"HLSL Vector goodness Work In Progress"

[Gray_Area]

Finally.


It won't make Asteroids look original....I don't know why they took a pic of that....but color and overlay vectors should be ki-ller.

[Gray_Area]

I'm just stupefied no one has gone apeshit over this. What I've been waiting an age for.

[Paul Olson]

I am hoping to have my cabinet finished in a few weeks, so I am really looking forward to this. I just ordered a better video card so I will be ready to play. 

[Le Chuck]

This does look pretty good.  The thread is a bear to get through for reasons I won't mention. 

I haven't been following this project, what's the back story?  Is there a release timeline, will it be stand alone or is it going to be incorporated into a new MAME release?

[Jumpman64]

Man those look great.  Very cool!

[cw]

very nice...

[Gray_Area]

  The thread is a bear to get through for reasons I won't mention. 

Oh, ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, it exploded since I was there.  Arby said to krick that an ATI HD4550 wouldn't cut it. Hmmmm. With my Geforce 6800, I get good performance on my arcade multisync at 1024x768, but not above that.

[Paul Olson]

I just got a GTX 650 Ti, so I hope that should handle anything I throw at it with the HLSL in MAME.

[VanillaGorilla]

Yep, saw this in a version control branch 2 weeks ago in the check in comments, but was like, nah, couldn't possibly be working yet. This makes me sofa king happy!!

[rockyrocket]

This makes me sofa king happy!!

Yes this is a wish come true for me, had a few of them recently.

[Gray_Area]

This makes me sofa king happy!!

Hahahahah. Reminds me of funny 80s small business commercials - for example, Cal Worthington Ford.

[ark_ader]

This makes me sofa king happy!!

Hahahahah. Reminds me of funny 80s small business commercials - for example, Cal Worthington Ford.

And his dog spot. 

[Gray_Area]

Hahahahah. Reminds me of funny 80s small business commercials - for example, Cal Worthington Ford.

And his dog spot.

Oh my god......all these years I thought they were saying '---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?--- cow'.....I could never figure it. Still sounds like it, too, I have to listen real close to pick out the real words. Turns out I'm not crazy. (Well, in that regard.....) Note the list of comments.

[rockyrocket]

Hahahahah. Reminds me of funny 80s small business commercials - for example, Cal Worthington Ford.

And his dog spot.

Oh my god......all these years I thought they were saying '---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?--- cow'.....I could never figure it. Still sounds like it, too, I have to listen real close to pick out the real words. Turns out I'm not crazy. (Well, in that regard.....) Note the list of comments.

AHH, now my other fellow brits and myself say "I see" as understanding takes hold.

[BadMouth]

Wow, this thead ventured off track. 

I can't help but post this one though (CONTAINS MUCH PROFANITY)

[Gray_Area]

Whoops, I was just checking out the censor machine. ---Bad words, bad words, whatcha gonna do? Whatcha gonna do when saint censors you?--- cat gets the same treatment. Guess webware isn't that smart.

[VanillaGorilla]

...so, has anyone actually compiled and used a build of MAME that contains the new HLSL vector filter goodness? Bueller?

[Gray_Area]

...so, has anyone actually compiled and used a build of MAME that contains the new HLSL vector filter goodness? Bueller?

I haven't visited MooglyGuy's WIP page, but I expect something to be by .150, maybe .149, which will be soon.

[Le Chuck]

...so, has anyone actually compiled and used a build of MAME that contains the new HLSL vector filter goodness? Bueller?

I haven't visited MooglyGuy's WIP page, but I expect something to be by .150, maybe .149, which will be soon.

Reading through the changelog for .148 it looks like MooglyGuy has already laid some of the groundwork and just left some menus disabled.  There isn't a link to do a custom compile at this time but I'm with you, and hope that in the next couple of releases they flush out this new functionality. 

[Gray_Area]

...and hope that in the next couple of releases they flesh out this new functionality. 

[Le Chuck]

...and hope that in the next couple of releases they flesh out this new functionality. 

Indeed.

[rockyrocket]

So for all of you that have been waiting for some movement on this as much as I am...
Mame 148u5 has added some extra settings to the ini file as seen below, and I can confirm that they do indeed have an effect .
I`ve run out of time to test more so hopefully some of you can find some cool values.

# VECTOR POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
vector_time_scale         0.0
vector_time_period        0.1
vector_length_scale       0.9
vector_length_ratio       4.0

#
# BLOOM POST-PROCESSING OPTIONS
#
vector_bloom_scale        0.3
raster_bloom_scale        0.25
bloom_lvl0_weight         1.0
bloom_lvl1_weight         0.21
bloom_lvl2_weight         0.19
bloom_lvl3_weight         0.17
bloom_lvl4_weight         0.15
bloom_lvl5_weight         0.14
bloom_lvl6_weight         0.13
bloom_lvl7_weight         0.12
bloom_lvl8_weight         0.11
bloom_lvl9_weight         0.10
bloom_lvl10_weight        0.09

so increasing vector bloom and decreasing the beam width has a nice effect.

[cmoses]

Wow those screen shots look really good. I bet they look better in person.

I will definitely have to try these out.


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[Le Chuck]

Wow, looking sharp.  Gonna have to play around with this.  Glad it's finally out!

[happyfunball]

tried major havoc on this build on two different pc's and it crashed hard on both of them a minute into the game.

[Tafoid]

tried major havoc on this build on two different pc's and it crashed hard on both of them a minute into the game.

Yeah.. there are still some growth pains - Star Wars will sometimes crash when the death star blows up too (with or without HLSL active).
This is logged at MameTesters already and as I was typing this, a fix went into SVN for it.

http://mametesters.org/view.php?id=5201

[Nightbring3r]

I get a Direct3D error and it dies. Bummer.

[Tafoid]

I get a Direct3D error and it dies. Bummer.

If you are getting errors, you need to make sure whatever binary you downloaded has also the new *.fx files needed in the HLSL folder.  If not, things will not work. 

[Nightbring3r]

Built them myself, but you were right. Thanks for the tip!

[Necro]

Definitely want this on my Omega Race cab...since...well...it's an Omega Race cab.

[Gray_Area]

Yeah, long time coming, but right the ---fudgesicle--- on! The stock settings blow chunks, and I wasn't about to diddle around with all those things. Some good settings.

[Nightbring3r]

Yeah, the stock settings are pretty bad. Especially for the B&W vectors. Need more tweaking!

[VanillaGorilla]

Awesome! I have an empty cab waiting for a vector-dedicated project...

[Gray_Area]

I was wrong. Those settings posted above are stock. Don't know why they posted 'em. My problem was something else. AND the stock settings didn't produce anything with my set-up, so I changed vector_bloom_scale to .4, and it got purdy. Still had the problem, though, so apparently nothing wrong with MAME. I'm waiting for 149, to try again, though.

[epetti]

MAME .149 is released!  Haven't had a chance to try it yet, but among the release notes are:


-Added better .ini defaults for HLSL, and hooked up bloom sliders. [MooglyGuy]

Anyone give it a try?

[cmoses]

I downloaded the MAME 149 binary but all I get is "Loading Complete" then it kicks back out. I have some ROMs in the older but never get a list to choose them. I get the same thing if I run it from command line.


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[Haze]

unless you're talking about a MAMEUI issue due to bad / missing roms then I assume you've been hit by the same problem as everybody else

the official MAME 0.149 32-bit binaries are broken.

there are correct ones one my page
http://mamedev.emulab.it/haze/2013/06/11/ume-0-149-mame-mess-0-149-released/

(see the non-ume part if you don't want the full combined project)

[Tafoid]

I downloaded the MAME 149 binary but all I get is "Loading Complete" then it kicks back out. I have some ROMs in the older but never get a list to choose them. I get the same thing if I run it from command line.


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Yes. the initial binaries offered were flawed for 32-bit, unfortunately.  Everything has been updated and fixed on mamedev.org, so you can obtain working binaries now.

[happyfunball]

did they ever incorporate the timing fixes for Robotron so it played almost like it does on a real machine? I've been watching the release notes for the last few releases and don't recall seeing its inclusion.
not that it matters personally since I have a JROK multi-williams board now, but I'm curious and can't imagine why they would put off adding it, if indeed they did. or maybe I just missed it.

[Rigby]

Thanks to the bloom & glow & HLSL awesomeness, the MESS/UME vectrex emulation now looks really, really freaking authentic.  Nicely done.