Celebrities should try arcade building

[Le Chuck]

Not a lot of people die from this hobby. Drugs on the other hand...

Both are expensive, both can make your wife threaten to leave you, both are irrational, but drugs will getcha, Seymour Hoffman I'm looking at you.

Shoulda gotten high on Galaga.

[BadMouth]

I've seen the blurbs but still don't know who Seymour Hoffman is.  (haven't been bothered enough to google it)

Prolly some celebrities on BYOAC.  It's a cool hobby.

[yotsuya]

Yeah, that's too bad. He was an excellent actor.

[Howard_Casto]

I'm ashamed to admit that I wasn't sure who he was either.  Then I looked him up, saw the picture and thought "oh that character actor that always looks like he's on something".

I don't mean to speak ill of the dead, but this one is about as shocking as when Amy Winehouse died of an OD. 

[ChadTower]

Another young famous person dies of an overdose.   

[Le Chuck]

Another young famous person dies of an overdose.   

46. While not an oldster that's not exactly a spring chicken.

[ChadTower]

It is if you're talking about death.  Do you want to die at 46?

[Le Chuck]

It is if you're talking about death.  Do you want to die at 46?

Depends what for, right reason arises I'd be more than willing.  Have been for the last 12 years, will continue to be for the foreseeable future. 

[ChanceKJ]

I'm getting a lot of flack for this, but i feel i make a valid point.

First off, i loved the guy's movies. Boat that Rocked, Almost Famous, Magnolia, Synecdoche New York, and many more were all great films and rank among my favourites as a film guy. My point is, why the hell are some people feeling sorry for a guy (with known addiction issues) who threw his own life away? Especially for killing himself (whether it was on purpose or inadvertently in his own eyes). Here's one thought: What a slap in the face this was for his fans and other people that depend on him to make their own livings, people who work in and around him and depend on his work to pay their bills. The guy has three major films in various stages of post production, how selfish can you be?!

If anything positive comes out of this (and i know it won't because it never does) i hope its greater awareness of other popular figures who have similar issues. Its sad, but there is a certain level of "oh well thats too bad" given to these people when it should be "What the #$%@ we're you (not) thinking?!"

Sorry, with one exception: Bieber.

I swear to god, you guys south of the boarder can keep the little dumb ass. The naming rights to a future wing of the Betty Ford clinic has his name all over it for posthumous reasons.


Anyway...

[ark_ader]

I'm getting a lot of flack for this, but i feel i make a valid point.

First off, i loved the guy's movies. Boat that Rocked, Almost Famous, Magnolia, Synecdoche New York, and many more were all great films and rank among my favourites as a film guy. My point is, why the hell are some people feeling sorry for a guy (with known addiction issues) who threw his own life away? Especially for killing himself (whether it was on purpose or inadvertently in his own eyes). Here's one thought: What a slap in the face this was for his fans and other people that depend on him to make their own livings, people who work in and around him and depend on his work to pay their bills. The guy has three major films in various stages of post production, how selfish can you be?!

If anything positive comes out of this (and i know it won't because it never does) i hope its greater awareness of other popular figures who have similar issues. Its sad, but there is a certain level of "oh well thats too bad" given to these people when it should be "What the #$%@ we're you (not) thinking?!"

Sorry, with one exception: Bieber.

I swear to god, you guys south of the boarder can keep the little dumb ass. The naming rights to a future wing of the Betty Ford clinic has his name all over it for posthumous reasons.


Anyway...

Boogie Nights, Capote, The Talented Mr. Ripley. 

Easy to understand, hard to factor, fathom or accept.  Very sad indeed. 

[edekoning]

Here's one thought: What a slap in the face this was for his fans and other people that depend on him to make their own livings, people who work in and around him and depend on his work to pay their bills. The guy has three major films in various stages of post production, how selfish can you be?!

Was he a real addict (as in his life revolved around his next shot), was he depressed, fed up with life, was it an accident, did he got bad drugs, was it suicide? Without knowing any details, or knowing him personally, nor having been in his shoes, its hard to say anything meaningful about this. But my first reaction is usually something like 'WTF where you thinking'. (hey I'm only human)

[spoot]

Here's one thought: What a slap in the face this was for his fans and other people that depend on him to make their own livings, people who work in and around him and depend on his work to pay their bills. The guy has three major films in various stages of post production, how selfish can you be?!

Actually, how selfish can you be?  How dare you say he needs to live so he can entertain you.   

Sorry, but those lines really rub me the wrong way.  As an addict myself who's just under a year's clean time and struggling daily to come up with a reason to continue to live......one of the last things we addicts need is to feel more people we don't know are judging us when they typically have no idea what's really going on in our heads and/or lives.

Please don't take that as an attack on you personally.....just a bit of venting today.   Good day. 

[jdbailey1206]

Somebody actually caught his last moments on tape.  It was leaked online.



Too soon?

[yotsuya]

Yeah. Too soon.

[CCM]

The guy has three major films in various stages of post production, how selfish can you be?!

Really!?  Who gives a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- about the post production of 3 films... my guess is Hollywood will recover.     How about his 3 kids, aren't they more important than some stupid movies?

[ark_ader]

How about his 3 kids, aren't they more important than some stupid movies?

Apparently not as he was supposed to be picking them up later that day...

Geez ten bags of H in his apartment.  He didn't fall off the wagon - he jumped.

[pbj]

Between this thread and all the "rep" ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---, Le Chuck is now on the ignore list.

 

[ChadTower]

It is if you're talking about death.  Do you want to die at 46?

Depends what for, right reason arises I'd be more than willing.  Have been for the last 12 years, will continue to be for the foreseeable future.

May I assume that a drug overdose isn't among your right reasons?

[CCM]

How about his 3 kids, aren't they more important than some stupid movies?

Apparently not as he was supposed to be picking them up later that day...

Geez ten bags of H in his apartment.  He didn't fall off the wagon - he jumped.

Well, I didn't mean more important to him.... I meant that 3 kids growing up without a father is a little worse than some Hollywood types being inconvenienced in post production.

[lordnacho]

[Slippyblade]

Well, I didn't mean more important to him.... I meant that 3 kids growing up without a father is a little worse than some Hollywood types being inconvenienced in post production.

Considering the Hollywood lifestyle, I doubt those three kids had a "father" to begin with.

[Generic Eric]

Prolly some celebrities on BYOAC. 

IIRC someone had an "Arcade builder to the stars" as their avatar quote.  Also, I remember reading a blog post linked from here about someone having sold their MAME cabinet to Kevin Smith.

[ChanceKJ]

Actually, how selfish can you be?  How dare you say he needs to live so he can entertain you.   

I'm not saying he needs to entertain anyone. I'm saying he was a small industry. His work employed assistants, housekeepers, people that work on his films. Many of them in a lower class with children of their own. He practically fired all of them with a needle and a dime bag.  Thats my point.

I could care less about spending $45 for a movie ticket and a small bag of crappy popcorn to watch him entertain me.

(oh and i get it, you're venting, no offence taken This is after all "The Internet". )

Really!?  Who gives a ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- about the post production of 3 films... my guess is Hollywood will recover.     How about his 3 kids, aren't they more important than some stupid movies?

Yes, three kids all under the age of 12. I think it goes without saying that the loss of a father is on another level. Especially for the oldest one his son who may be old enough to understand. I wasn't trying to detract from that. Both are important. But again, there's my point, why be sad or feel sorry for the guy? if anything, by leaving 3 young children he should just be left in an unnamed grave and his children should be raised to care less about him for abandoning them.  I myself grew up without a father, and now have no parents at all. I'm pretty sure i have a solid understanding on this topic.

Considering the Hollywood lifestyle, I doubt those three kids had a "father" to begin with.

Also a very good point.

[ChanceKJ]

Prolly some celebrities on BYOAC. 

IIRC someone had an "Arcade builder to the stars" as their avatar quote.  Also, I remember reading a blog post linked from here about someone having sold their MAME cabinet to Kevin Smith.

Money says Scott's (PL1) been lying to us and IS Kevin Smith.   ...That or Patrick Stewart or maybe Molly Shannon.

[Generic Eric]

Prolly some celebrities on BYOAC. 

IIRC someone had an "Arcade builder to the stars" as their avatar quote.  Also, I remember reading a blog post linked from here about someone having sold their MAME cabinet to Kevin Smith.

Money says Scott's (PL1) been lying to us and IS Kevin Smith.   ...That or Patrick Stewart or maybe Molly Shannon.

Meh.  I dunno, between the podcast and stand up I have watched, Kevin Smith will tell you he is Kevin Smith every time.  In lieu of Kevin Smith,  I bring you Will Wheaton slinging Xarcade
player.vimeo.com/video/44215858 (excuse me while I link this) shazzle!  click the link!

[yotsuya]

Money says Scott's (PL1) been lying to us and IS Kevin Smith.   ...That or Patrick Stewart or maybe Molly Shannon.

I told you, Scott's a highly advanced algorithm call center robot/program.

[ChanceKJ]

Money says Scott's (PL1) been lying to us and IS Kevin Smith.   ...That or Patrick Stewart or maybe Molly Shannon.

I told you, Scott's a highly advanced algorithm call center robot/program.

   mmm that's right. But he could be Patrick Stewart acting like a highly advanced algorithm call center robot/program.

[jdbailey1206]

Money says Scott's (PL1) been lying to us and IS Kevin Smith.   ...That or Patrick Stewart or maybe Molly Shannon.

I told you, Scott's a highly advanced algorithm call center robot/program.

   mmm that's right. But he could be Patrick Stewart acting like a highly advanced algorithm call center robot/program.

[ChanceKJ]

  that's awesome.

[danny_galaga]

Hoffman was a fantastic actor. I'm sure he didn't mean to die. People make stupid mistakes. He obviously had troubles. Thing is, lots of people try and cope with more acceptable drugs like booze. But it's harder to ---fudgesicle--- up and die from that (unless you get behind the wheel of course). So many people, probably quite a few here, will tell you about how they got smashed out of their skull on the weekend, like that's 'normal'. If you do that regularly, then you are an addict, just like Phil. You cope with a different drug, is all. Incidentally, Bon Scott died from drinking, but I never hear anyone say to me 'Bon was so selfish, how could he do that?'.

On heroin itself, there are lots of people who function quite normally who use it. With full time jobs and families.  Plenty that don't of course, point is it's not all about emaciated junkies in the alleyway. Myself, I hardly ever drink, and don't even like the effect of weed. I don't need to self-medicate but I've learnt over time that some people do and I try not to judge them. Except violent drunks. I draw the line there.

I've noticed antagonism about his death, at work as well as online. Mainly about why this is seemingly more important than other news (I felt this way about that guy from those fast and furious movies btw). But it's not like Phil is telling the media to go nuts. I'm sure if he could, he'd want them to just leave his family alone and not report it at all because frankly it's pretty bloody embarrassing...

[ark_ader]

Hoffman was a fantastic actor. I'm sure he didn't mean to die. People make stupid mistakes. He obviously had troubles. Thing is, lots of people try and cope with more acceptable drugs like booze. But it's harder to ---fudgesicle--- up and die from that (unless you get behind the wheel of course). So many people, probably quite a few here, will tell you about how they got smashed out of their skull on the weekend, like that's 'normal'. If you do that regularly, then you are an addict, just like Phil. You cope with a different drug, is all. Incidentally, Bon Scott died from drinking, but I never hear anyone say to me 'Bon was so selfish, how could he do that?'.

On heroin itself, there are lots of people who function quite normally who use it. With full time jobs and families.  Plenty that don't of course, point is it's not all about emaciated junkies in the alleyway. Myself, I hardly ever drink, and don't even like the effect of weed. I don't need to self-medicate but I've learnt over time that some people do and I try not to judge them. Except violent drunks. I draw the line there.

I've noticed antagonism about his death, at work as well as online. Mainly about why this is seemingly more important than other news (I felt this way about that guy from those fast and furious movies btw). But it's not like Phil is telling the media to go nuts. I'm sure if he could, he'd want them to just leave his family alone and not report it at all because frankly it's pretty bloody embarrassing...

I totally agree.  Heroin apparently requires more to get the same high as the body adapts to it quicker, so the OD is a foregone conclusion, especially for the weak. I was watching a documentary on Krokodil which is another horrifying drug.

[jdbailey1206]

What I don't like though, Danny, is the fact that there are so many more people that deserve the accolade more than PSH.  I agree that any person coping with problems with any substance abuse should get the help they need but I hate how society as a whole puts celebrities on a pedestal when so many average people die from substance abuse and they don't get 1/8 of the attention that celebrities do.  It's crap.  The funny thing about this is the fact that if one person had died of substance abuse in PSH's place he wouldn't bat an eye. 

[Xiaou2]

What I don't like though, Danny, is the fact that there are so many more people that deserve the accolade more than PSH.  I agree that any person coping with problems with any substance abuse should get the help they need but I hate how society as a whole puts celebrities on a pedestal when so many average people die from substance abuse and they don't get 1/8 of the attention that celebrities do.  It's crap.  The funny thing about this is the fact that if one person had died of substance abuse in PSH's place he wouldn't bat an eye.

 Who exactly are you talking about???

 The they in your equation, are the people whom believe TV is Reality.

 Plenty of people suffer greatly every day, from issues with loved ones that are addicts... and or whom have passed on as a result.

 Just because its blasted on the Hypnotist-Zombification-Probaghandist-Box , B$-paper, B$-Radio, or other ma$$ media outlet... thats bought and paid, by the "mental-enslavement" group" ...  )  does not mean its Real.

 
 Furthermore, if someone does not find it odd that there was 1000x the needed amount usually for the job... it seems to me like they are very gullible to believe that this fabrication was indeed truth.

 The same people who believed the medias account... probably laughed at Prince changing his name to a Symbol, Brittany shaving her head... and countless others in similar situations, whom were also wronged, and then smeared by the same controlling forces that wrong them, with their media machines.



  Just keep staring into the swirling image on that box...

  "Hey, you there !"    ...   "Please ignore the men behind the big green curtains..."



 The Mass Media isnt Reality. Disconnect from it, and start living the truth.

[Slippyblade]

Just because its blasted on the Hypnotist-Zombification-Probaghandist-Box , B$-paper, B$-Radio, or other ma$$ media outlet... thats bought and paid, by the "mental-enslavement" group" ...  )  does not mean its Real.

 
 Furthermore, if someone does not find it odd that there was 1000x the needed amount usually for the job... it seems to me like they are very gullible to believe that this fabrication was indeed truth.

 The same people who believed the medias account... probably laughed at Prince changing his name to a Symbol, Brittany shaving her head... and countless others in similar situations, whom were also wronged, and then smeared by the same controlling forces that wrong them, with their media machines.



  Just keep staring into the swirling image on that box...

  "Hey, you there !"    ...   "Please ignore the men behind the big green curtains..."


 The Mass Media isnt Reality. Disconnect from it, and start living the truth.

Holy crap dude.  Lay off the mushrooms for a while.  Do the polka-dot dinosaurs in your world fly?

[Xiaou2]

Do we have a Shill in the Room??  Or just another Zombie Parrot that Repeats, rather than "Thinks"

 Seriously..  if you really believe the magic # 49  in this equation, then you truly are a fool.   

 Just as foolish, to think that the mass media, which is controlled by money, which is ran by the highest stock holders..  which happen to be the worlds most wealthiest families... do not have any agendas with those media outlets they bought and own.  (along with ever major industry, business, etc.)

 Most of the stuff isnt even hidden.  Any 11yr old could do a few hours of research, and trace the money trails to the sources of the corrupted 'elite' puppeteers.   As well as find overwhelming evidence, past and present, of their seedy deeds.


 Dont bother trying to paint me with your propagandist "Tripped Out" or  "Delusional"  brush. (Squawk!)

 Ive never done a single drug in my 40yrs on this plane.  I also have countless people from all walks of life, whom know me personally, and would vouch for my reputation as an honest, intelligent, hard working, passionate, artistic, inventive, creative, multi-talented, reliable, responsible, and good intentioned soul.


 Monkey See, Monkey Do
 I am a Zombie. Aren't you too?

[danny_galaga]

What I don't like though, Danny, is the fact that there are so many more people that deserve the accolade more than PSH.  I agree that any person coping with problems with any substance abuse should get the help they need but I hate how society as a whole puts celebrities on a pedestal when so many average people die from substance abuse and they don't get 1/8 of the attention that celebrities do.  It's crap.  The funny thing about this is the fact that if one person had died of substance abuse in PSH's place he wouldn't bat an eye.

Can you point me to the thread you must have started when he won an oscar? You know, the one where you said many more people were deserving? He was getting accolades when he was alive you know. When people die, you say nice things about them (unless they are Pol Pot or something). You also don't know how Phil would have felt about someone else dying of an overdose. If he had been doing it long enough, he probably knew people who had, and they were probably nobody famous.

Here's an article about addicts who aren't famous (and in fact are the bottom tier- the junkies) to help address this imbalance since I know you care more than Phil about this subject

http://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/former-wall-street-trader-took-200939379.html

[yotsuya]

Ive never done a single drug in my 40yrs on this plane.

That's a long ass flight, bro.

[Le Chuck]

    

Holy crap dude.  Lay off the mushrooms for a while.  Do the polka-dot dinosaurs in your world fly?

That's a long ass flight, bro.

Those two  comments made me snort my coke


snort my coke up my nose I meant



get coke in my nose


christ...

you know what I mean...don't judge me!

[Xiaou2]

It was equally funny to watch you start 5 threads crying about your negative rep.
Whaah
 

[Vigo]

When people die, you say nice things about them (unless they are Pol Pot or something).

I once watched a new story during the last days of Pol Pot. The guy was actually deeply remorseful for who he was during his life. It was a bit shocking that such a vile villain was actually so human before he died.