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Myst is on Iphone!
« on: January 19, 2012, 11:23:26 pm »
I just found out the game that revolutionized CD gamming can now be played on your iphone!
I always felt that playing through this game was one of the greatest game experience I ever had and still ever had to this day. If you have any sense of challenge then you will want to figure this world out.








If you do play this game don’t look up anything! That’s the whole point of the game! You are alone trapped on an island trying to figure out how to get out. The clues are all in the game you just have to be smart enough to put them together. If you simply can’t figure any of it out then at least you will know that you are simple far less inelegant then I was back in high school  :-[  Also remember this game came out before there was really an internet.

Even though it a point and click game the nice atmosphere sound effects make it easy to get immersed. So sit back relax and let MYST become your world!

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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2012, 05:55:55 am »
A shame realMyst wouldn't play comfortably on a device like that:

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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2012, 08:34:37 am »
Nice ... wish they had an HD version for the iPad, but I was happy to see the 7th Guest show up when I checked the App Store, so I'll have two classic immersives to play.
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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2012, 10:44:40 am »
Nice ... wish they had an HD version for the iPad, but I was happy to see the 7th Guest show up when I checked the App Store, so I'll have two classic immersives to play.

Oh, 7th Guest is out? I'd been following their Facebook page then somehow lost track. I'm off to get it! Thanks.

Edit: Son of a ---smurfette---....iOS 4.3 and up....grrrr.... (I only have a 2nd gen touch, which it was going to support back when they were working on the port)
« Last Edit: January 20, 2012, 10:51:53 am by Ginsu Victim »

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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #4 on: January 20, 2012, 02:40:11 pm »
Great, more rehash of 1990s.   ::)

Glad to see the "original gaming" community is working overtime on new devices.
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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2012, 03:38:30 pm »
Ark, why the ---fudgesicle--- do you hang out here ?

You seem to hate everything that has anything to do with retro gaming.
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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2012, 04:24:34 pm »
Yeah, at least be like me and limit the retro hate to trackball games!

I have had Myst on my iphone for like a year now, the graphics are better than they were on the PC.  FWIW I think the iphone is the perfect platform for these old point and click adventure type games

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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #7 on: January 20, 2012, 05:30:29 pm »
Ark, why the ---fudgesicle--- do you hang out here ?

You seem to hate everything that has anything to do with retro gaming.

I'm more pro retro than you think.  I do not believe retro belongs on modern devices.  Emulators yes, old pokey games on decent hardware specs?  Oh No!

I tired of seeing the old hash and rehash instead of new improvisations of games like the Namco Museum Battle releases for the PSP.  Can we see that in new releases?  Oh No!

Nice to see Dragon's Lair on Android, but does it have to appear on nearly every platform?  Can the guys make a new Dragon's Lair in house and bundle the old favorite in?  Oh No!

What about emulators?  Why can't you play Myst on a emulator?  Oh no! 



Hmmmm.
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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #8 on: January 20, 2012, 07:28:42 pm »
Ark, why the ---fudgesicle--- do you hang out here ?

You seem to hate everything that has anything to do with retro gaming.

I'm more pro retro than you think.  I do not believe retro belongs on modern devices.  Emulators yes, old pokey games on decent hardware specs?  Oh No!

I tired of seeing the old hash and rehash instead of new improvisations of games like the Namco Museum Battle releases for the PSP.  Can we see that in new releases?  Oh No!

Nice to see Dragon's Lair on Android, but does it have to appear on nearly every platform?  Can the guys make a new Dragon's Lair in house and bundle the old favorite in?  Oh No!

What about emulators?  Why can't you play Myst on a emulator?  Oh no! 



Hmmmm.

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1.  Yes because my old 486 dx still works wonderfully and even if it didn't those games will still run just fine on my windows 7 pc without the need for complex emulators!  Also my 486dx is one of those magic ones you can fit in my pocket!  You are absolutely right!

2.  Yes because pac-man and dig dug aren't timeless classics, pac-man and digdug "arrangement" are!

3.  Yeah because Don Bluth still makes animations for laserdisc games, he'll do em for free too... let me call him to get right on that!  He's a nice guy too, he doesn't indiscriminantly serve cease and desist orders to anyone trying to make games with his characters at all!  I mean it's not like he's filed C&D orders to people who've tried to make a fan game based on unused concept art of an unreleased game or anything.

4.  Yeah because it takes far less effort to get dos-box ported and properly running on a system that lacks pc architecture than it does to simply rework and enhance the one game you actually wanted to release.

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Listen man.... I've been doing pointless angry rants on this forum for over 14 years........  pick your battles and make sure you have a point first.  ;)

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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #9 on: January 20, 2012, 08:41:45 pm »
Listen man.... I've been doing pointless angry rants on this forum for over 14 years........  pick your battles and make sure you have a point first.  ;)

I think that is simultaneously the best and the most honest statement that I have ever seen here.

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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2012, 11:12:34 pm »
Listen man.... I've been doing pointless angry rants on this forum for over 14 years........  pick your battles and make sure you have a point first.  ;)

I think that is simultaneously the best and the most honest statement that I have ever seen here.

Awesome.

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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #11 on: January 20, 2012, 11:29:54 pm »
i still have Myst and it's sequel Riven. great games!

i'mma hafta dig them suckas out an play e'm again!

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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #12 on: January 21, 2012, 12:06:20 am »
Listen man.... I've been doing pointless angry rants on this forum for over 14 years........  pick your battles and make sure you have a point first.  ;)

I think that is simultaneously the best and the most honest statement that I have ever seen here.

Awesome.

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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #13 on: January 21, 2012, 01:06:03 am »
I was just thinking how bad ass it would be if they re-created Myst world inside Skyrim.




They could totally do it with those nice graphics and make it look sweet. They could have the Myst book sitting in some mage tower. If you finish the whole game that Scriber who got himself trapped in the book will give you a reword; like let you take one of his magic books off a shelf or something. That’s such a great idea someone should make an add-on for that.
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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #14 on: January 21, 2012, 06:12:15 am »
Listen man.... I've been doing pointless angry rants on this forum for over 14 years........  pick your battles and make sure you have a point first.  ;)

I think that is simultaneously the best and the most honest statement that I have ever seen here.

Awesome.

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I agree that retro has a place on new devices.  It is so boring to see it.

What I do not see is innovation of old games.  Pacman Championship DX is a prime example and that was done by the original programmer.

If you purchase the same game over and over, it just creates lazy programmers, bad ports and tired products.
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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #15 on: January 21, 2012, 06:38:39 am »
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1.  Yes because my old 486 dx still works wonderfully and even if it didn't those games will still run just fine on my windows 7 pc without the need for complex emulators!  Also my 486dx is one of those magic ones you can fit in my pocket!  You are absolutely right!

My Galaxy S has a good working x86 emulator as well as a PSX emulator.  Please tell me why I cannot use that to run Myst?  Well I do actually.  It rocks on my Android Tegra 2 Tablet.

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2.  Yes because pac-man and dig dug aren't timeless classics, pac-man and digdug "arrangement" are!

Taken out of context.  This was an example of innovation from the original developers.  Like PacMan Championship Edition DX.

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3.  Yeah because Don Bluth still makes animations for laserdisc games, he'll do em for free too... let me call him to get right on that!  He's a nice guy too, he doesn't indiscriminantly serve cease and desist orders to anyone trying to make games with his characters at all!  I mean it's not like he's filed C&D orders to people who've tried to make a fan game based on unused concept art of an unreleased game or anything.

Digital Leisure still makes alternative games on the same genre.  Arcade hardware development in 1983 was very expensive as was the creation of the content.  Today you can run a script that will do the same job, and can be flash instead of hand drawn animation.  At $4.99 a download I am sure Mr Bluth would make his money back and some.  In my original post I am referring to ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS not copyists Howard.  ::)  BTW have you met Mr Bluth?  Have you met Gary Goldman? I have and yes it was a thrill to speak to them.

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4.  Yeah because it takes far less effort to get dos-box ported and properly running on a system that lacks pc architecture than it does to simply rework and enhance the one game you actually wanted to release.

You and I both now that is complete crap.  You can port a game to another platform.  How many ports are there of Mame on different architectures?  ::)  How many ports are there for Myst? Hello?  Earth calling Howard. ::)

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Listen man.... I've been doing pointless angry rants on this forum for over 14 years.

Well I know of your pointless rants of the past 4 years, so I will have to take your word on the rest. 

Congratulations Howard it is 2012 your 15th year of pointless rants.  Keep em coming!   :applaud:

 




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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #16 on: January 21, 2012, 09:04:12 am »
Quote from: ark_ader link=topic=117400.msg1244104#msg1244104

If you purchase the same game over and over, it just creates lazy programmers, bad ports and tired products.

No one is forcing you to buy anything. There are tons of apps that are fresh and original you can spend your money on. Don't see why this bugs you so much.

Personally I like old games being rereleased for new hardware. Many people don't know how or are unwilling to get old games working on modern computers and this gives them a chance to experience them.
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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #17 on: January 21, 2012, 04:26:51 pm »
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No one is forcing you to buy anything. There are tons of apps that are fresh and original you can spend your money on. Don't see why this bugs you so much.

Personally I like old games being rereleased for new hardware. Many people don't know hiw or are unwilling to get old games working on modern computers and this gives them a chance to experience them.


Exactly Myst works so great on the Iphone 4 S it was almost like it was made for it to begin with.

By the way on a different topic is the iphone 4s come from the distant future or dropped off by aliens? I just can’t comprehend how a device can be that small be so smooth and powerful, not get hot, has a camera better than some of my digital cameras that I own, has a screen so clear and vivid and can easily read books off of it. I was always reluctant to get any smart phone, thinking they were slow, bad battery life, expensive, and nothing that I could do on them would not be 4 times easer to just do on my pc. But man this thing is firkin awesome.

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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #18 on: January 21, 2012, 06:19:25 pm »
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1.  Yes because my old 486 dx still works wonderfully and even if it didn't those games will still run just fine on my windows 7 pc without the need for complex emulators!  Also my 486dx is one of those magic ones you can fit in my pocket!  You are absolutely right!

My Galaxy S has a good working x86 emulator as well as a PSX emulator.  Please tell me why I cannot use that to run Myst?  Well I do actually.  It rocks on my Android Tegra 2 Tablet.

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2.  Yes because pac-man and dig dug aren't timeless classics, pac-man and digdug "arrangement" are!

Taken out of context.  This was an example of innovation from the original developers.  Like PacMan Championship Edition DX.

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3.  Yeah because Don Bluth still makes animations for laserdisc games, he'll do em for free too... let me call him to get right on that!  He's a nice guy too, he doesn't indiscriminantly serve cease and desist orders to anyone trying to make games with his characters at all!  I mean it's not like he's filed C&D orders to people who've tried to make a fan game based on unused concept art of an unreleased game or anything.

Digital Leisure still makes alternative games on the same genre.  Arcade hardware development in 1983 was very expensive as was the creation of the content.  Today you can run a script that will do the same job, and can be flash instead of hand drawn animation.  At $4.99 a download I am sure Mr Bluth would make his money back and some.  In my original post I am referring to ORIGINAL DEVELOPERS not copyists Howard.  ::)  BTW have you met Mr Bluth?  Have you met Gary Goldman? I have and yes it was a thrill to speak to them.

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4.  Yeah because it takes far less effort to get dos-box ported and properly running on a system that lacks pc architecture than it does to simply rework and enhance the one game you actually wanted to release.

You and I both now that is complete crap.  You can port a game to another platform.  How many ports are there of Mame on different architectures?  ::)  How many ports are there for Myst? Hello?  Earth calling Howard. ::)

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Listen man.... I've been doing pointless angry rants on this forum for over 14 years.

Well I know of your pointless rants of the past 4 years, so I will have to take your word on the rest. 

Congratulations Howard it is 2012 your 15th year of pointless rants.  Keep em coming!   :applaud:

 







Ugh!!!! 

That was my nice simple, round-about way of saying "this isn't one you can win... let it go"  but since you replied.

1.  I never said you couldn't... I said it would be more cumbersome.  I think you forget something.... this is byoac... we aren't "normal" computer users.  Getting an unofficial app running on a tablet and then getting ahold of a 15 year old game and installing it on said emulator is pretty much impossible to the lamen.

2.  No it wasn't taken out of context.  You are saying that revisions are better than the original, it's seldom the case.  I love dx, for example...  but it's no ms. pacman. 

3.  Digital Leisure is NOT Don Bluth..... DL doesn't make crap, they hold the liscenses to stuff.  The few things they did do in house were just terrible and didn't contain any original footage.  My point was the only person that can do a proper DL sequel is don bluth, and he just isn't interested.  I'm glad you met him, good for you, but I can't call someone a nice guy when they've halted tiny fan projects based on obscure games that weren't hurting anybody.  Someone was working on a game that Starred Kimberly from space ace... it was all original animation and was going to be released for free.  Don Bluth studios threatened to sue the guy.  Someone else wanted to start a game based upon the single concept sketch DB released of a sailor and a mermaid.  The project was killed before it ever got off the ground. 

And aside form that... seriously?  You think a crappy flash game NOT done by bluth studios is going to be anywhere as good as the original?  What you are basically saying right there is you want sequels, even if they are of an inferior quality.

4.  I didn't say it was impossible.... I said it took more effort.  MAME is designed to be portable, dos box and similar x86 emulators aren't.  Porting something is easy, getting it to actually run well isn't.  Just for example... MAME was ported to the android recently.... version 37 that is.  Why?  Because MAME isn't optimized for android and thus it requires too much system resources.  On the other hand a emulator written for android from the ground up could probably do a much better job.  I beleive you when you say you got Myst running, but to be honest that's a shock to me.  Myst was pretty beefy back in the day and tablets (iphone excluded) don't have the greatest of specs.

You poor guy.... I put that comment at the end as a nice way of saying that YOUR rant is pointless.  All these rebuttals weren't the end-all-be-all end of the argument but examples to point out how foolish you looked saying those things as they were a definate.  But it went over your head I guess, good luck thinking there was a point to your outburst of getting ticked off when people were just complaining about you are constantly complaining.  ;)

Gotta love irony. 

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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #19 on: January 22, 2012, 08:42:34 am »
I'm not ticked off.  I'm not complaining as such.  But every time we have a new device we have this absolute desire to bang something that was made in 1990 on it.  Emulators aside this is lazy.

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And aside form that... seriously?  You think a crappy flash game NOT done by bluth studios is going to be anywhere as good as the original?  What you are basically saying right there is you want sequels, even if they are of an inferior quality.

Did I type that?  No.  Bluth can hire a bunch of Koreans to produce the next DL like George Lucas does with the Clone Wars.  You can have flash and keeping in house as an option.  Bluth's C&D is obvious.  It is his work, and he should protect it.  DLLC didn't jump on the DaphneDevs  and they created an outlet for DL content so it is not all doom and gloom.  You just have to keep your points in context with my replies and try not to go off tangent.  :police:

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Myst was pretty beefy back in the day and tablets (iphone excluded) don't have the greatest of specs.

No?  Well it was released on the PSX and my Galaxy S is not a powerhouse platform and it runs full speed.  Dragon's Lair for Android runs in Cupcake.  That is what 2009?  Should I buy it again?  I did.  ;D

Myst is a great game, but please let us have something else in Myst IOS that would make it better (like an improved storyline or graphics) to reflect today's technology and intelligence, not COPY+PASTE lazy high school programming concepts.
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« Reply #20 on: January 22, 2012, 10:11:36 am »
Myst is a great game, but please let us have something else in Myst IOS that would make it better (like an improved storyline or graphics) to reflect today's technology and intelligence, not COPY+PASTE lazy high school programming concepts.

But then, if they did what you suggested and changed the game, they'll be a different set of peopl who'd complain that they should have left it alone.  Can't please everyone I suppose. So why make a new game when you could port an existing one for a new generation?  It's definitely less costly and time consuming for them. And they'll still please a least some people who want to play it again without the hassles of digging out 15 year old hardware.

And it's not like this is unusual. How many times has Nintendo rereleased Super Mario Bros. for different hardware?

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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2012, 07:01:06 pm »
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Myst was pretty beefy back in the day and tablets (iphone excluded) don't have the greatest of specs.
It wasn't "beefy" at all. It's a glorified slideshow of still images and video sequences. CD-ROMs were just SLOW at transferring data back then.
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« Reply #22 on: January 30, 2012, 05:49:14 am »
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Myst was pretty beefy back in the day and tablets (iphone excluded) don't have the greatest of specs.
It wasn't "beefy" at all. It's a glorified slideshow of still images and video sequences. CD-ROMs were just SLOW at transferring data back then.


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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #23 on: January 30, 2012, 12:46:48 pm »
3.  Digital Leisure is NOT Don Bluth..... DL doesn't make crap, they hold the liscenses to stuff.  The few things they did do in house were just terrible and didn't contain any original footage.  My point was the only person that can do a proper DL sequel is don bluth, and he just isn't interested.  I'm glad you met him, good for you, but I can't call someone a nice guy when they've halted tiny fan projects based on obscure games that weren't hurting anybody.  Someone was working on a game that Starred Kimberly from space ace... it was all original animation and was going to be released for free.  Don Bluth studios threatened to sue the guy.  Someone else wanted to start a game based upon the single concept sketch DB released of a sailor and a mermaid.  The project was killed before it ever got off the ground. 

Don Bluth did not threaten to sue over the Space Ace: Kimberly's Quest project. The project was going fine until the creator submitted his work to Bluth's company for their blessing. He received a personal letter from Goldman saying that they absolutely loved the project, but had to politely ask him to not continue as they were unclear about what license issues it would run into. No Demand, no threats, just no blessing. (The letter didn't specify much as to why, but I am assuming that if Bluth co knowingly gave the nod to this project, they would be the ones liable due to their total license agreement with digital leisure. The agreement would state that Bluth would not be able to grant authorization of the Space Ace works to anyone other than Digital Leisure.)

The only person I know Don Bluth & co to threaten to sue it that crazy idiot who was making and selling Secret of Nymh pRon. I guess you could say that was one "fan project" that was halted.   :puke

Oh, interesting thing, Don is still currently working in the video game world. He just recently did the animation for an updated Tapper game. (unfortunatly for iOS only...  :'( )
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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #24 on: January 30, 2012, 01:22:31 pm »
The only person I know Don Bluth & co to threaten to sue it that crazy idiot who was making and selling Secret of Nymh pRon.

Anyone else immediatly google this?  Totally guilty.

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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2012, 09:11:58 pm »
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Myst was pretty beefy back in the day and tablets (iphone excluded) don't have the greatest of specs.
It wasn't "beefy" at all. It's a glorified slideshow of still images and video sequences. CD-ROMs were just SLOW at transferring data back then.

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MINIMUM PC REQUIREMENTS
Windows 3.1/95
386 33MHz Processor
4MB RAM (8MB for Windows 95)
4MB Hard Disk Space
2X CD-ROM Drive

This is in 1993.
33mhz! Meanwhile, people are impressed that an iphone can play it. (An old iphone 3 has 18x the CPU processing power that that old 386 had!)
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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2012, 10:29:23 am »
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Myst was pretty beefy back in the day and tablets (iphone excluded) don't have the greatest of specs.
It wasn't "beefy" at all. It's a glorified slideshow of still images and video sequences. CD-ROMs were just SLOW at transferring data back then.

Code: [Select]
MINIMUM PC REQUIREMENTS
Windows 3.1/95
386 33MHz Processor
4MB RAM (8MB for Windows 95)
4MB Hard Disk Space
2X CD-ROM Drive

This is in 1993.
33mhz! Meanwhile, people are impressed that an iphone can play it. (An old iphone 3 has 18x the CPU processing power that that old 386 had!)


I was curious about how you'd compare the speed between them.

Wikipedia lists the MIPS for the ARM6 (in the regular iPhone) as being 740 MIPS
And the Intel 386DX at 11.4 MIPS at 33 MHz.


So maybe more like 65x the processing power.

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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2012, 10:07:45 am »
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Myst was pretty beefy back in the day and tablets (iphone excluded) don't have the greatest of specs.
It wasn't "beefy" at all. It's a glorified slideshow of still images and video sequences. CD-ROMs were just SLOW at transferring data back then.

Code: [Select]
MINIMUM PC REQUIREMENTS
Windows 3.1/95
386 33MHz Processor
4MB RAM (8MB for Windows 95)
4MB Hard Disk Space
2X CD-ROM Drive

This is in 1993.
33mhz! Meanwhile, people are impressed that an iphone can play it. (An old iphone 3 has 18x the CPU processing power that that old 386 had!)


I was curious about how you'd compare the speed between them.

Wikipedia lists the MIPS for the ARM6 (in the regular iPhone) as being 740 MIPS
And the Intel 386DX at 11.4 MIPS at 33 MHz.


So maybe more like 65x the processing power.

comparing a reduced instruction set CPU to a standard CPU is like comparing apples to cases apples. they are both apples, but one you have to carry a few at a time and the other comes in a box that you can carry maybe a few cases (depending on your strength) at a time. you ultimately transport all the apples but in way less time with the cases.

often why in those computer mags like maximum PC they have real world tests when they do comparisons and speed tests, and not just the crap cpu manufacturers spray out to make their cpu seem faster than the other guy.


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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2012, 10:21:34 am »
comparing a reduced instruction set CPU to a standard CPU is like comparing apples to cases apples. they are both apples, but one you have to carry a few at a time and the other comes in a box that you can carry maybe a few cases (depending on your strength) at a time. you ultimately transport all the apples but in way less time with the cases.

often why in those computer mags like maximum PC they have real world tests when they do comparisons and speed tests, and not just the crap cpu manufacturers spray out to make their cpu seem faster than the other guy.

No doubt. Remember all the crap Apple used to say about how their Motorola chips beat Intel?

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Re: Myst is on Iphone!
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2012, 12:18:59 pm »
Didn't Myst have 5 versions?
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