Author Topic: Question about Wacko Arcade rarity (Read 18562 times)

ChadTower · « **Reply #40 on:** November 04, 2012, 08:55:11 pm »

Quote from: yotsuya on November 04, 2012, 01:58:54 am

You can't sleep in a cab.

It might be possible. It's pretty warm inside a cab, too, once the monitor works.

yotsuya · « **Reply #41 on:** November 04, 2012, 09:16:04 pm »

Sleeping in a Wacko probably wouldn't be good for your spine.

Seriously, Keith, pay your rent. Don't get to the point where you need to chop the cab up for firewood.

KeithPuetz · « **Reply #42 on:** November 05, 2012, 01:09:39 pm »

Yeah I hear ya.

Can't find a Wacko PCB any where! And I can't find any programmable PCB to replace it with either, the only I can find is from PhoenixArcade and they don't support the game Wacko and don't plan on to ever supporting it. This stinks..

TopJimmyCooks · « **Reply #43 on:** November 05, 2012, 01:17:32 pm »

If you've really gotta play wacko, just install a pc and reversibly mame it. Arcade vga card for the monitor and optiwiz for the trackball interface, and Bob's your uncle. then if the PCB ever gets repaired or replaced, reverse it and you're allowed to post on Klov again.

KeithPuetz · « **Reply #44 on:** November 05, 2012, 01:38:13 pm »

And bobs my uncle

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #45 on:** November 05, 2012, 01:46:39 pm »

Meh ... first question should be "is there a programmable board that will play Wacko".

Then you can evaluate non-intrusive options (because you are going to have to rewire the trackball).

yotsuya · « **Reply #46 on:** November 05, 2012, 01:48:36 pm »

Keith-

Did you try seeing if someone at KLOV does Wacko repairs? It's a Bally/Midway game, someone might.

Try this thread. It's old, but not resolved:

http://forums.arcade-museum.com/showthread.php?t=148990&highlight=Wacko+PCB

Nephasth · « **Reply #47 on:** November 05, 2012, 01:59:19 pm »

Sell it to someone who will fix it.

ChadTower · « **Reply #48 on:** November 05, 2012, 02:01:08 pm »

Or trade it for a less Wacky game that can be more easily mamed.

dextercf · « **Reply #49 on:** November 05, 2012, 05:15:49 pm »

Flip it and Get into ping pong.
Can't go wrong with Ping pong?

Sent from my iPhonophonoponononon.

KeithPuetz · « **Reply #50 on:** November 05, 2012, 08:28:14 pm »

I decided to blow it up with dynamite.

And dance around it

Considering all options right now. (BESIDES BLOWING IT UP!)
I am in no rush, I am working on my other cade right now and I am broke.

RayB · « **Reply #51 on:** November 05, 2012, 10:36:35 pm »

REPAIR THE BOARD

KeithPuetz · « **Reply #52 on:** November 06, 2012, 08:32:38 am »

Yes, sir!

KeithPuetz · « **Reply #53 on:** November 06, 2012, 12:14:38 pm »

Hell. I may just flip it..

I just found S.A.M.I. on Craigslist for 500 dollars..
And.. There is a U-Boat arcade machine that is practically new (there was a warehouse found with a bunch of new ones recently)
Trying to figure out which one is more my style.
Would like some input from you guys.
I am afraid one of those may be so old when something does go wrong (inevitable) that the piece would be so old that it would be irreplaceable.

Video games are cool and all. But S.A.M.I. is a masterpiece.
U-Boat sounds great too, especially because it's similar and it's brand new and selling at close to the same price.
Does anyone know any more information on it. All I can find is that little page on KLOV. No real pictures or video or anything. Can't find anything on youtube about it either.

yotsuya · « **Reply #54 on:** November 06, 2012, 01:15:09 pm »

Make this guy an offer. He used a larger font. Clearly he's serious.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/fod/3390803085.html

Scratch that. Did you take care of the rent first? I worry about you, man. MAME machines and dedicated machines are beasts of a different nature.

I just found those machines you were looking at (they're listed for $600, btw). Honestly, if you can't fix a Wacko, what makes you think you can fix one of those old EM games if they break down? It's your money, my friend, but I would urge you to resist the temptation.

Nephasth · « **Reply #55 on:** November 06, 2012, 01:56:40 pm »

Keith, please don't get distracted by dedicated machines until you finish your Mario Bros MAME...

KeithPuetz · « **Reply #56 on:** November 06, 2012, 03:39:57 pm »

Quote from: yotsuya on November 06, 2012, 01:15:09 pm

Make this guy an offer. He used a larger font. Clearly he's serious.

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/wvl/fod/3390803085.html

Scratch that. Did you take care of the rent first? I worry about you, man. MAME machines and dedicated machines are beasts of a different nature.

I just found those machines you were looking at (they're listed for $600, btw). Honestly, if you can't fix a Wacko, what makes you think you can fix one of those old EM games if they break down? It's your money, my friend, but I would urge you to resist the temptation.

I can fix Wacko. But since it's the pcb that is broken I figured I would just put all the spinner games on it while I'm at it.
I am capable of fixing Wacko, I am, it's just I thought the idea I just mentioned was better suited for my wants.
Since I am capable of fixing these machines (not personally), I am not TOO concerned about getting S.A.M.I.

To Neph:
I know! Have you ever seen that game before? It's soo COOL! *DROOL*
Hahaha! Don't worry, I'll stay focused on getting the parts for the CP. Still awaiting Rick, he says he working on it but that was a day and a half ago.

CheffoJeffo · « **Reply #57 on:** November 06, 2012, 04:09:52 pm »

Why do I feel like we are being trolled ?

I can think of another Arizonian BYOACer who mistook trackball for spinner and am wondering if this is yet another alter ego ...

yotsuya · « **Reply #58 on:** November 06, 2012, 05:29:14 pm »

Quote from: CheffoJeffo on November 06, 2012, 04:09:52 pm

I can think of another Arizonian BYOACer who mistook trackball for spinner and am wondering if this is yet another alter ego ...

Really? Before my time (Summer 2010)?

KeithPuetz · « **Reply #59 on:** November 06, 2012, 11:18:59 pm »

How does it seem like I am trolling?
I am obviously doing everything I am saying.
I don't know what you're talking about

dextercf · « **Reply #60 on:** November 07, 2012, 02:46:31 am »

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=no&tl=en&u=http://www.npolar.no/no/om-oss/norsk-polarinstitutt-i-sor/troll.html

Sent from my iPhonophonoponononon.

matsadona · « **Reply #61 on:** November 07, 2012, 04:13:15 am »

This thread is a bit confusing, so maybe I missed that, but did you really determine that the board is broken?
Can’t find any information about any performed troubleshooting, like verifying all voltages etc.

KeithPuetz · « **Reply #62 on:** November 07, 2012, 08:32:28 am »

Never did any trouble shooting before, I was never pointed in the right direction to do so.

yotsuya · « **Reply #63 on:** November 07, 2012, 09:29:29 am »

Quote from: KeithPuetz on November 07, 2012, 08:32:28 am

Never did any trouble shooting before, I was never pointed in the right direction to do so.

In the upper right-hand corner there's a box called Search. Type in PCB testing. You're welcome.

Also, do the same thing at the KLOV forums. Double welcome.

ChadTower · « **Reply #64 on:** November 07, 2012, 09:37:24 am »

He needs to start at the power supply. Not the PCB. Power supply is first in troubleshooting.

yotsuya · « **Reply #65 on:** November 07, 2012, 09:41:51 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on November 07, 2012, 09:37:24 am

He needs to start at the power supply. Not the PCB. Power supply is first in troubleshooting.

I know that, and you know that, but... I mean.....

ChadTower · « **Reply #66 on:** November 07, 2012, 09:51:06 am »

...but we're trying to tell him where to start, yes?

He can search on PCB troubleshooting all day and it won't do him a minute's good if he's not getting proper voltages to begin with. His symptoms make me suspect the power supply is at least one of the problems.

KeithPuetz · « **Reply #67 on:** November 07, 2012, 10:23:26 am »

I don't know this stuff like it's on the back of my hand like more than half of you in here.
I am simply posting here to make sure I do all this right, that's all...

I like the machine, I may keep it, and if I do, I'll probably fix the board AND get a VGA reversably mame it.
Than there will be no damage done, I'll be fixing it if anything, and I'll get what I want out of it.
I'll start with the power supply and work my way up.
I don't know what you replace after the power supply. But I'll type in "Trouble Shooting PCB" in the search bar.
See, I know how to use the search bar..
Sorry asking how to trouble shoot the PCB frusterated you Yotsu, I was asking if someone had a preferred resource, I am sure some ARE better than others...
I'll stop asking questions about this, and when I have time to fix this thing, I will just use the search bar so no one gets frusterated?
Now everyone happy? $:-\$

ChadTower · « **Reply #68 on:** November 07, 2012, 10:42:05 am »

Sigh. Well, I tried.

KeithPuetz · « **Reply #69 on:** November 07, 2012, 10:45:22 am »

I'm listening..

yotsuya · « **Reply #70 on:** November 07, 2012, 10:51:16 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on November 07, 2012, 09:51:06 am

He can search on PCB troubleshooting all day and it won't do him a minute's good if he's not getting proper voltages to begin with. His symptoms make me suspect the power supply is at least one of the problems.

If you read his posts, he's convinced it's the PCB. I'd at least like to point him in the right direction as far as finding info. He can learn for himself if he's wrong. But yes, you did try!

Keith, Chad is probably right. Case in point- I have an Atari Asteroids that kept rebooting the other day. I knew the PCB worked, so I tweaked the Voltage Output knob just a tiny bit- now it works with no issue. Go to KLOV or look here and search for power suppy testing.

And KLOV and BYOAC ARE the preferred resources... but you've been told that. That's where the headbanging comes in to play. I ready KLOV regularly and haven't seen you post a repair thread there. There are guys there that can help. Just ask.

ChadTower · « **Reply #71 on:** November 07, 2012, 10:53:40 am »

Start HERE. You are going to verify the voltages on your power supply. There is no point in doing anything else until this is verified as good.

The answer is not to replace the power supply. It is to fix the power supply.

yotsuya · « **Reply #72 on:** November 07, 2012, 10:57:40 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on November 07, 2012, 10:53:40 am

Start HERE. You are going to verify the voltages on your power supply. There is no point in doing anything else until this is verified as good.

The answer is not to replace the power supply. It is to fix the power supply.

Good link. Keith, there's a Harbor Freight on 35th and Bethany. You can probably get a decent multimeter for cheap if you don't have one already.

matsadona · « **Reply #73 on:** November 08, 2012, 03:59:45 am »

My experience is also that a bad PSU is the root cause for many game board issues. The 5 Volt is very critical for all game logics, and it draws a significant current. So bad wiring can also be the issue.
So this what I would do:
* measure the voltages at the PSU without the game board connected (to make sure there is no major problem)
* measure the voltages at the game board, since there could be a huge voltage drop in bad wiring

Most games need to be within 4.9 to 5.1 V in order to operate properly. But that can vary a lot, so don’t see that as the only truth, just a general guideline. Bad wiring/connectors is usually causing resistance, and resistance causes voltage drop (Ohms law). So there could be one or two volts being waste from the PSU to the game board.

Usually there are also reference points at the game board that should be verified for correct voltages. Else you could measure the VCC pin at any random logic IC.

If all voltages are correct, my next step would be to check all socketed IC’s. Eroded pins can be the issue or just some glitch that could be solved by reseating them.

I would also look for bad soldering at the bottom side of the game board.

That should give you something to start with. There are plenty of us that would be happy to help you, preserving this (or any) game.
But yes, the Search function should also be used. Nobody at the forums like people coming from nowhere asking “My car doesn’t start, what is the problem?” without specifying any details of the problem nor the model of the car etc.

KeithPuetz · « **Reply #74 on:** November 10, 2012, 11:17:12 am »

This wacko machine is for sale if anybody is interested - lost job

TopJimmyCooks · « **Reply #75 on:** November 10, 2012, 11:20:55 am »

Ah, ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---. sorry to hear that, dude.

RayB · « **Reply #76 on:** November 12, 2012, 09:21:39 pm »

Not surprising really.

KeithPuetz · « **Reply #77 on:** November 12, 2012, 10:49:49 pm »

Yup, yup, this country is going to ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---.

MTPPC · « **Reply #78 on:** November 12, 2012, 11:35:40 pm »

I saw a whacko at the pinball hall of fame in Vegas last year. It seems like a great game to mame. With just a couple buttons, you could probably play quite a handful of games with good controls.

yotsuya · « **Reply #79 on:** November 12, 2012, 11:37:09 pm »

You're kidding, right? I can't think of too many games that would feel right on that slanted control panel.


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Author Topic: Question about Wacko Arcade rarity (Read 18562 times)

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