No Energy?

[Xiaou2]

 It could be Celiac disease.


 For as long as I can remember, Ive always felt way too tired, too easily.
I just figured that was how I was... and dealt with it.

 But recently, thing have gotten much worse.

 I just went to the Doctors just a week ago, because about over 4weeks ago,
I was elbowing a sandbag so hard that I ruptured them internally. (bursitis)
They had not shown any sign of healing, and were Huge bubbles of fluid under the
skin.

 It seems all my injuries just take way too long to heal.  Im constantly in some
sorta pain, even joint pains.  From this & other info, he concluded Celiac as the main
culprit.

 I had no idea how serious an Allergy to Gluten (wheat) could be.  The Gluten causes
the intestines to get irritated, and cease to absorb nutrients well.
 
 No matter how healthy you eat, barely anything gets absorbed.  In my case, I started to
get brittle nails, which over time got vertical ridges on them.  I also have started to get
searing pains in my knees, and sometimes my finger joints.  Simple cuts take 5x as long
to heal.  A scar Ive had from a surgery over 3yrs ago, looks almost like it was a month
ago. More recently, many spells of diarrhea, bloating & internal pains.

 But the worst, was energy levels.  After getting home from work, It was like I
had ran two marathons.  I was toast.   Intense physical exertion..Would cause me
nearly a week of burning pains.

 And now when I look back at my childhood, it all makes sense...

1) In kindergarten, I was constantly sick. Missed so much school, was sent to pre-first.
2) Physical Shape: Was thin, frail, weak, uncoordinated. Shorter than everyone in class,
even w/ me being older.  This included the woman.
3) Could not concentrate well, and felt tired pretty much all the time.
4) Mood wasnt very good, which may have also been nutrient related.
5) Development was slow. Mentally & Physically.
6) Couldnt gain weight no matter how much food ate. Always felt Very hungry.


 If I can keep away from the gluten, maybe I will finally feel what its like to be
somewhat normal for a change.  Still have to get the blood tests done to confirm 100%...
but Im low on funds & without health care.. so it will have to wait.

 Anyways, I didnt really write this for any sympathy.  I just thought someone else may
have a non-diagnosed Celiac case here as well.  According to whats said,
One in every 133 people has the disease.  I suspect it might even be higher than that.

 

[gryhnd]

Have you been tested yet?

My dad is profoundly celiac. It took him until his 60s before he was correctly diagnosed. Prior to his diagnosis he had chronic GI issues. At one point he perforated, requiring a bowel resectioning.

My brother in law has a lesser form, and pushes his luck. He still drinks normal beer, eats bread, etc.

You would be surprised the places gluten turns up in: toothpaste, cosmetics, grain liquors like whiskey, cosmetics. You have to be really wary. We even use a GF toaster when he visits because one toast crumb can set him off.

Stick with it though, and the changes to your well being will be remarkable.

[gryhnd]

PS - I experiment with GF cooking all the time. It took lots of tries to get fried chicken just right!

PPS - for premix breads, cakes, etc we prefer (in no particular order) Bob's Redmill, GF Pantry and Pamela's

[Xiaou2]

Have you been tested yet?

 Not yet, cause the money is tight (no health insurance)... and the number of test he was
asking would add up quickly.   

 Still, everything seems to match really well.  So I will start to research what I can
and cant eat.

 I can still get away with certain things.. but I pay for it with lots of pain / problems.
Its getting to the point where its not worth the taste.

It took him until his 60s before he was correctly diagnosed.

Wow.  Thats so sad to hear.  I feel for the guy.  Glad that he Finally did get the
correct diagnosis though.  Imagine all the people who lived entire lives like that. Ugg.

 Thanks for the advice, gryhnd.

(and Please email or post me the chicken recipe!     kungfusteve at gmail  )

[shmokes]

I can still get away with certain things..

No you can't.  If you can't afford the tests you need to cut it out of your diet absolutely for a long enough period that you can diagnose yourself beyond a shadow of a doubt.

[drventure]

That sucks, but at least you have an idea of what it might be.

I'd agree with shmokes on that. Swear off wheat and gluten 100% for, say 3-6 months. If it makes a big difference, you'll have your answer.

And it's only a few months.

Just be thankful it's not an allergy to HFCS, that crap truly IS in everything!

[Malenko]

I tried, but I just cant feel sorry for you. Perhaps this is Kharma's way of saying stop being such an ---uvula---?

[Edwards80]

My wife is a coeliac. She was undiagnosed when we met and a few visits to the docs proved fruitless after she had felt ill a few times. Finally picked up by her doctor at home when she was on a break from uni.

It's really simple to manage once you get used to it. Pretty much the only things in the house that aren't gluten free are my loaf of bread for toast in the morning and my beer (there are some good gluten free ales too, so that's not a worry if you like a beer)

We make pizza bases using gluten free flour etc and there are alot of decent gluten free alternative products available now (in the UK at least).

The only times it can be a problem is eating out or visiting friends. Friends will obviously do their best and most restaurants will let you know what is gluten free or ask the chef for you. Some places here are now labelling their gluten free stuff.

Don't worry about it, it's not as big a deal as it seems when you are diagnosed. Don't try to "get away with a little bit" because the way the disease causes your body to react, will cause the same reaction as if you ate a whole loaf. Cut it out completely.

[Zakk]

Maybe stop elbowing sandbags.

I've never elbowed a sandbag, and man, I feel great and well rested 24/7, and I'm a raging alcoholic.

[Jabba]

That sucks, but at least you have an idea of what it might be.

I'd agree with shmokes on that. Swear off wheat and gluten 100% for, say 3-6 months. If it makes a big difference, you'll have your answer.

And it's only a few months.

Just be thankful it's not an allergy to HFCS, that crap truly IS in everything!

You should Watch Food Inc. if you haven't already. It truly incredible how much Corn products (i.e., HFCS) makes its way into 10,000 of products on the shelf... Yeesh! And corn is super subsidized in the states allowing the big 5 food prdictuibn companies a steal of a deal when buying corn...

[shmokes]

Maybe stop elbowing sandbags.

I've never elbowed a sandbag, and man, I feel great and well rested 24/7, and I'm a raging alcoholic.

That is a good point.  Frequently when your body responds to your behavior with pain it's trying to tell you to knock that ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- off.

[saint]

Pain is weakness leaving the body. Wimps.

[Mikezilla]

Pain is weakness leaving the body. Wimps

Yup. Couldnt have said it better myself.

I got diagnosed with diabetes last year, its not as bad as being a coeliac, but it still sucks having to watch everything you in take. Im type 2, so I dont shoot insulin, but I cant drink as much anymore, and I cant eat what I used to eat. Not that big a deal, it makes you stay healthy i suppose. Im in good shape, and luckily it didnt effect me as a kid (size etc) cause I played a lot of sports. Big part of my childhood, if I couldnt do that, I would be a sad little kid. It just sucks at parties...or BBQ's...or pretty much anywhere food is center stage. 

Nevermind it totally freaking sucks. 

[Zakk]

Pain is weakness leaving the body. Wimps.

Your foot must have been super-full of weakness. 

[saint]

Pain is weakness leaving the body. Wimps.

Your foot must have been super-full of weakness. 

The day I tore the ligaments, after the black belt test, I went out to dinner with everyone to celebrate *first* -- only after the celebration did I go to the hospital

[Zakk]

Pain is weakness leaving the body. Wimps.

Your foot must have been super-full of weakness. 

The day I tore the ligaments, after the black belt test, I went out to dinner with everyone to celebrate *first* -- only after the celebration did I go to the hospital

A real man would have said 'screw you hospital!!!' and did roundhouse kicks (with the bad foot of course) to the emergency room nurses. 

[saint]

Pain is weakness leaving the body. Wimps.

Your foot must have been super-full of weakness. 

The day I tore the ligaments, after the black belt test, I went out to dinner with everyone to celebrate *first* -- only after the celebration did I go to the hospital

A real man would have said 'screw you hospital!!!' and did roundhouse kicks (with the bad foot of course) to the emergency room nurses. 

I did tie my new black belt on over the hospital gown.

[Xiaou2]

I tried, but I just cant feel sorry for you. Perhaps this is Kharma's way of saying stop being such an ---uvula---?

 So, do you think that being born with an illness from childhood is a kharmatic reaction
to how a person Might end up as an Adult? Or have I been a Uvula in a previous life,
getting punished for something I cant even remember? 

 Do you think my father taping my mouth, feet and hands together with duct tape,
threatening to cut me up with a Live revving circular saw, at age 5, was result of
this Karma too?  Or how about my 4yr old brother getting tossed into the dryer,
turned on, left in there for some time...  Did he deserve that too?

Or maybe its really you who is the Uvula, and really dont understand why? 


 There is no Kharma.  There is only cause and effect.  People may decide to be mean in
spirit to me, and so Im not always so nice in return.  People are nice to me, and Im nice to
them.  A lot in part to how I was mistreated by both parents & everyone around me in
youth/school.  Im slow to accept new people in my life, and dont get too close very
easily. Dont trust easily. Dont need other people, their opinions, their praise..etc..
cause Ive been on my own half my life.

 I tend to have very different ideas & opinions that rub people into reacting negatively. 
I challenge them fiercely as well, rather than just taking the tap on the cheek.
I dont hate anyone.  But I wont kiss butt, and dont stand for much crap.

 I tend to be very serious sounding online, very brass & not too personal... but in
person, Im actually pretty friendly, easygoing, & get along fine with most people.

  Maybe stop elbowing sandbags.
I've never elbowed a sandbag, and man, I feel great and well rested 24/7, and I'm a raging alcoholic.

 Geez man, I dont know what to say.  A joke, and maybe not, at the same time...

 I train as for Peace & Protection of myself and loved ones.  Having the body of a
marshmallow is only good for cowering & begging for mercy.  Ive had to fight my whole
life, and I can tell you one thing... the hardest fights are "Internal".  And taken me
half my lifetime to heal / overcome.

 If you truely are an Alcoholic, then I say its time to pick up your own Sword, and
start taking a stand for yourself & your loved ones.  Start facing the ugly things that
cause the weaknesses / troubles , and do what you need to get the strength to
live with Love instead of Drug.

 Nobody really feels Great as an Alcoholic.   Thats just an excuse and self delusion.


 As for the disease, it wouldnt matter if I got a papercut.  The thing just wont heal for
well for weeks instead of days.

I got diagnosed with diabetes last year, its not as bad as being a coeliac,

 Hey Mike, very sorry to hear.  I dont think I could handle Diabetes, mostly due to the
needles.  One of my uncles just recently passed away from it.. but then again, he
didnt really take good care of himself either.  Anyways, sorry to hear it, and wish you
well in dealing with it.

 Life is precious. Treasure every Breath. Its the greatest gift that can be had.

Pain is weakness leaving the body. Wimps.

 Nice. I like that.   

 I remember back when I first started in the arts.  The smallest poke in my mallow-body
would cause me major pain and suffering.  Its amazing how the body changes with
a few years of training.  Being able to take extreme abuse, and not really think,
feel, or care much of it.

 Its the fire of pure willpower that drives one past those many pains, to achieve that
level to which the body is hardened like steel.  And once that happens, the challenges
elsewhere in our lives, seem all that much more easy to handle / accomplish.

[Zakk]

If you feel better thinking you've got life all figured out, I'll leave you too it. Sounds like doing things your way have really worked out well for you so far.  Keep on truckin'.

[saint]

 

(unhappy face is for all the messages I had to snip out of this thread)

[CheffoJeffo]

Somebody better fix the fort ...

[missioncontrol]

sure you can take the people out of purgatory, but you can't take the purgatory out of the people

not even 24 hours and you guys are causing trouble... sheeesh can't take you guys anywhere...

[Vanguard]

Why did my posts get snipped and Saint's stayed?   Oh, wait, someone made him a moderator or something, right?

[RayB]

Why did my posts get snipped and Saint's stayed?   Oh, wait, someone made him a moderator or something, right?

       

[gryhnd]

I got diagnosed with diabetes last year, its not as bad as being a coeliac, but it still sucks having to watch everything you in take.

The two often go hand in hand, as the case with my Dad. He's type 2 also. Currently non-insulin dependent.

[Malenko]

no way I got snipped? he called me a uvula

Or maybe its really you who is the Uvula, and really dont understand why? 

Shenannigans! DEATH PUNCH (a sandbag) !!!!!!!!

[Mikezilla]

Hey Mike, very sorry to hear.  I dont think I could handle Diabetes, mostly due to the
needles.  One of my uncles just recently passed away from it.. but then again, he
didnt really take good care of himself either.  Anyways, sorry to hear it, and wish you
well in dealing with it.

 Life is precious. Treasure every Breath. Its the greatest gift that can be had

Thank you sir. I appreciate it. Im a type 2, so luckily I dont have to deal with the needles. Yet. The weird thing is doctors were baffled why I even got in the first place. Im in great shape, and eat right, but one day I was super thirsty, lasted for a week, went and got tested, BAM. Betes. Im half mexican so they said it could be hereditary. They see it so often they dont really care lol.

The two often go hand in hand, as the case with my Dad. He's type 2 also. Currently non-insulin dependent.

Really? Wow I didnt know that...I supposed I "lucked out" then. I was always a healthy kid so I guess thats cool. I always used to kid around (amongst nerds of course) I was like Wolverine cause I healed really quickly. Still do for a diabetic. Sucks about your dad gryhnd, sorry to hear about that. Yup. No insulin dependent! Until my pancreas craps out completely that is.