E.T. is a stuuupid movie........

[crashwg]

Born in 83, so the hype was over by the time I had watched it.  I couldn't say for sure how old I was the first time I'd seen it, but I have watched it 5+ times now (the last time, I was maybe 12) and every time I recall thinking I had wasted my time.  No joke, I would rather play the 2600 game for an hour and a half, than watch the movie!

[mcseforsale]

But, your jaded from youth.  Back when it came out, that type of film was almost magic.  When you were 12, we already had cell phones.  When some of us were 12, TVs didn't even have remotes and you could get porn from cable with a queen of diamonds.

AJ

Born in 83, so the hype was over by the time I had watched it.  I couldn't say for sure how old I was the first time I'd seen it, but I have watched it 5+ times now (the last time, I was maybe 12) and every time I recall thinking I had wasted my time.  No joke, I would rather play the 2600 game for an hour and a half, than watch the movie!

[Howard_Casto]

Yes, for a BAD artist it's never done.  I've took many an art classs in my day and at one point I was thinking about making a career out of it.  One of the first things they drill into you is not to work your art to death.  You'll always have that feeling of wanting to do more, but you are supposed to resist that urge and let it go when you find a good stopping point. 

A mame cab is not art, it's a craft. 

I'm sure both good and bad artists produce both finished and unfinished pieces or does finishing constitute a virtue of a good artist only?  Sure, knowing when to call it a day is a good thing but it's such a subjective and personal assessment.  By that I mean one persons "working it to death" is another’s "barely started".  I think somewhere in that statement about how long to spend on something is also the sage advice - Ultimately it's not about how long your cab takes to build, but about how pleased you are with the result.

It's like this... good art is subjective, but bad art isn't.  That's not very fair, but unfortunately no less correct.  If 90% of the population sees bad art, they generally all agree that it's bad.  Bad art has merit, but I don't think anyone intentionally sets out to make bad art.  That should never be your goal.  We aren't talking about how much you rework something, we are talking about the fact that you HAVE to choose a stopping point and stop.  This isn't optional, it isn't subjective.  The purpose of art is to invoke a repose from your audience, if you don't finish then that can never happen and your art is a failure.  Aka bad art. 

This is another thing that I got flamed for (for no reason btw) a few months back, but nope, how the artist feels about the end product, in regards to it's quality is largely irrelevant.  It's how the audience feels about it that's important.  If this isn't your philosophy in regards to your work (like cab building) then it isn't art.  So like I said, mame cabs aren't an art, they are a craft. 

[mcseforsale]

+1... specialized cabinet making.  I grew up in a house with a full wood shop in the basement.  Dad made EVERYTHING...book cases, coffee tables, our bedframes, etc etc.  But, in the end, looking back, his skills were in the use of tools, the measurements and the bonding methods he used. 

Now that his new hobby is turning bowls, it is a form of art...but more like a craft.

AJ

Yes, for a BAD artist it's never done.  I've took many an art classs in my day and at one point I was thinking about making a career out of it.  One of the first things they drill into you is not to work your art to death.  You'll always have that feeling of wanting to do more, but you are supposed to resist that urge and let it go when you find a good stopping point. 

A mame cab is not art, it's a craft. 

I'm sure both good and bad artists produce both finished and unfinished pieces or does finishing constitute a virtue of a good artist only?  Sure, knowing when to call it a day is a good thing but it's such a subjective and personal assessment.  By that I mean one persons "working it to death" is another’s "barely started".  I think somewhere in that statement about how long to spend on something is also the sage advice - Ultimately it's not about how long your cab takes to build, but about how pleased you are with the result.

It's like this... good art is subjective, but bad art isn't.  That's not very fair, but unfortunately no less correct.  If 90% of the population sees bad art, they generally all agree that it's bad.  Bad art has merit, but I don't think anyone intentionally sets out to make bad art.  That should never be your goal.  We aren't talking about how much you rework something, we are talking about the fact that you HAVE to choose a stopping point and stop.  This isn't optional, it isn't subjective.  The purpose of art is to invoke a repose from your audience, if you don't finish then that can never happen and your art is a failure.  Aka bad art. 

This is another thing that I got flamed for (for no reason btw) a few months back, but nope, how the artist feels about the end product, in regards to it's quality is largely irrelevant.  It's how the audience feels about it that's important.  If this isn't your philosophy in regards to your work (like cab building) then it isn't art.  So like I said, mame cabs aren't an art, they are a craft. 

[Ond]

I don't think like this, if I did I'd never create much of anything.  Nuff said.

[mcseforsale]

As usual, Ond, you break the mold.  Your creations are more along the lines of sculpture (leChuck, too). 

But for us mere mortals building Dynamo's and poaching Kneivel's designs, that's different.

AJ

I don't think like this, if I did I'd never create much of anything.  Nuff said.

[ChadTower]

As usual, Ond, you break the mold.  Your creations are more along the lines of sculpture (leChuck, too). 

[Le Chuck]

What's that supposed to mean Chad?

[Gray_Area]

On the art discussion: people have their definitions and opinions of art. I know mine, I know what I like, and that's all I'm concerned with.

@Chad: I play. That's what I do.

[ChadTower]

What's that supposed to mean Chad?

It's a creation along the lines of sculpture.

[danny_galaga]

And really we all know that "unmessed" really means "the state of the movies when the release date happened".  It's not like anything of that nature is ever really "finished".  It's just the latest revision prior to the due date.

 They are also getting the guy that ruined Star Trek to come over and ruin Star Wars as well.  So sci-fi is dead.

You are supposing that all sci-fi has to come out of the US...