Bush.
There are many agricultural issues too and such.

[patrickl]

The county map does shows that high population areas support Kerry.  Being someone who lives out in the country I understand supporting Bush vs Kerry.  Bush has a better country living point of view.

For example, a big issue is guns.  Yeah, in high populated areas you don't need guns so pepople there are going to support someone who is againsts guns.  Out in the country you are going to have more reasons to own gun, including more hunters.  Kerry was against guns so that's one issue against him vs Bush.
There are many agricultural issues too and such.

Wouldn't religion and homophobia be much more an issue out in the country too?

[fredster]

This thread has broken down into nonsense again.  

I haven't seen the opinion poll from the extra terristrials yet.  I hope Patrickl can phone home and get us one.  It has as much relevance.

Why don't we turn our attention to Japan or Russia?  Do they have any elections comming up?

rchadd's people are going to back Blair again.  Howard came back for the Aussies, and Bush is back in the good ole USA.

We are kind of set for a few more years.  It's been nice, lets do it again in 2008.

[patrickl]

I haven't seen the opinion poll from the extra terristrials yet.  I hope Patrickl can phone home and get us one.  It has as much relevance.

I phoned for a map of the Galaxy and over the whole Galaxy there was a lot of support for Kerry. Apparently there was only a tiny fraction of the population on a single planet where people voted for Bush:

[GGKoul]

I found this...

[nipsmg]

not like I put any stock in these numbers... but...

Connecticut is the smartest!! YAY!  

(that statistic is hilarious to me, living in CT)

[patrickl]

I found this...

In the first message of this thread?

[GGKoul]

Yes, but it's in a nice graphic now...  

[RacerX]

The most important line on that graphic is at the bottom.

This data has been published in the Economist and the St. Petersburg Times, though this does not mean it should be taken as fact.

[krick]

Here's one to make you think.  Because of the way that the electoral college works, a Wyoming voter has almost four times the clout as one in Texas, California, or Florida:

http://www.instantrunoff.org/analysis/analysis_ei.html#anchor_ei

[DrewKaree]

Here's one to make you think.  Because of the way that the electoral college works, a Wyoming voter has almost four times the clout as one in Texas, California, or Florida:

You're right.  It DID make me think.

It made me think - who else is in a similar position as WY.  So I looked at the map a bit.  Then, I was made to think something else.  Why is it that WY is portrayed as having all that much more clout, when there's a few other "yellow" states in a similar position.  You probably just "missed" the correlation of all these states being in similar positions:  NH, VT, ME, RI, DE, DC, CT.  Actually, the site you lifted that phrase from "missed" it.

What I was especially intrigued about was why you chose WY to compare those states to, when you can clearly see a STRIKING similarity with VT, and a similar comparison between some of those states.....once again, you help to demonstrate why we have an electoral college, and how it is readily apparent why we need this system.

Oh, I also notice you didn't happen to compare the electoral votes of CA to WY.  Would that help to further demonstrate why your "results" are more than a bit skewed?  Wyoming has how many electoral votes again?  Was that 3?  Hey, let's take a looky at how many CA has.  HOLY CRAP!  55 electoral votes?!?!?  

So by giving (to use your words) "almost four times the clout" there is the possibility to win....um......less than 1% of CA's vote? The skewing of power results in the massive addition of ....  3  .........that's right, THREE.......electoral votes.  Simply staggering  

As a simple investigation would unearth, the only "fair" solution using current electoral college setups, as I see it, would be to INCREASE Texas' electoral college votes, because according to that website, Texas is more sorely UNDERrepresented than CA.

More votes in TX?  Wonder if the winning margin would have been even larger than it was.  What would THAT mean?

Each side seems to see magical results in "stats" they cull from spurious studies and polls.

Under the system which was good enough to elect Carter, Reagan, Bush, and Clinton, W won.  I had to live through 8 years of Clinton, now I have to live with 8 years of Bush.  One way sucked for me, the other way doesn't.  I'm still alive, the country is still in one piece - your chance to change the States is over, until you GET over it and can honestly look at why you lost, you're destined to continue to get the same results - each and every time.

Talk about divisive  The unwillingness to accept that you lost and start to work towards getting your message accepted in 2 years only solidifies the 51% and the thought that they did the right thing and stopped your sour attitude from tainting the country they love.

[DrewKaree]

51% of America is so bass-ackwards they voted to keep the man they think is doing a bang-up job in office!  The 49% is going to have to do some breeding with the imbeciles to even out the proportions - it's only 2%, and I bet there's at LEAST 5% that ISN'T fugly enough to procreate with, so if that 49% gets crackin' they can change the tide next time....I heard it on TV that the dumber you are, the less it takes to control your mind and change it to the prevailing view....the "smarties" only have to get in the pants of the dopes, which shouldn't be too hard.

So 49% are smart AND good looking.  51% are dumb as rocks, with (let's just say) 50% of the dopes being good looking.  Someone draw me up a map so I can use it for "proof" of my idea    I'll then demonstrate how, through sheer "smahts, Jen-nee", you guys can turn this country from over half dumb ugly simpletons to over half enlightened good looking weiners...er...winners

If you guys weren't so "smart", your brains wouldn't be getting in the way of you figuring out this stellar solution yourselves  

[TA Pilot]

Here's one to make you think.  Because of the way that the electoral college works, a Wyoming voter has almost four times the clout as one in Texas, California, or Florida:

This is because the states, not the people, elect the President.

What do you think of the Senate, where the people of WY are even MORE over-represented?


We dont live in a democracy, folks.   Its a representative republic.   In our federal system, the people of smaller states have ALWAYS been over-represented - so the people of the larger states cant simply bend them over and take whaveter they want.

[locash]

I don't think krick was attacking WY (although he might have been), rather I think his point was that the electoral college is flawed.  If you accept the notion that our representative government is important to protect the minority from a tryannical majority(and I do), it is clear that a vote in WY should have more weight than a single vote in TX, CA, FL.  However, what is not clear to me is why a WY vote should have more weight than a CO, ID or SD vote.

Incidently, it is somewhat amusing that the representative republic comes to the defense of the electoral college, while the will of the majority is sufficient to suppress gay marriage.