Best Buy fail = I win!

[Mikezilla]

Ask RayB. 

[Dartful Dodger]

Does anyone else out there follow that logic? How does asking store employees about the validity of a price, showing them exactly where you think the issue is, and checking with them if the price is valid = trying to screw over Best Buy???

I can follow your logic, but I can also see the holes in it.

I knew they had to honor that price because when I used to work at places like Sears, Big 5, etc. they had to honor whatever the price tag read.

I knew they had to honor it.

He may have been checking if the price was valid, but valid or not (according to his logic) he knew he was getting it for that price.

[Vigo]

Seriously, Dartful? Are you really going to cast the first stone on Dre-w for getting $30 off of a video game?

You are guilty of having intentions to screw others much, much, much more than Dre-w:

I just bought a house so I want to unload the condo.  There's a bunch of condos in my building that are going for 4 grand less than I owe on mine and they aren't even selling.  I'm going to talk to a lawyer this week to see if I should let the condo go into forecloser or try and negotiate a short sale with the bank.

It'll screw my credit rating, but I have a house, a car and credit cards so I figure by the time I need a good credit score again I'll have built it back up.

Again, I'm not sure how forclosers/short sales work especially when you can afford to pay your mortgage and you’re just choosing not to. If they can take the difference out of my paycheck or take the other house, I won’t do it.

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=104733.msg1109556#msg1109556

Yeah, you're the guy who didn't want to lose money on the condo investment you made, so you wanted to unload it all on the bank, screwing the bank for thousands, and forcing them to be the ones to put in the effort trying to sell it, even though you could afford to pay for it. If someone here is guilty of intentionally going in and trying to screw someone else, it would be you. I only hope you weren't successful in your attempt.

I'm done with your perverted sense of ethics.
 

[dre-w]

 
Best Buy sale = I win
Well I don't think that would be much of a win now if it was on sale legitimately..

Let's see, how we can reword this title w/o me coming off sounding like someone who had this diabolical plan to rip off Best Buy with hopes of bankrupting them by purchasing a video game that was accidently mispriced by their staff..

Best Buy mistake = me rewarded by manager

A Best Buy error = A best buy for me

Best Buy employees = best people to buy from

[lilshawn]

Just because you all can't get awesome deals on stuff doesn't mean you have to crawl up someones bum because they did.  

do you complain when something goes on sale?
do you tell them they should be selling it at the full retail price not a sale price?
do you refuse to buy items if they are sale?

of course not.

like i said, they don't care if they sell something at 59.99, 29.99, 9.99 or 0.99 because the big box company bought 1,280 cases of them at 0.12 cents each... to give it to you at a "deeply discounted" price (ERROR OR NOT) they still made a heap load of money from it. the only reason it's 59.99 in the first place is because THATS WHAT THE MARKET WILL PAY. SERIOUSLY... some items have an 8,000% (eight THOUSAND percent) markup.

i'm not saying go stick it to the man, or that getting a discount is wrong. if someone mis-labels an item and they have to sell it for that price... big deal, go fix the others. nobody's getting fired. nobody's going out of business.

last i heard big box company executives where not going hungry.

[Dartful Dodger]

Vigo compares screwing Best Buy with screwing Banks.

Vigo fail = I win!

[saint]

Meh, this thread is turning nasty. Lighten it up please or have me lock it, either way...

[Mikezilla]

Vigo compares screwing Best Buy with screwing Banks.

Vigo fail = I win!

I think he is saying that youre a bit hypocritical, especially in magnitude of the offence. The dude got a discount because something was priced wrong in the amount of 30 bucks. And like Lilshawn said, they make so much money on those things anyway, they already turned a profit even with the price being what it was. Not paying your mortgage because you know the only consequence will be a bad credit score is a tad different. So its easier to say "screw the bank, if they werent charging such high interest rates, I would be able to afford paying my mortgage" than to say "screw Best Buy, they priced a game wrong and Im not going to pay full price due to their error"? Just seems a little...um... I dont know... Retarded?

I love how you call it "screwing Best Buy". Its actually laughable. THEY are the ones that "screwed" themselves by not listing the correct price.

I cant believe either that Mario Galaxy isnt a greatest hit, or whatever the Wii calls their old games anyway.

[BobbyG66]

If something is labeled incorrectly, the store pretty much has to honor it. Unless someone is switching labels.
I always demand they do, it false advertizing if they don't.

In the USA, it depends on the State you live in before you can say false advertising (remember, its private property ((and no, you dont have to enter)) and if it wasnt publicly advertised, then it isnt advertised - I learned that in my legal economics/business/labor classes). Most stores try to make sure their items are priced right, sometimes there are errors. Usually to save a future customer, they go ahead and honor the label/sign.

Fordman

Ok, I guess it doen't follow the legal definition.
I was just taking it as the price labeled is the price they have to honor.
They are advertising it in the store.

It's like others have said, they have old sale signs up and they honor the price.
They usually take them down right away.

Now, I could see if they had some generic sign and the sign or product get misplaced then maybe.
But if something has a sticker on it with a price, that should be the price.

[Vigo]

Vigo compares screwing Best Buy with screwing Banks.

Vigo fail = I win!

I think he is saying that youre a bit hypocritical, especially in magnitude of the offence. The dude got a discount because something was priced wrong in the amount of 30 bucks. And like Lilshawn said, they make so much money on those things anyway, they already turned a profit even with the price being what it was. Not paying your mortgage because you know the only consequence will be a bad credit score is a tad different. So its easier to say "screw the bank, if they werent charging such high interest rates, I would be able to afford paying my mortgage" than to say "screw Best Buy, they priced a game wrong and Im not going to pay full price due to their error"? Just seems a little...um... I dont know... Retarded?

I love how you call it "screwing Best Buy". Its actually laughable. THEY are the ones that "screwed" themselves by not listing the correct price.

I cant believe either that Mario Galaxy isnt a greatest hit, or whatever the Wii calls their old games anyway.

Thanks, mike!  That's exactly what I mean. I wasn't trying to compare Best buy with the Banks at all, I'm just trying to point out the hyprocacy in Dartful's view.

Dartful, I'm not trying to call you out for the voluntary forclosure thing, sorry if I sounded too condemning. I'm no moral crusader. I understand you were just trying to do what was most beneficial to you. I just pointed out a case where you admitted you could pay your bills, but wanted to dump it others for your personal benefit....simply to point out that you really are not the person to be slamming a guy $30 off of a video game.

[Mikezilla]

Hear hear brotha.  . That last sentence was gold. 

[lilshawn]

Screwing Best Buy would have been going back and getting ALL the rest of the Super Mario Galaxy 2 games and making them sell them to him at that price, then later returning them for the full price because he "forgot" the receipt.

[Vigo]

Hear hear brotha.  . That last sentence was gold. 

Thanks, Mike...and I appreciate you putting my earlier post into focus. I'm pretty sure I am partly responsible for Saint chiming in... I'll admit, I was pretty grouchy when I wrote it.

Angry posting has the same sort of imparment as drunk posting, but the results are just not nearly as funny.

Screwing Best Buy would have been going back and getting ALL the rest of the Super Mario Galaxy 2 games and making them sell them to him at that price, then later returning them for the full price because he "forgot" the receipt.

This trick allegedly works pretty well for carting games back and forth between Best Buy and Wal-Mart.  I've had friends clear a couple hundred in cash for their trouble with receipts to prove it.

 

And there are people who do that every chance they get. The only time that I  "forgot"  my receipt is the time that I got two of the same video game for my birthday, and I needed to exchange one for a different game. The gift receipt I was given was bought more than 30 days from when it was gifted to me, though.

I never thought they would make such a big stink about exchanging a sealed video game with receipt for some other game, and leave such a gaping loophole in the return policy at the same time.

[Dartful Dodger]

No problem Vigo, I understand. You couldn't attack the message so you attacked the messenger.

Since you're obviously a fan of mine you already know that I don't get offended, in fact I found your frustration entertaining.

[lilshawn]

now that we have ALLLLL this behind us...

[Vigo]

No problem Vigo, I understand. You couldn't attack the message so you attacked the messenger.

Since you're obviously a fan of mine you already know that I don't get offended, in fact I found your frustration entertaining.

I made it pretty clear I wasn't trying to attack you, even though it's all too easy to do, I was just grouchy yesterday...so it came off as a bit of a rant...and sorry to burst your bubble, but I wasn't frustrated at you, just at my ---smurfy--- job. It was a good way to vent, so I guess I should thank you. 

And yeah, I know you well enough, I also remember you were always dangling around P&R, I never cared enough to request access after it got locked down, but I assume you are still the life of the party around there? 

[ChadTower]

Now that the thread has devolved into hurt feelings and strong opinions about entitlement and sticking it to the man...

...how many people in this thread downloaded SMG2 off a torrent site?   

[hypernova]

*raises hand*

Still haven't played it, though. 

[lilshawn]

*raises hand*

Still haven't played it, though. 

+1... played for 10 minutes though... just to make sure it worked.

[hyiu]

download it is ok....
starting a thread about it is ok too...
just call it "recycling data on the internet..."

then everybody hold hands... lol...
it almost sounded "green"...

but if you start a thread called
"I downloaded = best buy fail !!"...

then it will turn into a 3 page rant thread... lol....

for the record... I don't have that game... yet...

[lilshawn]

but if you start a thread called
"I downloaded = best buy fail !!"...

then it will turn into a 3 page rant thread... lol....

it already is a 3 page rant thread 

[Fordman]

Screwing Best Buy would have been going back and getting ALL the rest of the Super Mario Galaxy 2 games and making them sell them to him at that price, then later returning them for the full price because he "forgot" the receipt.

This is the main reason why the stores' return policies have changed a lot in the last 10 years. People have made a lot of money by buying at best buy on the 'day after thanksgiving', holding on to the item, then returning it for full price. Now that is outright theft! (also why wal-mart has their own barcodes on major retail items; ie Proctor & Gamble products)

I had a buddy that bought $600 worth of items at other stores at deep discounts, taken them all back the best buy, "forgot receipt", got the store credit, walked out with $740 TV. He stole $140 from Best Buy! That is why the stores keep changing their return policies.

Fordman

[SavannahLion]

Now that is outright theft! (also why wal-mart has their own barcodes on major retail items; ie Proctor & Gamble products)

Ah... the dreaded Wal*Mart SKU. That's not the only reason Wal*Mart use it. Remember about oh... ten or fifteen years ago Wal*Mart actually had a say on game content? For those who don't remember, basically game companies would create a whole different SKU of a particular game because Wal*Mart policies forbade certain games with certain content to be sold at their stores. IIRC, Xatrix practically bent over double to get "qualified" for the Wal*Mart SKU (they made up for it by letting buyers download patches to their Wal*Mart games to bring it to par with non-Wally games). I believe Valve considered it at one point as well....

I believe Wal*Mart finally realized the fallacy of their logic when the game devs finally told Wally to shove it. Gamers were going to get their non-wally friendly games regardless of what Wal*Mart wanted and if they weren't going to spend their dollars at Wally, they had no problems spending it elsewhere. Thank the Gods the game companies quit bending to Wally's will.

In a nutshell, the SKU's are different because the products are literally different. I've never purchased music at Wally world, but don't they still censor all their music? And half of their crap kitchenware gets a Wally SKU because they've cut so many corners they're really not the same product elsewhere.

In any case, Wally World isn't the only one that does that. Home Depot and Lowes do that with their appliances, even if the appliances are identical. It's built into their contracts (or whatever they use). Which is truly lame, they'll take back ---fouled up beyond all recognition--- up lumber from literally anywhere and used sewage plumbing but won't touch an appliance Go figure.

[ChadTower]

Actually, a lot of major manufacturers have different models for different major retail chains.  You'll look at a TV at one chain store and see one model number.  At another store the button is an oval instead of a circle and has a different model number but is identical in every other way.  That's how they offer such awesome price match policies that they never actually have to use.  You can't price match a TV model that only exists in your store.

[ChadTower]

The difference is probably the amount of people who can Google on a mobile vs having to have done it at home beforehand.

[Mikezilla]

When Circuit City went under, everyone was googling everything and very few folks were buying anything.

I miss Circuit City. Service was state of the art. I hate having to go to BB for everything, Im sure as hell not going to Fry's either, because its a 45 minute drive. 

[CheffoJeffo]

When Circuit City went under, everyone was googling everything and very few folks were buying anything.

I miss Circuit City. Service was state of the art. I hate having to go to BB for everything, Im sure as hell not going to Fry's either, because its a 45 minute drive. 

And who knows how many tickets you would get in that timeframe ?

 

[HaRuMaN]

When Circuit City went under, everyone was googling everything and very few folks were buying anything.

I miss Circuit City. Service was state of the art. I hate having to go to BB for everything, Im sure as hell not going to Fry's either, because its a 45 minute drive. 

And who knows how many tickets you would get in that timeframe ?

 

Bwahahahahahahahahahaha

[Mikezilla]

When Circuit City went under, everyone was googling everything and very few folks were buying anything.

I miss Circuit City. Service was state of the art. I hate having to go to BB for everything, Im sure as hell not going to Fry's either, because its a 45 minute drive. 

And who knows how many tickets you would get in that timeframe ?

 

Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- that was funny. Well played good sir. 

[dre-w]

I miss Circuit City. Service was state of the art. I hate having to go to BB for everything, Im sure as hell not going to Fry's either, because its a 45 minute drive. 

Yeh I got a heck of a deal at CC on my Philips 40" LCD w/ ambilight feature for only $900 back in '07..  They were selling it for somewhere around $1200 and I had been eyeballin it for awhile, so when I finally got my tax return I went in there to purchase it only to find out that they were sold out of that model..  But the guy was really cool, wasn't trying to sell me on similiar crap or upsell, he called other stores to check if they had any but no luck, so he mentioned I could buy the floor model if I wanted and I'd get a big discount, I had never purchased anything before that was a floor model so I was pretty skeptical at first but when he said he'd throw in a 3 year warranty for only $100.. that worked for me!  Still less than what I had originally gone in there looking to spend so..  go figure I buy the 3 year warranty and they go out of business a year later.. ha

Which Frys do you live 45 mins from?  The one of the 91 by Camelot?

[Vigo]

Up in Minnesota, I think I would take a Fry's at any day. Living in BB stomping grounds does nothing for bringing the price point down. We have a couple Ultimate Electronics, which I only went to once. It was a large store layout, but seemed to be only filled with a bunch of stereo equipment lying around on the floor, huge waste of space. Not to mention the prices were only on par with BB.

Yep, I shop Newegg a lot.

[hyiu]

I miss Circuit City. Service was state of the art. I hate having to go to BB for everything, Im sure as hell not going to Fry's either, because its a 45 minute drive. 

Yeh I got a heck of a deal at CC on my Philips 40" LCD w/ ambilight feature for only $900 back in '07..  They were selling it for somewhere around $1200 and I had been eyeballin it for awhile, so when I finally got my tax return I went in there to purchase it only to find out that they were sold out of that model..  But the guy was really cool, wasn't trying to sell me on similiar crap or upsell, he called other stores to check if they had any but no luck, so he mentioned I could buy the floor model if I wanted and I'd get a big discount, I had never purchased anything before that was a floor model so I was pretty skeptical at first but when he said he'd throw in a 3 year warranty for only $100.. that worked for me!  Still less than what I had originally gone in there looking to spend so..  go figure I buy the 3 year warranty and they go out of business a year later.. ha

Which Frys do you live 45 mins from?  The one of the 91 by Camelot?

I would stay away from floor model TVs... cos they are turned on whenever the store is open, and sometimes, even when they're closed.  Also, a lot of them have their settings maxed... that will shorten the tv's life a lot...
well, but you're sure you wont get any dead pixel....

[knave]

While I agree with that, I have to say that sometimes the savings is worth it. I picked up a 32" Sony LCD 1080p TV for under $300 at Sears because it was a demo. It was in perfect condition and the picture is awesome. I was wary but it is a great TV. I still have trouble finding as good a TV for that price.

[Mikezilla]

I miss Circuit City. Service was state of the art. I hate having to go to BB for everything, Im sure as hell not going to Fry's either, because its a 45 minute drive. 

Which Frys do you live 45 mins from?  The one of the 91 by Camelot?

The one down here in San Diego. It used to be an Incredible Universe. Its off the 15 freeway. I live east, and there is ALWAYS traffic so it takes about that long. Sometimes I actually like walking around the store instead of shopping for stuff at Newegg, but I suppose if there arent too many other places to shop at except for Best Buy, then Newegg will be getting my business.

[dre-w]

Oh right on, I'm headin up to SD for Supercross in Feb.  What the heck was "Incredible Universe"??  I keep hearing people talk about that..  was that something cool I missed out on or was it just another Frys?  But yeh I'm with you on the walking around the stores, sometimes you'll find stuff there they don't even have listed on their website.  About 3 years ago I went into Frys and they had a bunch of NES carts on an endcap.  They were all the same game though, I think it was a hockey game and some other sports game and for some reason they were all just cartridges and had clearance stickers on them.  I wonder if they used to do trade-ins or if they just found all those games in the back stockroom haha

[SavannahLion]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incredible_Universe

Basically, it was a bunch of Rat Shack stores on super steroids. IIRC, there wasn't anybody like Incredible Universe on the same scale when they first opened their stores. According to the Wikipedia they folded because of competition from stores like Best Buy. Personally, I think it was a bit more than that. I think the stores were a bit ahead of their time and Tandy really didn't understand how to operate such a business. For instance, the old IU is so far out of the way that the only reason anyone would go in that direction is if they were headed specifically to that store, Arco or trying to hit the I-5. I didn't even know that store existed until a friend of mine took me there and that was long after Frys took it over.

Even when IU sold their only profitable stores to Frys, that store still sucked balls. Partly because of the location but mostly due to Frys tendency to treat everyone like criminals and cattle. But I guess that business model is successful enough, Frys opened another store East of that location right next to the automall.

Not that anyone cares, but the old Incredible Universe building aka Frys is still on Tandy Drive except the owners of Frys won't admit it. Pretty ---smurfing--- lame.

[SavannahLion]

About 3 years ago I went into Frys and they had a bunch of NES carts on an endcap.  They were all the same game though, I think it was a hockey game and some other sports game and for some reason they were all just cartridges and had clearance stickers on them.  I wonder if they used to do trade-ins or if they just found all those games in the back stockroom haha

I'm not sure but I think there was actually a company that resold used games, kind of like Gamestop. I saw a similar set up at K-Mart. A bunch of individual NES carts in separate plastic baggies and stickers. No boxes, manuals, sleeves or anything. The selection was pretty crappy though. There was probably about 30 games or so and only four or five unique titles.

Anyhow, I digress. I have a vague recollection of some company buying NES carts in bulk (online perhaps?) and reselling them through stores like merchandise. I believe K-Mart was one of the carriers. Frys might have been another. I think they were planning to buy older console games as they aged, such as the Genesis, SNES, so on and so forth and sell them at affordable prices. I think I might have seen a few bagged Gennie games. I can't quite recall.

Nothing further ever manifested though.

edit: Wait. Three years ago? I saw those plastic baggie carts in K-Mart sometime around 200..2ish. I think I last saw them right around the time K-Mart liquidated all their PSOne peripherals. Picked up two PSOne monitors for less than $20.

[SavannahLion]

Basically, it was a bunch of Rat Shack stores on super steroids.

No, not really.  It was basically a bunch of different stores inside one giant one.  You had the appliance store, video game store, stereo store, etc.  All united by a central stage that had either bands or an in-store DJ.  I recall the stores were more or less isolated from each other with half walls and such.

Have you actually worked at Rat Shack? Their entire goal is to put a shack within 5 minutes of every person in America then become the go-to store for everythin. A lot like how IU was.

All Fry's maps are simplified like that, btw.

It's not about the pretty pictures PBJ, its about the address. Check again.

[shmokes]

I read through about half of the first page and got bored, so maybe this has been addressed.  But Best Buy has no legal duty to honor accidentally mis-labeled items.  That's not false advertising.  Their decision to honor the price was a customer-satisfaction based policy decision.

The trick in situations like these is to ask yourself, is this law ridiculous?  A law that made a store honor a mistake like this when the mistake has caused nobody substantial harm would be absurd.  The law (usually) is not an ass.  People are inclined to believe these urban myths when they want to, i.e., when the law gives them some absurdly unfair advantage.  If you operate on the assumption that the law is not an ass your ---That which is odiferous and causeth plants to grow--- meter will help you spot these things 9 times out of 10 (infrequently the law actually is an ass).

[Hoopz]

Trust the guy selling speakers out of his van, it's breaking his heart to sell them so cheap.

 

Last time I heard that was at Circuit City or CompUsa....  I miss those days.  Best Buy by themselves sucks ass.