Walking Dead: Season 2

[ChadTower]

Ah yes, the Zombie Apocalypse "down there" payment for safety.

I was surprised that didn't come into play when the blonde wanted to run off with him.

[Necro]

The show is pretty much hitting the larger points in the comic but it's details are different. I'm hooked on both the comic and show. I hope they both have a good run.

I think the decapitation, dismemberment, and repeated shooting of children is going to end up scrapped for the show.  As is the old guy/young woman sex stuff...  

I want to see how the hell they do Michonne, since she's just straight up nuts.

[lordnacho]

I don't see her making the show.  Much like how the X-Men movies dialed down the dorkness of comics

I mean, seriously, she was walking around with 2 zombie bodyguards and a ninja sword

[Mikezilla]

Seems reasonable enough that she'd bang a guy she didn't particularly like to ensure he keeps her and her son alive.

But its not just some dude, its her husbands best friend. And she REALLY seemed to enjoy it. Its not like he just let him get his jollies, she was freaking into it. Just kind of a bummer considering he seems like a good guy, and they have a kid together. I kind of forgot the dialogue between Rick and Shane when they were eating in the car in the first episode.

Dorkness of comics?! Blasphemer!

[Louis Tully]

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[ChadTower]

But its not just some dude, its her husbands best friend. And she REALLY seemed to enjoy it. Its not like he just let him get his jollies, she was freaking into it. Just kind of a bummer considering he seems like a good guy, and they have a kid together. I kind of forgot the dialogue between Rick and Shane when they were eating in the car in the first episode.

Or she was just doing a good job of convincing him.

[Dartful Dodger]

The world is covered with Zombies and she thought her husband was dead.

The flashbacks Rick was having while he was in a coma showed that Shawn was visiting him often. It's not that far fetched that she'd fall for him and him for her.

I didn't like how the triangle played out in the comics. It doesn't look like they are following the same story. Shawn is acually looking like a good person in the show.

Although if what seemed to have happened at the end of the episode really happened, then the comic book Shawn might return. The writters of the show could say that was the only reason Shawn gave up so easily.

[Mikezilla]

Still though. A month?

[Howard_Casto]

Seems reasonable enough that she'd bang a guy she didn't particularly like to ensure he keeps her and her son alive.

Nah man, they totally changed her into a whore on the tv show.  In the comics, they slept together ONCE after an attack when she was particularly scared and vulnerable.  On teh tv show apparently they shacked up almost immediately and we still together right up until Rick got back. 

I seriously doubt they need "the sterotypical stupid guy who shoots things too much and makes the wrong decision" as help either. 

[Howard_Casto]

To those worried about excessive gore, remember the stupid loopholes of standards and practices. 

Generally speaking monsters are not considered human by S&P ....same goes for aliens and robots.  So you can do whatever you want with them.  This is why all the kids shows where the bad guys get shot left and right have either robots, monsters or aliens as the bad guys. 

[Necro]

HC - not worried about zombie gore...remember, in the comic a kid gets dismembered, three people get decapitated, quite a few others get ripped apart, a pair of people get blown apart by a shotgun blast, etc.  NONE of that ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- is going to make it to TV...at least not in a way as impactful as the comic I don't think.  Maybe...but....there's a difference in seeing it and doing the gunshot sound, face shot, then bloody body where you see nothing on the ground in my mind. 

BTW - first person change the topic to say spoilers...don't know what is and isn't a damn spoiler.

[ChadTower]

Judging by this thread, the comic and season 2 seem to be spoilers, season 1 is assumed to be past spoiling.

[Ginsu Victim]

Breaking Bad reference tonight. In the stash of drugs, there is some blue meth. Heisenberg FTW!

EDIT:
Here's a pic:

[garnerb350]

Saw the reference and laughed ---my bottom--- off....I would love to see Walt as a zombie...

[Bootay]

Still though. A month?

Like I had posted before, he was in a coma for an undetermined amount of time. They never said it was a month. They never actually revealed the time frame Rick was in a coma at all. Does the comic ever say how long?

[Ginsu Victim]

Added a pic above.

[Vigo]

Rick couldn't have been long in a coma, at least after the breakout. I'm I remember right, when Shane went in try to rescue Rick, that was the point in which the power went out in the hospital and it was evacuated. So up until the point in which Shane came to get Rick, Lori believed he was alive. Rick couldn't have stayed in a coma without fluids for more than a week or so.

I don't know how long Rick stayed with that one guy and his son, but It didn't seem like more than 3 days.

So that leaves Lori a rebound time of 1-2 weeks maximum from the point she thought he was dead. She's a whore.

[lordnacho]

His plant was withered, how long does that take?

[Dartful Dodger]

BTW - first person change the topic to say spoilers...don't know what is and isn't a damn spoiler.

I understand your spoiler concerns, I won't have time to watch the show until the weekend, so even though I started this thread I won't open this thread after the next episode is aired until I actually had time to watch it.

Do I just edit the subject of the first post. Won't that reset the "new" post back to the first post?

His plant was withered, how long does that take?

Right even though he wasn't dead they could have been comforting each other while he was in the coma. After he was presumed dead and everyone who wasn't dead assumed they would be, the rules with relationships changed.

[Howard_Casto]

No it really doesn't. 

Maybe your values are different form mine, but when a spouse dies, it's a MINIMUM of a year before you even start dating again.  And no a zombie apocalypse doesn't change a rules, just like murder is still murder. 

[Mikezilla]

No it really doesn't. 

Maybe your values are different form mine, but when a spouse dies, it's a MINIMUM of a year before you even start dating again.  And no a zombie apocalypse doesn't change a rules, just like murder is still murder. 

See, this was more along the lines of what I was thinking. There was virtually no mourning period. And the way they showed it, it wasnt just a "Im all alone with a child to raise, and we are going to be scraping by everyday just to survive hold me" kind of thing. It was like "hey when are we gonna ditch the rest of these clowns (including my kid) to go ---fudgesicle--- in the woods". She is a whore.

Sundays episode was lame in my opinion. Nothing happened. Of course my DVR kept screwing up so that might have added to it cause I might have missed thing.

[ChadTower]

That's actually really weird.  My Tivo screwed up that episode too and I had to torrent it. 

[Mikezilla]

I didnt have time, I was late. Hm. That is weird. Who is your cable provider?

[Louis Tully]

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[ChadTower]

I didnt have time, I was late. Hm. That is weird. Who is your cable provider?

DirecTV.  I'm pretty sure it was the Tivo.  The hard drive is dying.

[Mikezilla]

I didnt have time, I was late. Hm. That is weird. Who is your cable provider?

DirecTV.  I'm pretty sure it was the Tivo.  The hard drive is dying.

Sorry, I noticed that earlier when you were talking about the HD and stuff. I think that must be the case too. It kept getting scrambled, pixelated, and would just pause for about 10 seconds at a time. Does that indicate hard drive death?

[ChadTower]

Yes, in a DVR if that starts to happen without a signal problem it means the hard drive is on the way out.  I have two older Tivos and have replaced the drive in each of them twice.  DVRs can get to the tootsie roll center of a hard drive quickly.

[Mikezilla]

Yes, in a DVR if that starts to happen without a signal problem it means the hard drive is on the way out.  I have two older Tivos and have replaced the drive in each of them twice.  DVRs can get to the tootsie roll center of a hard drive quickly.

Yeah no kidding. This is the fourth one I have had in the last year from Cox. The weird thing though is that they have all died in different ways. The first one I guess doesnt count cause it was replaced due to it not being HD. The second one just completely stopped working. One night it was fine, the next it just wouldnt turn on. The third one popped and started smoking from the back so of course I yanked it out of the wall and disconnected it from the TV, then the last one did this. 

[Savannan]

Watched the show last night...

The shocker was when shane killed otis.

The way I took it..It was the survial of the fitest.  Otis was draggin him down. But I personally wouldnt of shot him, I would of grabbed his bag and just went ahead of him..if otis got ate up, then its his own fault, shanes conscience would be clean then..but now he has to face his demons...

metaphorically, when a person cuts his hair off, he's starting a new way of life.  does this mean shane is bad now?

[Well Fed Games]

I have Verizon FIOS and the picture quality of AMC HD is horrible.   All other HD channels are fine.  How is the picture on DirecTV?  Anyone else have issues with FIOS?

I have AT&T u-verse, and bad picture here, too. Also, a lot of subtle digital stuttering in the audio.

[Vigo]

Dangit! Spoiler blinds, please.

[Mikezilla]

I have Verizon FIOS and the picture quality of AMC HD is horrible.   All other HD channels are fine.  How is the picture on DirecTV?  Anyone else have issues with FIOS?

I have AT&T u-verse, and bad picture here, too. Also, a lot of subtle digital stuttering in the audio.

Oh man, I just got U-Verse in my area, and I was going to switch from Cox cause I was having trouble with the DVR, it always craps out, the picture quality is garbage, etc.

Well what you said Savannan makes sense, sort of. By killing Otis (Sorry Vigo, didnt think I needed to use spoiler tags cause you already read that  ) it guaranteed Shane was going to survive. Thats what he gets for being a typical American. He probably wasnt a vegetarian thats for damn sure. 

I havent read the comic, but if you ask me, shane already was bad considering he was porking Ricks wife before he even knew he was dead...

[SNAAKE]

The shocker was when shane killed otis.

really?

that was...PREDICTABO! from the hair cutting intro I knew he killed or had otis killed.

[Louis Tully]

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[Mikezilla]

Thats what he gets for being a typical American. He probably wasnt a vegetarian thats for damn sure. 

I havent read the comic, but if you ask me, shane already was bad considering he was porking Ricks wife before he even knew he was dead...

I've known plenty of fat vegetarians.  They seem to think being vegetarian means scarfing down piles of french fries and truck loads of Doritos while just saying no to meat. Ya know, for health reasons. 


Shane has been dead for a looooong time in the comic.

Haha that was a reference to another thread regarding PETA stuff.

Damn Louis! This is the show thread, not the damn comic! I just read over the spoiler, and it did in fact spoil things! 

[Louis Tully]

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[Mikezilla]

Sorry dude.

Ill live. Unlike someone else we know. 

[Howard_Casto]

The shocker was when shane killed otis.

really?

that was...PREDICTABO! from the hair cutting intro I knew he killed or had otis killed.

Agreed.  That was the most cliche intro I've seen in quite some time. 

Actually this whole episode was poorly written. 

Let me make a little list: 

(Going back from the lead-in from the previous ep.)  Ok so there are two guys, and throwing flares into the parking lot seemed to work REALLY well.  So wouldn't it make sense to either have one guy stay outside and continue to throw flares while the other one makes two trips or bring some flares with them so that they can throw em out the window prior to opening the door??

With a few notable exceptions the zombies in this episode are really slow, slow enough that you can outrun them.  Was it really such a good idea to be blasting them left and right as you were clearly, and easily outrunning them.  Geat use of ammo guys!  Way to draw more zombies to your location!

Shane was the one slowing the pair down, NOT OTIS.  Shane actually falls twice due to his bumb leg and Otis helps him up.    Otis is a big guy, and he's carrying the heaviest pack.  So to those of you who thought Shame shot him because he was "slowing them down" you are dead wrong.  I sincerely hope we learn later on that he simply shot him out of revenge, because shooting him actually made things worse and severely lessened his chances of getting back alive.  Also that bumb leg sure seemed to get better.  I mean he was barely standing on it while carrying his lighter, smaller pack and yet he manages to get back with BOTH packs just fine. 


On top of that, I don't know if it was poor filming or what, but as they were walking down that road towards the end, they didn't seem to be in any real danger.  Sure there was a bunch of zombies behind them, but they were like 75-100 feet behind them.  Zombies aren't exactly sprinting champions.  As long as they manage to keep moving they weren't in any danger at all. 

Hopefully this means the end of Shane pretty soon.  He's a horrible character (not in a love to hate way either) and he needs to be removed from the show.  Rick's wife as well.  Maybe they could be eaten soon?

I'm lovin' Darrel though...  I'm related to people like him. 

I'm not real fond of how they are trying to "fast forward" Rick's emotional break-down to match up with the comics either.  It's a tad to early to shoot Carl don't cha think?

I just hope they don't keep drawing on plot lines and stories directly from the comics.  The farm house bit was pretty good in the comics, but some of the other long story arcs are pretty dull.  Heck where they currently are in the comics is pretty boring if you ask me. 

[Louis Tully]

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[AtomSmasher]

Shane was the one slowing the pair down, NOT OTIS.  Shane actually falls twice due to his bumb leg and Otis helps him up.    Otis is a big guy, and he's carrying the heaviest pack.  So to those of you who thought Shame shot him because he was "slowing them down" you are dead wrong.  I sincerely hope we learn later on that he simply shot him out of revenge, because shooting him actually made things worse and severely lessened his chances of getting back alive.  Also that bumb leg sure seemed to get better.  I mean he was barely standing on it while carrying his lighter, smaller pack and yet he manages to get back with BOTH packs just fine. 

Slowing the pair down and revenge never even entered my mind as to why he shot Otis.  To me, the clear reason is because he realized they were both too tired and slow neither of them would make it to the truck before getting overrun by the zombies.  Shooting Otis caused all of the zombies chasing him to stop and eat Otis instead of continuing to chase him, which would give him plenty of time to make a slow escape to the truck.  It's like the old saying that you don't have to be faster than a bear to escape an attacking bear, you just have to be faster then the guy next to you.