Walking Dead: Season 2

[Bootay]

I would say "go for it". It really doesn't spoil it that much because the comic is different. The same basic things happen but in different ways and at different times. Plus the characters are totally different than they are in the show, and there are a lot more of them. The show is kind of the PG Rated version of the story. heh

I personally like the comic much better, but the show is still good. The show is borrowing storylines from the comic and then doing them on a smaller scale. It hasn't spoiled the show for me, but instead makes me wonder how they are going to do certain things if at all.

[Howard_Casto]

Apparently that was last night's episode?  Shouldn't that be in spoilers?  I watched the Patriots game instead.

That's your problem, sorry. 

I was going to put my stuff in spoilers but I figured at this point people would have the common sense not to read this thread unless they were following the tv show. 

As for comic book spoilers  I'll remind you guys that the book is currently on episode 90 and has been in production since 2003.  If you haven't read the book by now you probably never are and it is so much further along (not to mention different and BETTER) than the tv show that there is no reason to hold back reading.

Don't get me wrong I'm not trying to be the guy who yells out the ending as you walk into a movie, but I think using spoilers in this type of thread is getting a bit tedious.  Why don't we just put a warning at the beginning of the thread?

And no Chad, what you aren't getting is that when everyone else are discussing one point and then you respond by saying "maybe I have another point" it isn't a difference of opinion, it's a breakdown of communication as you are talking about one thing and we are discussing another.    I'm not trying to be mean at all, it's just when people are discussing their opinion of the handling of a Ford Taurus and you shout  "I like boats, they go fast.... cars suck!"  you aren't really helping along the discussion very much. 

[ChadTower]

Howard, I know you like to control discussions and keep the viewpoints narrow, but that's not how group conversation works.  It moves around to various viewpoints on the common subject.  Sometimes it takes a leap sideways at a new idea. 

Presenting a different point of view on an event is not like comparing a car to a boat.  The event did not change.  Only the opinion on the event differs. 

[lordnacho]

I would say "go for it". It really doesn't spoil it that much because the comic is different. The same basic things happen but in different ways and at different times. Plus the characters are totally different than they are in the show, and there are a lot more of them. The show is kind of the PG Rated version of the story. heh

I personally like the comic much better, but the show is still good. The show is borrowing storylines from the comic and then doing them on a smaller scale. It hasn't spoiled the show for me, but instead makes me wonder how they are going to do certain things if at all.

+1

[ChadTower]

I figure the show won't last a lot longer than season 3 if there even is one.  I'll have plenty of time to read the comics then.

[Mikezilla]

I figure the show won't last a lot longer than season 3 if there even is one.  I'll have plenty of time to read the comics then.

I dont know man, that show is printing money for AMC, Im not sure they if they have greenlit season 3 yet, but the current season is getting some really good ratings.

[ChadTower]

The zombie fad won't last a ton longer.  Once they aren't mainstream top tier anymore the show won't be printing money.  This fad has been over a year now.  That's already longer than most fads nowadays.  Maybe if they change the format to a zombie survival show where you can vote someone out of the group every week. 

Text #ZMBYSRV with your vote after each episode (standard message rates apply).

[Mikezilla]

I suppose youre right, but then again, maybe they wont wait for another year to produce the next season, I thought that was pretty dumb on their part. Then again look at the stupid vampire fad, thats been around and is only getting worse thanks to stupid Twilight, Vampire Diaries, True Blood etc.

My GF and I are doing a obstacle course thing like that next year. Its called runforyourlives.com, its kind of like the mud run(if youre familiar with that) you wear flags, and people are dressed up as zombies and they try to attack/chase you. Whoever gets to the finish line with the most flags win wonderous prizes. Its a pretty brutal obstacle course.

[crashwg]

the book is currently on episode 90 and has been in production since 2003.  If you haven't read the book by now you probably never are

I'm not sure that's a fair thing to say.  I didn't even know it was a comic/graphic novel until just before they started season 2 up.  I've never owned a comic before unless you count Trigun which was pretty boring after seeing the show since it was pretty much word for word.  If it's as good as people say it is (and not word for word which it appears not to be) then I'll most likely pick it up when money is flowing a little more freely.

[ChadTower]

My GF and I are doing a obstacle course thing like that next year. Its called runforyourlives.com, its kind of like the mud run(if youre familiar with that) you wear flags, and people are dressed up as zombies and they try to attack/chase you. Whoever gets to the finish line with the most flags win wonderous prizes. Its a pretty brutal obstacle course.

Heh, I'm probably going to do that too when it comes to MA.  The prizes thing doesn't match anything that I saw on their website, though.  I did the Warrior Dash, Spartan Race, and Metro Dash this year.  The zombie race looks like it'll probably be easier than those.

[Mikezilla]

My GF and I are doing a obstacle course thing like that next year. Its called runforyourlives.com, its kind of like the mud run(if youre familiar with that) you wear flags, and people are dressed up as zombies and they try to attack/chase you. Whoever gets to the finish line with the most flags win wonderous prizes. Its a pretty brutal obstacle course.

Heh, I'm probably going to do that too when it comes to MA.  The prizes thing doesn't match anything that I saw on their website, though.  I did the Warrior Dash, Spartan Race, and Metro Dash this year.  The zombie race looks like it'll probably be easier than those.

Spartan Race and Warrior Dash?! Never heard of those, Ill have to check em out. I was reading that they have different age and level of difficulty courses too, I hope its hard, I dont want it to be easy. The mud run in camp pendleton in CA is kinda easy, thats the only other thing like that out here.

[crashwg]

My GF and I are doing a obstacle course thing like that next year. Its called runforyourlives.com, its kind of like the mud run(if youre familiar with that) you wear flags, and people are dressed up as zombies and they try to attack/chase you. Whoever gets to the finish line with the most flags win wonderous prizes. Its a pretty brutal obstacle course.

Dang, are registration prices usually so high for things like this?  It's going to be $77 from tomorrow to March!  I'd love to do that but don't think I could convince the wife.

[Mikezilla]

My GF and I are doing a obstacle course thing like that next year. Its called runforyourlives.com, its kind of like the mud run(if youre familiar with that) you wear flags, and people are dressed up as zombies and they try to attack/chase you. Whoever gets to the finish line with the most flags win wonderous prizes. Its a pretty brutal obstacle course.

Dang, are registration prices usually so high for things like this?  It's going to be $77 from tomorrow to March!  I'd love to do that but don't think I could convince the wife.

To be honest, this is my first one of this nature. A buddy of mine is in the military, so we got to do the Mud Run for free. I thought it was pretty steep too, but it sounds like a lot of fun, you get to train for it, and I believe you get a t shirt. Im a sucker for cool t shirts. 

[ChadTower]

Dang, are registration prices usually so high for things like this?  It's going to be $77 from tomorrow to March!  I'd love to do that but don't think I could convince the wife.

Yes, sadly.  And it's getting worse.  If the show is printing money these races are fabricating diamonds.  The Warrior Dash I ran was like $50-75 to register and more than 7000 people ran it over two days.  Similar races are popping up all over the place each with some slight variation on the 5k obstacle course theme.  Fortunately for me I have a comparison point because so many seem to be held at the same spot in MA on the same course.  A little rerouting within the hills, extra obstacles, and the course can go from easy to wtf pretty fast.  The Warrior Dash and the Spartan Race were in the same location but the Spartan took me twice as long despite being in far better condition at the time.  Run For Your Lives is in the same place next year.

If you check the prices for the zombie run they are even charging spectators $22.  Add in $10 to park and one of these races ends up $100 or more.

[Mikezilla]

Whoa. I didnt notice the spectator price, and the parking fee. I swear, they are freaking vultures man, charging for EVERYTHING. Its unbelievable these days what people get away with when an event like this goes on. Chargning a spectator 22 bucks?! Thats blasphemy.

[ChadTower]

Be careful, too, very careful about believing what is listed on the website.  I've seen some things clearly detailed on the websites that were nothing like that when you show up.  The Spartan Kids' race is a good example.  The website listed it as a half mile, on part of the adult course, and the price was $18.  My ten year old actually trained for it.  It turned out to be about 200 yards, in the parking lot, with some tires and crappy obstacles.  And they wanted $20.  I had to pay since my son had his heart set on it but it took him 40 seconds.  Even more annoying was they let any kid run so those who had paid ahead of time felt even more ripped off.

By far the best source of info on these races is Youtube.  There is a subculture of folks who wear cameras during the race and post the vids to youtube or even have websites discussing the races.  Those videos show you exactly what any given race is about with the caveat that they vary by location but the general quality should be the same for the same race.  When they had the first Zombie Race there were full length race videos up on Youtube two days later to show us all what the race is really like.

[crashwg]

If you check the prices for the zombie run they are even charging spectators $22.  Add in $10 to park and one of these races ends up $100 or more.

If you camp out (which you or I probably wouldn't do) there's no outside food allowed either!  Buy their stuff or sneak it in.

[Howard_Casto]

I don't think the zombie thing is a fad and even if it were I don't see the walking dead as being related to that fad.  We had a steady diet of zombie movies and comics up until the mid 90's and then it went away for a few years, but now it's back.  Video Games are what seem to be fueling their popularity atm so unless capcom goes out of business I think we are good for a while.  That being said, the walking dead is a tv show... the first and only zombie tv show.  That alone will keep it afloat long enough... just look at supernatural.  At the time it was the only "x-files like" tv show on the air at the time and it's on season 6 or something.  That show isn't exactly shakesphere either. 

And then again AMC has only recently went into the tv series business and they aren't exactly known for long series runs.  They don't seem to be the type of channel to milk a show past it's prime just to make money.  I'm guessing two more seasons.

[CCM]

I figure the show won't last a lot longer than season 3 if there even is one.  I'll have plenty of time to read the comics then.

http://screenrant.com/the-walking-dead-season-3-amc-sandy-137627/

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/amc-renews-walking-dead-season-3-249366

[CCM]

Getting back on topic, how awesome is Darrel?  When I saw the "scenes for next week" last week  I thought to myself "Man some Rambo ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- is going down next week"  and boy was I right!  Pulls the arrow out THE WRONG WAY and still manages to shoot the zombie.  That's a man right there. 

How do you figure he pulled it out THE WRONG WAY??   He pulled the fletchings thru his side, you think he should have pulled the arrowhead backwards thru his side?   The way he did it was the only way to pull it out without ripping himself apart AND still be able to use the arrow.  If the arrow is almost thru or all the way thru, he did it the right way.

[crashwg]

I'm with Howard on the pulling the arrow out the wrong way assessment.  It's clearly a target point which is the same diameter of the shaft.  If it were a broad head it would be a different story.

[ChadTower]

Ever try to pull your own shirt off with injured ribs?  Damn near impossible.  Now multiply that by a brazilian.  It would not have been possible to pull it out himself from behind.  I don't think it had anything to do with the arrow's orientation.  He was too injured to reach all the way behind himself and pull from that direction.

[CCM]

I'm with Howard on the pulling the arrow out the wrong way assessment.  It's clearly a target point which is the same diameter of the shaft.  If it were a broad head it would be a different story.

I didn't notice it was a target point, I stand corrected, but I believe Chad is right, no way he was reaching behind to pull it out.

[lordnacho]

That scene was excellent.  Really gave a good idea of his adrenaline rush.
Although what a dumb zombie, eating his shoe?  That's not zombie food

[Mikezilla]

Ever try to pull your own shirt off with injured ribs?  Damn near impossible.  Now multiply that by a brazilian.  It would not have been possible to pull it out himself from behind.  I don't think it had anything to do with the arrow's orientation.  He was too injured to reach all the way behind himself and pull from that direction.

The brazilian made me laugh Chad.  Yeah that was a brutal scene but it was pretty good. I was hoping for a zombified animal like a bear or something when the bushes were shaking. That would have been cool for Nicotero to tackle a zombie-bear.

Back to Hershel hoarding the zombies. Do you think they are family members?

[ChadTower]

I'm still waiting on the movie that shows someone attracting zombies to turn them into zombiediesel.

[Vigo]

My guess the zombies are probably townsfolk, family, friends, etc. Hershel probably is against killing zombies since they are still people from his perspective. It makes sense if you think about how he has been so anti gun on his farm.

[Nephasth]

It makes sense if you think about how he has been so anti gun on his farm.

And how disgusted/devastated his daughter was when they smashed the head in on the well zombie.

[ChadTower]

My guess the zombies are probably townsfolk, family, friends, etc. Hershel probably is against killing zombies since they are still people from his perspective. It makes sense if you think about how he has been so anti gun on his farm.

Or maybe he has enough common sense to see how many people are being accidentally shot.

Or maybe it's his way of demilitarizing the guests.

[Bootay]

HA!

I think Vigo has read the comic. Cheater! heh

[Mikezilla]

HA!

I think Vigo has read the comic. Cheater! heh

Ok so when you quote the spoilers, you can still read em. Didnt know that lol. I kinda thought they were going to be Zombie enforcer kind of agents. Like "get off my property or I release the zombies" then he could herd em up again. 

I still think that chick is hot though man. Damn.

[Bootay]

Oh...sorry about that Mikezilla. I specifically put them in spoiler tags so that you wouldn't read them. LOL

It doesn't make or break the story though.

[Vigo]

HA!

I think Vigo has read the comic. Cheater! heh

I actually haven't read the comic yet. I just can't think of more than a couple reasons why a farmer/vet would keep a barn of zombies.

[Mikezilla]

Oh...sorry about that Mikezilla. I specifically put them in spoiler tags so that you wouldn't read them. LOL

It doesn't make or break the story though.

I just read Vigo's spoiler tags, I cant help it Bootay haha. So, thats the reason?! That kind of sucks, I was hoping for something more dynamic.

[Bootay]

Vigo: You are dead on the money with everything you typed. At least in the comic...not sure if the show will go another direction.

Mikezilla: Sorry...nope. It wasn't a huge deal in the comic. It was just his logic at first but he soon realizes that he is wrong so it's not like a big part of any story really. At least in the comic. It was just another excuse to have more zombie chaos and show how different others think about the situation. Not sure why he would think that if there was a cure found these things would be alright. I mean some of them have their guts hanging out and ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---. LOL

Anyway...I will stop. I revealed enough. The show is different in a lot of ways so anything goes still. They could still decide to go another way with it.

[NiN^_^NiN]

The reason hershel has zombies in the barn is he believes there is a cure remember when he showed rick the ridge and he was saying how humans have overcome plagues he seems to believe once there is a cure they can be saved.

[Bootay]

And here I was being so careful with the spoiler tags. LOL

[Mikezilla]

Haha bootay, I know. Forget the spoiler tags from now on. Thats the only logical thing I could think of, was that if there ever is a cure, he could save them.

The first season was so long ago, do we know how the zombie's even started? Same as usual, some sort of biological weapon got out and caused the outbreak? Or do they never say?

[Bootay]

They never say. No one knows. This goes for both the show and the comic.

[Mikezilla]

They never say. No one knows. This goes for both the show and the comic.

Ah. Thank you for that.