Sega model 2 & Logitech G27

[TIGER8855]

I'm having an issue with my Logitech G27 when using the M2 emu. The way the wheel seems to work is that when I start windows 7 the wheel is locked up. The wheel will then unlock if you are testing buttons in the Logitech profiler or if you launch a racing game & then locks again when you exit.

With M2, the wheel stays locked when the emu is launched or a rom is loaded. It seems like the wheel needs to unlocked when a game is launched but this is not happening with M2.

Any ideas how to fix?

[Howard_Casto]

The profiler you were just in is the key.  Make a profile for Model2 and turn off the center spring.  That should do it!

[BadMouth]

Sounds like your default centering is too high or your range of motion is too low.
I can't remember what the range of motion option is called in the menu, but basically the wheel can be set to turn less than the 900 degrees it's capable of.
Sounds like it's set to nothing or the default centering is cranked all the way up.

[Howard_Casto]

Yeah there's adjustments in the model2 ini as well, that was just the simplest solution to get it unlocked. 

[TIGER8855]

Unfortunately, it is not that the center spring option being enabled as I already tried that. To be sure, I have played around with the center spring settings in the logitech profiler even more with no effect. I have turned it off globally, I have turned it off for model 2 specifically, I have turned it on and set it to 0%, 1% & 10%, I also cranked up the degrees of rotation all with no change. I have also played with the setting in the M2 .ini and still no change.

I have however come up with a work around although it's not ideal. As I said in the original post if I launch any other driving game the wheel will unlock as expected but will then lock again when I exit. If I have the wheel away from center on exit, then it will not lock. I then start M2 and the wheel stays unlocked. Not great but it's the only way until i can find a better fix. I think this also shows it's not the center spring setting as it would probably lock when launching M2 regardless of the position?

[SailorSat]

You did enable force feedback in M2emu, did you? (EnableFF=1 and possibly XInput=0)

[TIGER8855]

You did enable force feedback in M2emu, did you? (EnableFF=1 and possibly XInput=0)

Thanks that was the issue! I had enabled FF in M2 on my previous machine and forgot that the default was FF off when I loaded M2 on my new pc.

[Howard_Casto]

Yeah and just for the record... on some of the games my wheel is a bit stiff before the race actually starts (when selecting modes ect) I think this is more of a coding issue than anything because it frees up as soon as the race begins. 

[evh347]

Guys,
I just bought a brand new Logitech G27 and I'm having some issues getting it configured with Model 2 and Demul on my computer.

First of all:
-I have Windows 7 (updated with all the latest/greatest)...an i7 super machine.
-Model 2 v1.0
-Demul v.57
-Logitech Game Profiler (gaming software) v5.10.127

The problem ONLY occurs whenever I have the G27 plugged into the USB on the computer.  As soon as I unplug the G27, the emulators all revert to normal operation.  Ultimately, I'd like to be able to configure my G27 so I can use it on Model 2 games (i.e. Daytona USA).

The Logitech Game Profiler and Windows (Device Manager) sees my G27 fine.  The G27 is detected and working in Mame and PC games.

Specifically in Model 2, I can configure all the buttons within the emulator EXCEPT for the three analog axis.  The minute I go to select one of those axis (wheel, accelerator, & brake), the Model 2 emulator crashes.

Possibly related, I noticed a problem in my Demul emulator with the G27 connected.  Upon launching a game, I get "Error!  (HRESULT = 80070057) IDirectInputDevice8 CreateEffect FAILED".  Again, remove the G27 from the computer and relaunch the emulator & game and no issues.

Can anyone assist me?  Thanks.

[BadMouth]

Guys,
I just bought a brand new Logitech G27 and I'm having some issues getting it configured with Model 2 and Demul on my computer.

First of all:
-I have Windows 7 (updated with all the latest/greatest)...an i7 super machine.
-Model 2 v1.0
-Demul v.57
-Logitech Game Profiler (gaming software) v5.10.127

The problem ONLY occurs whenever I have the G27 plugged into the USB on the computer.  As soon as I unplug the G27, the emulators all revert to normal operation.  Ultimately, I'd like to be able to configure my G27 so I can use it on Model 2 games (i.e. Daytona USA).

The Logitech Game Profiler and Windows (Device Manager) sees my G27 fine.  The G27 is detected and working in Mame and PC games.

Specifically in Model 2, I can configure all the buttons within the emulator EXCEPT for the three analog axis.  The minute I go to select one of those axis (wheel, accelerator, & brake), the Model 2 emulator crashes.

Possibly related, I noticed a problem in my Demul emulator with the G27 connected.  Upon launching a game, I get "Error!  (HRESULT = 80070057) IDirectInputDevice8 CreateEffect FAILED".  Again, remove the G27 from the computer and relaunch the emulator & game and no issues.

Can anyone assist me?  Thanks.

Do you have more than one input device hooked up? (i.e. a gamepad)
Sometimes M2 doesn't like multiple devices.  Unplug the others and try to map the G27 by itself.
After you're done mapping, you can plug the other controller back in.

I haven't figured out what causes that error in Demul.  I get it using XP64, but don't recall if it was there with XP32.
I launch my Demul games using an autohotkey script that hides everything behind a loading screen and presses enter to close the error message.
It will probably be a day before I can get around to posting it.
What front-end are you going to use?

[evh347]

Do you have more than one input device hooked up? (i.e. a gamepad)
Sometimes M2 doesn't like multiple devices.  Unplug the others and try to map the G27 by itself.
After you're done mapping, you can plug the other controller back in.

I haven't figured out what causes that error in Demul.  I get it using XP64, but don't recall if it was there with XP32.
I launch my Demul games using an autohotkey script that hides everything behind a loading screen and presses enter to close the error message.
It will probably be a day before I can get around to posting it.
What front-end are you going to use?

Badmouth,
Thanks for that!  Yes, I had a Logitech Attack 3 flight stick plugged in at the same time.  I unplugged that (leaving only the G27 attached) and I was able to configure Model 2 normally.  I would've never thought that Model 2 had issues with more than one control attached simultaneously.

Still getting that error on Demul though.  At least I can get in and play/configure and the error is more of a nuisance (I guess) at this point.  Wasn't getting that error though until I installed the Logitech Profiler software.  I even did a restore and uninstalling/deleting everything associated with Logitech (including Logitech SetPoint 6.52).  Didn't feel comfortable messing with RegEdit keys so I left them alone. 

However...any tips on what how to map the G27 to the Configure Controls options in Demul?  I'm looking at Dreamcast & Arcade controls and I have no idea what to map under Arcade Joy 1 so the G27 controls map.  Can you only map the wheel and accelerator axis?

EDIT:  In other words, how do you map the wheel, accelerator, and brake in Demul?  It looks like you have to depress the button you want and then click the control button for the control you're trying to configure, but I have no idea if Digital refers to maybe the wheel...or you only have the two analog controls....and then which do you set?  Up, Down, Left, Right?

[BadMouth]

However...any tips on what how to map the G27 to the Configure Controls options in Demul?  I'm looking at Dreamcast & Arcade controls and I have no idea what to map under Arcade Joy 1 so the G27 controls map.  Can you only map the wheel and accelerator axis?

EDIT:  In other words, how do you map the wheel, accelerator, and brake in Demul?  It looks like you have to depress the button you want and then click the control button for the control you're trying to configure, but I have no idea if Digital refers to maybe the wheel...or you only have the two analog controls....and then which do you set?  Up, Down, Left, Right?

Pedals must be marked combined in Logitech Profiler for Demul.
(When you combine the pedals in Logitech profiler, they show up as halves of a single axis.
Gas is center to all the way up.  Brake is center to all the way down)

Digital refers to controls that use switches, like buttons and joysticks.
You'll only use those for start/view/shifter/coin, etc.

It's been a while since I did it, so I don't remember exactly how everything is labeled.
The wheel is mapped to analog X axis (left and right).
The gas is mapped to analog Y axis up and brake is mapped to analog Y axis down.

For Demul 5.7 these are all mapped under Player 1 controls.
In Demul 5.6, some of the analog controls were mapped under Player 3.

See the driving cab info thread stickied at the top of the driving cab sub-forum.
It's linked in my signature.

 

[evh347]

However...any tips on what how to map the G27 to the Configure Controls options in Demul?  I'm looking at Dreamcast & Arcade controls and I have no idea what to map under Arcade Joy 1 so the G27 controls map.  Can you only map the wheel and accelerator axis?

EDIT:  In other words, how do you map the wheel, accelerator, and brake in Demul?  It looks like you have to depress the button you want and then click the control button for the control you're trying to configure, but I have no idea if Digital refers to maybe the wheel...or you only have the two analog controls....and then which do you set?  Up, Down, Left, Right?

Pedals must be marked combined in Logitech Profiler for Demul.
(When you combine the pedals in Logitech profiler, they show up as halves of a single axis.
Gas is center to all the way up.  Brake is center to all the way down)

Digital refers to controls that use switches, like buttons and joysticks.
You'll only use those for start/view/shifter/coin, etc.

It's been a while since I did it, so I don't remember exactly how everything is labeled.
The wheel is mapped to analog X axis (left and right).
The gas is mapped to analog Y axis up and brake is mapped to analog Y axis down.

For Demul 5.7 these are all mapped under Player 1 controls.
In Demul 5.6, some of the analog controls were mapped under Player 3.

See the driving cab info thread stickied at the top of the driving cab sub-forum.
It's linked in my signature.

 

Badmouth,
Thanks for the replies and the help!

After about 2 hours of trial & error, I think I got Crazy Taxi properly configured in Demul .57.

1) Make sure the G27 accelerator and brake axis are "combined" via the Logitech Game Profiler (<---that was HUGE)
2) Open up Demul, select Config and click the Joy 1 button under "Arcade".
3) Set all the push buttons (including Digital) to "NONE" since Crazy Taxi didn't use anything other than brake/accelerator/wheel/shift.

To set the controls, you have to hold down the button/analog control you want and then click the button of the control you want to configure.

-Set PUSH1 to shift Drive mode (the trick is to move the shifter into the corresponding direction, then click the PUSH1 button and it will set the control correctly.  basically the configure menu remembers the last command keystroke pressed).
-Set PUSH2 to shift Reverse mode (same trick as above).

Under Analog 1:
-Set UP to my accelerator.
-Set DOWN to brake.
-Set LEFT to the wheel (the trick here is that you have to be in the motion of turning the wheel left as you click the LEFT button to configure the control).
-Set RIGHT to the the wheel (same trick as above).

Hopefully this helps someone else out!  Thanks again!

[BadMouth]

To set the controls, you have to hold down the button/analog control you want and then click the button of the control you want to configure.

Actually, you click the button of the control you want to map and then move the control, but sometimes an analog control (usually the pedals) will be registering and post first.  When this happens, sometimes adding a big dead zone in Logitech profiler before mapping helps (change it back afterward).
If that doesn't work, yeah hold down the control before clicking to map it.

Glad you got it working.