Author Topic: Stand up build - "The Mongrel" (Read 24531 times)

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #40 on:** November 07, 2015, 06:50:55 pm »

Side and front vinyl is installed, got the aimtrack set up last night. Noticed a lot of games in HLSL were struggling, choppy, etc. Same with Demul emulator for Naomi/atomiswave. Decided to upgrade the ol' video card. Hopefully this is all I need. (once you go HLSL you don't go back!)

Here are my specs up to date
i5 650 dual core 4 thread processor
8gb ddr3ram
250gb hdd with windows 7
and EVGA GTX 950 2gbddr5 ram GPU

Gotta get started on the CP wiring tonight I think. Will post some pics once I get closer to completion.

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #41 on:** November 08, 2015, 10:59:17 am »

Some pics with the vinyl on the sides, and a temporary control panel. Really thinking of going with chrome t molding.

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #42 on:** November 08, 2015, 04:13:33 pm »

Should I bother updating anymore? Seriously no replies?

05SRT4 · « **Reply #43 on:** November 08, 2015, 04:42:23 pm »

Quote from: Frank Drebin on November 08, 2015, 04:13:33 pm

Should I bother updating anymore? Seriously no replies?

Sorry, let me drop everything and pay attention to this build.

Looks neat.

Keep up the good work

Chrome T-Molding would look really good on this.

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #44 on:** November 08, 2015, 04:53:46 pm »

Quote from: 05SRT4 on November 08, 2015, 04:42:23 pm

Quote from: Frank Drebin on November 08, 2015, 04:13:33 pm
Should I bother updating anymore? Seriously no replies?

Sorry, let me drop everything and pay attention to this build.

Looks neat.

Keep up the good work

Chrome T-Molding would look really good on this.

Thanks for the input.

wp34 · « **Reply #45 on:** November 08, 2015, 07:01:35 pm »

That vinyl looks like it turned out very good. How does it look in person? Was it hard to apply?

I'm not a big fan of chrome t-molding but it might look really good on your cabinet to go along with that other silver.

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #46 on:** November 08, 2015, 09:48:24 pm »

Hey, the vinyl went on really good, very similar to applying side graphics, but easier to get the bubbles out. As for how it looks, I think it really depends on the colour, or more importantly, the texture. The sides look reallly good but the black center shows every, I mean EVERY imperfection through. I would stick to the carbon fibre patterns from now on. even after wet sanding with 1500 I still see imperfections.

I do have a guy from another forum working on a control panel overlay/marquee/ and a matching kick panel so I think it will turn out pretty good. Chrome T molding is on order. Thought the gunmetal would pop a bit more than it does and the black T molding is just "meh". Maybe I'll pick up some tinted plexi for the bezel tomorrow.

Thanks for the reply/interest BTW. I know people like to look but its a little discouraging to keep updating when there are literally zero replies.

seventone · « **Reply #47 on:** November 08, 2015, 09:51:36 pm »

Looks nice! Some chrome t molding would look good too.

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #48 on:** November 08, 2015, 10:14:48 pm »

Quote from: seventone on November 08, 2015, 09:51:36 pm

Looks nice! Some chrome t molding would look good too.

Thanks! Have some left over material from my bartop for a chrome marquee holder as well. Just doesn't pop enough with the colors we have now and black t mold.

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #49 on:** November 10, 2015, 04:27:06 pm »

Control panel: (I'm not doing it myself

)

vwalbridge · « **Reply #50 on:** November 10, 2015, 04:34:35 pm »

I LOVE Hyperspin.

...but I wouldn't personally put any of its logos or slogans anywhere on my cab. Does this also mean you are using Hyperspin decals for your marquee and side art?

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #51 on:** November 10, 2015, 04:57:57 pm »

Quote from: vwalbridge on November 10, 2015, 04:34:35 pm

I LOVE Hyperspin.

...but I wouldn't personally put any of its logos or slogans anywhere on my cab. Does this also mean you are using Hyperspin decals for your marquee and side art?

Yes. I know its not a popular idea around here, but love the system, and the colors really pop. I didn't want to build it around a particular game as Street Fighter/Mortal Kombat and all the 'Cades are overdone, but I wanted some type of theme to go with. I figure I'll probably spend more time configuring hyperspin than actually playing the games so why not.

I'm just doing a control panel and marquee. No side art. Trying to keep it more furniture, less arcade.

Any reason why you wouldn't put HS on your build?

vwalbridge · « **Reply #52 on:** November 10, 2015, 05:11:45 pm »

Quote from: Frank Drebin on November 10, 2015, 04:57:57 pm

Trying to keep it more furniture, less arcade.

Well then I don't see too much furniture with diamond plating and coin mechs.

(Just giving you a hard time of course)

Quote

Any reason why you wouldn't put HS on your build?

The artwork on an arcade cab typically represents the game(s) that can be played on it. Or at least invokes the feeling or theme of games that can be played on it. (ie fighting games, classic games, shmups, or driving games) Therefore, when I see Hyperspin art, it doesn't narrow it down for me or invoke any kind or specific feeling of games this cab can play. In other words, Hyperpin isn't a game you play on this cab. It's just the front end.

This scenario is somewhat similar for me when I see the MAME logo on a cab. It's just a little too generic for me.

I totally get that you don't want to just repeat some overdone Street Fighter artwork but I've seen plenty of builders come up with something never done before.

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #53 on:** November 10, 2015, 05:13:22 pm »

Quote from: vwalbridge on November 10, 2015, 05:11:45 pm

Quote from: Frank Drebin on November 10, 2015, 04:57:57 pm
Trying to keep it more furniture, less arcade.

Well then I don't see too much furniture with diamond plating and coin mechs. (Just giving you a hard time of course)

Quote
Any reason why you wouldn't put HS on your build?

The artwork on an arcade cab typically represents the game(s) that can be played on it. Or at least invokes the feeling or theme of games that can be played on it. (ie fighting games, classic games, shmups, or driving games) Therefore, when I see Hyperspin art, it doesn't narrow it down for me or invoke any kind or specific feeling of games this cab can play. In other words, Hyperpin isn't a game you play on this cab. It's just the front end.

This scenario is somewhat similar for me when I see the MAME log on a cab. It's just a little too generic for me.

I totally get that you don't want to just repeat some overdone Street Fighter artwork but I've seen plenty of builders come up with something never done before.

My last machine had a MAME marquee. Go figure. This is a MAME cabinet that will be used for laser gun games, golden tee, console classics, fighting games, and whatever else. Like I said, I couldn't make up my mind - and I don't particularly favor one over the other.

vwalbridge · « **Reply #54 on:** November 10, 2015, 05:30:12 pm »

Quote from: Frank Drebin on November 10, 2015, 05:13:22 pm

This is a MAME cabinet that will be used for laser gun games, golden tee, console classics, fighting games, and whatever else. Like I said, I couldn't make up my mind - and I don't particularly favor one over the other.

Yea, if you are going to play everything but the kitchen sink on this cab, then narrowing down a theme is hard.

Have you thought about playing Golden Tee on that tight-proximity control panel?

Also, your artwork has 6 button outlines but I counted 7 buttons on your actual build pictures.

yotsuya · « **Reply #55 on:** November 10, 2015, 05:32:10 pm »

I dunno, something "mongrel"-ly might be nice...

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #56 on:** November 10, 2015, 05:34:38 pm »

Quote from: vwalbridge on November 10, 2015, 05:30:12 pm

Quote from: Frank Drebin on November 10, 2015, 05:13:22 pm
This is a MAME cabinet that will be used for laser gun games, golden tee, console classics, fighting games, and whatever else. Like I said, I couldn't make up my mind - and I don't particularly favor one over the other.

Yea, if you are going to play everything but the kitchen sink on this cab, then narrowing down a theme is hard.

Have you thought about playing Golden Tee on that tight-proximity control panel?

Also, your artwork has 6 button outlines but I counted 7 buttons on your actual build pictures.

Ya last machine had a very similarly sized control panel. You definitely can't play in the traditional sense - but you can fling the trackball pretty good with both thumbs. Played a few games.

Yes, that control panel from the pics is going in the garbage. The 7th button just made things confusing (last build had the infamous

I totally get what you're saying about the theme of the build. I just can't commit.

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #57 on:** November 10, 2015, 05:37:22 pm »

Quote from: yotsuya on November 10, 2015, 05:32:10 pm

I dunno, something "mongrel"-ly might be nice...

I thought we agreed on a prairie dog theme. I'm not committing a lot of money to the hyperspin theme so whenever someone teaches me photoshop (ha ha) maybe I can do a mongrel theme. Good idea actually. (google images provides poor inspiration on this lol, I'm thinking more rabid dog than heinz 57)

PL1 · « **Reply #58 on:** November 10, 2015, 06:46:30 pm »

Quote from: Frank Drebin on November 10, 2015, 05:37:22 pm

I'm thinking more rabid dog than heinz 57

For some reason Foamy the Freakadog from Freakazoid! leaps to mind.

Scott

DrZhark · « **Reply #59 on:** November 19, 2015, 09:44:12 am »

I really like how neat the control panel looks.

As for artwork... it is a hard decision but my RetroBox cab changed tremendously after I installed the artwork. I have no regrets on going bold with colors and what not.. The way I see it, it is a modern Arcade Machine for personal use and to inspire awe so the wow factor should be there. It is going to stand out even if you try to disguise it as 'furniture'

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #60 on:** November 19, 2015, 08:11:10 pm »

Quote from: DrZhark on November 19, 2015, 09:44:12 am

I really like how neat the control panel looks.

As for artwork... it is a hard decision but my RetroBox cab changed tremendously after I installed the artwork. I have no regrets on going bold with colors and what not.. The way I see it, it is a modern Arcade Machine for personal use and to inspire awe so the wow factor should be there. It is going to stand out even if you try to disguise it as 'furniture'

Na I agree. I look at mine with the vinyl and it just looks so flat, so plain. There was a cab that had this bright blue artwork and it looked amazing.

I'll find something for the sides. Not sure when though.

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #61 on:** November 24, 2015, 12:59:52 am »

A little progress to report.

Got my Control panel/admin panel artwork today. Artwork courtesy of Sub Zero on Hyperspin forums. Quite a talented guy.

Installed the admin panel:

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #62 on:** November 24, 2015, 01:04:54 am »

Frank Drebin, on 23 Nov 2015 - 10:54 PM, said:
Some pics of the monitor mounting. Basically just sits on the wood brace at the bottom and against the battens at the back. Plexi bezel rests against it on the top. Not secured in any fashion and I really don't see a need to. If I'm going to haul it up the stairs I'll just remove the bezel and the monitor.

And some construction paper behind the tinted plexi to black out everything that isn't the screen.

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #63 on:** November 24, 2015, 01:07:01 am »

And chrome T molding with led strip lights on the back side of the coin door kick panel. I bought a couple RGB deck lights (3/4") that I plan to mount under the control panel and remove the strip lighting for a more subtle (downlight) lighting effect.

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #64 on:** November 24, 2015, 07:11:55 pm »

I think I blew my power supply today for the PC. I'd move the pc around and there appeared to be a loose connection at the inlet module. I'd hear a sort of sparking (poor connection) and the PC would shut down. Today I went to wake the PC from sleep and it was frozen and wouldn't power on. The power supply smelled a little burney so I'm pretty sure (and hopeful) that that is the problem.

Ordered this guy from amazon.

EVGA 500W 80+ (tell me it will be fine please)

http://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00H33SFJU/ref=pe_386430_30332290_TE_3p_dp_1

mgb · « **Reply #65 on:** November 25, 2015, 05:43:15 pm »

This cab is looking good

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #66 on:** November 26, 2015, 10:21:58 am »

Thanks MGB. Your retrace cab is amazing BTW.

So....question for you guys. Ordered the J-Stick ball top from Ultimarc (Sanwa JLW-TM-8 type) and is currently under mounted in a 3/4" MDF control panel. Routing the depth is not an option.

Even under a 1/2" panel these joysticks seemed stubby/short. Should a guy look for a bat-top that would lengthen the joystick? Or should I buy the extensions? I don't really care which it is bat vs ball.

Also, recieved the leaf-pro joystick from GGG for the dedicated 4way. How do I install this thing? Do I have to remove the entire joystick or does the ball screw off?

Thanks

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #67 on:** November 26, 2015, 10:35:31 am »

Quick update on the build:

Ordered 3/4" chrome angle plastic for the marquee retainer. Just verifying the artwork before getting it printed off.

Finishing up on the hyperspin build. A guy has to draw a line in the sand on how many systems he wants or else it will consume you. I have most of the arcade systems that will actually be played on the machine, plus the consoles that I grew up with that will also be played on the machine but will be played via PS3 controller not on the control panel, plus a few systems that I neither grew up with or want to play but more of a show off factor such as game gear, atari lynx, game boy, etc.

Having good luck with retroarch and the internal overlays vs using the rocketlauncher bezels.

yamatetsu · « **Reply #68 on:** November 26, 2015, 12:11:37 pm »

Quote from: Frank Drebin on November 26, 2015, 10:21:58 am

So....question for you guys. Ordered the J-Stick ball top from Ultimarc (Sanwa JLW-TM-8 type) and is currently under mounted in a 3/4" MDF control panel. Routing the depth is not an option.

Even under a 1/2" panel these joysticks seemed stubby/short.

I had the same problem, no router but I wanted to top mount my UltraStiks. I used a slightly thinner piece of wood for the CP and top mounted the sticks using screws with a flat head. So now the joystick plates and the screw heads stuck out for about 4 millimeters. Since I had leftovers of 2 mm lexan, I took two sheets, cut out / drilled the joystick rectangles and the button holes and put those onto the CP. Now I had a level surface on which to put the CPO. A nice benefit of this method is that I could use screws with nuts, so I didn't have to use t-nuts or inserts.

Pics (don't mind the strange layout, that has changed after a lively discussion) :

CP without lexan :

CP with lexan :

Underside :

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #69 on:** November 26, 2015, 12:30:45 pm »

Is that the CP from your Clint build? Interesting solution for the top mounting but mine are already bottom mounted, T nuts are installed and bondo'd over. Just want to extend the joystick "sticks".

mgb · « **Reply #70 on:** November 26, 2015, 12:52:58 pm »

I like how you handled the admin panel. Very nice

yamatetsu · « **Reply #71 on:** November 26, 2015, 01:07:08 pm »

Quote from: Frank Drebin on November 26, 2015, 12:30:45 pm

Is that the CP from your Clint build? Interesting solution for the top mounting but mine are already bottom mounted, T nuts are installed and bondo'd over. Just want to extend the joystick "sticks".

Yep, that's a very early version for Clint. The idea was to top mount the sticks to eliminate the need for longer shafts.

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #72 on:** November 26, 2015, 03:21:42 pm »

So they have adapters to go from ball top to bat top. I think the bat should give an extra 1/2" or so to the top which should be good.

http://www.gameroutfitters.com/SANWA_LB_30_N_S_Bat_Top_Black_p/gosa-bat-k-lb30ns.htm

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #73 on:** November 28, 2015, 01:23:34 am »

lol.

So I get the power supply today, like I said I don't know too much about this stuff. I saw in the pics from amazon there was no shortage of connection types on the new power supply, which is nice because the old power supply only had 3 outlets which all went into the motherboard and no extra molex outlets, just Sata.

Anyways I guess HP computers have a specific type of power supply, that uses a 6 pin "auxiliary" port, which of course isn't on most aftermarket PSu's (and of course not on the one I ordered). Thought I was going to have to buy another power supply but fortunately there is an adapter that you can buy. It is interesting that the HP power supply doesn't have a 20 or 24 port plug on it.

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #74 on:** November 29, 2015, 12:40:44 am »

Got the decals on the CP. Won't put the vinyl on the sides till I get the snap in buttons. Will likely have to bore out the holes a bit.

mgb · « **Reply #75 on:** November 29, 2015, 10:04:34 am »

While I'm not a huge fan of incorporating the front end name into the artwork, I really like this build.
I like the layout of everything. The artwork looks really good.

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #76 on:** December 02, 2015, 11:54:43 am »

Started wiring up the Control panel, The Ipac ultimate IO is a nice all in one solution but they kinda hose you on connectors if you want RGB buttons not supplied by Ultimarc.

$12 plus shipping for a 9 RGB harness??

Bought a bunch of these from the bay instead. Hope they work.

wp34 · « **Reply #77 on:** December 02, 2015, 12:44:29 pm »

This is coming together real nice. I like the artwork and admin panel. I sometimes wish I had my volume control more accessible as I tend to mess with it a lot.

These pictures reminded me of my basement. An almost finished cabinet with PC equipment falling out the back

Quote from: Frank Drebin on November 29, 2015, 12:40:44 am

Frank Drebin · « **Reply #78 on:** December 02, 2015, 01:16:28 pm »

Quote from: wp34 on December 02, 2015, 12:44:29 pm

This is coming together real nice. I like the artwork and admin panel. I sometimes wish I had my volume control more accessible as I tend to mess with it a lot.

These pictures reminded me of my basement. An almost finished cabinet with PC equipment falling out the back

Lol, I'm so tired of this cabinet. I just want it to be done. Thanks for the kind words, I'm happy with how its turning out, and I fiddle with the volume a lot as it seems not all games play at the same level?

mgb · « **Reply #79 on:** December 02, 2015, 03:56:56 pm »

Just an FYI on the volume thing.
If you want to, you can even them all out by going into each game within mame and setting the volume
in order to even them all out.
That being said, it's a good idea that I have never actually gotten around to myself.
I just keep tweaking the volume knob


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