Author Topic: 1998 E3 CD found.. (Read 10453 times)

dre-w · « **on:** January 30, 2012, 01:15:08 am »

So I was at the swapmeet today digging through some boxes and found one factory sealed, got it for a buck. It just says 1998 E3. Acclaim, Product Info, Screen Shots, Video Clips. Also has random video game character artwork on the cd. I was going to open it as I'm eager to look at the stuff on it but then started wondering if this holds any value being sealed and all.. can't seem to find any info on this...

gavkiwi · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2012, 10:25:48 am »

I personally think there was a reason its been left sealed since 1998

If it were me, I'd crack it open, and have a good laugh at the small resolution, pixelated video files on the disc. The only value it has is from a nostalgic pov.

Just my 2c

Malenko · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2012, 01:21:32 pm »

I'll give you $2 for it.

100% profit

DaveMMR · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2012, 02:04:34 pm »

Methinks this would be one of those items where being sealed would not make a difference in value. Matter of fact, sealed is often thought of as "more valuable" by a few, but for a lot of old items, it's simply not the case. A lot of buyers avoid sealed items since it's easy to fake and/or put worthless items in a box (unless they really, really know what to look for).

Open it up and check out life in the stone age of 1998.

Richard_Nixon · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2012, 02:47:19 pm »

Quote from: pinballjim on January 30, 2012, 02:20:01 pm

Might need to microwave the disc for a few seconds to get the moisture out of the capacitors.

Maybe he can use a heatgun?

abispac · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2012, 05:59:36 pm »

Quote from: pinballjim on January 30, 2012, 02:20:01 pm

Might need to microwave the disc for a few seconds to get the moisture out of the capacitors.

a you bastard, i did that with my cd and it blew my microwave...God why did i listen to you in the first place,,,aghhhhhhhhh

Just kidding.

dre-w · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2012, 09:23:45 pm »

Ha thanks guys. Yeh I'm pretty sure it's not fake sealed, since I got it for only a dollar and it was buried in the bottom of a box, and it's not the traditional fake seal with the melted plastic, were talkin OG with the flaps and idk who would put the effort into fake sealin this. Plus the lady sellin off all these boxes of cds clearly had no idea what she had.. she just said "All cd's one dollar".. most of it was music but there were a couple games mixed in.. from this same lady I came up on Resident Evil 2 for PS1 (2 discs box) for $2, tried to talk her down to $1.50 but she wasn't havin it since there were 2 cds inside, also got Road Rash (PS1), Rippin' Riders (Dreamcast), Street Fighter Alpha 3 (Dreamcast) all for a dollar each and are minty.

I haven't really decided yet if I'm going to open it up. I really want to, mainly for the Turok picture it shows b/c I used to love that game when I was younger. The artwork on the cd also shows Forsaken, South Park, and random football player.

I'll see if I can upload a picture of it later whenever my phone decides to start working again..

DaveMMR · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2012, 09:45:54 pm »

Quote from: dre-w on January 30, 2012, 09:23:45 pm

Yeh I'm pretty sure it's not fake sealed, since I got it for only a dollar and it was buried in the bottom of a box, and it's not the traditional fake seal with the melted plastic, were talkin OG with the flaps and idk who would put the effort into fake sealin this.

Heh, I doubt that was fake-sealed. Not worth the effort. It's not exactly "Stadium Events". LOL Just saying shrink-wrap doesn't always necessarily add to the value of things if there is interest in it.

Come to think of it, it may very well have come from someone who went to Acclaim for their ever-so-wonderful game tester position. I actually went down to their offices in Great Neck, Long Island and came home with a bunch of swag - all of which I promptly tossed (no, nothing I regretted trashing). That promo CD could very well have been handed out to prospective testers back in 98.

I'm not surprised no one wanted to watch it; Acclaim was always barely-adequate but this was around the time they were becoming straight-up terrible.

dre-w · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2012, 10:37:37 pm »

Quote from: DaveMMR on January 30, 2012, 09:45:54 pm

I actually went down to their offices in Great Neck, Long Island and came home with a bunch of swag - all of which I promptly tossed (no, nothing I regretted trashing).

LOL!

Right on, yeh most likely I'll just end up opening it.. but lets face it, we know it's going to be pretty bad, so maybe some things are just better left unopened.. and I can just always appreciate it for the sake of have something so obscure still sealed from E3 '98..

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #9 on:** January 31, 2012, 01:26:46 pm »

Quote from: pinballjim on January 31, 2012, 11:57:40 am

The best part of this story is about how you haggled over 50 cents.

+1

I'm not even that cheap, and you couldn't possibly fathom how cheap I am.

ChadTower · « **Reply #10 on:** January 31, 2012, 02:22:55 pm »

Some people like to haggle. I used to absolutely despise it but I did learn to do it after a while.

dre-w · « **Reply #11 on:** January 31, 2012, 09:35:13 pm »

Ha, I was wondering if anyone was going to mention that.. Although I do love me some haggling, the reason for that was simply because I only had that much on me. Didn't want to have to get charged a fee at a swapmeet ATM and also my wife had wandered off somewhere and I really didn't feel like havin to call her over 50 cents, so I figured what the heck it's only 50 cents lady! ..eventually my wife came back with some sweet moolah

haggle it

yotsuya · « **Reply #12 on:** February 01, 2012, 01:15:52 am »

Just yesterday, this guy had this item I wanted on Craigslist for $150. I thought "WTF, why not?" so I channeled my inner PBJ and emailed him, telling him that I had $100 cash in hand if he couldn't get rid of it in a few days and wanted to sell.

He just emailed me and told me $100 would be fine. I'm picking it up tomorrow.

to you, James!

Vigo · « **Reply #13 on:** February 01, 2012, 01:30:55 am »

"inner PBJ"

If you start making arcade cabinets with "adult themes", that means you have channeled too far.

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #14 on:** February 01, 2012, 04:10:25 am »

Quote from: dre-w on January 30, 2012, 10:37:37 pm

Quote from: DaveMMR on January 30, 2012, 09:45:54 pm
I actually went down to their offices in Great Neck, Long Island and came home with a bunch of swag - all of which I promptly tossed (no, nothing I regretted trashing).

LOL! Right on, yeh most likely I'll just end up opening it.. but lets face it, we know it's going to be pretty bad, so maybe some things are just better left unopened.. and I can just always appreciate it for the sake of have something so obscure still sealed from E3 '98..

Just open the thing and post the crappy, mpeg1 videos and 640x480 concept art somewhere so we can all have a laugh.

I mean you might find a "gem" like this:

The video is terrible, but check it out.... creepy Transformers voice-over guy was still working in 98!

yotsuya · « **Reply #15 on:** February 01, 2012, 10:50:03 am »

Quote from: pinballjim on February 01, 2012, 09:45:22 am

Quote from: yotsuya on February 01, 2012, 01:15:52 am
to you, James!

Nothing shameful about a straight forward no hassle cash offer.

It's the "I got $xxx cash in hand" line I've always liked. I used it myself, to great results.

Donkbaca · « **Reply #16 on:** February 01, 2012, 12:21:46 pm »

Yeah, that and the slightly more passive aggressive, can you break a hundred? question...

Vigo · « **Reply #17 on:** February 01, 2012, 12:38:55 pm »

Just as long as you aren't the guy who shows up and says "yeah, you see, I only got $75 on me...."

dre-w · « **Reply #18 on:** February 01, 2012, 09:23:39 pm »

Quote from: Howard_Casto on February 01, 2012, 04:10:25 am

Just open the thing and post the crappy, mpeg1 videos and 640x480 concept art somewhere so we can all have a laugh. I mean you might find a "gem" like this:

The video is terrible, but check it out.... creepy Transformers voice-over guy was still working in 98!

LOL. Howard, you have me convinced! I'll open it up this weekend though, I'm meeting up with a friend and I know he will enjoy witnessing the unboxing of this masterpiece..

dre-w · « **Reply #19 on:** February 05, 2012, 02:36:51 am »

umm... problem. Opened up the cd, won't play/read on any of my computers or consoles so I'm pretty sure its an old cd-rom.. how do I get this to work on my computer?? Do I have to d/l a DOS emulator or something? I'm running Vista, but it doesn't even show up in the D drive, when I right click and select Explore it just spits the disc out and says Please Insert A Disc

..I knew I should've just left it sealed

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #20 on:** February 05, 2012, 05:59:54 am »

Well a modern pc should be able to read anything new enough to be on cdrom. Is it a mac disc? You should still be able to open it, but it might be causeing errors.

The easiest way to read/repair it is to make an iso of the image and open it in a hex editor.

lilshawn · « **Reply #21 on:** February 05, 2012, 10:14:10 am »

oh noes! bit rot!

no, it's most likely the fancy laser in your drive might just be having a hard time picking up the data. i have disks i burned 20 years ago that don't read in my brand new drive but work fine in my older (5 years old maybe) dvd burner in my other computer.

TL:DR - try another cd rom drive.

dre-w · « **Reply #22 on:** February 05, 2012, 12:14:14 pm »

I have tried it on 2 computers, both showing that there is no disc inserted. And just for the hell of it, I tried it on the PS3, Xbox, an old dvd player and still got either no disc showing up or Disc Error.

How would I know if it's a mac disc? I'll upload some scans in just a sec.

dre-w · « **Reply #23 on:** February 05, 2012, 12:33:46 pm »

..sorry idk how to make the small thumbnail view.

not sure if you can see it but the matrix runout numbers are

*1R* E31998 IFPIL434 B A1

if that helps at all

Vigo · « **Reply #24 on:** February 05, 2012, 12:52:48 pm »

Aww.....how cute. Brett Favre's petting a dinosaur.

Pinball Wizard · « **Reply #25 on:** February 05, 2012, 01:51:10 pm »

If you have dual CD drives in a computer, try booting an Ubuntu Live CD. Best bet IMO. It will read Mac, Windows, and Linux formats and if that can't read it, then you sound SOL.

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #26 on:** February 05, 2012, 04:42:19 pm »

For more info contact.... Michael Meyers?

GET OUT OF THE HOUSE!! GET OUT OF THE HOUSE NOW!!!

Donkbaca · « **Reply #27 on:** February 06, 2012, 12:04:16 pm »

Looks more like Brett Farve is donky punchign that dinosaur. What the hell game is that about? Farve's Donky Punching Dino Extravaganza!

gavkiwi · « **Reply #28 on:** February 06, 2012, 01:51:08 pm »

Maybe the disc has just gone bad

, or maybe it was defective from the get go. I remember PC gaming in 1998, and it had some good games, and some bad ones, but I don't recall any good games from Akklaim, maybe from a nostalgic pov, it would have been fun to have a look back at this. But you are more persistent than me, I'd have chunked it in the trash and cut my losses by now (time & money)

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #29 on:** February 06, 2012, 02:27:06 pm »

Hey wasn't there some stupid security feature that some discs used in the late 90's? It was bypassed easily.... you held down left shift while it loads or something....

lilshawn · « **Reply #30 on:** February 06, 2012, 02:51:42 pm »

it's got a name and number, ring Michael Myers up and tell him what a bitc..... wait...maybe not.

Vigo · « **Reply #31 on:** February 06, 2012, 03:50:08 pm »

Well, your CD seems to capture all the gaming excitement of late 90's Acclaim.

dre-w · « **Reply #32 on:** February 06, 2012, 10:01:03 pm »

Thanks for the tips guys. I tried it on my computer at work today b/c it has Windows 7 and got the same results..

When I inserted the disc, took a long time to load the green bar at the top and when it finally got done making all these noises, nothing happened. Tried right clicking on the drive and Explore and it just spit it out and told me to insert a disc..

I don't know if you guys can tell from the scan but.. (maybe I should have mentioned this earlier) but the bottom of the disc looks funky, it looks almost as if it has a clear layer over the shiny silver.. sorry idk how to explain it but it just looks like there's a layer covering the bottom.

Unfortunately I don't have dual cd drives on my computers.. I mean, my tower is setup for that but it only has one it, I guess I could go get another one if it comes down to that.. lets hope it doesn't b/c at this point I HAVE to see what's on this disc

Anymore ideas..? I guess I'll try looking into the security feature for now and also see if I can find an older computer to try it on. Someone at work suggested that maybe it's one of those 24 hrs discs that erases itself.. not sure if those were even around then.. another suggested that maybe it's one of those discs that can only be opened with certain programs (real player, quicktime, etc..) tried those and no luck

lilshawn · « **Reply #33 on:** February 06, 2012, 10:03:47 pm »

coaster.

gavkiwi · « **Reply #34 on:** February 07, 2012, 09:46:46 am »

My theory is that the disc has experienced some sort of disc 'rot'. It is more than likely in the last 13-14 years that the disc may not have been stored in the most ideal circumstances, i.e extreme temperature differences between hot and cold. Again just a theory, but it would explain why every single cd or dvd player you have tried netted zero results with what is on the disc.

This article is kinda old, but might give a little insight into what went wrong with your disc

http://www.audioholics.com/education/audio-formats-technology/cd-and-dvd-longevity-how-long-will-they-last

personally, if it were me, I'd use it for a skeet lol.....Pull !!!!

Vigo · « **Reply #35 on:** February 07, 2012, 10:07:13 am »

You should let Throwback Entertainment, The owners of the defunct Acclaim library, know your E3 CD doesn't work. They'd probably get a kick out of that.

dre-w · « **Reply #36 on:** February 07, 2012, 02:36:44 pm »

WTF is up with this cd??? So the other day I noticed there were some slight smudges on the silver side, but I really couldn't wipe them off b/c there's like some clear layer over it, so I just put it back in the case.. this morning I took it out to look at the back and now there's like all this white powdery stuff smeared all around the bottom.. like someone spilled milk all over it and it dried up. I don't get why it would do this now.. I mean it was factory sealed but it wasn't like it was air tight

lilshawn · « **Reply #37 on:** February 07, 2012, 02:40:51 pm »

Quote from: Malenko on January 30, 2012, 01:21:32 pm

I'll give you $2 for it.

100% profit

so how much for it now?

yotsuya · « **Reply #38 on:** February 07, 2012, 03:24:28 pm »

Quote from: dre-w on February 07, 2012, 02:36:44 pm

WTF is up with this cd??? So the other day I noticed there were some slight smudges on the silver side, but I really couldn't wipe them off b/c there's like some clear layer over it, so I just put it back in the case.. this morning I took it out to look at the back and now there's like all this white powdery stuff smeared all around the bottom.

Anthrax.

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #39 on:** February 07, 2012, 03:27:11 pm »

Nope it was Acclaim's "coke" cd..... That explains why they went under.


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