Who hacked PSN?

[DNA Dan]

I thought I read an article where Sony stated they knew who was responsible for the attack. I am sure they know a lot more than they are letting on.

[Dartful Dodger]

When do we get our free stuff?

[Mikezilla]

When do we get our free stuff?

I want to know what the free stuff even entails. Exactly. Access to the network to play on line is free, so whats the big damn deal anyway? 

[DNA Dan]

Perhaps free encrypted passwords?

[lilshawn]

FREE CREDIT CARD NUMBERS FOR ALL!!!!!

[hypernova]

Now there's a story about another group having access to Sony's servers (different servers than the one's already breached).  They are claiming they may release as much information as they can get their hands on in an effort to smear Sony's name even more so than it is.  This info allegedly includes stuff like names, addresses, etc.  And CC numbers.

New information breach???

Check the middle paragraph for the new info.

All I can do at this point is just chuckle and laugh.  All this crap coming their way.  After so much crap from them, they angered the wrong people - some of the better hackers in the world.

Will it keep up?

[DaveMMR]

All I can do at this point is just chuckle and laugh.  All this crap coming their way.  After so much crap from them, they angered the wrong people - some of the better hackers in the world.

Well honestly I find it kind of sad.  Angered the wrong people?  Please.  If you don't like Sony's policies then don't buy their stuff.  Why get people like me - who only want to play online, maybe download a game, etc. - involved in a hacker's childish tantrum.

I understand some of the more tech-savvy are upset that they've been limited to how they can modify their system or that George Hotz faced legal action by finding an exploit in the PS3.  Realize though that this will never change - piracy is a real problem in the industry.   If they leave the doors open for people to take advantage, then they'd be in serious trouble.  And with PCs so cheap, why even bother with hacking a damn console anymore?  You can do what you want with a PC with none of the crazy hoops to jump through.  Oh yeah right - you can't play pirated PS3 games on a PC....  

I diverted from my original point - and I didn't mean for it to turn into a lecture on piracy (my C64 collection are the leftover shards of my glass house).  But basically: committing a Federal crime, putting a company (and people's jobs) at risk, and inconveniencing 77 million innocent customers with at best, not being able to enjoy their product and at worst having to cancel their credit cards all because Sony won't make it easy for you to circumvent their anti-piracy measures is ridiculously stupid and irresponsible for all involved.  It makes hard-core gamers look like a bunch of brats who couldn't have their way in the eyes of everyone else.  The inflated sense of entitlement here is ridiculous.

Finally, if Sony's or Nintendo's or Microsoft's draconian locking methods really bother you to the point where you find this kind of attack justified, you should probably switch to PC gaming.

[SavannahLion]

I'd be hard pressed to equate these black hats with what Geohut and Anonymous have done. If the hacker(s) responsible truly wanted to hit Sony under the guise of freedom, then why steal information and CC numbers then attempt to sell the list? A true white hat would have stolen the entire source code tree to the ps3 and the PSN servers. Maybe even the docs to the PS4 for kicks. The personal info would have been left alone or encrypted, deleted, or whatever.

I can respect the entry, but the theft business is a bit much.

[DNA Dan]

Well they finally got me guys. Call your credit card company and cancel your card ASAP. I haven't made any strange or new business location charges and my number has been stolen. I attribute this directly to this PSN hack. You'll get a kick out of this one...... someone tried to charge a new XBOX live subscription on my credit card!!!!! Xbox live fanboys can suck it!

So I don't know about others, but I don't think this was coincidence. I have had the card for years and only use it at the same round of stores every month. I can confirm that your data is out there and being charged on.

[SNAAKE]

[shateredsoul]

heard the rumored upcoming attack did happen, they released some info but not credit card info.. damn. Whose to say they won't go after xbox 360 next...

[hypernova]

All I can do at this point is just chuckle and laugh.  All this crap coming their way.  After so much crap from them, they angered the wrong people - some of the better hackers in the world.

Well honestly I find it kind of sad.  Angered the wrong people?  Please.  If you don't like Sony's policies then don't buy their stuff.  Why get people like me - who only want to play online, maybe download a game, etc. - involved in a hacker's childish tantrum.

I understand some of the more tech-savvy are upset that they've been limited to how they can modify their system or that George Hotz faced legal action by finding an exploit in the PS3.  Realize though that this will never change - piracy is a real problem in the industry.   If they leave the doors open for people to take advantage, then they'd be in serious trouble.  And with PCs so cheap, why even bother with hacking a damn console anymore?  You can do what you want with a PC with none of the crazy hoops to jump through.  Oh yeah right - you can't play pirated PS3 games on a PC....  

I diverted from my original point - and I didn't mean for it to turn into a lecture on piracy (my C64 collection are the leftover shards of my glass house).  But basically: committing a Federal crime, putting a company (and people's jobs) at risk, and inconveniencing 77 million innocent customers with at best, not being able to enjoy their product and at worst having to cancel their credit cards all because Sony won't make it easy for you to circumvent their anti-piracy measures is ridiculously stupid and irresponsible for all involved.  It makes hard-core gamers look like a bunch of brats who couldn't have their way in the eyes of everyone else.  The inflated sense of entitlement here is ridiculous.

Finally, if Sony's or Nintendo's or Microsoft's draconian locking methods really bother you to the point where you find this kind of attack justified, you should probably switch to PC gaming.

You read too much out of my post.  Didn't say I condoned the actions.  I am one of those people who will do their best to avoid the Sony name.  I'm not the "wrong people".  I'm not exactly saddened by these actions either (save the CC thievery-that is sad) with Sony's track record.  I was hoping CC info wasn't actually going to be stolen and used, but it looks like that may be the case, though DNA Dan's could still be a coincidence.  I'm doubtful that it is a coincidence, however.

[lloydclinton]

I think Sony had to blame *someone* quickly to save face and turn the PR around... if you look at this, it doesn't fit the Anonymous profile... had the CEO of Sony videotaped himself throwing puppies into a river, then maybe they may have done *something*, but I don't believe they would steal the credit card information... the have the talent to do so, but this isn't their MO...

[lilshawn]

I think we should go back to the old instruction manual keycode that you had to search out and then type in to play

"What word is on page 67 paragraph 3 word 15?"

[DNA Dan]

I wish someone else who had to cancel their card posts in the thread so we'd know it wasn't coincidence.

I bank with Wells Fargo and they actually called me to confirm some transactions. The very first one from the automated voice was "A service through Microsoft Coporation, Xbox live." Or something to that effect. When you punch in you didn't do the transaction it goes immediately to a banker. I told them I was a PSN account holder which recently was hacked, he tells me he cannot comment on that, but the card needed to be cancelled immediately and I have to wait 7-10 days for another one. We then went through my last 5 transactions. It was a really a fast process. I am just thankful they caught it with their automated fraud system. I mean how would they know that I didn't do the transaction? A fake security code? or does XBL not require a code? Anyway, they would have to know that this service was asked for in a different town, or not from where I normally use the card. Being that's an online service, I just can't figure out what tripped the fraud alert.

[SavannahLion]

Wells Fargo actually tracks your banking habits. Whenever you do a charge that's "out of your normal tendencies" it triggers a flag and prompts that call. I rarely charged more than $XX dollars on my card and I tend to always purchase from the same businesses. When I purchased my laptop about four or five years ago, it prompted a call from WF. Same thing when my truck broke down and I needed to repair it while I was in the Bay Area. And again when I used the card to reserve a hotel room in a different state.

I'm not entirely sure how the algorithm works though. Just before my first child was born, I ratcheted up about $10k on that card with charges across the state and I didn't receive a single call from the bank.

I canceled my cards as soon as I got wind of the PSN ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow---. I couldn't recall if I actually did put in my card info or not but I wasn't taking any chances. With every bank, as soon as I mentioned the letters, "PSN," I got the old cards canceled and new ones issued. No questions asked. Interestingly, only Wells fargo tried to convince me to keep my old card until unexplained charges appeared and then cancel my card. They also tried to sell me some "fraud" insurance and a subscription to that credit history thing. That's one of the reasons why I quit doing most of my business with Wells Fargo.

I never had the same type of experience with WF as PBJ had, but I can echo that WF isn't exactly the most um... how should we say it? Customer friendly bank to deal with.

[DaveMMR]

You read too much out of my post.  Didn't say I condoned the actions.  I am one of those people who will do their best to avoid the Sony name.  I'm not the "wrong people".  I'm not exactly saddened by these actions either (save the CC thievery-that is sad) with Sony's track record.  I was hoping CC info wasn't actually going to be stolen and used, but it looks like that may be the case, though DNA Dan's could still be a coincidence.  I'm doubtful that it is a coincidence, however.

I did not mean to imply it my rant was a direct response to you and what you said; I just used your post as a springboard for what I've been seeing (elsewhere) as anti-Sony, pro-hacker sentiment.   I have no problem with the Sony hatred (I don't particularly like Sony either, they just had what I was looking for with regards to gaming).  But any attack (even a simple Denial-of-Service) on a company is the wrong, irresponsible and illegal way of doing things.   It always hurts the victims more (attack costs company money, company passes those loses onto the customer in some way).   

Besides Sony today, Microsoft, Nintendo or Apple tomorrow...

[Malenko]

 If you don't like Sony's policies then don't buy their stuff.  

while I agree with most of your post, this line is a bit off. The issue is Sony changing policy AFTER you buy that pissed them off. I have a PS3, I jail broke it.......I still dont play it. Its a glorified BluRay player, and my GF bought it for me as a birthday gift thinking it would replace my broken PS2, but the salesman lied to her because he sold her a model that didnt play PS2 games. c'est la vie


I dont like Sony's policies and I wont be buying their stuff anymore.

[hypernova]

I'm not really bothered by a DoS attack.  It's only a temporary thing, and many users won't even know it happened.  I know I wasn't even aware that Paypal was targeted awhile back during the wikileaks thing.  But I do feel for the PSN users who still can't play some CoD or the new MK.  What's happened does suck for all of them.  This outage is certainly far and beyond anything anyone could have expected from a cyber-intrusion.

I read yesterday that Sony's claiming all of their servers WERE up to date.  Numerous reports prior to the hack were that they utilized out-of-date Apache.  So...once again, who's telling the truth?

Besides Sony today, Microsoft, Nintendo or Apple tomorrow...

Wouldn't bother me on Nintendo being targeted.  At least for now, because who depends on Nintendo's online services?   MS would be a much bigger hit.  It would be enormous, actually.  Although I'd miss not being able to play Black Ops online, I have plenty of other games I'd like to play again as soon as I finish FFXII IZJS.  Millions of others, however, who use LIVE would be heartbroken/irate.  Plus there's much more CC info that could be exposed.

I hate Apple as much as Sony.  Except they're much easier to boycott.

[lloydclinton]

I'm not really bothered by a DoS attack.  It's only a temporary thing, and many users won't even know it happened.  I know I wasn't even aware that Paypal was targeted awhile back during the wikileaks thing.  But I do feel for the PSN users who still can't play some CoD or the new MK.  What's happened does suck for all of them.  This outage is certainly far and beyond anything anyone could have expected from a cyber-intrusion.

Most of my 9-5 deals with security and more specifically PCI compliance.  When you have a breach that causes credit card theft it gets rather nasty.  The last people you probably want to call is Visa because they will be sending a forensics team to figure out what happened (this is what my auditor told me).  If the violations get crazy enough, Visa can say that you can not process credit cards anymore.  That would most certainly deal a death blow to more than a few companies these days.  With the 74 million and the newly reported 24 million records from the Sony Online Entertainment, this could make them the 2nd largest data breach of all time...right now they have the incidents split so the PSN comes in at the 4th largest and the SOE comes in at 9:  http://datalossdb.org/

So Sony in reality is responsible for the combined 2nd largest data breach/loss of all time....

[lloydclinton]

Finally, if Sony's or Nintendo's or Microsoft's draconian locking methods really bother you to the point where you find this kind of attack justified, you should probably switch to PC gaming.

I am an avid PC gamer and there are plenty of issues with EA/Valve/Steam, etc... but we deal with it because we like to play...

[DNA Dan]

while I agree with most of your post, this line is a bit off. The issue is Sony changing policy AFTER you buy that pissed them off. I have a PS3, I jail broke it.......I still dont play it. Its a glorified BluRay player, and my GF bought it for me as a birthday gift thinking it would replace my broken PS2, but the salesman lied to her because he sold her a model that didnt play PS2 games. c'est la vi

I dont like Sony's policies and I wont be buying their stuff anymore.

Yeah I think that whole backward compatibility lie led to the PS3's lackluster sales. They put so much hype into these consoles by the time it hits the market the expectation is way beyond the reality.

Thanks for the heads up with Wells. This is only the second time in 15 years that I had to change my number due to theft and the first time they played nice. Hopefully this time is no different.

[DaveMMR]

The issue is Sony changing policy AFTER you buy that pissed them off.

That pretty much happens with any company (credit cards, cable providers, utilities, etc.)  And they even put it in their language that they can modify terms and agreements at any time.  But with Sony, you can "stop" buying anything further if you so choose (and sell the PS3 used, that affects them as well).

I'm not really bothered by a DoS attack.

Definitely less noticable but still affects the consumer.  Those attacks cost companies money, money they have to make up... through its customers.

Wouldn't bother me on Nintendo being targeted.

You do give them credit card information if you download games from them (though I'm not sure if they actually store it since I have to keep re-entering it when I purchase points).    

Finally, if Sony's or Nintendo's or Microsoft's draconian locking methods really bother you to the point where you find this kind of attack justified, you should probably switch to PC gaming.

I am an avid PC gamer and there are plenty of issues with EA/Valve/Steam, etc... but we deal with it because we like to play...

Yes but you can enjoy a whole host of software outside of those services/companies without any restrictions.  With Sony/Nintendo/MS Xbox - any game you want to play has to go through their "gates", so to speak.

[lloydclinton]

while I agree with most of your post, this line is a bit off. The issue is Sony changing policy AFTER you buy that pissed them off. I have a PS3, I jail broke it.......I still dont play it. Its a glorified BluRay player, and my GF bought it for me as a birthday gift thinking it would replace my broken PS2, but the salesman lied to her because he sold her a model that didnt play PS2 games. c'est la vi

I dont like Sony's policies and I wont be buying their stuff anymore.

Yeah I think that whole backward compatibility lie led to the PS3's lackluster sales. They put so much hype into these consoles by the time it hits the market the expectation is way beyond the reality.

Thanks for the heads up with Wells. This is only the second time in 15 years that I had to change my number due to theft and the first time they played nice. Hopefully this time is no different.

Also, if you are concerned that someone may have stolen enough information to get credit in your name and actually steal your identity there are several things you can do yourself:

1.  Go to https://www.alerts.equifax.com/AutoFraud_Online/jsp/fraudAlert.jsp and request a free 90 day fraud alert.  Once you fill it out at Equifax they are supposed to alert the other two reporting agencies and they will put a fraud alert on your account.  You are supposed to then get a phone call when someone tries to extend you credit to make sure it is you.

2.  If you are the victim of fraud and you have a police report, you can put a freeze on your credit.  To be extended credit you will have to have the freeze lifted.

[Malenko]

The issue is Sony changing policy AFTER you buy that pissed them off.

That pretty much happens with any company (credit cards, cable providers, utilities, etc.)  And they even put it in their language that they can modify terms and agreements at any time.  But with Sony, you can "stop" buying anything further if you so choose (and sell the PS3 used, that affects them as well).

Lets not wonder too far off base here, lets keep it strictly about video game consoles. They can modify terms of service all they want, but that isnt what Sony did. Sony removed a selling feature, and the feature they removed pissed off the hackiest of nerds (or the nerdiest of hackers, your choice) and you had to choose between paying the newest games for the console or keeping the feature. If I knew how to do what they were doing, I'd probably be doing it too.

Im not going to get too deep into it, mostly because I dont care enough about it to do so. Sony can only push so much before people start pushing back. I'll still have the piece of mind of not supporting the company even if it doesnt impact them.

[DaveMMR]

The issue is Sony changing policy AFTER you buy that pissed them off.

That pretty much happens with any company (credit cards, cable providers, utilities, etc.)  And they even put it in their language that they can modify terms and agreements at any time.  But with Sony, you can "stop" buying anything further if you so choose (and sell the PS3 used, that affects them as well).

Lets not wonder too far off base here, lets keep it strictly about video game consoles. They can modify terms of service all they want, but that isnt what Sony did. Sony removed a selling feature, and the feature they removed pissed off the hackiest of nerds (or the nerdiest of hackers, your choice) and you had to choose between paying the newest games for the console or keeping the feature. If I knew how to do what they were doing, I'd probably be doing it too.

Im not going to get too deep into it, mostly because I dont care enough about it to do so. Sony can only push so much before people start pushing back. I'll still have the piece of mind of not supporting the company even if it doesnt impact them.

Be that as it may, it's still not a valid reason to hack PSN and expose 77 million customers to potential fraud on the credit cards.

And as for that whole Other OS business - I just never got it.  Did people really buy a PS3 so they can install Linux on it?  Does it serve any purpose besides running Homebrew software (that's usually either "meh" or "copyright infringement")?   Why not install Linux on a cheap PC instead of a $400-$600 PS3 and do what you will with it?   Seriously, I know little-to-nothing about it even after searching (though this one article says it might be pressure from IBM as to why they had to remove it).  

[hypernova]

Wouldn't bother me on Nintendo being targeted.

You do give them credit card information if you download games from them (though I'm not sure if they actually store it since I have to keep re-entering it when I purchase points).    

Heh...I haven't downloaded any WiiWare since when my first Wii was stolen from my home.  And to buy those,  I just got the points cards from the store.  I've figured I've got too many games to play as it is, and any old school games are emulated just fine on the PC, and don't warrant me buying them yet again.

I have, however, given my CC info through my 360.  So an intrusion into LIVE would be particularly worrisome to me.

[SNAAKE]

http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/article/385669/no_sony_psn_service_anytime_soon_says_latest_update/

[lilshawn]

"conduct further testing of the incredibly complex system"

so... they updated the firmware on their dlink router, bricked it, and nobody can figure out what to do now?

[Malenko]

Be that as it may, it's still not a valid reason to hack PSN and expose 77 million customers to potential fraud on the credit cards.

And as for that whole Other OS business - I just never got it.  Did people really buy a PS3 so they can install Linux on it?  Does it serve any purpose besides running Homebrew software (that's usually either "meh" or "copyright infringement")?   Why not install Linux on a cheap PC instead of a $400-$600 PS3 and do what you will with it?   Seriously, I know little-to-nothing about it even after searching (though this one article says it might be pressure from IBM as to why they had to remove it).  

Just to truncate and make sure we're on ther same path....... Anonymous took down the PSN servers for a day or two to show Sony how fucktarded they are. Thats what I was talking about. I supposed the criminals (some of which may or may not have been part of Anonymous) saw a vulnerability and cashed in.

As for OtherOS, I guess the US government (AirForce, C3,etc) must have been running "meh" or "copyright infringement" when they bought over 2,200 PS3 to run linux. As for the IBM opinion,I dont see many facts supporting it, just conjecture. Perhaps you really didnt know that you can use a PS3 as a server and that a server usually costs a lot more then a PS3 (the power supply in my crappy Dell PowerEdge 1800 back up server is $300)

[DaveMMR]

Just to truncate and make sure we're on ther same path....... Anonymous took down the PSN servers for a day or two to show Sony how fucktarded they are. Thats what I was talking about. I supposed the criminals (some of which may or may not have been part of Anonymous) saw a vulnerability and cashed in.

I agree that happened, but why would the average Joe gamer care about the message anonymous is trying to convey when they're forced to have a crippled PS3 (no online play) for a war they probably knew nothing much less cared about.   Even if it were only a day or two. 

I know why they supposedly did it - I just don't think it's at all responsible.

As for OtherOS, I guess the US government (AirForce, C3,etc) must have been running "meh" or "copyright infringement" when they bought over 2,200 PS3 to run linux. As for the IBM opinion,I dont see many facts supporting it, just conjecture. Perhaps you really didnt know that you can use a PS3 as a server and that a server usually costs a lot more then a PS3 (the power supply in my crappy Dell PowerEdge 1800 back up server is $300)

So you're saying the people who are upset over the loss of OtherOS are primarily affiliated with the Airforce or C3?  Somehow I doubt that. And it's great that you use it as a server, but I can't see a company using it for such a purpose (actually, it would downright silly - you can't just fix or replace parts in a PS3 easily and it'd be outdated far too quickly). Home use, yes - I could see that. But that just touches upon what I'm talking about: how many people (out of all PS3 owners) are running servers at home? They couldn't possibly care less - they just want to play games.  And like me, they're soldiers in a war with Sony they wanted to no part of.

Actually, I'm not so much disagreeing with you than I am lashing out at the mentality of the hackers and its supporters (I don't see you as being in the latter category - you're only explaining why things went down as they did).  And I'm not sticking up for Sony so much either. Sony should not have promised the moon with the PS3. Games, music and movies: that's the most any console should concern itself with. But Sony needed to pad out the feature list to justify its price tag... and I guess you take that one feature from the one wrong person who uses his skills for bad...

[Dartful Dodger]

I wish someone else who had to cancel their card posts in the thread so we'd know it wasn't coincidence.

People who steal credit card numbers wish that more people were like you and just waited for their banks to tell them to cancel a credit card they've already suspected was compromised.

As soon as I heard about this I figured out what card I used on PSN and cancelled it. I wasn't going to wait for Sony to confirm or denied it was stolen. Heck, it took Sony a week to give us any info about it.

Abandoning Sony is out of the question for me. I've spend a lot of money on my PS3, now I’m stuck with it until the next generation console is priced under $300.

All I care about is what Sony is going to give me for my troubles. If they decide to screw me over I won't be buying a PS4, but they won't feel that loss for another 5-10 years.

[SavannahLion]

I may be wrong, but didn't the Airforce purchase the PS3's along with a support contract basically guaranteeing hardware support from Sony? Afterall, it's not like you buy a few hundred PS3 consoles from your local Wally World on short notice.

And for clarification, the Airforce isn't using the PS3's as individual servers, they're configured as a cluster combsning the computing power of all the units into one. Something Sony marketed with their Playstation line since the PS2. I think Sony marketed it as the "Cube"? I can't recall.

But I digress. A lot of entities leverage off the shelf hardware for this. I've seen ISP's use those little Apples in a farm, so using a PS3 as part of one, especially since Sony has a separate marketing branch for that express purpose is no surprise.

Anyone else remember when consoles just 'worked'?

We've got the Wii with GPUs taking shits, RROD Xbox 360s, and PS3s that can't go online.

Yeesh.

I have a crapped out Genie with a bad GPU, but yeah, I know what you mean.

[DNA Dan]

People who steal credit card numbers wish that more people were like you and just waited for their banks to tell them to cancel a credit card they've already suspected was compromised.

As soon as I heard about this I figured out what card I used on PSN and cancelled it. I wasn't going to wait for Sony to confirm or denied it was stolen. Heck, it took Sony a week to give us any info about it.

Abandoning Sony is out of the question for me. I've spend a lot of money on my PS3, now I’m stuck with it until the next generation console is priced under $300.

All I care about is what Sony is going to give me for my troubles. If they decide to screw me over I won't be buying a PS4, but they won't feel that loss for another 5-10 years.

Yeah same here. I didn't immediately cancel because I have 4-5 automatic bill pays setup on that card. Also I don't think so highly of credit card companies so I figured I'd let them deal with it. Looking in retrospect I probably should have cancelled it sooner, however it was a good test of the fraud alert system with my bank. I guess I just had too much faith in sony. Like others have said, you "buy into" the access and only go through their gates to use the hardware, I guess I just expected more from them.

But isn't the man behind the curtain usually a mouse being fed cheese on a treadmill?

[DaveMMR]

I may be wrong, but didn't the Airforce purchase the PS3's along with a support contract basically guaranteeing hardware support from Sony? Afterall, it's not like you buy a few hundred PS3 consoles from your local Wally World on short notice.

I'll have to take your word for it there but I'm guessing the Airforce isn't worried too much about the same concerns the rest of the users are having (disabled features, etc.)  considering Sony loves that they can tout this as an example of the PS3's power. 

Anyone else remember when consoles just 'worked'?

We've got the Wii with GPUs taking shits, RROD Xbox 360s, and PS3s that can't go online.

Yeesh.

Of all three, Wii's probably the sturdiest in terms of "uptime".  That may be attributed to the fact it does the least. I suppose it's biggest weakness is also a strength. 

[SNAAKE]

my luck with nintendo has been great. only "problem" I can think of is how my ds lite screen got scratched(tiny) THROUGH screen protector everything else always worked.

[RyoriNoTetsujin]

I just want to post here "for the record" that I had a card on file on my PSN account, and nothing at all has happened to it since the breach. Nothing. No fraud protection alerts, no phantom charges.

It's funny though: About a week before the breach, the Amex that I had previously attached to my PSN account was compromised.  A real person at Amex' fraud protection services called me to ask about a random $1.00(!) charge on my account which turned out to be fraudulent.  Got a new card from Amex in 2 days, end of story...

... except that I switched the card on my PSN account to a Visa card that is still on file... ONE day before the breach. D'oh.

I keep a close eye on all my finances, and I don't auto-pay anything, so I know what's going on with my cards.  I'm not worried, but I admit I am going to take that card off the system once the PSN is back up.

If nothing else, it'll keep me from making impulse purchases.  AND I'll get to walk a couple of blocks over to GameStop anytime I do decide to buy something on the PSN. So really, it's a healthy choice.  Sony is just looking out for my health. 

[CCM]

I'm not worried, but I admit I am going to take that card off the system once the PSN is back up.

That really doesn't do you any good if someone already stole that CC number...


I closed my CC that was attached to PSN as soon as I heard about the breach.   I don't like the 'wait and see' approach when it comes to CC fraud.

[Samstag]

I may be wrong, but didn't the Airforce purchase the PS3's along with a support contract basically guaranteeing hardware support from Sony? Afterall, it's not like you buy a few hundred PS3 consoles from your local Wally World on short notice.

I'll have to take your word for it there but I'm guessing the Airforce isn't worried too much about the same concerns the rest of the users are having (disabled features, etc.)  considering Sony loves that they can tout this as an example of the PS3's power. 

The Air Force uses OtherOS, which is a disabled feature.  So it's not something Sony can brag about.

It'd be like running a bunch of commercials about how awesome the new Socom is when playing online with your friends, except that they actually do that.

[hypernova]

Also I don't think so highly of credit card companies so I figured I'd let them deal with it.

Wouldn't that make you a little MORE proactive regarding the situation?