Author Topic: Taito 'Jungle Hunt' SideArt Vectorising ProjectDone (Read 24381 times)

spriggy · « **Reply #40 on:** July 21, 2004, 12:28:55 pm »

No worries.

The general sideart is now complete.

Be warned, I KNOW you WILL find some mistakes in some of the curved areas as well as other areas. Your dimensions obviously helped greatly, however it is difficult, if not near impossible to give dimensions to a lot of the bezel curves and bullnose curves on this sideart. Hence I have had to trace them with warped and low quality jpegs (no ones fault).

I am not happy with some of these areas at all. I am currently revising the artwork and going to use a new plugin I am downloading, to see if it can help me tighten up those aforementioned areas.

*Updated/Modified* - (Replied to thread at the end of shift tonight...continued when I got home)

The main suspect areas will be around the large main curves towards the front of the sideart and it's connection with the lines surrounding the 'Taito' text. The 'Taito' text itself could not be traced accurately enough, so I used the closest font I could find and overlayed it as reference. Not ideal, but sufficient.

As for the rest of the sideart, it is based on your helpful dimensions and scaled dimensions and angles I squeezed out of the dodgy jpegs I had. This obviously may cause some problems.

I'm also on the back foot, as my Illustrator skills are still on a steady upward learning curve and not to the level of the more proficient users, ie Mahuti, tbombaci, Zorg to name but a few!

No excuses I suppose. Just head down and shut the frick up!

Stay Tuned.

Wade · « **Reply #41 on:** July 21, 2004, 01:02:05 pm »

Spriggy,

No problem. I figure if any lines or curves are off significantly, I can give you the info you need to correct them, and there will be no need to further check it against the original, since we aren't producing "reproduction" artwork stencils or stickers for sale or anything.

I'm just hoping my local sign shop can cut paper masks pretty cheaply. I think getting it cut in vinyl is probably going to be cost prohibitive (and it would also be less like the original).

I understand it won't be perfect. If the art on my cabinet wasn't painted over I could fairly easily scan the sides in pieces, then paste them all together in photoshop, for a perfect reproduction. But since it is painted over, the lines are only visible when looking at the game in certain light, where the "edges" of the original paint can be seen.

TTYL!
Wade

spriggy · « **Reply #42 on:** July 22, 2004, 02:38:45 am »

Wade,

The sideart is as good as I think I can get it with what I have to work with (And my skill level).

I have learnt heaps during this vector conversion and if I knew what I know now when I started the project, I probably would have done areas of the conversion differently. Pity my crystal ball was broken at the time!

I'll utilise your offer of checking the vector via overlaying a plotted sample overtop of your cabinet, before I complete the opposite side and upload them to the library.

I have a scaled AI (182kb) and unscaled EPS (3.08meg) file formats to email to you. Just tell me which one you want. If I was to give you the scaled EPS file it would be 19meg. The printing places can easily scale it in Illustrator or other software. If relevant, check the scaled AI as well before printing. Remember, this artwork started as a CAD based file. The bottom cabinet depth dimension (width, depending on how you look at the vector) is 29 1/4 inches as per your dimensions, if you want to check the scale.

I'm dubious about the accuracy in some areas. I suppose we'll find out soon enough. It doesn't help being 1000's of miles away in Australia without access to ANY of these cabinets. (Stop crying you fool!!)

Here's a pic of her in current form.

Awaiting your reply for email!
Good Luck!!

Wade · « **Reply #43 on:** July 22, 2004, 08:09:18 am »

Spriggy,

It looks great!

The AI file would be fine. I'll just use the bottom dimension to make sure it is sized correctly before we print it.

Now I just have to get to my brother's office. I have a bunch of art piling up that I've been wanting to print. Maybe I can force the issue and go by there next week (this week and weekend is out of the question).

I'm going to have to get back on the cabinet dims soon. While looking over my sketches, I noticed some important lengths were missing.

Wade

Wade · « **Reply #44 on:** August 06, 2004, 10:46:09 am »

Okay, we're going to my brother's office and printing this and a bunch of other side art next week. We'll finally see how it matches up to the original. Hopefully, very closely!

Wade

spriggy · « **Reply #45 on:** August 06, 2004, 05:20:12 pm »

To be honest, I'm not felling very confident for some reason.

Prove me wrong!!!!

Wade · « **Reply #46 on:** August 23, 2004, 11:04:13 am »

Update!

My bro is back in town and I'm picking up the artwork tonight. Test fitting this art and measure the T&F cocktail are my priorities for this evening.

Slow... but steady!

Wade

Wade · « **Reply #47 on:** August 26, 2004, 09:21:23 am »

Well spriggy, you are right, the art is off slightly. It IS good enough that if you wanted to make a stencil or get vinyl cut from it, it would work. I checked several spots so far and there are a lot of places where it is off by 1/8-1/4 inch. This is not something you would notice unless measuring it, though. Not really detectable to the common eye.

The outside dims of the cabinet appear to be right on, except there is a slight discrepancy on the inner curve at the monitor, as would be expected since I wasn't sure of a good way to measure this.

I will try to detail the worst parts so you can correct them, if you'd like. It is going to take a few hours though, and I know I won't be able to do it until this weekend at the very soonest.

Thanks a lot for your efforts so far. Like I said, it really is good enough now that you could use it if you wanted. It'd just be a shame not to make it a bit more accurate when everything is ready, all that is needed is a little more time invested.

I looked into getting vinyl cut, but it is going to be expensive. I think I am going to have my brother print it up full size and go that route. I'm trying to keep this project's costs down.

Wade

spriggy · « **Reply #48 on:** August 26, 2004, 05:11:31 pm »

Wade,

Thanks for your efforts once again. Pity about the inaccuracy, however I'm not surprised. I'm glad the outside dims are correct (except the main large curve). Your dims are the only reason I started this, so a credit to your efforts. Even with your dimensions, if one of the ends of any straight lines is off by a hair in offset, length or angle, by the time you get to the opposite end, the problem would have compounded. Plus the only JH pics/scans available to me, were rather dodgy. Also, the original cabinet artwork is 'wonky' in some areas from the factory, which makes it difficult to draw with just dimensions and not a decent scan.

However you do state, that it is pretty good and the problems are "not really detectable to the common eye."

Based on your checking, are you confident enough to say that this vector file could be used as a stencil or vinyl overlay on an original Taito cab? If the outside dims are correct as you say, then this would still be viable. The dim errors would only be noticeable if you had it next to an original. The reason I ask........ If we change one dimension on one of the lines, this change will cause a huge snowball effect. It would probably be easier to start again. Do we really want to go to this path? If I have too...yes. Do I want too? Not sure!

I know it's a big call, but I will have to trust your judgement on this, as you are my 'eyes' in relation to these issues. By Star Trek matter transporter is broken down here in Australia, so I can't zip across anytime soon!!

Thanks again. I'll await your reply.

Good Job!

Wade · « **Reply #49 on:** August 31, 2004, 12:06:46 pm »

For some reason, I never get an email when this thread gets updated like I select when posting.

It is good enough you could use it for a stencil and only someone comparing side-by-side with a discerning eye would know the difference.

I would like to give one last effort to correcting the worst parts, before calling it "finished". I probably won't get to this until this weekend though. I know, slow moving. But we *are* getting there.

Wade

spriggy · « **Reply #50 on:** August 31, 2004, 07:47:54 pm »

Wade,

No problems. If I had too, even though it would be slightly frustrating, I'd start it again from scratch, depending on how many errors there are. We can't expect it to be perfect with the methods we are using, however I would also like to get it as close as possible.

I'll wait to see your list of errors before we decide which direction to take.

Thanks

Crazy Cooter · « **Reply #51 on:** September 19, 2004, 02:47:46 am »

Quote from: spriggy on July 14, 2004, 06:01:59 am

You are most welcome to keep kicking me in the ribs as a reminder.

Heheh. I just picked up my cab today. I would love to be able to get a mask of this side logo.

spriggy · « **Reply #52 on:** September 19, 2004, 03:22:52 am »

Wade and Myself have the project currently on hold (licking our wounds

) as we both are still on other projects (both of us are actually on different 'Track & Field' cocktail projects).

Everything is still as per previous thread reply posted on: September 01, 2004, 07:47:54 AM.

Will keep updated.

zorg · « **Reply #53 on:** October 01, 2004, 07:44:01 am »

Quote from: spriggy on August 31, 2004, 07:47:54 pm

We can't expect it to be perfect with the methods we are using, however I would also like to get it as close as possible.

hey Spriggy,

maybee you can use those taito1 and taito2

to see if your side art tracing match

spriggy · « **Reply #54 on:** October 01, 2004, 09:22:08 pm »

Quote from: zorg on October 01, 2004, 07:44:01 am

Quote from: spriggy on August 31, 2004, 07:47:54 pm
We can't expect it to be perfect with the methods we are using, however I would also like to get it as close as possible.

hey Spriggy,

maybee you can use those taito1 and taito2

to see if your side art tracing match

Thanks for your input Zorg.
However, this is one of the scans I used during the Sideart development. I found that that this photo of the sideart was not taken exactly perpendicular and hence was skewed. I also found it difficult to repair the skewed areas.

Thanks anyway.

Shifty · « **Reply #55 on:** October 05, 2004, 03:14:17 pm »

Spriggy, your artwork looks fantastic. I have a Qix cabinet (same as Jungle King, but with black/grey instead of green). If you need any help let me know -- I can take dimensions, pictures, whatever you need.

See the pic here: http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=25516

Wade · « **Reply #56 on:** October 15, 2004, 10:24:37 am »

Spriggy,

Just as a heads up - I'm finishing up some house projects now and big work projects at the end of the month, and I plan to get back on the JK/JH cabinet work right after that. So hopefully I can give you some fixes on the dims.

For all your work on this, perhaps you would be interested in a free set of sideart for your cab? It wouldn't be much trouble for us to print an extra set. I'm really looking forward to getting this sideart finished and printed up, so I can get my JK cab looking nice.

TTYL,
Wade

spriggy · « **Reply #57 on:** October 15, 2004, 06:52:58 pm »

G'Day Wade,

Thanks for the offer mate, but I couldn't take artwork off you for free. You know what it's like........ you do this sort of stuff because you want to.....not because you have to!! I'm one of those idiots who likes to see everyone else happy before I look after myself...which is fricken stupid at times.

In relation to the sideart, when your ready give us a hoy!!

These last few months have been a killer for me. One of my little ones has been quite ill and the politics at work have hit me a bit. Trying to juggle my cab projects with the house renovation has been a little bit hard as well. ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---... I haven't even ordered all my parts for the T&F cocktail. I plan on doing that next week.

Enough of my sooky behaviour... Keep my updated.

Thanks for the offer again.

Later

Wade · « **Reply #58 on:** December 06, 2004, 02:22:05 pm »

Spriggy,

Send me a PM or email at wadelanham at hotmail dot com.

Wade

spriggy · « **Reply #59 on:** December 06, 2004, 09:56:47 pm »

Wade,

Done. Sorry for the 'David Copperfield Syndrome". Have dissappeared off the scene for a while due to family illness.

Hope to be back after Christmas.

Game On!

spriggy · « **Reply #60 on:** February 07, 2005, 11:11:19 am »

Damn, I forgot what this place looked like.

Still snowed under with the priority of my ill family member. On top of work, I'm finding some time to finish the house renovations, however NO TIME for my arcade cab's

and artwork projects.......yet. Will get on top of this illness yet!!!

Wade, our Taito sideart project has and will lay dorment until I win our battle at home. However, based on your previous comments ('still very usuable sideart'), albeit not 100% accurate, would it be worth uploading to the Art Library?? Feedback??

I also have a 90% finished vector trace of the DK Junior CPO. I will chuck on a thread to anyone interested in finishing it.

The battle continues......

Missing this place and arcade madness heaps...

Spriggy

Wade · « **Reply #61 on:** February 07, 2005, 11:18:37 am »

Spriggy,

Sorry to hear about the continuing problems at home. I hope things improve for you soon!

As far as the art. It would probably be worth uploading anyway. Might want to state that it isn't totally accurate. If we (or others) ever get motivated enough to make it better, it could be corrected and updated on the vector site at that time. I just keep finding so many other projects ahead in line. :/

Maybe we'll be lucky enough to find a cab with more visible artwork (mine can't be scanned because the sides are painted over - I have to look at a certain angle to see the edges of the paint) and actually scan the side of the cabinet itself. Then a super-accurate trace could be created.

Wade

spriggy · « **Reply #62 on:** March 01, 2005, 09:20:12 pm »

Well, the Taito Side Art has eventually been uploaded to the AAL. As I've previously commented (About 100 times!!), it is not 100% accurate, but usable. Please read this entire thread if you wish to know the inconsistencies and reasons behind them. $:-\$

If I ever get access to a side art scan off one of these cabs, the project will be updated to improve accurracy.

Big thanks to Wade for all his help. Thanks to zorg for help on some path problems I was having.

spriggy

Crazy Cooter · « **Reply #63 on:** March 01, 2005, 11:20:45 pm »

*runs off*

Thanks Spriggy.
I'd scan if I could, but mine is under bright red (oil-based) paint. It's a MESS when you try to sand. Hope the little 'roo is better.

Magnet_Eye · « **Reply #64 on:** March 26, 2005, 12:00:44 am »

I'm about to buy a Jungle Hunt cabinet....

What's the deal with this sideart? Has anyone used it yet? Pictures?

See my other thread for a pic of the cab I am buying:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,34163.0.html

spriggy · « **Reply #65 on:** March 26, 2005, 12:51:31 am »

Quote from: Magnet_Eye on March 26, 2005, 12:00:44 am

I'm about to buy a Jungle Hunt cabinet....

What's the deal with this sideart? Has anyone used it yet? Pictures?

See my other thread for a pic of the cab I am buying:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,34163.0.html

There's not much more to tell than what's on this thread topic.

Crazy Cooter · « **Reply #66 on:** March 26, 2005, 10:19:57 am »

You won't need to use the vector version. Your sideart is fully exposed, so you can just follow the lines when (if?) you need to touch it up. That sideart looks pretty good from the pic...

Any chance you can wheel it into Home Depot for paint codes on the way home from picking it up?

Wade · « **Reply #67 on:** March 30, 2005, 01:24:22 pm »

I would like to try these files on my cabinet, however there is only the left side. Also, as usual I've picked up more projects which I'm working on in the meantime. However, I have almost everything I need to complete the Jungle King project, so if both sides of the art were available then I might push it up further on my list. I would also need someone to rasterize it for me (Adobe Photoshop 7 messes up a line here or there, when I rasterize).

Wade

spriggy · « **Reply #68 on:** March 30, 2005, 09:17:13 pm »

Quote from: Wade on March 30, 2005, 01:24:22 pm

I would like to try these files on my cabinet, however there is only the left side.

Wade · « **Reply #69 on:** March 31, 2005, 08:42:07 am »

Spriggy,

No rush at all. I was just stating that there are a couple of barriers for why I haven't used the art yet. It obviously isn't a priority of mine or anything.

There are a couple of reasons why I would need them rasterized. My bro's office typically just scans and reprints things with the large format scanner/printer. They don't even use the PC most of the time. When they do, they pretty much just use Photoshop. So then he has the same problem I have (Photoshop 7 messes up some of the vectors). Maybe there is a patch for this, I honestly haven't even looked.

Also... to allow some room for error, I need to expand the border all the way around by 1/2 inch or so. That way, I can glue the art on the cab, and then just trim the excess art off. Since I don't have a Vector program, I would have to just do this using Photoshop. Another reason why I would need to convert to raster.

I'm full steam ahead on another restoration right now. But it will probably be done in 2-4 weeks, and perhaps I will pick this up after that. It would be nice to see a real game with the artwork applied. I think it will look pretty sharp.

Wade

spriggy · « **Reply #70 on:** March 31, 2005, 09:22:39 am »

(@work)
Wade,

I can rescale the main base layer for you in AI to allow overhang for trimming and then raster it for you. PM me with the DPI your brother want's the file @, if you can.

I'm also going to fix the 'TAITO' font on the AI file to get it closer. It's obviously incorrect (especially the 'A'). Found some better side shots of the original artwork.

cheers.

Cyberflexx · « **Reply #71 on:** June 15, 2010, 10:41:48 am »

. Edit: posted in wrong thread.. sorry >>


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Author Topic: Taito 'Jungle Hunt' SideArt Vectorising Project*Done* (Read 24381 times)

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