Author Topic: Who hacked PSN? (Read 57282 times)

DaveMMR · « **Reply #200 on:** May 17, 2011, 05:03:21 pm »

I didn't understand that if you get free games for the PS3 AND the PSP (assuming you have each) or you have to choose one or the other. Because I was thinking about Little Big Planet PSP but I rather get PS3 games if I have to choose...

Vigo · « **Reply #201 on:** May 18, 2011, 09:43:08 am »

Quote from: DaveMMR on May 17, 2011, 05:03:21 pm

I didn't understand that if you get free games for the PS3 AND the PSP (assuming you have each) or you have to choose one or the other. Because I was thinking about Little Big Planet PSP but I rather get PS3 games if I have to choose...

Not to mention that players who already own most or all of those games on the list do not get much to choose from. Nothing like taking a dump on your most loyal of fans by making only a few games available.

Dartful Dodger · « **Reply #202 on:** May 18, 2011, 12:15:43 pm »

Sony PSN 'gets hacked again'

When they opened up PSN the people that hacked into it used the information they took in the first place and spent last night changing passwords.

That would explain why I was able to enjoy playing last night.

I knew it was too good to be true.

I actually won races in Modnation and I killed more than I was killed in Battlefield.

DNA Dan · « **Reply #203 on:** May 18, 2011, 01:44:16 pm »

JEEEZZZZUSSSS!! You mean the info used to authenticate for new passwords is actually the information that was previously stolen? Are these people retards?

I'm waiting for the Sony retinal scan peripheral coming out next month. Only 59.99 if you preorder today...

lilshawn · « **Reply #204 on:** May 18, 2011, 03:51:26 pm »

Quote from: DNA Dan on May 18, 2011, 01:44:16 pm

JEEEZZZZUSSSS!! You mean the info used to authenticate for new passwords is actually the information that was previously stolen? Are these people retards?

uhm ya, ya they are.

Quote from: DNA Dan on May 18, 2011, 01:44:16 pm

I'm waiting for the Sony retinal scan peripheral coming out next month. Only 59.99 if you preorder today...

i'm thinking more of a colonoscopy scan. it would seem to fit the situation a little better.

Malenko · « **Reply #205 on:** May 18, 2011, 03:56:25 pm »

Wheres the PS3 fanbois at saying that this is a good thing?

Vigo · « **Reply #206 on:** May 18, 2011, 04:08:01 pm »

Quote from: pinballjim on May 18, 2011, 12:17:10 pm

I swear, man, it's like these companies learned nothing from the 1990s.

Maybe that's the problem. I hear they hired Fisher Stevens as the head of their PSN System Security division. He skateboarded around the office, so they figured he was evil enough to stop those crazy old hackers.

HaRuMaN · « **Reply #207 on:** May 18, 2011, 04:16:59 pm »

The Plague: "Our recent unknown intruder penetrated using the superuser account, giving him access to our whole system."

DNA Dan · « **Reply #208 on:** May 18, 2011, 04:18:37 pm »

Inside job?

lilshawn · « **Reply #209 on:** May 18, 2011, 04:44:49 pm »

Quote from: DNA Dan on May 18, 2011, 04:18:37 pm

Inside job?

retarded job in the first place.

you'd think they would start from scratch, but them PlayStation users would be all like..

"eeeeegnh wheres my trophies?!" or yachtswomen or whatever you are supposed to "win" with these things

Dartful Dodger · « **Reply #210 on:** May 18, 2011, 05:07:55 pm »

Quote from: Malenko on May 18, 2011, 03:56:25 pm

Wheres the PS3 fanbois at saying that this is a good thing?

Unlike the Xbox fanbois, our PS3 isn't just for games. Not playing online games will give us more time to watch Bluray movies.

Hopefully this second attack will bring us even more free stuff from Sony.

Donkbaca · « **Reply #211 on:** May 18, 2011, 05:13:37 pm »

yeah, totally I think its worth to play 300 bucks for a blu ray player when I can get one for under a hundred. Blu ray is the next betamax, streaming is the way of the future

lilshawn · « **Reply #212 on:** May 18, 2011, 05:19:54 pm »

Quote from: Donkbaca on May 18, 2011, 05:13:37 pm

yeah, totally I think its worth to play 300 bucks for a blu ray player when I can get one for under a hundred. Blu ray is the next betamax, streaming is the way of the future

i have a DVD player on the main TV, and to be quite honest, since i started using XBMC i don't need it. i used the DVD player maybe 3 times since i bought it... all of our DVD's are in the minivan for the kids to watch anyway.

hypernova · « **Reply #213 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:12:54 pm »

Sony says "Nuh uh! No it didn't!

Dartful Dodger · « **Reply #214 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:42:46 pm »

Sony saying their the network was not hacked is like Clinton saying he did not have sexual relations with that woman.

If someone finds and uses sensitive information on your website, no matter how poorly it was hidden, you've been hacked.

lilshawn · « **Reply #215 on:** May 18, 2011, 06:44:05 pm »

Quote from: hypernova on May 18, 2011, 06:12:54 pm

Sony says "Nuh uh! No it didn't!

hacked....exploited.... security hole.... whatevs. same bullplop different pile.

SavannahLion · « **Reply #216 on:** May 19, 2011, 01:45:38 am »

Quote from: pinballjim on May 18, 2011, 12:17:10 pm

I swear, man, it's like these companies learned nothing from the 1990s.

I'd piss on you but I can't. I honestly cannot find anything even remotely wrong with this statement. These kind of mistakes are what First Years would make.

So for the people who had their PSN account passwords changed without their knowledge, what's Sony going to do about them?

Quote from: lilshawn on May 18, 2011, 04:44:49 pm

"eeeeegnh wheres my trophies?!" or yachtswomen or whatever you are supposed to "win" with these things

Strangely enough, I still haven't figured out what good the Trophies are. Is it like a

measurement thing? Is there some sort of PSN

place where those morons go, stick their trophies in and see what pulls from the other side?

Malenko · « **Reply #217 on:** May 19, 2011, 08:03:19 am »

Quote from: Donkbaca on May 18, 2011, 05:13:37 pm

yeah, totally I think its worth to play 300 bucks for a blu ray player when I can get one for under a hundred. Blu ray is the next betamax, streaming is the way of the future

He was being sarcastic (I hope)

Trophies are Sony's "answer" to Gamer Score. Same thing, only slightly lamer.

Dartful Dodger · « **Reply #218 on:** May 19, 2011, 11:21:22 am »

Quote from: SavannahLion on May 19, 2011, 01:45:38 am

So for the people who had their PSN account passwords changed without their knowledge, what's Sony going to do about them?

If I'm reading it correctly when you turn on your PS3/PSP it will ask you to reset your password. This way you're not locked out if someone else set your password earlier using another computer.

So now if you have a stolen PS3, or if your brother doesn't let you use his PS3, you'll be able to sign in and reset their password to what you want.

Dartful Dodger · « **Reply #219 on:** May 19, 2011, 11:37:08 am »

Quote from: Malenko on May 19, 2011, 08:03:19 am

Quote from: Donkbaca on May 18, 2011, 05:13:37 pm
yeah, totally I think its worth to play 300 bucks for a blu ray player when I can get one for under a hundred. Blu ray is the next betamax, streaming is the way of the future

He was being sarcastic (I hope)

Sarcastic, with a hint of truth.

As bad as the troubles the PS3 is having right now, it's still better than an xBox.

In another day (if not already) we'll be back to enjoying free online play, on a more powerful system.

Donkbaca · « **Reply #220 on:** May 19, 2011, 11:44:56 am »

Well If you believe that, fine. Who cares about power? The non-exclusive games run about the same. If you look at lensoftruth.com, half the comparisons are won by xbox, half are ps3, most are soo close that its a tie. The xbox has a WAY better online experience. Yeah you have to pay for it, but its 40 bucks a year. Don't see why 40 bucks a year would seem like a deal breaker to someone willing to pay 300 bucks for a blue ray player. Kinect is way better than the move, oh yeah, and as far as I know, Microsoft never let hackers steal 120 million credit card numbers....

Dartful Dodger · « **Reply #221 on:** May 19, 2011, 12:46:14 pm »

Quote from: Donkbaca on May 19, 2011, 11:44:56 am

The xbox has a WAY better online experience.

What does that even mean? I can (when it's working) play online games. What more do I need? (besides 40 extra more bucks a year)

I'm playing online games to pretend I'm racing a car or fighting in a battle, not to pretend I have friends.

Quote from: Donkbaca on May 19, 2011, 11:44:56 am

Kinect is way better than the move

Again with the "way better", what are you a 12 year old girl?

Agreed, Kinect is a better gimmick, too bad it's only good for dance games.

Dance little girl, dance.

Quote from: Donkbaca on May 19, 2011, 11:44:56 am

oh yeah, and as far as I know, Microsoft never let hackers steal 120 million credit card numbers....

Oh yeah, and as far as you know, Sony never let hackers steal 120 million credit card numbers...

Vigo · « **Reply #222 on:** May 19, 2011, 12:56:47 pm »

It looks like Darty is starting up a console war in this thread. Fight! Fight!

HaRuMaN · « **Reply #223 on:** May 19, 2011, 01:00:22 pm »

Kinect Star Wars comes out in December...

Donkbaca · « **Reply #224 on:** May 19, 2011, 01:05:04 pm »

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What does that even mean? I can (when it's working) play online games. What more do I need? (besides 40 extra more bucks a year)

I'm playing online games to pretend I'm racing a car or fighting in a battle, not to pretend I have friends.

Let me clear it up. ~~way~~ better. Its easier to find friends and connect with people. The layout is better, its less laggy and drops less. Easier to navigate. Oh yeah, and it doesn't go offline for weeks because someone stole 120 million credit card numbers from its subscribers....

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Again with the "way better", what are you a 12 year old girl?

Agreed, Kinect is a better gimmick, too bad it's only good for dance games.

Dance little girl, dance

I very well may be a 12 year old girl. If so you have just blown your chance at the Jr. High dance, since I am guessing you are a 12 year old boy by your thoughtful, persuasive arguments. Hopefully you find a date to the dance, and if I see you there I will dance way better than you because I have been practicing on my Kinect.

The move is a blatant wii ripoff. The kinect on the other hand is something different. It is also the fastest consumer selling device ever. A lot of people, apparently, like to dance. Plus if you ever visit make or hackerspace or instrucatbles, you can see people are repurposing it for all sorts of neat stuff. It might be a better "gimmick" its still better.

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Oh yeah, and as far as you know, Sony never let hackers steal 120 million credit card numbers...

Ok as far as I know, Sony had 120 million card numbers stolen and their initial reaction was "oh ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---! what do we do... um Hanzo! Quick, put up a down for maintenance screen while we figure this out!" As far as I know, that has never happened with the x-box.

SavannahLion · « **Reply #225 on:** May 19, 2011, 03:18:31 pm »

True, ratcheting up Microsoft Live store points for free is infinitely better for us than having 77+ million records stolen.

I'm not being sarcastic.... no really, I'm not.

But then, is there any truth to the talks of users intentionally triggering bans for other users on Live? I know there's a thread about it around somewhere.

hypernova · « **Reply #226 on:** May 19, 2011, 05:47:56 pm »

I can't find anything on my initial google search on that. Every banned article I find is either about how to avoid it (don't mod and other obvious tips) or people who've been rightly banned.

I remember the Live points hack. Didn't they get identified anyway, then banned? Maybe not all of them, but the idiots who went a little overboard adding tens of thousands at once, or continuously adding them.

shateredsoul · « **Reply #227 on:** May 20, 2011, 01:05:16 am »

It's all about Nintendo DS yo!

Ds two card, NDS games, Gameboy Advance, gameboy color, game boy,

Malenko · « **Reply #228 on:** May 20, 2011, 10:29:20 am »

HaRuMaN · « **Reply #229 on:** May 20, 2011, 10:30:32 am »

Well, I can get back into PSN, now, but I haven't been able to get my free games yet. PSN Store is currently undergoing maintenance...

Mikezilla · « **Reply #230 on:** May 20, 2011, 11:23:50 am »

Quote from: HarumaN on May 20, 2011, 10:30:32 am

Well, I can get back into PSN, now, but I haven't been able to get my free games yet. PSN Store is currently undergoing maintenance...

Yeah they dont expect to bring the PSN back up until May 24th.

shateredsoul · « **Reply #231 on:** May 22, 2011, 03:04:26 am »

it happened again, this time they took users psn points, I'd recommend using pre-paid cards to make purchases

http://www.destructoid.com/hackers-continue-to-attack-sony-start-stealing-money-201690.phtml

SavannahLion · « **Reply #232 on:** May 22, 2011, 04:02:24 am »

Quote from: shateredsoul on May 22, 2011, 03:04:26 am

it happened again, this time they took users psn points, I'd recommend using pre-paid cards to make purchases

http://www.destructoid.com/hackers-continue-to-attack-sony-start-stealing-money-201690.phtml

This isn't directly related to PSN. At least it doesn't seem to. If you notice, the article you link to is actually from a Gamasutra article. That is the fateful flaw in 90% of all blogs and why I think most bloggers need to die a horrible death, their inability to link to the original source (not in that case, strangely enough) and their inability to stick with the facts (apparently the case here). But I digress, It appears So-Net is an ISP provider that offers a portal allowing subscribers to earn and redeem online points. Not necessarily PS3/PSN related.

You should still use prepaid cards anyways. No argument from me.

shateredsoul · « **Reply #233 on:** May 22, 2011, 04:08:26 am »

ahh thanks for the clarification, It's still a repeat Sony attack, just not through psn. Funny how you trust people to interpret info correctly and report it honestly. It's like that phone game.. by the time the news gets to us it may be heavily distorted. I'm just surprised that the people behind this have been so how do gutsy. I mean, it seems like they're not afraid of any consequences. I'd be shitting my pants if I had any government trying to find me.

SavannahLion · « **Reply #234 on:** May 22, 2011, 04:37:31 am »

It may not be the same people. Think about it. Those people who made off with 77+million records literally have billions worth of credit card and people's identities in their hands. Why hack another Sony network for a mere 100,000 yen? And only 128 people? And to make any use out of it, they have to transfer the points into something tangible and hence, easily traceable. That's a laughably absurd crime for someone(s) operating on that scale. The cat burgler uses Amazon's Cloud to pull off the biggest virtual crime in history* then use their own laptop to steal 100k Yen?

I'll bet it's just some bored script kiddie that discovered an exploit and took advantage of it. Probably more likely a crime of opportunity than any real planning.

*I don't really know if it is the biggest virtual crime. Don't really care.

DNA Dan · « **Reply #235 on:** May 22, 2011, 10:55:55 am »

Seems like other groups are kicking the pig while it's in the mud. I bet the executives at Toyota are celebrating. Haven't heard much amount that mess in a while.

SavannahLion · « **Reply #236 on:** May 22, 2011, 01:25:22 pm »

Quote from: DNA Dan on May 22, 2011, 10:55:55 am

I bet the executives at Toyota are celebrating.

Apples and Oranges dude. I doubt Grandma Gennie with the heavy foot goes home after Bingo night to play FPS games on her PS3.

blackzc · « **Reply #237 on:** May 25, 2011, 01:21:31 am »

All this drama is pushing me even further away from any console online gaming. The people are crap, the restraints are to much and something something to finish the sentence with 3 points.

I dont play consoles online very often so this is more an affirmation.

Dartful Dodger · « **Reply #238 on:** May 25, 2011, 11:22:08 am »

I just want to relax and spend a half an hour playing, but there are people online that live online so I it's not enjoyable.

Right now Mod Nation is the only game I can enjoy, even when I lose at least I feel like I had a chance. The only problem with Mod Nation is I'm waiting for the game/track to load almost as long as I'm playing.

hypernova · « **Reply #239 on:** May 25, 2011, 06:21:18 pm »

I just read that some games, including the new Dirt 3 REQUIRE the use of the PSN Store to play online. Which of course is still under maintenance.

Ridiculous.


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