xBox 1 - Control Pannel and second Game pad- 1 port

[sharpfork]

What are games like Dragons Lair and Space Ace doing for you guys?  I start them up and it appears to just play a video of someone going through the game.  If I press anything, I kick instantly back to the menu.

 

I think this is going to be resolved in COPs 3 r2.

[ark_ader]

What are games like Dragons Lair and Space Ace doing for you guys?  I start them up and it appears to just play a video of someone going through the game.  If I press anything, I kick instantly back to the menu.

 

I think this is going to be resolved in COPs 3 r2.

Uh No it's not.  Unless (whoever has it) BP can get the source for DaphneX it just won't happen.  Personally it has been a chore getting hold of Kubik, I think Matt Ownby and Kubik is one of the same, but I cannot be sure, it sounds feasible. It cannot be any of the other DLP devs. Both live in SLC, source for Daphne is available, source for DaphneX isn't due to the XDK.  DaphneX needs specific game images in order for it to work properly, DVD rips do not work and that alone says a lot.

You could place DaphneX into the CoinOPS3 menu, but I just keep it in a separate folder on another partition (I have the complete set) as it takes up some space by itself.  But you have both already on the MegaCD version of Coinops, its just the crappy version. 

I was disappointed to hear about the trackball issues and it makes me glad I didn't spring for a tankstick.

What trackball issues?

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=116696.0

I still do not understand it works great for me, and I just use a USB trackball or mouse.  You have to understand that the spinner/trackball is geared to the triggers on the joypad, but you can change the configuration of the keymap and it saves  it it is all trial and error.  If you are looking for a quick fix, sorry.  Besides I only use a small amount of games that uses the spinner/trackball.  I have yet to get my topguns out of storage and hook them up to the xbox to check out the lightgun support. 

I have been playing every game and checking if there are any bugs or issues I should be done in 10 years or so...

[sharpfork]

Uh No it's not.  Unless (whoever has it) BP can get the source for DaphneX it just won't happen.

OK, we'll see.

I still do not understand it works great for me, and I just use a USB trackball or mouse.  You have to understand that the spinner/trackball is geared to the triggers on the joypad, but you can change the configuration of the keymap and it saves  it it is all trial and error.  If you are looking for a quick fix, sorry.  Besides I only use a small amount of games that uses the spinner/trackball.

I think we have the same trackball and it "works" for me but not in a remotely authentic way.
Are you able to get it to work at a varied speed like the trackball shows in XBMC or on a PC MAME?  If so, please share your settings you achieve from trial and error for a game like centipede and I'll try to recreate them.  If you figured it out, cool; pelase share.

There are some folks working with BP to measuring the movement in the mouse differently.  Trig seems to have some good ideas and BP is willing to try making changes to the mame core. They have examples and source code from XBMC and PC MAME so I'm guessing they should be able to figure it out.  If your configuration solves it, that would obviously be easier.

[ark_ader]

I have found my game frag (PS/2 mouse and keyboard controller for FPS games) and I crafted (yet another to lose to a mate) a Xbox 2 USB hub.  I shall find time this weekend to just single out centipede and try and get it to work as you wanted then I will post my findings. 

I got it to work with tempest and Star Trek, but you will probably notice Star Trek missed the cut in CoinOPS3  why I do not know.  Asteroids and star castle (without sound???) maps great with the X arcade.

BP fixed the problems with Sinistar.  I had a blast playing that game with the lights down and the volume up.    Beware I live!  Top game. 

I love my xbox. 

[sharpfork]

Please post back your results on trackball use.  The joy frag thing is going to do a direct convert to the analog stick so it will never be right.  You have an xarcade trackball too, correct?

Sinistar is awesome but i suck at it.  I need to find a placd with srtat guides so i can get better at oldies lkke sinistar and galaga.  I really want to learn SFII as well.

[ark_ader]

Please post back your results on trackball use.  The joy frag thing is going to do a direct convert to the analog stick so it will never be right.  You have an xarcade trackball too, correct?

No I have a garden variety USB trackball, similar to the Imperial in the X Arcade.

[ark_ader]

As promised I inserted my Trackball, which reminds me to mod that Golden Tee TV trackball I have laying around, and had a few goes on Centipede.

I had to adjust my settings and this is what I set them to in order to get a decent game and break a new high score of 16000+.  I'm real crap at Centipede but I did my best.
I was going to take a picture but I'm lazy.

This is the config window Pressing Back and White.

P1 Track X Key/Joy Speed = 20
P1 Track X Reverse = ON
P1 Track X Sensitivity = 60%
P1 Track Y Key/Joy Speed 20
P1 Track Y Reverse = OFF
P1 Track Y Sensitivity = 20%

I have not yet plugged in the Lightguns yet.  I feel a HOTD craving coming on, so I will plop the generic HOTD for the Xbox and get my fix.  I hope I can get Operation Wolf working with the TopGun.

I think I will try that now.... 

BattleField 3 can wait a few more minutes....

[sharpfork]

I was disappointed to hear about the trackball issues and it makes me glad I didn't spring for a tankstick.

What trackball issues?

BP (the coin OPs Dev) was working on it last night and it seems like there is some sort of mapping issue in the xbox mame port.  He said he thinks he can fix it but it will require more than a simple config change. 
Also, R2 is out.  There is support for DL, DL II, and Space ace and a few other games.  I haven't tried to setup the files in the correct location yet.

[sharpfork]

Looks like he released the update only as a full download?  With more updates promised to come?  Ugh.

It isn't a big DL, it is an update.  It does require COP3 full to run though.

[ark_ader]

Downloaded it and now updating the xbox.  I wonder if the Laserdisc port is just the DVD remote version...but we will see. 

[ark_ader]

Not that anyone cares, but have learned that an X-Arcade works great with a 10 foot serial cable.  That along with the length on the adapter allows me to sit all the way across my living room with the controller in my lap in my leather easy chair.  Snatcher looks pretty damn great on my 47' TV.   

Where are you guys finding the CoinOps update?  Nogo on Usenet.

I got some lag when I went higher than 6 feet of cable.

Updates?  Well I do have a source, it is fast (free) but I cannot link to it, sadly. 

[slycrel]

When I put together my orginal xbox cab ~5 years ago I tracked down kubic on AIM and bugged him once a week or so for ~ 6 months for the source code to DaphneX.  He never coughed it up, lots of promises and excuses though.  Finally decided that even though I'm a programmer by trade it's not THAT worth it.  Maybe someone else will get their hands on the source, to my knowledge it's never been released publicly even though it's a pretty gross daphne license violation.  I'd still love to have dragon's lair, but for now I've settled with the DVD playable version.

[ark_ader]

When I put together my orginal xbox cab ~5 years ago I tracked down kubic on AIM and bugged him once a week or so for ~ 6 months for the source code to DaphneX.  He never coughed it up, lots of promises and excuses though.  Finally decided that even though I'm a programmer by trade it's not THAT worth it.  Maybe someone else will get their hands on the source, to my knowledge it's never been released publicly even though it's a pretty gross daphne license violation.  I'd still love to have dragon's lair, but for now I've settled with the DVD playable version.

Simple.  Just ask Matt For it. It is his emulator.  If you wanted to you could get a 99.6 snapshot or the latest and greatest and build your own.  You will need the XDK though, I found it just by looking around.

I'm sure if you ask him nice enough he might give you the source code, but I would seriously doubt he would own up to creating it, considering the ramifications.

Good luck. 

[Blux]

Would it be possible to hook up my iPac, and two lightguns up to player 1 and 2 at the same time.  That way when I want to play HOTD I don't have to reach in the cab and switch cables?

[ark_ader]

I don't know about hooking them up at the same time, but you can mod the controller cables into something that will be compatible with a switch box like a DB9.  Xbox Controller cables are just USB with the Yellow wire for the light guns.

I'm sure you can fashion a suitable switch to enable your light guns and Ipac together or separately.

I did the same thing with the X Arcade, Frag and Xbox Light guns before I got the LCD TopGuns.  If you are going to mod the controller wires, I would suggest getting a USB hub and adding some extra ports to your Xbox for future adventures. 

[Funnel]

Downloaded the standalone version. Since I'm removing my PC setup and going to toss my xbox to my cab, is there a way to make the xbox boot directly to coinops? My xbox is softmodded with UnleashX.

[ark_ader]

If memory serves...you have to rename your default Evox.xbe to xx.xbe then you have to rename the coinops xbe and call it evox.xbe which is the default xbe.  But you have to point it to the coinops directory.

Your mod looks for the EvoX xbe which is stored in EPROM.

If I was you I would boot AID 5.x and then make your default dashboard XBMC.  I like XBMC, but I also like Avalaunch too.....decisions.   

If you are scratching your head at what I am saying, then leave it alone. 

You can goof your xbox up real easy, make you angry and start throwing things.

[Funnel]

Thank you ark. My xbox is softmodded with UnleashX, would that make it any different? And no, I understood the process you described completely. I also know my way around FTPing and changing files on my xbox. (30 gb hard drive)

[ark_ader]

What xbmc skin are you using, ark?

I was using Ellipsis but even with all the patches it constantly crashed.

Because I use the X Arcade I need something that is controller friendly so I opted for the Xbox 360 blade theme.  I have it decorated with the Bleach Theme.

Works like a dream.

Thank you ark. My xbox is softmodded with UnleashX, would that make it any different? And no, I understood the process you described completely. I also know my way around FTPing and changing files on my xbox. (30 gb hard drive)

Well it tells you in the root of C.  I would make a backup on your C and E folders first via FTP.  Also get the code for your hard drive so you can lock your dive if it ends in tears.

Then you might want to look at getting a bigger drive, use xbox partitioner and copy the C & E back and lock the drive again and try it out.  If it fails well you have that 30 gb...

[Funnel]

Again, thanks a lot Ark. For now, I'm using the 30 gb drive because I have most of the xmv videos and roms and they all fit in there.

[ark_ader]

Again, thanks a lot Ark. For now, I'm using the 30 gb drive because I have most of the xmv videos and roms and they all fit in there.

I just popped a 400gb in mine last month as CoinOPS hit 50gb add DaphneX, all the Amiga & ST plus my Xbox collection I just have enough room for my movie and MP3 collection.

I figure if I just store the games in the Xbox I can have shelf space and return the discs and their cases to the loft.

I have to now figure out how to put a 2TB in the next Soft modded Xbox...Sata2IDE will have to do, but I'm not sure of the lag at start up.

[Funnel]

The CoinOps dev has added an autoboot feature. Going to try that today! http://coinopsproject.freeforums.org/dashboard-in-menu-t266.html