Author Topic: Playing around with a winbook (Read 4838 times)

DaOld Man · « **on:** February 15, 2015, 11:41:08 am »

Ok, I have mame 0.147 (Frontend built into mame, don't care for that) on a usb stick.
I have the stick, a keyboard, and mouse plugged into a 4 port usb hub (non externally powered), and the hub plugged into my winbook.
Mame 147 works good, as does mala, but mame ~~0.137~~ 0.103 will not run, not sure why yet, still investigating.
Here is a pic of Galaga88 on the winbook:

Locke141 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 15, 2015, 01:25:08 pm »

Nice.

My mother in-law is bringing my win book from the US this Friday.

Thanks for sharing.

melvinbates · « **Reply #2 on:** February 17, 2015, 08:15:30 am »

Cool, I just picked up one of those. I look forward to seeing what it can do.

pbj · « **Reply #3 on:** February 17, 2015, 09:40:14 am »

See if it'll run Jamestown and Torchlight.

yotsuya · « **Reply #4 on:** February 17, 2015, 10:40:50 am »

And Gauntlet Legends. Don't forget Gauntlet Legends.

pbj · « **Reply #5 on:** February 17, 2015, 10:43:22 am »

Quote from: yotsuya on February 17, 2015, 10:40:50 am

And Gauntlet Legends. Don't forget Gauntlet Legends.

Don't be glib. It's not going to run Gauntlet Legends. Though it might be worth investigating with NullDC.

yotsuya · « **Reply #6 on:** February 17, 2015, 10:45:33 am »

Quote from: pbj on February 17, 2015, 10:43:22 am

Quote from: yotsuya on February 17, 2015, 10:40:50 am
And Gauntlet Legends. Don't forget Gauntlet Legends.

Don't be glib. It's not going to run Gauntlet Legends. Though it might be worth investigating with NullDC.

Did you jump on one of Tkwarr01r's deals? You know they can run GL pretty well.

Vigo · « **Reply #7 on:** February 18, 2015, 04:16:56 pm »

I am so clueless with what to do with mine.....too many options.

pbj · « **Reply #8 on:** February 18, 2015, 05:03:57 pm »

Quote from: Vigo on February 18, 2015, 04:16:56 pm

I am so clueless with what to do with mine.....too many options.

Mount it on top of an HDTV. Use it display marquees of the game you're playing.

Locke141 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2015, 02:30:25 pm »

I don't mean to bump two of these winbook threads but I saw this after the other one.

The old man how is it playing with 0.147? It seem little slow for me with the games I tried on .103 with Ms.pack man. I need to do some more testing but would like your opinion before I spend much time on something you may have already done.

DaOld Man · « **Reply #10 on:** February 24, 2015, 01:51:57 am »

Hello locke..
I copied the ~~0.137~~ V.103 and mala to the winbook memory and it works great.
It looks real good on my rigged up setup.
I have tried galaga88, burgertime, mappy, and donkey kong.
I don't notice any lag or slowdown at all.
To use the above games in vertical mode, I had to turn off auto screen rotate in the winbook. (Winbook kept trying to turn screen when it was physically turned 90 degrees. Mala and mame were fighting it.)
Will try to test Ms. Pacman tomorrow.

pbj · « **Reply #11 on:** February 24, 2015, 09:48:59 am »

The android variant of the cheapie tablet is down to $30 today...

http://www.microcenter.com/product/427032/A727_Tablet_-_Black#

Vigo · « **Reply #12 on:** February 24, 2015, 10:40:02 am »

That looks like one of those tablets with poor viewing angles. Might be good for some projects, but you are not gonna get the screen quality the winbook has. For the price, that is still a good deal for a some things though. Cheap Car movie player, garage tablet, etc.

BorgDog · « **Reply #13 on:** February 24, 2015, 11:33:44 am »

egads, 800x480 display!?

I'd probably toss it in the trash if someone gave it to me.

DaOld Man · « **Reply #14 on:** February 24, 2015, 01:00:12 pm »

Quote from: DaOld Man on February 24, 2015, 01:51:57 am

Hello locke..
I copied the ~~0.137~~ V.103 and mala to the winbook memory and it works great.
It looks real good on my rigged up setup.
I have tried galaga88, burgertime, mappy, and donkey kong.
I don't notice any lag or slowdown at all.
To use the above games in vertical mode, I had to turn off auto screen rotate in the winbook. (Winbook kept trying to turn screen when it was physically turned 90 degrees. Mala and mame were fighting it.)
Will try to test Ms. Pacman tomorrow.

Please note that my mame version is 0.103, not 0.137 as I stated earlier. (post above has been fixed.)
Ok, just tested Mspacmanb, mspacman, and btime and I have sound problems on all three, however mspacmanb is not near as bad as mspacman and btime. (I think I was testing btime2 earlier and didn't notice any sound problems then, but didn't test it today.)
Im thinking there may be sound problems with all the roms, just the ones without several different sounds playing at once is not as noticeable.

I set the mamepp cfg file line "Audio Latency =1 " to "Audio Latency= 0" but it didn't help much, if any at all.
I guess i need to look into the winbooks audio settings for a possible fix.
Perhaps we need a different version of mame. I intend to test the 0.147 again to see if it has sound problems.

BorgDog · « **Reply #15 on:** February 24, 2015, 03:53:28 pm »

OK, educate me please. Why shouldn't we be running newer/current versions of mame? Is there some set points where things changed a lot, or a place that lists those with some consensus? Although I haven't look for any such thing I have not also run across it in my reading.

Vigo · « **Reply #16 on:** February 24, 2015, 04:45:31 pm »

There are a number of things that came about, but the big thing is that some sound issues that were hacked together in earlier mames were "fixed", (aka they were properly emulated, but at the expense of a LOT of CPU usage). I am told that features like HLSL also take a tap on resources, even if not used. I can't confirm that with any evidence though. Other things have been a turn off, such as the flooding of mame with mechanical fruit machine stuff that serves no purpose to gamers. I have been recommended to go with mame 0.106 as a good version to stop at.

Locke141 · « **Reply #17 on:** February 25, 2015, 01:02:26 pm »

Quote from: DaOld Man on February 24, 2015, 01:00:12 pm

Please note that my mame version is 0.103, not 0.137 as I stated earlier. (post above has been fixed.)
Ok, just tested Mspacmanb, mspacman, and btime and I have sound problems on all three, however mspacmanb is not near as bad as mspacman and btime. (I think I was testing btime2 earlier and didn't notice any sound problems then, but didn't test it today.)
Im thinking there may be sound problems with all the roms, just the ones without several different sounds playing at once is not as noticeable.

I set the mamepp cfg file line "Audio Latency =1 " to "Audio Latency= 0" but it didn't help much, if any at all.
I guess i need to look into the winbooks audio settings for a possible fix.
Perhaps we need a different version of mame. I intend to test the 0.147 again to see if it has sound problems.

Thanks Man: It's nice to know it's not just me. Ms.Pac man it my favorite classic game and I was bummed it did not work right.

Does any one know the last versions of MAME before Mrs.Pac Man was fixed?

BorgDog · « **Reply #18 on:** February 27, 2015, 09:31:10 am »

One thing I have learned is be sure to turn off the hot keys in the intel graphics options for rotating the display

Some combination of button presses in my setup (i believe it defaults to ctrl-alt-arrow) switched the orientation in the middle of the game and all hell broke lose. trying to get my autorotating monitor back in sync with windows orientation in sync with mala orientation was kinda confusing, but all is well now.

I'm also having issues getting my buttons to wake the tablet from sleep. seems the wireless keyboard does it fine, but the minimus avr setup with KADE loader doesn't always want to. Which also led me to discover that even things like power options in this version of windows are stripped down and the option for turning off USB selective suspend (which theoretically would fix this issue) does not exist.

Also have run into a couple of audio glitches while playing games, may have to do as Vigo suggests and try out an older version of mame, currently running .156 I believe.

HanoiBoi · « **Reply #19 on:** March 03, 2015, 06:12:29 am »

Just to add, I've got .112 on my Winbook and tested about 10 games without issue; Donkey Kong, Ms Pac Man, Popeye, Pooyan, Hopper Robo (current competition game), and a couple other similar.

Locke141 · « **Reply #20 on:** March 04, 2015, 03:00:45 pm »

Quote from: HanoiBoi on March 03, 2015, 06:12:29 am

Just to add, I've got .112 on my Winbook and tested about 10 games without issue; Donkey Kong, Ms Pac Man, Popeye, Pooyan, Hopper Robo (current competition game), and a couple other similar.

That means your running a new er versions of Mame the the old man and I but you not having problems with the same games.

Did you do something in the setting os the win book?

BTY, I was going to try 0.37b5 as I have a rom set for mame4 all. I'll post back on how it goes for me.

HanoiBoi · « **Reply #21 on:** March 04, 2015, 06:56:38 pm »

No, I didn't do anything special with the winbook. Also, I am not using a frontend, just the mame exe.

Maybe the Rom(s) you are using are not correct for the version of mame that you're using?

JimmyU · « **Reply #22 on:** March 06, 2015, 12:17:01 pm »

I wonder how it does as an HTPC? Is there stuttering when playing videos at higher resolutions?

BorgDog · « **Reply #23 on:** March 06, 2015, 04:55:45 pm »

I was just reading on the winbook forums that it works fine, except that the hdmi does NOT output 5.1. I have not tried it myself so ymmv. I do however like it enough that I just bought a second one, 8" this time with 2gig ram and 32gig storage, to use as a nightstand surfing device.

nitrogen_widget · « **Reply #24 on:** March 12, 2015, 11:10:20 am »

Quote from: Locke141 on March 04, 2015, 03:00:45 pm

Quote from: HanoiBoi on March 03, 2015, 06:12:29 am
Just to add, I've got .112 on my Winbook and tested about 10 games without issue; Donkey Kong, Ms Pac Man, Popeye, Pooyan, Hopper Robo (current competition game), and a couple other similar.

That means your running a new er versions of Mame the the old man and I but you not having problems with the same games.

Did you do something in the setting os the win book?

BTY, I was going to try 0.37b5 as I have a rom set for mame4 all. I'll post back on how it goes for me.

How'd that run?
I've found older versions of advancedmame in the .70's work even on the really old pentium 3's.


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