Re: I am now a blackbelt!

[Malenko]

We don't need more people carrying guns on the streets... Cops kill enough people as it is. Don't need any paranoid trigger happy pedestrians kill off people as well.

Too many men, too many people, makin too many problems. And theres not much love to go `round

[Vanguard]

Read up on Kennisaw Georgia (just outside Atlanta).  

I'm not advocating that everyone run out and buy a gun either.   I'm saying that if you feel the need to be able to defend yourself, do it right.   Like the famous line from The Untouchables, "Don't bring a knife to a gun fight".   Not exactly the quote but a close approximation to keep it PC.

Likely if you find yourself in some sort of altercation, just running/walking away is your best option.   If it that isn't possible you are likely in a life threatening situation and you better be better armed than your attacker.   Trying to land a 3" death blow when a guy with a guy is standing 10 or even 5 feet away from you isn't going to cut it.   Hell, even a tazer would probably be a better option that getting into a close quarter situation.

Also, by the time you finish a concealed weapons permit course, you aren't just some trigger happy pedestrian.   You fully understand what you've signed up for and how badly the law will come down on you if you even think of brandishing the weapon.   You don't even touch the weapon unless you are positive you are going to kill someone.

[CCM]

Also, by the time you finish a concealed weapons permit course, you aren't just some trigger happy pedestrian.   You fully understand what you've signed up for and how badly the law will come down on you if you even think of brandishing the weapon.   You don't even touch the weapon unless you are positive you are going to kill someone.

What course!?   I live in Pennsylvania, just fill out an application, pay the fee, and you get your conceal/carry permit.   There are no courses here.  It may be different in other states, but don't assume just because someone owns a gun and has a conceal/carry that he has any idea how to handle the damn thing safely.

[CCM]

There are also a bunch of states (I believe there are 17) that honor other states conceal/carry permits.  So, my permit that I have in PA will be honored in about 16 other states.  So, there are 17 states that I can carry without ever having taken any kind of safety course...

[Vanguard]

In Florida there is a course and you must show competency with a handgun.

Regardless though, even in a state like yours, how often do you hear about someone with a concealed weapons permit doing something stupid?

I've only heard about the good outcomes here where someone prevented themselves or others from becoming a victim.

[Hoopz]

To make sure this thread stays out of PnR, let's go another route...

Is Xiaou2 registered as a lethal weapon yet?  He's got to be the baddest man in the whole damn town since he trains for "real life".

[Hoopz]

Okay, so nobody wants to reveal how damaging their tiger punch is on a real person, but why isn't there video of some karate dude making a watermelon explode?

You'll have to refer to the drawings for your answer.   

[Vanguard]

Okay, so nobody wants to reveal how damaging their tiger punch is on a real person, but why isn't there video of some karate dude making a watermelon explode?

Because Ninjas will only unleash their fajin fury on an attacker.   Watermelons are not easily provoked and rarely attack.

[northerngames]

Take Martial Arts to boost confidence, stamina, for fun, whatever.   Take a firearms class and get a concealed weapons permit if you want to defend yourself.

We don't need more people carrying guns on the streets... Cops kill enough people as it is. Don't need any paranoid trigger happy pedestrians kill off people as well.

[Xiaou2]

So in all the years of boxing and mma how come nobody does this fajin and just knock everyone out in 1 strike make their buck and go home the champ 10 second's later.

 It was not until Bruce Lee that the very concept of short range power was introduced to
the masses.  Before that, the information was "Closed Door"... meaning, only select
Chinese were taught it Privately.

 Even as Lee knew it, he never gave a step-by-step how to guide.  He merely gave some
hints here and there... and maybe two of his students learned the power version.

 Its taken nearly till now for even the Word "Fajin"  to even be decently known.   Tai Chi actually
was pretty much spread here as a meditation art...  However, Tai Chi was actually developed for
combat. Its just that most people didnt teach the combat version.
 
 Wing Chun itself, was developed to take out the older Chinese Govt.  However, the number
of soldiers were too many, and the rebellion failed. The secret society went underground, and
Wing Chun stayed pretty much a private secret for 300 yrs.

 Just because Fajin does not appear to be widly known and used, does not make it false.
Its people like yourself,  with such a strong opposition to a new concept (new to you),
that it is not believed in enough for a fighter to pursue it with effort.

 

I mean it is mma from japan brazil russia usa tailand china pretty much everywhere with some of the best real fighter's in the world and I never heard of any of them having this one hit wonder punch so where are these fajin fighter's coming from again and who do they fight for real becuase a demo of something like that just don't get it lol.

 If you consider MMA fighters to be the best... Then you pretty much are clueless to reality.
You need to drop your Fanboyism, and wake up to the real history and realities of combat.

  Closest guy to one hit wonders was tyson in his prime and I dont't recall any 3" or 6" punch's he squated down low and came up with a cross upper cut type deal and I doubt he even heard of fajin but other then him who was knocking heavy weights out in less then 30 second's or on there first blow in the majority or their real ring or street fight's?

 The uprising was a means of directionalizing the mass vector.  Tyson could barely spell his name.
He didnt learn Fajin by anyone... but he may have got the results of Fajin, merely from the way
he trained / moved.   Just as Im sure that someone also accidentally came across the technology
by the way they trained and moved.

I do respect all art forms but I am lost on where the proof is and why it is not applied to any real time fights around the world.

 The first things out of your mind and mouth, are "---smurf-poo---".   This is not a respectable
attitude... nor is it one of growth.   For me, when I started to get serious in the arts... I quickly
learned the top fighter was Bruce Lee.  And the more research I did on Lee, the more I found out
about the depths and truths of the arts... and how he was far more than what was seen in any
of the movies he made.

 Lee said it was possible, and that was enough for me to believe it enough to dump efforts into it.
And even if Lee hadnt...  I was always looking for advice and ways of improovment.  Im always
skeptical,  and I advise everyone to be...  But, I always Test something before tossing it.
(With exception to that no-touch crud... which even if it did turn out to have some tiny bit
of validity... I wouldnt waste effort into it in either direction)

 I can assure you, that if you do the research, you will find a ton of people talking about it,
and detailing it.  And, visit some local schools around... and you may be fortunate enough
to encounter it in person... even if its a non-refined somewhat weaker version of it.

I never heard in any headline's man dies becuase fighter accidently slipped him the ol 3" fajin punch and his heart exploded.

 You never heard of a persons organs rupturing in a fight?   I have.   You never heard of a person
having a heart attack?   A burst blood vessel?    People shrug the stuff off as coincidence.... and
yes, sometimes it is.  However, these things were developed for a serious purpose.  There Are
people who trained these for war/combat & protection... just as they still do today.  People who
have good Fajin, are people who dont usually make such mistakes.  Its used as a last resort,
and not for sport...  and when it is used, you usually have very good control by that time you
are ready for real action.

the way your talking glove's would not even matter in your case becuase your punch is so fast and powerfull they never have time to compress and I just don't understand where this logic is coming from.

 In all cases, I did have a older style MMA glove on when I created the KOs.  The padding
is pretty thin, and isnt high density foam. However, boxing gloves are about 4 times as thick,
and have a huge surface area.  It reallly dampens the energy transfer... just like floor mats
keep gymnast from extreme knee damage on landings.

 
 As for Melons (YUM   )  ... Sorry, but they do not act anything like human tissue does.

[Malenko]

whats the point? You can do something you never do? What good is it? Please don't reply with "its just good to know I can do it" because that's utter horsehit. If you could wipe the floor with the MMA guys you seem to like to belittle, you'd hop in the octagon and make bank. You could donate the money to a good cause and have confirmation of your technique and open a dojo (or what ever you wanna call it). I say that just in case you try to play the "I wouldn't do it for fame and money" card

Almost everyone in here wants to punch PBJ, hes gonna let you, and you decline?WTF! That right there is sufficient reason to doubt you.

Bruce Lee died 37 years ago, in almost 40 years the technique hasn't spread but you know it? Righteous! Also, he personally certified 3 instructors, so I'm pretty sure at least 3 people knew the "pure" version, and if they taught 3 each we're up to 12 and I'm sure it would have spread to more then just you and the old guy in the vids above.

I digress this topic is stupid and the more you reply the more absurd you look. At least chad can admit he couldn't load MDF in a truck.

[DillonFoulds]

*sigh* I always thought Trolls lived alone under bridges. Looks like they flock together like sheep on BYOAC.

[protokatie]

F=ma was brought up a few times, so I will drop another equation that should be used when impact force is needed F=.5mv^2 . Even tho the velocity is squared, you need to be punching damn fast to do any real damage.

[northerngames]

I said they were some of the best in the world.

have any video's of bruce in a the real ring or a street fight something beside's a demo or movie I would love to see the real bruce lee in action outside of hollywood film.

now I know he was into arts and looked up to be a bad dude but I never seen nor heard of anything special off the hollywood camera when it comes to real fighting.

do you believe he can spring jump 30ft into a tree when gaurds come too  

E=MC[]

[SavannahLion]

I got bored reading through this. Can someone just give me the Cliff Notes?

[shateredsoul]

I got bored reading through this. Can someone just give me the Cliff Notes?

lol

[protokatie]

I got bored reading through this. Can someone just give me the Cliff Notes?

Ok. Tigger is an expert at everything, and can kill someone by using his hands with what amounts to near zero force. This power of his is so great that he may never use it. Also, he invented QM as well as classical physics, but more importantly, he invented peanut butter.

[Hoopz]

George Washington Carver created peanut butter.  Before X got within 120 years and 17 feet of him though.  X's death punch of death is pretty deadly to have killed Dr Carver and allow X to steal peanut butter from him.

[CheffoJeffo]

He's got to be the baddest man in the whole damn town since he trains for "real life".

But is he badder than old King Kong ? Meaner than a junkyard dog ?

We already know that he's a jigsaw puzzle with a couple of pieces gone.

[Gorotsuki]

Don't forget,
Bruce Lee versus anything, but an aspirin and muscle relaxant combination.
Bruce Lee wins.

[patrickl]

I got bored reading through this. Can someone just give me the Cliff Notes?

I think you only need to read this quote:

Now imagine if those 2 officers were standing there in their karate pajamas and had only their 1" punch to protect them.

[Cakemeister]

I wonder who would win between Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris?

[HaRuMaN]

I wonder who would win between Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris?

They've already done that.  Bruce Lee won.

I forget which movie that was in.

EDIT:  It's in "Way of the Dragon".  

Google Link

[Malenko]

while chuck norris is 70, bruce lee is dead, so I think chuck can take him

[Gorotsuki]

Definitely,
Chuck would bore him to death
with his right wing politics.

[Xiaou2]

whats the point? You can do something you never do? What good is it?

 First off, fajin power levels can be controlled... but my point to PBJ, was that I dont intentionally
Push the limits, walking the line with a Bet.  If its a mere demo, I put enough power in there to
dizzy a person, and thats all. (nobody has asked for more) However, a true attacker would get
enough to knock them out...  or worse, if the situation called for it.

 Ive had punks start crap with me, get in my fact...etc.  At those times, I knew I had the upper
hand, and so was calm.  Had they actually attacked, they would have been put down quickly.
Had I not had fajin, and was attacked, I may have ended up with boots in my face... an
expensive hospital bill, missed work (and or job loss), possible permanent pains/damages
(eyeball loss? mobility loss?), and more.

 Just because it has not happened yet, does not mean it could never happen.
 

If you could wipe the floor with the MMA guys you seem to like to belittle, you'd hop in the octagon and make bank. You could donate the money to a good cause and have confirmation of your technique and open a dojo (or what ever you wanna call it). I say that just in case you try to play the "I wouldn't do it for fame and money" card

 Firstly, MMA fighters dont make nearly as much money as you think.  Half of what they do get
probably goes to expenses, as well as to repair their damages, and try to keep them afloat
after they are forced to retire.  I wouldnt be surprised if half these guys are under the most
seedy contracts you have ever imagined.   

 If I really wanted to make big money in fighting, Id probably have to go Underground.

 Next, I do not believe in Sport fighting.  It trains a person to react completely wrong in many cases,
for a real situation.   MMA is filled with rules which make it safer, but ruins the realities of combat.
 I also do not enjoy hurting people "on purpose" (nor do I need my Ego Boosted),
and I find it pathetic to see a grown fighter sitting on top of a guy to hit him.  That a Gutless move.

 I could spend way too much time talking about the pitfalls of sport fighting..  but Ill stop there.

 As for proving the Tech...  Its already in use and proven to those who choose to get a demo,
or develop it themselves.   Lee plastered it all over, yet for the most part, only people hit by it
became believers.  Which makes sense, because as Ive said, you need to feel it, cause you cant
See it.  There are a ton of Wing Chun artists out there, many of which can do decent fajin,
as well as some of the Taichi guys, and even JKD.   The degree of the power released, and the
shorter distances, would show just how well the Fajin was developed.  Not all artists who know
the basics of fajin, can do it in an extremely strong way.

 If and when "I" choose to display the tech in a way that Masses can understand... It will be
even more widely spread... and sport arts will be Forced to learn more advanced
hand to hand techniques in order to survive a round more for than 4 seconds.

Almost everyone in here wants to punch PBJ, hes gonna let you, and you decline?WTF! That right there is sufficient reason to doubt you.

 LOL   Its Really Tempting man,  Trust me!   >.<   But , PBJs attitude is aggressive...
which can lead to him doing something stupid... like sending some MMA guy to my door to try to
fight me for real.   And or is expecting a full power strike all at once.  I just dont do that,
because its risky. 

 PBJ may be a  Soul-less Donkey-Butt  at times,   but you should try being in the
same room as my uncle.  Makes Jim look like Barney.  (Scary) 

Bruce Lee died 37 years ago, in almost 40 years the technique hasn't spread but you know it? Righteous! Also, he personally certified 3 instructors, so I'm pretty sure at least 3 people knew the "pure" version, and if they taught 3 each we're up to 12 and I'm sure it would have spread to more then just you and the old guy in the vids above.

 Actually, one of his students released a tiny book that teaches Only that technique.
But there is a huge difference between knowing something and actually doing it.
A lot of times, people just dont think They can do it themselves.  That only a person like
Lee was capable.  And others... well, they mean well.. but mess up the details, and or do not
train hard enough or long enough.  And still others... just are not interested in learning something
that isnt taught in their beloved religion art.

I digress this topic is stupid and the more you reply the more absurd you look. At least chad can admit he couldn't load MDF in a truck.

 I dont want to brag, nor make Chad feel bad.. but I have loaded plenty of MDF without asking
questions.      heh

 Maybe thats the point, as funny as it may seem.   There are many people, when faced with a
puzzle or challenge... that will step up and take it on with everything they have got.  And there
are others... who will immediately look for past examples, help, cheats...  etc.

 For the longest time... countless masses thought the earth was flat.  A radical concept of a
spherical world was something that could get you Hung as a witch or laughed into a mental
hospital.   Even when bits of evidence were pointed out... people still stuck to their guns,
and chanted similar mindless doubtful accusatory and mocking questions, as listed here.

I wonder who would win between Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris?

 Norris and Lee sparred a bit... and Norris to this day fully admits he was no match for Lee.

 Fun Facts:  Lee used to kick a custom made 300lb heavy bag.  Hardened Artists who have
been kicked by him, said it was getting hit by a car.

 

have any video's of bruce in a the real ring or a street fight something beside's a demo or movie I would love to see the real bruce lee in action outside of hollywood film.

  The best footage of lee is from his Demo's at  "Long Beach".   The footage of him sparring in
riot-style body armor is blurry and difficult to see..  but if you have a good martial arts eye,
you can see him shut down everything with grace, good form, lightning speed, and shear ease.

 Did you know, There was actually a Chinese Newspaper that offered up 1 million dollars to
anyone who could beat Lee in a streetfight.   Many artists tried, all Failed.
One fighter even challenged him on the movie set of enter the dragon.  Such fights lasted mere
seconds.  Supposedly a few have footage of such fights.. but nobody is releasing.

 Also know this, that even in his movies... they sped up the film, so that when played back at
normal speeds, it would slow lees moves down.  They found that when filmed at regular speed,
Lee was so fast that it was a mere blur.  You couldnt see what was happening at all.

now I know he was into arts and looked up to be a bad dude but I never seen nor heard of anything special off the hollywood camera when it comes to real fighting.

 Back then, portable filming was not as common.  It was more expensive and much more
scarce.  If you want to know what Lee really was, you will have to go by accounts of people that
dealt with him, as well as the written FACTS of his abilities and feats.  Lee trained in such a way,
that would make a typical MMA fighter "quit"  in a single half day of work.  There are very few
modern fighters who train anywhere near as extreme, frequently, and as hard as Lee did.
 
 Did you know that Lee was not interested in the arts as a kid?  He didnt take up serious
interest till he was beaten to near death by a group of thugs.  After that, you couldnt stop him
from learning and training.  After getting some skills, he started to provoke people into real
fights.  Supposedly, he got into so much trouble, that he was sent to USA.

 Lee was a fighter first and foremost.  Training for Real combat situations.  His serious skills
quickly gained him attention...  which led to him doing martial arts movies.  He also has
written about 5 books on his techniques / discoveries.
 
( 'Tao' was not written by him.  Just concepts pieced together after his passing.)

do you believe he can spring jump 30ft into a tree when gaurds come too

 I never heard Lees jump height, but umm, I believe in Gravity.     and clearly know
what Wire-Fu is. 

 I do know his flying kicks were something to behold however...and hell, he kicked Kareem
in the face.. and that dude is a Tower to Lee.

 If you want to see some insane vertical jumpers... Check out Contemporary Wushu artists.
Those guys are sick acrobats.   Tony Jaa (spelling probably wrong.  Played in "Ong Bak")
has some extreme jumping skill too.  He used to jump over elephants as a kid growing up.

I said they were some of the best in the world.

 Sorry... but they are Not even close to the best.  In fact, they are a huge disgrace to
Good fighters... let alone standing side some of the Best Fighters in this world.

 A "GOOD" fighter for example... can throw a kick fast enough that it cant be caught...
accurately, and does not get off-balance during and or landing after a kick.  The
BEST fighters, would throw a kick that would not miss its target, with power to break
anything it lands on - every time its thrown.  This is only One aspect of a high level fighter.
MMA fighters are pretty much sloppy, slow, and clumsy.   They are barely good at any one
thing.  They are like wine coolers compared to fine liquor. A Hamburg compared to a high
grade cut of beef, cooked and seasoned to perfection.

 Would you say that a fast food Hamburger Tops a tender Fillet Mignon?  Would you
say that it even compares with the best Beef dishes in the World?  All that Hypnotic
TV smust have turned your brain to mush, and your belly to jelly if you say so...

[shateredsoul]

yeah they are

[northerngames]

I think you need to go back to the first few ufc & pancrase and watch some of them as there were real martial arts blackbelts in there doing real fighting on film live in front of real people.

most of the above is total BS like the 1 million dollar offer to fight him.

most MMA fighter's get paid great win or lose as more comes through the sponsor's then the company but they all make excellent pay period.

bruce never kicked kareem in the face unless he was sitting down once again show me a non hollywood video.

I also think you meant he was so fast they had to slow the video down so it could be seen but that's really funny becuase everyone in the room must be just as lighting fast and even better timing then him to react to avoid getting hit every single time.

chuck was a corny movie actor. Sure he may have been into the martial art's and looked up to as an example through his movie fame getting thime there and his name out there but that was it same thing who did he fight again for real in a ring or on the street's before hollywood.

nobody jumped over elephants lol they would be on the new's internet youtube genius book ripley's etc. that was a movie actor again guy lol.

I dunno about your hamburger compared to lee example but how about this one:

no matter how hard you polish a terd you still end up with ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---  

[AtomSmasher]

chuck was a corny movie actor. Sure he may have been into the martial art's and looked up to as an example through his movie fame getting thime there and his name out there but that was it same thing who did he fight again for real in a ring or on the street's before hollywood.

Before he started his acting career he was the Karate Middleweight champion for 6 years, broke the record for most tournaments won in a year and was named Fighter of the year by Black Belt magazine.  He became an actor after all of this occurred, not before.

[shmokes]

A Hamburg compared to a high grade cut of beef, cooked and seasoned to perfection.

You're telling me that you think a high grade cut of beef is superior to a large, beautiful German city that happens to have one of the best red light districts in the entire world? 

[northerngames]

chuck was a corny movie actor. Sure he may have been into the martial art's and looked up to as an example through his movie fame getting thime there and his name out there but that was it same thing who did he fight again for real in a ring or on the street's before hollywood.

Before he started his acting career he was the Karate Middleweight champion for 6 years, broke the record for most tournaments won in a year and was named Fighter of the year by Black Belt magazine.  He became an actor after all of this occurred, not before.

yeah he does have a real legit fighting background and I do recall him on the cover of BBM when I was little and I definalty had that backward's

I see he won a few tournments types that lee never even entered ever.

[Malenko]

Firstly, MMA fighters dont make nearly as much money as you think.  Half of what they do get
probably goes to expenses, as well as to repair their damages, and try to keep them afloat
after they are forced to retire.  I wouldnt be surprised if half these guys are under the most
seedy contracts you have ever imagined.   
 

UFC 100, which took place at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas, had a total disclosed payroll of $1,790,000.

The payroll figure does not include a $400,000 that was awarded for "fight night" bonuses that were handed out after the event. Each award winner received a record $100,000.

UFC 100, the UFC's heavily promoted and long-awaited milestone event, drew a soldout crowd estimated at 11,000 and – assuming the preliminary figures hold up – the second-largest gate in UFC history with $5.1 million in ticket sales.

A few disclaimers regarding the salaries can be found below. However, it's also worth noting that fighters such as Lesnar and St. Pierre also earn a portion of the pay-per-view revenue. In fact, Lesnar reportedly will make approximately $3 million from the fight even before the majority of his sponsorship money is tallied.

The full payouts for the event included:

Jon Fitch: $90,000 (includes $45,000 win bonus)
def. Paulo Thiago: $8,000

Brock Lesnar: $400,000 (no win bonus)
def. Frank Mir: $45,000

Georges St-Pierre: $400,000 ($200,000 win bonus)
def. Thiago Alves: $60,000

Dan Henderson: $250,00 ($150,000 win bonus)
def. Michael Bisping: $150,000

Yoshihiro Akiyama: $60,000 ($20,000 win bonus)
def. Alan Belcher: $19,000

Mark Coleman: $100,000 ($50,000 win bonus)
def. Stephan Bonnar: $25,000

Jim Miller: $22,000 ($11,000 win bonus)
def. Mac Danzig: $20,000

Jon Jones: $18,000 ($9000 win bonus)
def. Jake O'Brien: $13,000

Dong Hyun Kim: $58,000 ($29,000 win bonus)
def. T.J. Grant: $5,000

Tom Lawlor: $16,000 ($8,000 win bonus)
def. C.B. Dollway: $14,000

Shannon Gugerty: $10,000 ($5,000 win bonus)
def. Matt Grice: $7,000

Now, the usual disclaimer: The figures do not include deductions for items such as insurance, licenses and taxes. Additionally, the figures do not include money paid by sponsors, which can oftentimes be a substantial portion of a fighter's income. They also do not include any other "locker room" or special bonuses the UFC oftentimes pays.




Malenko here, if I could punch and knock out lesnar and make 3 million, yeah, Id do it.

[CCM]

Also, with the top guys in the UFC, Lesnar being one of them, they also get a percentage of the PPV money.  That's how Lesnar got up to around 3 million at UFC 100.

[Xiaou2]

bruce never kicked kareem in the face unless he was sitting down once again show me a non hollywood video.

 I swore Ive seen a version of the film where he actually lands a standing high kick
to Kareems head.  I have to check my old LaserDisc copy.  Also have to check
the "Lost Footage".   Still, Lee Does kick Kareem several times. Usually after
making him bend down a bit, by kicking / punching him in the gut.

I think you need to go back to the first few ufc & pancrase and watch some of them as there were real martial arts blackbelts in there doing real fighting on film live in front of real people.

 Ive seen that pathetic crap.  A bunch of armatures fighting under rules that
favor ground fighters.  Its bad enough the ease of getting a Blackbelt in these
modern days (no offense Saint.  Everywhere is different, and so are the times)
But people who entered were usually the kind of people who fought for points...
and or were not as skilled as they would have you believe.  A Chef does not
walk into a fast-food cooking competition... where he is limited to using
sub-standard ingredients and limitations.  Such a thing would tarnish his
reputation, and strongly reduce his chances of winning anyways.  It would not
represent him, and what he has learned,  properly at all.

 But what it really boils down to... is that you can not accurately represent an
art truthfully in a mere sport setting.  Anyone with a brain should be able to
deduce this... yet it amazes me how many it seems to elude.  I feel sad for
humanity  :'(

most of the above is total BS like the 1 million dollar offer to fight him.

 Actually, Its Not.  I have a Laserdisc documentary film that shows the actual
newspaper.  The Documentary was released by Warner Bros.,  so Id be fairly
confident in the documentary's factual content.

 The fanboys of todays era always want to believe that no fighter of the past
could equal or destroy what can be seen today.  This egotistical way of
thinking... leads to self delusion.  Its why you dont actually pick up a book
and find out the truths.  You simply dont want to know, and dont want to
believe.

 Lee was an Excellent fighter.  But, Id be willing to bet, that there
were far better fighters back several hundreds to thousands of years ago.
Back then, they had the time to devote entire lifetimes to martial development...
And, they often needed to use it on a regular basis.

I also think you meant he was so fast they had to slow the video down so it could be seen but that's really funny becuase everyone in the room must be just as lighting fast and even better timing then him to react to avoid getting hit every single time.

 No.  When a camera is Recording (Filming), it is usually at 24 frames per second.
To make Lee appear to be moving slower... They had to speed up the reels, so
that it was something like 35 frames per second.  When they played back the
film at NORMAL speed, the extra frames made the film Longer... thus Slower than
real life speed.

 Its easy to forgive a person for being ignorant of details... But its quite another,
to forgive a person who tries to correct you about a subject he has No
advanced knowledge of.   Its just Amazingly pathetic and purely infantile.

 As for the others... If you have ever seen a Lee film, you would know that
almost all the people he fights take a hit, and do not get to react.  The few
who Do react, have been trained by Lee.  Just as seen in the Norris-Lee fight,
where Norris is seen using fast wing-chun style hand traps & redirects.

 And Yes, many artists can be fast.  Especially when directed in a trained
sequence.  However, Lee, besides being naturally quick, had the martial skill to be
able to be fast under Live fighting conditions.

Sure he may have been into the martial art's and looked up to as an example through his movie fame getting thime there and his name out there but that was it same thing who did he fight again for real in a ring or on the street's before hollywood.

     Man, you really shoved your foot in your mouth!   When you dont do your homework, you FAIL.

nobody jumped over elephants lol they would be on the new's internet youtube genius book ripley's etc. that was a movie actor again guy lol.

 On Jaa's Official Website Bios:

 " As a child Panom raised elephants and each day would leap up onto the backs of two baby elephants, Flower and Leaf, and did so every day for many years; as the elephants grew so did his jumping abilities. "
 
 Ok, so maybe not completely Over them.  But fairly accurate. Anyone seeing
Jaa jump and or jump kick, can immediately know the man has trained seriously.

no matter how hard you polish a terd you still end up with ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---  

 I would have to agree.  Yes, you are a Turd.

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[Malenko]

youre replies are too verbose, which is why no one reads all that.

[northerngames]

 Ive seen that pathetic crap.  A bunch of armatures fighting under rules that
favor ground fighters.  Its bad enough the ease of getting a Blackbelt in these
modern days (no offense Saint.  Everywhere is different, and so are the times)
But people who entered were usually the kind of people who fought for points...
and or were not as skilled as they would have you believe.  A Chef does not
walk into a fast-food cooking competition... where he is limited to using
sub-standard ingredients and limitations.  Such a thing would tarnish his
reputation, and strongly reduce his chances of winning anyways.  It would not
represent him, and what he has learned,  properly at all.

you have that backwards how do you figure the ground fighter's are favored when the majority of illegal blows are on ground but are still legal blow's while standing..

your allowed more strike's standing then on the ground your knee's and elbow's are limited on the ground with rules where there still perfectly legal while standing.

that's why some of the gracie's left ufc & mma becuase they banned alot of their move's like the diggin in the oppenents kidney's with their heels while on the bottom to get the top man off or wiggle into something they can work with position wise.

they also banned the downed elbow on the ground and shot's to the back of the head however you can still do a downed elbow while standing though.
   
stand up there is no back of the head blows no biting no eye gouging and no kicking in the nuts or choking with the thumbs other then that everything goes and those same exact rules still apply to the ground fighter also but there is still alot more rules for illegal blows on the ground that are allowed while staning up.

if anything the standup fighter's have less rule's to go by a long shot.

as for the hollywood pictures that's hollywood for ya.  Who's to say just out of frame on the right is a trampoline or ledge or perhaps there was one in that actual frame but was editied & removed to make it look like he was 7 feet in the air just like when he leaped up 30ft in the tree when the gaurds come near him in enter the dragon "THE MOVIE".

I could jump on a baby elephant's back also if I had one big deal.

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[Xiaou2]

you have that backwards how do you figure the ground fighter's are favored when the majority of illegal blows are on ground but are still legal blow's while standing..

  The initial  UFC  thing was set up to favor ground fighters, and make them
Look superior.  Most standup fighters were not prepared for a ground fight...because
in reality... the ground is the WORST place you want to be in Real fight.  

 If you even survive the sharp pavement and gravel... You have to realize that
while you are messing with the guy - others may be running in with a beer
bottle to your head, or worse... a weapon.

 It also takes far more skill to remain standing unharmed in a fight, than it does
to push a person to the ground.   And being that the ground fighters knew that it
was a surprise, as well as many fighters not having the ability to disable them
properly... is just a mess.  A false victory, and an utter Disgracie.

 In fact, the typical entry method was one of extreme danger to the person
entering.  In a real fight... trying to dive in on someone could get you permanently
crippled.  And when on the ground, Half of what those guys do is Ludicrous.
The first thing I might do, is to grab the guys berries and squeeze till he pops off
me.  Yet, you watch the fighters in 69 positions unharmed... claiming that typical
traditional martial artists are crap!?!  You cant make up rules that dont apply
to real martial protection, and call yourself the ULTIMATE FIGHTER!

 Real Fighters train for Real events.  These are the men you Dont want to hit you,
and dont want to mess with.  They are the ones you hire as body guards.
Not some sterioded MMA guy who can barely handle One fighter... let alone
multiples.  Heck, they can barely throw a technique without falling down.

your allowed more strike's standing then on the ground your knee's and elbow's are limited on the ground with rules where there still perfectly legal while standing.

 Until when?  When the fighters actually learn how to fight well?!  Trust me,
if that day ever happens... more and more rules will be put in place.  

 Theoretically, IF I had decided to enter, started Knocking out every fighter
in 2 seconds... they would lose their ratings.  It wouldnt be long before the other
fighters learned Fajin to keep up... and then every fighter would be unleashing
massive damages.  They would have to make the gloves huge and super-absorbing
to limit the damages... and further degrade the combat to a kickboxing level.

 The thing is... Somehow people actually believe these guys are advancing
the science of combat!  Its unbelievable.  They are barely understanding of even
the Basics of things created thousands of years ago... and are not ever mastering
them whatsoever.  They are pretty much a disgrace to the arts...  and
frankly, they are a danger to people losing the ability to Really know how to
protect themselves.

that's why some of the gracie's left ufc & mma becuase they banned alot of their move's like the diggin in the oppenents kidney's with their heels while on the bottom to get the top man off or wiggle into something they can work with position wise.

 The gracies are pretty much egotistical lowlife dirtbags.  Its not surprising
that when their magic show was revealed, they ran for cover.

 But the mess that is mostly their fault, is now something that they cant even
tolerate.  That is Hilarious!  

stand up there is no back of the head blows no biting no eye gouging and no kicking in the nuts or choking with the thumbs other then that everything goes

 Actually, technically, there are a LOT more rules than you listed.  Small joint manipulations spring to mind.  But there is much more.  AND if there were really
good fighters in there... that list would grow even larger.  

as for the hollywood pictures that's hollywood for ya.  Who's to say just out of frame on the right is a trampoline or ledge or perhaps there was one in that actual frame but was editied & removed to make it look like he was 7 feet in the air just like when he leaped up 30ft in the tree when the gaurds come near him in enter the dragon "THE MOVIE".

 I dont recall him jumping UP 30ft.  Maybe Down 30ft.  Ill have to look it over.

 I can post videos of Shaolin and Wushu guys doing the same thing, without
trampolines.  With digging, you can find out if Lees flying kick and high kick
were real.  There were plenty of witnesses.

 Its not to say that those moves were things you should use in real combat.
In fact, they are dangerous.  However, in general, Lee was a person who wanted
to show exactly what was possible, and what he could get away with.

 Point being... Lee had not only developed extreme levels of power in his
techniques... But he also had the skills, muscles, flexibility... to do the most
extreme and acrobatic of movements.  Todays TV fighters barely can kick...
and Lee could not only kick with enough power to end a fight... but also
to do things in the pics posted.

I could jump on a baby elephant's back also if I had one big deal.

 If you had read it correctly, the elephants grew to adult height as he grew from
child to man.  Meaning, he could land a jump onto a full grown elephant.

[DillonFoulds]

no matter how hard you polish a terd you still end up with ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---

MythBusters polished dung.

[Xiaou2]

 

 

 

 

[northerngames]

I don't recall tai clench's on any guy's nuts in any martial art's tournments either.

that's like saying you grab my nuts and I can bite your cheek off type thing or poke your eye.

smalle lock's like the toe lock tank abbott got beat by recently are still allowed