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Re: econ - Now with pictures
« Reply #40 on: March 18, 2011, 11:13:36 am »
How hot does it get sitting in your lap?

The cooling is very effective and the board uses very little power, so if you were to plant it in your lab, it wouldn't be very hot. Cooloer than any notebook im sure.

But I don't see why you would put it in your lab though. It's supposed to be placed on a coffee table.
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Re: econ - Now with pictures
« Reply #41 on: March 18, 2011, 11:18:39 am »
What FE and OS are you using?

I didn't say the little wireless xbox 360 dongle thingy.  Did I miss it?  or are you connecting it outside the box?  WHat are you using to connect the joystick to the PC?

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Re: econ - Now with pictures
« Reply #42 on: March 18, 2011, 11:24:43 am »
What FE and OS are you using?

I didn't say the little wireless xbox 360 dongle thingy.  Did I miss it?  or are you connecting it outside the box?  WHat are you using to connect the joystick to the PC?

OS is Windows 7. I'm not completely sure about the FE, using MaLa FE, but considering HyperSpin FE because it looks good on a HDTV.

Yes, I use a standard Xbox 360 dongle that's connected internally.

I use a MiniPAC for encoding and an E-limitator for 2/4/8-way switching. I have no experience with the E-limitator and there is only poorly made reviews avialable, so I got a test sample to see if it actually works.
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« Reply #43 on: March 18, 2011, 11:42:54 am »
how loud is it?  I noticed the build has fans to cool it.  Why didn't you use a atom with passive, fanless cooling like Vigo did on his SNES build? 

Is it because this processor is better?  How does this compare to an Atom?

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« Reply #44 on: March 18, 2011, 12:00:44 pm »
how loud is it?  I noticed the build has fans to cool it.  Why didn't you use a atom with passive, fanless cooling like Vigo did on his SNES build?  

Is it because this processor is better?  How does this compare to an Atom?

3D gfx is 10-20 times faster than the onboard 3150 on Atom.

It's also faster than Atom + Nvidia ION 1/2, and uses the same amount of power.

Both fans run at very low speed and you can only hear them if you place your ear 3-4 cm from the fan. My plasma is much much louder and my PS3 slim is extremely loud compared.

I could also have used one of the new i5 boards with integrated intel HD gfx. It's much more expensive though, so that have to be another time :)

If you use a passive cooled motherboard, your cabinet fan has to do the work instead, so it's not as clever as you might think. I could turn of the cabinet fan, but then I would have to beef up the cpu-cooler. It's better to have more low speed fans, than fewer with higher rpm.

AMD Zacate is completely new platform with DX11 gfx, and it's superior to the atom board in every way. It's also superior to Nvidia Atom/ION, but not with the same huge margin.
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Re: econ - Now with pictures
« Reply #45 on: March 18, 2011, 12:14:06 pm »
You're right and I agree, that would be much more convenient. The cabinet accepts any mini-itx board, so when wireless HDMI comes (and that very soon) I will upgrade the board. Until then, I have the wireless Xbox 360 controllers too.

I've had a 47" LG TV for a year now and it's wireless HDMI. The only cord going to the TV is a power cord.

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« Reply #46 on: March 18, 2011, 12:19:23 pm »
You're right and I agree, that would be much more convenient. The cabinet accepts any mini-itx board, so when wireless HDMI comes (and that very soon) I will upgrade the board. Until then, I have the wireless Xbox 360 controllers too.

I've had a 47" LG TV for a year now and it's wireless HDMI. The only cord going to the TV is a power cord.

Sounds awesome. I't upgrading as soon as there is a mother board with this tech.
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Re: econ - Now with pictures
« Reply #47 on: March 18, 2011, 12:35:29 pm »
good to know, I don't know much about atoms and that sort of thing.

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« Reply #48 on: March 18, 2011, 12:58:24 pm »
good to know, I don't know much about atoms and that sort of thing.

I used a Atom board for the Nanocade cabinet, and I actually think the Atom is a fine CPU, byt Intel's integrated gfx is just terrible. Expecially the image quality is terrible :/

I'm very happy about my AMD Zacate board. I can deffinately recommend this if you need a mini-itx platform.
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Re: econ - Now with pictures
« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2011, 03:12:41 am »
I think this design is super rad!! It is very Atari-esque. It would look even more so with some nice wood grain on the sides. I'm actually planning something very similar, but it will definitely be attached to my monolithic htpc  next to my plasma screen, so i'll probably go the wireless controller route. However, I gotta say the novelty of building something like this IS that it will be portable, and ready to party at a friends house, which is very appealing. Again, like you said, very different than a cabinet, but let's face it, for console games sitting back on the couch, this thing will rock. A month ago my 4 year old Shuttle PC died on me, and the thought of having my entire Hyperspin setup going mobile again, but even slimmer gets me thinking. Good work! don't stop the posts...

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« Reply #50 on: March 19, 2011, 11:24:44 am »
I think this design is super rad!! It is very Atari-esque. It would look even more so with some nice wood grain on the sides. I'm actually planning something very similar, but it will definitely be attached to my monolithic htpc  next to my plasma screen, so i'll probably go the wireless controller route. However, I gotta say the novelty of building something like this IS that it will be portable, and ready to party at a friends house, which is very appealing. Again, like you said, very different than a cabinet, but let's face it, for console games sitting back on the couch, this thing will rock. A month ago my 4 year old Shuttle PC died on me, and the thought of having my entire Hyperspin setup going mobile again, but even slimmer gets me thinking. Good work! don't stop the posts...

I looking for just the right wood veneer for the sides. I think I am going to use real wood :)

Thanks, I will update the thread tomorrow :)

 
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« Reply #51 on: March 20, 2011, 07:24:52 am »
DU er en million!
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« Reply #52 on: March 21, 2011, 04:05:21 am »
Controls added...

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« Reply #53 on: March 21, 2011, 06:54:57 am »
brilliant idea, I used to have my PC under the TV and play arcade games on it using my xbox 360 controller. The missus eventually got fed up with it and banished it to the garage (where I am in the process of making a cab to put it in)

Something like this would have saved me a lot of ball ache  ;)

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« Reply #54 on: March 21, 2011, 08:14:25 am »
That's precisely what it is made for :)

The arcade controls is mostly for using when bringing it to friends and family, and to look good while standing under the TV.

No way I would be able to have my arcade cabinet in the living room. And also that console games feels 10 times better on a big screen with a good gamepad, than playing them on a arcade cab.

Now I'm looking forward to testing the E-limitator to see if it works...
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Re: econ
« Reply #56 on: March 22, 2011, 01:05:00 am »
Wow. Touchy.  :angry: Dont post if you cant handle feedback.

Oh, I see, you're the essence of perfection and all of your ideas are flawless. ---meecrob---.

BTW - I think the controllers look poor on the unit, not cool. What successful console EVER had the controls FIXED to the main unit? Sorry, I've liked some of your past projects, I just dont care for this one.


I'll be waiting patiently for your defensive, attacking reply. :laugh2:

Wow, what a jackass. Looks pretty cool 2 me.

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« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2011, 04:51:38 am »
Wooden sides would be a nice touch. Sorta like a cool analog synth- http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FMBJEkaC8Lw/SOZc2RLvPlI/AAAAAAAAaD4/kn5cb9reCuU/s400/2577744953_b5f88b238c_b.jpg

That precisely what I had in mind :)

I just ordered some real wood American walnut veneer that I am going to apply with epoxy glue (recommended for applying veneer to plastic). Pretty expensive stuff, but it will give it an edge, or at least I hope so. I will of course post some pics before applying it.
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« Reply #58 on: March 22, 2011, 04:52:19 am »
Wooden sides would be a nice touch. Sorta like a cool analog synth- http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_FMBJEkaC8Lw/SOZc2RLvPlI/AAAAAAAAaD4/kn5cb9reCuU/s400/2577744953_b5f88b238c_b.jpg

That precisely what I had in mind :)

I just ordered some real wood American walnut veneer that I am going to apply with epoxy glue (recommended for applying veneer to plastic). Pretty expensive stuff, but it will give it an edge, or at least I hope so. I will of course post some pics before applying it.

Best not to comment on that... But thanks  :angel:
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« Reply #59 on: March 22, 2011, 08:13:03 am »
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Wow, what a jackass. Looks pretty cool 2 me.

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« Reply #60 on: March 22, 2011, 08:36:18 am »
  :o
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« Reply #61 on: March 22, 2011, 10:21:50 am »
If I had this, it would sit in my truck. So I could take it EVERYWHERE. Having the guts inside is genius imo - for portability. My arcade machine isn't even nearly done and when my friends come over we huddle around a 15" screen I have set up for testing and an x-arcade. And my xbox lives a lonely life except for when my fiance plays the sims.

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« Reply #62 on: March 22, 2011, 10:39:53 am »
I think burger king diamonds nes pc and vigos snes are better executions.  This has given me some ideas though.  need to get through cab one first though...

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« Reply #63 on: March 22, 2011, 03:45:50 pm »
any pics of it in action?

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« Reply #64 on: March 22, 2011, 04:59:16 pm »
I do like the external design, the angles, and the use of acrylic.  Well done on the aesthetics.  I would suggest streamlining the I/O panel (e.g. eliminate it entirely and leave ports for HDMI & power only, since you most likely will never use audio, PS/2, etc.) and maybe modify the rear vent to match the top vent.  For the next iteration, have you considered the implementation of a battery? Perhaps converting the internals of a laptop?

Again, well done and good luck on the build.
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« Reply #65 on: March 22, 2011, 06:25:35 pm »
I do like the external design, the angles, and the use of acrylic.  Well done on the aesthetics.  I would suggest streamlining the I/O panel (e.g. eliminate it entirely and leave ports for HDMI & power only, since you most likely will never use audio, PS/2, etc.) and maybe modify the rear vent to match the top vent.  For the next iteration, have you considered the implementation of a battery? Perhaps converting the internals of a laptop?

Again, well done and good luck on the build.

This is supposed to be sold as a acrylic kit to fit any and every mini-itx board made, so an IO shield is much needed. Battery is to difficult to get to work probably and won't make sense for a kit.

You're right about the fan vent, it would be better if it matched the one in top, but that would limit the airflow to much. The one on top is only for suction and the other is for blowing through. A vent for blowing has to be as open as possible in the size of the fan. A vent for suction is another deal, it can be large and spread around the case depending where you want your airflow from.

But I agree that it would be better if they had the same look. The back side is not a huge concern though.

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« Reply #66 on: March 22, 2011, 06:29:03 pm »
I think burger king diamonds nes pc and vigos snes are better executions.  This has given me some ideas though.  need to get through cab one first though...

This is supposed to be sold as a kit, and that's why it is pretty strange to compare it to a NES/SNES mod. That would be pretty hard to make as a kit.

Yes I know I cannot make a better looking cabinet than two of the most iconic gaming creations ever made :)
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« Reply #67 on: March 26, 2011, 05:49:41 am »
New pics added, now with veneer...
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« Reply #68 on: March 26, 2011, 07:36:15 am »
New pics added, now with veneer...

That looks great!  :applaud:

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« Reply #69 on: March 26, 2011, 08:06:22 am »
Thanks

It worked much better than I expected. The veneer, the epoxy and the way I mounted just worked perfectly and I really didn't expect it to.

Just wait till you see it after the second layer of varnish and with pictures taken with a proper camera (not my mobile phone). Huge difference with the veneer.
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« Reply #70 on: March 26, 2011, 08:41:36 am »
Really looking good!

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« Reply #71 on: March 26, 2011, 09:49:35 am »
The veneer looks very good.

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« Reply #72 on: March 26, 2011, 10:10:32 am »
Those wooden sides look amazing. Is the epoxy bonding well though? Acrylic really only seems to bond well to itself. I would probably sink a couple of short screws through the acrylic into the backside of the wood just to be safe. Also, are you thinking about any graphic overlay themes? It could look pretty retro with a classic pong motif. Would that acrylic be sturdy enough to rock a weighted spinner?

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« Reply #73 on: March 26, 2011, 10:24:38 am »
Those wooden sides look amazing. Is the epoxy bonding well though? Acrylic really only seems to bond well to itself. I would probably sink a couple of short screws through the acrylic into the backside of the wood just to be safe. Also, are you thinking about any graphic overlay themes? It could look pretty retro with a classic pong motif. Would that acrylic be sturdy enough to rock a weighted spinner?

The veneer is only 0.6 mm - But the epoxy bonds very vell on the acrylics, but you need to sand it down and clean first.

It would be perfect with a pong theme  :applaud: . The acrylics would easily support a weighted spinner.
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« Reply #74 on: March 26, 2011, 10:59:29 am »
Looks great.  Veneer sort of gives a retro touch whereas the console is very futuristic as well.  :applaud: :applaud:

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« Reply #75 on: May 27, 2011, 02:17:25 pm »
Ever get this one finished?

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« Reply #76 on: September 14, 2011, 09:07:17 am »
Finished and for sale to the highest bidder.

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« Reply #77 on: September 14, 2011, 09:19:25 am »
What's the bidding at now?  I'd be interested, although my Wife would kill me.  I love the build, love the idea, and think it looks both contemporary as well as retro all at the same time.  It's revolutionary in the same way IKEA is.  Big, big set of thumbs up here.

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« Reply #78 on: September 14, 2011, 09:31:05 am »
Thanks!

No bids yet :) I made it for sale just now.
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Re: econ - Now with final pictures! - And it's for sale to highest bidder!
« Reply #79 on: September 14, 2011, 09:39:31 am »
Do you have a starting bid?  I would assume you would want to recoup most of your build costs...  (Funny thing I've learned is that most people don't want to pay for your labour, even though you've put heart and soul into something - go figure.)  Are you keeping this a 'silent auction', or do you expect bids in the thread? (The latter means the obvious, "ONE DOLLAR!" should rear it's ugly head any minute now...)

What are you thinking?