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Cocktail Underlay?
« on: June 21, 2015, 09:24:52 am »
I am restoring a Gorf cocktail. The glass is scratched up, and the artwork under the glass is badly flaked/bubbled, and I plan to replace both.  I ordered new glass and a repro underlay.

My first question is, what is the best technique for adhering the new underlay?
I searched this forum and decided to use 3M Super 77 spray adhesive, but I have searched Google and Youtube and can't find any advice on the best way to do the job. My plan is to spray the entire top of the underlay (graphic-side-up) with adhesive, let it tack-up for a couple minutes, then carefully place it onto the underside of the glass. I was going to use my old glass as a clamp and leave it on there for a day.

My next question is, does the old, original glass have any value, or should I trash it?

Much appreciation for any advice.

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Re: Cocktail Underlay?
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2015, 10:23:56 am »
I don't think you'll get the a good effect spraying adhesive onto the art and adhering it to the glass. I would use a backer board for the art and use clips or maybe experiment with clear doublesided tape used very minimally.

At any rate experiment first and post pics of your results.

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Re: Cocktail Underlay?
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2015, 10:35:40 am »
Do other people use a backer board? It seems like that would make it too thick for the clips that hold the glass to the table. In my searchings here, I've read other people complaining that just the vinyl reproduction was too thick for the clips to go on right. This makes sense when you consider that the original artwork was printed directly onto the glass at the factory; the table was never designed to have anything but a few mils of ink between the glass and the table.

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Re: Cocktail Underlay?
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2015, 12:43:53 pm »
I wouldn't adhere it at all. Most repro artwork that is not silkscreened to the glass you just position it carefully and lay it down and let the pressure of the glass hold it down. That makes it a lot easier to clean around it and also easier to replace should something happen to it.  And you don't need to worry about misalignment because you can move it around. Whereas the other method is permanent.


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Re: Cocktail Underlay?
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2015, 12:51:30 pm »
I wouldn't adhere it at all. Most repro artwork that is not silkscreened to the glass you just position it carefully and lay it down and let the pressure of the glass hold it down. That makes it a lot easier to clean around it and also easier to replace should something happen to it.  And you don't need to worry about misalignment because you can move it around. Whereas the other method is permanent.


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I did an Asteroids cocktail restore doing the same as above. I cleaned up the glass, scrapped off the flaky stuff, bought a nice printed underlay, laid it down, and it looked great.
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Re: Cocktail Underlay?
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2015, 01:05:20 pm »
Oh and make sure you clean the glass and wait a good amount of time for it to dry. If you don't the vinyl will grab on to any moisture and give you spots that are shiny. It's not a big deal but these cocktails can be a pain in the ass to remove the glass so save yourself the hassle.


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