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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #200 on: March 27, 2013, 06:26:20 am »
You might want to post them without scanlines, for those that might use them in conjunction with a scanline generator.
Great job!  ;D

Or for folks who run on an actual arcade monitor by themselves.

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #201 on: March 29, 2013, 01:59:12 pm »
Hmmmm. After seeing that fishbowl image, I'm lightly re-considering the idea of my monitor acting as a glass cover rather than displayer of the image. Hmmmm.
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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #202 on: March 29, 2013, 02:26:31 pm »
If you find that your displayer of image is irregular lines in fishbowl, your screen may be in parallel, and the screen image inward curve in the glass. Whether flat screen, it is more likely to occur in the bumps. However, these are used in monitor. Hmmmmmm-mmmmmmmmmm-mmmmm!

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #203 on: March 29, 2013, 09:43:08 pm »
If you find that your displayer of image is irregular lines in fishbowl, your screen may be in parallel, and the screen image inward curve in the glass. Whether flat screen, it is more likely to occur in the bumps. However, these are used in monitor. Hmmmmmm-mmmmmmmmmm-mmmmm!

Hmmmm. After seeing that fishbowl image, I'm lightly re-considering the idea of my monitor acting as a glass cover rather than displayer of the image. Hmmmm.

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #204 on: April 01, 2013, 06:26:26 pm »
If you find that your displayer of image is irregular lines in fishbowl, your screen may be in parallel, and the screen image inward curve in the glass. Whether flat screen, it is more likely to occur in the bumps. However, these are used in monitor. Hmmmmmm-mmmmmmmmmm-mmmmm!

I ain't got past lightly thinkin about it....also, I only use CRTs.
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« Reply #205 on: April 01, 2013, 09:17:09 pm »
I ain't got past lightly thinkin about it....also, I only use CRTs.

That's cool.  I still don't know what you're thinking about, though.  I still can't parse the sentence.  This one:

Hmmmm. After seeing that fishbowl image, I'm lightly re-considering the idea of my monitor acting as a glass cover rather than displayer of the image. Hmmmm.

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #206 on: April 04, 2013, 07:42:17 am »
Coming in late to the thread, and the first page seemed to get off topic.

but webmame can do this.  The web pages are very dull (but can be prettiafied with CSS using standards by cssgarden).  I haven't tried to put them on a phone yet.  The interface itself also is very simple.  All commands are just an URL on the arcade machine.

NOTE:  I add it and test this feature for deciding what games to add to each group, but I don't use it this way. 

but without reading the middle 5 pages, it might be someone else has already implemented this.

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« Reply #207 on: April 04, 2013, 08:16:20 am »
Coming in late to the thread, and the first page seemed to get off topic.

but webmame can do this.  The web pages are very dull (but can be prettiafied with CSS using standards by cssgarden).  I haven't tried to put them on a phone yet.  The interface itself also is very simple.  All commands are just an URL on the arcade machine.

NOTE:  I add it and test this feature for deciding what games to add to each group, but I don't use it this way. 

but without reading the middle 5 pages, it might be someone else has already implemented this.

That's pretty much what I did.  My app goes as far as I need it to go, WebMAME goes a bit further.  I have no need for categories and such; I have only a small list of ROMs that I use, and I now have a static list for the cabinet I emulate on.

My intention was to decouple (some prefer the word 'divorce') the front-end from the back-end.  After doing so, you can put them each in separate places, or move one or the other with little more than a configuration change.  My back-end (the node.js script/server) can be used alone, but is intended to be invoked by a front-end that presents a user with a game selection UI.

So, yeah.  WebMAME is very similar.

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #208 on: April 08, 2013, 01:39:00 pm »
This sounds pretty awesome to me, actually! I think this is exactly what I was looking for. In my case, I want to have a dual screen cab (a modified PlayChoice-10/ Punch-Out) and have the game selection be on the top screen, while the game plays on the bottom.

For some games, I want to use 2 screens (Punch-Out). For some games I want to only use the top, veritical screen (DK) and for some, only the bottom, horizontal screen (Vs. SMB).

Any idea if this would be able to launch (and close) 2 programs at the same time? For PC10 games, I want to have the instructions on the top screen with and NES emu running on the bottom, since PC10 games play better via an NES emu rather than mame, but I want to replicate the arcade experience since PC10 was my favorite arcade game.
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« Reply #209 on: April 08, 2013, 02:53:13 pm »
This sounds pretty awesome to me, actually! I think this is exactly what I was looking for. In my case, I want to have a dual screen cab (a modified PlayChoice-10/ Punch-Out) and have the game selection be on the top screen, while the game plays on the bottom.

For some games, I want to use 2 screens (Punch-Out). For some games I want to only use the top, veritical screen (DK) and for some, only the bottom, horizontal screen (Vs. SMB).

Any idea if this would be able to launch (and close) 2 programs at the same time? For PC10 games, I want to have the instructions on the top screen with and NES emu running on the bottom, since PC10 games play better via an NES emu rather than mame, but I want to replicate the arcade experience since PC10 was my favorite arcade game.

I didn't write it with that in mind, but my software could be made to do this. if you know Javascript I can give you the code and let you have at it.

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #210 on: April 08, 2013, 02:54:31 pm »
My intention was to decouple (some prefer the word 'divorce') the front-end from the back-end. 

Decouple is more technically correct, whereas divorce is more vernacular. Are you hinting at something personal?


I still can't parse the sentence.  This one:

Hmmmm. After seeing that fishbowl image, I'm lightly re-considering the idea of my monitor acting as a glass cover rather than displayer of the image. Hmmmm.

Until the late 80s and particularly later, cabs' monitors had a piece of glass over/in front of them. Using the convex effect would be like your monitor being the piece of glass than the monitor itself.

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #211 on: April 08, 2013, 03:39:03 pm »
I didn't write it with that in mind (open and then close two programs), but my software could be made to do this. if you know Javascript I can give you the code and let you have at it.

Wish I did, but sadly no. What I want to do is have mame open on my top screen (with just the instruction screen) and and NES emu open with the same game on the bottom screen. When you exit the game, both programs will close.

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #212 on: April 08, 2013, 10:51:13 pm »
My intention was to decouple (some prefer the word 'divorce') the front-end from the back-end. 

Decouple is more technically correct, whereas divorce is more vernacular. Are you hinting at something personal?

No, I just find that "divorce" is an easier word to understand than "decouple" for many audiences.  I used to train people on virtual machine platforms; when describing the relationship between hardware & OS, before & after virtualization became possible, "divorce" got a lot more comprehension than "decouple" ever did.  Folks always thought of an OS belonging to hardware, and with virtualization that wasn't true at all anymore.  "Decouple" never carried the weight that "divorce" carried, despite it being the proper technical term.

As you may know, with virtual machines you can change the server an OS is running on and keep the virtual machine running the whole time, or you can change what operating systems are running on a specific piece of hardware, again, without downtime.  Before I started using the term "divorce" this was a difficult concept to grasp, for some, and people were always asking me how I could uninstall and re-install an operating system so quickly.

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #213 on: April 11, 2013, 07:40:52 pm »
I don't know much about virtual machine stuff. I might've just said separate.....although people inherently thinking OS not as software is amusing.
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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #214 on: April 22, 2013, 04:40:53 am »
i have the credit button and escape key locked inside the coin door.  i have shifted functions disabled.  once the game is selected, i can simply lock the door, and from the outside its impossible to change the game, so to the casual user it is no different than the game would have been in an arcade back in the 80s or whatever.  still, changing games is as easy as opening the coin door and pressing escape.  a front end on your phone is still a front end, in my opinion.  the only benefit i can see is not having to turn a key...
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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #215 on: May 21, 2013, 04:40:05 pm »
So a guy goes away for a couple of months and you folks run people off in his absence?

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FWIW, I really like the idea (I have always had a bit of an issue with front-ends) and might consider extending it to cover multiple machines in a single interface. Doesn't really help me with 20 dedicated machines, but if there was something like this back when I was starting out, I expect my basement would look a lot different.
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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #216 on: May 21, 2013, 07:09:08 pm »
So a guy goes away for a couple of months and you folks run people off in his absence?

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Wait a minute... You were gone for a couple months? :dunno

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #217 on: May 21, 2013, 07:34:05 pm »
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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #218 on: May 25, 2013, 04:12:21 pm »
So...she was too lazy to teach her daughter how to change the game?
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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #219 on: May 25, 2013, 04:42:15 pm »
She was too lazy to play with her.  And didnt want to get up to help.  Thats how I read it.


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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #220 on: May 26, 2013, 04:08:26 pm »
I was wondering why someone who's married and has kids was spending so much time here....I mean, who was female....cos they got lots of chores to do you know....
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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #221 on: May 26, 2013, 06:41:10 pm »
She was too lazy to play with her.  And didnt want to get up to help.  Thats how I read it.

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #222 on: June 13, 2013, 12:06:05 am »
Where can we download the front end?   :dunno

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #223 on: June 13, 2013, 08:14:11 am »
Where can we download the front end?   :dunno
iTunes?  Im kidding. AFAIK she took her ball and went home. Try MaLa or any of the many other front ends.
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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #224 on: June 13, 2013, 08:49:04 am »
I posted it in one of the other threads. Will find it and post again when I have time.

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #225 on: June 13, 2013, 08:58:08 am »
She put it here: https://mamelauncher.codeplex.com/

It hasn't been touched since late March.

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« Reply #226 on: June 13, 2013, 09:12:31 am »
She put it here: https://mamelauncher.codeplex.com/

It hasn't been touched since late March.

tell her just because she doesnt play with the boys anymore doesnt mean she cant work on the project.
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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #227 on: June 13, 2013, 09:43:28 am »
The sheer amount of trolling well over a month since Sandheaver left the site is quite appalling; At driverman levels no less.

Although i may not agree or disagree with her actions here, I commend her for at least putting something up and contributing.

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« Reply #228 on: June 13, 2013, 10:41:07 am »
The sheer amount of trolling well over a month since Sandheaver left the site is quite appalling; At driverman levels no less.

Although i may not agree or disagree with her actions here, I commend her for at least putting something up and contributing.

I'll bite, you accusing me of trolling?  ::)
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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #229 on: June 13, 2013, 10:44:33 am »
Its no more or less than we give PBJ for pulling his posts.  We cant discriminate. We bust chops equally.



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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #230 on: June 13, 2013, 10:57:53 am »
The sheer amount of trolling well over a month since Sandheaver left the site is quite appalling; At driverman levels no less.

Although i may not agree or disagree with her actions here, I commend her for at least putting something up and contributing.

I'll bite, you accusing me of trolling?  ::)

There's ~15+ posts in this thread after Sandheaver's last post. There's two threads floating around about Sandheaver in other sections. One of which contains over 120+ posts. Yet, you claim I'm talking only about you.

Do me a huge favor, don't respond back. You're wasting my time, Again.



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« Reply #231 on: June 13, 2013, 11:40:51 am »
There's ~15+ posts in this thread after Sandheaver's last post. There's two threads floating around about Sandheaver in other sections. One of which contains over 120+ posts. Yet, you claim I'm talking only about you.

Do me a huge favor, don't respond back. You're wasting my time, Again.



As for everyone else, there's always a time to let things go and move on.
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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #232 on: June 13, 2013, 02:45:25 pm »
One of those "other" threads, the one with a buncha posts, is a remarkably civil discussion for which Hoopz received a trophy.  It isn't trolling.  And we really got to know Rigby well, so all in all, I think it's value should be apparent. 

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #233 on: June 13, 2013, 03:30:09 pm »
Jeez, who ---smurfing--- cares??  I like 404, but sometimes he comes off as very proper, or plain gay.
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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #234 on: June 13, 2013, 03:42:47 pm »
One of those "other" threads, the one with a buncha posts, is a remarkably civil discussion for which Hoopz received a trophy.  It isn't trolling.  And we really got to know Rigby well, so all in all, I think it's value should be apparent.

Half of the posts here and on the other thread after announcing that she is leaving are catered towards either speaking about her gender or things from her personal life. None of which have anything to do with her situation here.

Jeez, who ---smurfing--- cares??  I like 404, but sometimes he comes off as very proper, or plain gay.

All I'm saying is that there is always a time and a place to stop beating a dead horse and move on. If that makes me 'very proper' or 'plain' then that's fine.

I have thick skin, I can take the criticism.

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #235 on: June 13, 2013, 08:45:25 pm »
They really aren't, you need to take a second look.  She thought that she was being picked on for being a girl.  The discussions weren't about her gender, but rather how silly it was for her to think that.  It's a subtle but distinct difference.  Whenever somebody leaves we try to figure out why... it's as simple as that. 

Just ignore Gray_Area apparently everybody else does. ;)  I have a personal rule never to seriously make fun of people or insult their character.  Now their ideas, that's all fair game, but you are correct, that was uncalled for. 

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Re: a no front-end front-end.
« Reply #236 on: June 14, 2013, 09:34:28 am »
They really aren't, you need to take a second look.  She thought that she was being picked on for being a girl.  The discussions weren't about her gender, but rather how silly it was for her to think that.  It's a subtle but distinct difference. 
Wastin your time bro, when he gets an idea of what he thinks a post means he'd rather die than consider perhaps he read something the wrong way. Yes this is a slightly trolly post.
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« Reply #237 on: June 15, 2013, 07:51:53 am »
They really aren't, you need to take a second look.  She thought that she was being picked on for being a girl.  The discussions weren't about her gender, but rather how silly it was for her to think that.  It's a subtle but distinct difference.  Whenever somebody leaves we try to figure out why... it's as simple as that. 

Just ignore Gray_Area apparently everybody else does. ;)  I have a personal rule never to seriously make fun of people or insult their character.  Now their ideas, that's all fair game, but you are correct, that was uncalled for.

With respect, not sure how anyone can say that. There's nearly an entire thread dedicated to trashing her in another forum section. I'm just saying it's time to move on, that's all.


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« Reply #238 on: June 15, 2013, 07:52:44 am »
They really aren't, you need to take a second look.  She thought that she was being picked on for being a girl.  The discussions weren't about her gender, but rather how silly it was for her to think that.  It's a subtle but distinct difference. 
Wastin your time bro, when he gets an idea of what he thinks a post means he'd rather die than consider perhaps he read something the wrong way. Yes this is a slightly trolly post.

I'm convinced you have an e-boner for me. You just cant stop from mentioning me in just about every other post. You seemed far less pathetic when you were just the vertical bartop cop.

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