Author Topic: WOW New LightGUN Info !!! Woot!!! :) (Read 408155 times)

Dr Gori · « **Reply #120 on:** January 25, 2006, 05:27:27 pm »

Wanted to add that the stands are very small, about 15-16 inches long, and thick and wide as a pack of bubble gum.

Is that a manly enough description of the dimensions?

The little stands they have to hang on the TV probably won't hold a in a typical enviroment, but I've secured my temporarily with electrical tape.

On my 32" lcd, they were no unsightly. I think if they are put into a black painted interior portion by a screen, they wouldn't hardly be noticed.

If someone asks "What are those things???" that's when you whip out the cool gun start shooting.

Dr Gori · « **Reply #121 on:** January 25, 2006, 05:29:54 pm »

From what I can tell, they are seen as a mouse. With the guncon2 driver, the gun acts like a mouse in windows, and when setting up the buttons, they registered as mouse buttons.

So, if you you mame.exe area51 -mouse

you should be set to be able to use these. You might need to recalibrate once in the game, but other than assigning buttons for coin, start, and button1, that's all I've done.

Flinkly · « **Reply #122 on:** January 25, 2006, 05:30:34 pm »

well, i was hoping to get santoro or another weller on here to join, so we could all apy him through paypal...otherwise it would make the process longer. i'm figureing that the group order is kinda dead. no one has the patience. i just hope it doesn't turn out to be a flop in the next couple days.

darthbane2k · « **Reply #123 on:** January 25, 2006, 05:35:04 pm »

Quote from: Dr Gori on January 25, 2006, 05:27:27 pm

Wanted to add that the stands are very small, about 15-16 inches long, and thick and wide as a pack of bubble gum.

Is that a manly enough description of the dimensions?

The little stands they have to hang on the TV probably won't hold a in a typical enviroment, but I've secured my temporarily with electrical tape.

On my 32" lcd, they were no unsightly. I think if they are put into a black painted interior portion by a screen, they wouldn't hardly be noticed.

If someone asks "What are those things???" that's when you whip out the cool gun start shooting.

any chance of some ppictures. the one on the website is totally insufficient

hnugz · « **Reply #124 on:** January 25, 2006, 05:40:16 pm »

im about 2 seconds away from ordering these myself. damn you all for making these seem so good. wonder how much group order would save....?

Flinkly · « **Reply #125 on:** January 25, 2006, 05:42:48 pm »

well, to get discount prices, you have to be a registered bulk play-asia guy, and then they tell you the deals.

if we had someone left who would be willing to take paypal, then we could get him to order a bunch and pass savings on to us. but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen.

darthbane2k · « **Reply #126 on:** January 25, 2006, 05:44:34 pm »

what is the length of the cord between the two led stands? can they detach from the stands?

Farmboy90 · « **Reply #127 on:** January 25, 2006, 05:45:52 pm »

For what its worth anyone can accept paypal. Just get a paypal account and turn on the option for receiving payments. It is the "email payment" option.

You will be charged a fee though for everyone who sends you money. The amount is trivial compared to the savings you would get from a bulk purchase and the shipping though.

By the way, I just sent play-asia an email asking about volume discounts and if they could upgrade my account to a reseller account. I will let you know what they say and maybe go from there.

Should I ask for a quote on say 30 guns with shipping? That should be enough for the first batch I would think. Considering they would end up costing about (with shipping and discount included) maybe $35 a piece...

Santoro · « **Reply #128 on:** January 25, 2006, 06:13:44 pm »

That's a lot of work, there'd have to a decent profit involved to make it worth it.

Quote from: Flinkly on January 25, 2006, 05:42:48 pm

well, to get discount prices, you have to be a registered bulk play-asia guy, and then they tell you the deals.

if we had someone left who would be willing to take paypal, then we could get him to order a bunch and pass savings on to us. but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen.

Level42 · « **Reply #129 on:** January 25, 2006, 06:24:41 pm »

Mmmmm, those things are designed by EMS....that rang a bell......Cha Cha Amigos for the DC ! (They are still listed on their site, http://www.hkems.com/m_main.htm the guns are indicated as "Hot selling"

).

The ChaCha's work great, better then the other set I've got by that other company Byjoung or somethng, but workmanship on the ChaCha's is terrible. Let's hope they did a better job on the guns !!!

Necro · « **Reply #130 on:** January 25, 2006, 07:01:00 pm »

Hrm...definitely interested in these if they are pretty good.

So, what good games are around that work on mame and don't require an insane setup to play (reasonably) well on? Would Operation Wolf and the like work with something like this?

darthbane2k · « **Reply #131 on:** January 25, 2006, 07:17:31 pm »

We need some MORE feedback guys?

How does it work on operation wolf?

Does it work on NES Emulator yet?

Can we have some close up pics of the stands?

etc

markrvp · « **Reply #132 on:** January 25, 2006, 07:25:24 pm »

Just ordered a pair. The race is on.

Silver · « **Reply #133 on:** January 25, 2006, 07:26:43 pm »

I think only 1 person has recieved them so far.

Unhappiliy it appears the delivery company did not attempt to deliver again today - despite me phoning them this morning and the package being listed as "in transit". It now appears to have been returned to the "warehouse" with no attempt at delivery (or if they did went to wrong place). So another days wait at least!

RandyT · « **Reply #134 on:** January 25, 2006, 07:30:21 pm »

I couldn't take it anymore and ordered a set to play with.

I'd be happy if I could just play HOTD3 on my Xbox with any decent accuracy.

Anyone know how far away from a 9 foot wide screen I'd have to be to use these? (thought of shooting life size zombies make RandyT trigger-happy lunatic.....)

A word of caution though: If you have to use that laser sight, make sure you aren't aiming it at your front window at eye-level. It'll probably only kick back about 4%, but that might still be enough to hurt you.

RandyT

Dr Gori · « **Reply #135 on:** January 25, 2006, 07:33:24 pm »

I was standing about 6 feet away, and I believe the cord was still on the ground, at least near the middle. I think the chords from the LED stands can be put about 3-4 feet away from the computer, unless you use a USB extender.

hnugz · « **Reply #136 on:** January 25, 2006, 08:11:31 pm »

Their list of working games is at http://mynewdata.tripod.com/MAME/Gamelist_eng.htm

Shows which games in mame are working with it. I think I gotta order me some now...I really like Area 51.

Dizzle · « **Reply #137 on:** January 25, 2006, 08:15:14 pm »

DrGori,

When you finally get it working with your LCD monitor, let me know how it feels playing on a monitor that size. My cab has a 19" flat panel and I'm wondering if it's too small to get any real enjoyment out of the gun.

BTW, anyone from the Phoenix area who has checked Fry's Electronics for this thing? They always seem to have a bunch of import stuff in their video game section that everyone else seems to have to order. Probably still to early....

Farmboy90 · « **Reply #138 on:** January 25, 2006, 08:19:14 pm »

I am in Phoenix and yes I have checked. About two weeks ago I did. Not only do they not carry this gun, they don't carry any light guns.

Dizzle · « **Reply #139 on:** January 25, 2006, 08:22:10 pm »

I went a few weeks ago and I counted three different light guns.. (the one near Arizona Mills) I may check again tonight on the way home just for kicks...

Farmboy90 · « **Reply #140 on:** January 25, 2006, 08:27:19 pm »

I should have qualified. I was looking only for guns that would work with mame - namely the act labs stuff. Nothing was there. They said they only had a cople things for consoles. Not interested in those.

This was the same Frys that you went to - over on Baseline/Priest.

Dizzle · « **Reply #141 on:** January 25, 2006, 08:28:58 pm »

Ok... so I probably wont bother then

I think I saw the same stuff you saw.

Necro · « **Reply #142 on:** January 25, 2006, 08:30:58 pm »

ok...only thing holding holding me back now is my lack of permanent employment. Once I get that...guns and spinner gotta be on order.

Farmboy90 · « **Reply #143 on:** January 25, 2006, 08:32:14 pm »

Quote from: Dizzle on January 25, 2006, 08:28:58 pm

Ok... so I probably wont bother then
I think I saw the same stuff you saw.

I was actually gonna go there at lunch, but never made it. Sounds like I need to get another USB hub for these guns though. So if I go in the morning I will double check on the guns for you.

JustMichael · « **Reply #144 on:** January 25, 2006, 09:24:26 pm »

Quote from: RandyT on January 25, 2006, 07:30:21 pm

I couldn't take it anymore and ordered a set to play with.

I'd be happy if I could just play HOTD3 on my Xbox with any decent accuracy.

Anyone know how far away from a 9 foot wide screen I'd have to be to use these? (thought of shooting life size zombies make RandyT trigger-happy lunatic.....)

A word of caution though: If you have to use that laser sight, make sure you aren't aiming it at your front window at eye-level. It'll probably only kick back about 4%, but that might still be enough to hurt you.

RandyT

I would think the bullets from the police shooting through your front window might be more harmful to you than the laser light.

I just wish the shipping cost of the guns was lower...

hnugz · « **Reply #145 on:** January 25, 2006, 09:30:39 pm »

the shipping is ridiculous, almost $40 for 2 guns. Hopefully someone over here will start selling them.

siropa · « **Reply #146 on:** January 25, 2006, 09:37:01 pm »

feels like a feeding frenzy in here.

just ordered my 2 guns.

JonnyBoy · « **Reply #147 on:** January 25, 2006, 10:09:15 pm »

If there is still a group order going down, I'll participate.

ErikRuud · « **Reply #148 on:** January 25, 2006, 11:04:40 pm »

OK, I managed to get some time to try out one of my guns.

I was not able to get it fully functional in Windows 2000 using the drivers and gun2mouse from EMS. I will be contacting them tomorrow.

I was able to get it working using Acorn's WinGun driver.

The gun is a nice size, larger than the newer ActLabs gun. The sliding bolt action recoil is neat, but the "Clack Clack" sound might get old after a while. For the most part the gun has a nice solid feel, but it is fairly lightweight.

The laser pointer automatically shuts off if you turn the gun away from the screen.

The LED stands come with clips to hang them from the top edge of your screen. They also have keyhole slots on the back for mounting using screws.

I tested and it is possible to mount them horizontally.

Changing your distance seems to affect the calibration. Stepping to the side, holding the gun upside down or sideways do not affect the calibration as long as the distance does not change.

Using the wingun software I was able to play Chicken Hunter using the d-pad on the gun to scroll left and right. Accuracy was good. The PC version of Virtua Squad 2 did not seem to work well with the gun at all.

Changes in resolution do throw the calibration off, but I don't know if it the gun or wingun that are at fault. I was not able to succesfully test the gun in MAME because I couldn't remember how to force a resolution.

The LED stands can be powered seperately if desired there is no need for them to be plugged into a USB port.

I post some photos tin the morning.

I'll try to do some more tesing tomorrow night.

Farmboy90 · « **Reply #149 on:** January 26, 2006, 12:45:10 am »

Hey guys,

I got play-asia.com to get my account upgraded to wholesale status. Ufortunately the price only drops by $2 per gun. However, shipping is MUCH cheaper.

I believe I could order 30 of these for $1000 (including shipping). So about $33 a piece. That gets them shipped to me. To ship them to you I would think it would cost about $5-$8 per gun to ship within the US. So it might be about $40 per gun. (Anyone know how much it costs to ship 2.5 lbs within the US?)

If you bought on your own it is about $47, so in short you all could save about $7 per gun.

Anyway, just thought I would let you know.

RandyT · « **Reply #150 on:** January 26, 2006, 01:01:00 am »

Quote from: Farmboy90 on January 26, 2006, 12:45:10 am

I got play-asia.com to get my account upgraded to wholesale status. Ufortunately the price only drops by $2 per gun. However, shipping is MUCH cheaper.

A word of caution: Be sure you know how things will be shipped when ordering a quantity of goods directly from China. If it's cheap, you may find it sitting in a customs warehouse, at the nearest entry port, waiting for your broker / freight forwarder instead of on your doorstep.

And if you don't have a customs broker, you may end up paying hundreds of dollars to get your merchandise.

Voice of experience...

RandyT

Howard_Casto · « **Reply #151 on:** January 26, 2006, 03:21:45 am »

Just saw this thread... nice to know that after nearly 7 years of me saying infared is the ONLY way to have a universal lightgun some company thought of the free advice I've been giving out. (Yes I mean you act-labs... I literally told you how to design the frikkin gun and you went with traditional technology anyway.

)

Anyway enough griping.

My question is this:

Is there a maximum screen size for the led rig? The reason I ask is I would think at projected sizes the top-left corner might be so far from the bottom-right that it might not be able to track properly.

Also to answer some people's compatability issues.....

If it emulates a mouse like the act-labs guns do then it will work on any game that those guns did. The question is, does the second player gun's buttons register as mouse button 3 and mouse button 4? That is how the act-labs guns are setup.

The reason I ask is the act-labs patch utility, troubleshooter, fixes many of the pc games people asked about. Since all it does is hook keys and send absolute mouse values, it'll work on any mouse-based gun. the only catch is the player 2 gun has to use mouse buttons 3 and 4.

Personally I will wait until I don't have to pay the price of a third gun just to get the thing shipped here.

elvis · « **Reply #152 on:** January 26, 2006, 03:31:00 am »

Quote from: Howard_Casto on January 26, 2006, 03:21:45 am

Just saw this thread... nice to know that after nearly 7 years of me saying infared is the ONLY way to have a universal lightgun some company thought of the free advice I've been giving out. (Yes I mean you act-labs... I literally told you how to design the frikkin gun and you went with traditional technology anyway. )

People have been making IR tracking guns for much longer than 7 years.

SNAAKE · « **Reply #153 on:** January 26, 2006, 03:33:50 am »

Quote from: Dr Gori on January 25, 2006, 01:40:21 pm

HOTD 3 on xbox worked great, and is very accurate. Using it on a 32" lcd screen, and with the laser on, I was shooting right where I pointed.

Now, I just have to figure out what the deal is with my PC connection. Looks like I have an afternoon of tinkering ahead of me.

The gun is very solid, and it doesn't really vibrate. It feels more like recoil to me. The part on top that slides back when you fire is probably why. So far for Xbox, I give it a 10.

I'm sure people who have done reviews before will do a much more thorough job of explaining all this.

This should with mamedox(mame for xbox) ? ? Anyone with a modded xbox please try and post result !!

DreamArcades · « **Reply #154 on:** January 26, 2006, 04:13:20 am »

I second that. Importing can be a nightmare. If you decide to order a bunch of them I'd recommend using DHL or UPS. The cost is higher, but they handle all the customs stuff for you. I've only had one small issue importing via DHL .
-Mike

Quote from: RandyT on January 26, 2006, 01:01:00 am

Quote from: Farmboy90 on January 26, 2006, 12:45:10 am
I got play-asia.com to get my account upgraded to wholesale status. Ufortunately the price only drops by $2 per gun. However, shipping is MUCH cheaper.

A word of caution: Be sure you know how things will be shipped when ordering a quantity of goods directly from China. If it's cheap, you may find it sitting in a customs warehouse, at the nearest entry port, waiting for your broker / freight forwarder instead of on your doorstep.

And if you don't have a customs broker, you may end up paying hundreds of dollars to get your merchandise.

Voice of experience...

RandyT

Jellyman_4eva · « **Reply #155 on:** January 26, 2006, 04:20:18 am »

Hi guys,

I, like a lot of other people am really interested in these... just wondering how they stack up to resolution changes...

At the mo I have 2 PC's hooked up to one multisysnc monitor, (One with a good 3D card for PC games, and the other with an Arcade VGA for mame)... so I would like to know how often calibration is going to be needed...!!

Or better still, if there is a way of going through the resolutions and calibrating each one, then telling either PC to load a certain config depending on res....

darthbane2k · « **Reply #156 on:** January 26, 2006, 05:08:15 am »

Can you guys get some pictures online of you actually holding/playing the guns. I would like to see things such as the thickness and slack of the cable etc

Gh0sty · « **Reply #157 on:** January 26, 2006, 05:51:23 am »

Hi folks,
I', new here but i ordered 2 Guns yesterday too

what i would to know is if it works not only with MAME but with
other Emulators too, like the NES Emulator ? Anyone who can test this out?
I cant wait to get the Gun hehe

cheers
Gh0sty

darthbane2k · « **Reply #158 on:** January 26, 2006, 06:21:55 am »

talk about peer group pressure!

I gave in and ordered one too.. even though hardly any of my questions/concerns about the device have been answered, Its

Minwah · « **Reply #159 on:** January 26, 2006, 06:24:07 am »

Quote from: darthbane2k on January 26, 2006, 06:21:55 am

However, I need to start considering mounting options.. anyone know where I can get a holster and extra durable cabling?

Happ controls sell holsters: http://www.happcontrols.com/amusement/optical/96075016.htm


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