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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #40 on: November 23, 2003, 08:45:38 am »
Nice job Randy, I am glad I waited on buying my CP parts.

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #41 on: December 01, 2003, 02:38:36 pm »
I want the option of not having that half-bat / half-ball-top stick. The simple solution would be to offer it with this bat (it's still a bat in my mind regardless of the top) and with an original pac-style shaft and ball.

Ok, been working on this one all weekend.  I think I have a solution that will address these concerns, but it will come at a cost.  Monetary, not in performance.

So I'm really interested in some opinions here.  

Suppose you were in the market for a top of the line joystick, with the classic short steel shaft and ball top, panel-top-switchable TRUE 4 and 8 way function and integrated mounting plate.  Would it be worth $44.95 to you to have all of these things?

In order to offer this, it would take an additional investment on my part, which I don't mind making (KeyWiz money at work  ;)).  I'd just like to think that it would be to the benefit of more than 2 people and that I would have at least half a chance of breaking even :).

I understand that these would be of the most interest to the "high-end" builder and I would continue to make the current models available as well.

Thanks for the input,
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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #42 on: December 01, 2003, 02:46:59 pm »
I would order 1 for sure and perhaps 2 more for the next cabinet that I am building.

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #43 on: December 01, 2003, 03:19:31 pm »
Yeah I would probably be interested in that one too, but it would be a couple of months before I would buy however.


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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #44 on: December 01, 2003, 05:51:49 pm »
I'd be interested.  Heck, I bet you could probably sell a few to SlikStik as well.  I'd love to be able to eliminate a joystick from my control panel plans.

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #45 on: December 01, 2003, 10:31:40 pm »
you could chalk me up for one of these as well if you offered it with a standard ball top handle.

in my mind the non-standard handle is the only weak point of, what looks to be, a very nice product.

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #46 on: December 02, 2003, 12:42:38 am »
I would gladly pay an extra 10 dollars to get that authentic "Pac" look...however it isn't a "deal-breaker" for me, as I am probably going to order 2 of these sticks anyway once I'm ready to get to building.
My only concern is how it handles during Pac-Man. The look I can deal with, the color isn't THAT important...but man oh man, I better not get stuck in any corners.

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #47 on: December 02, 2003, 01:20:08 am »
I would gladly pay an extra 10 dollars to get that authentic "Pac" look...

Ok, no promises, but I AM on the the job.  Waiting for some quotes to see if I can make this happen.  I might as well mention that if I can pull this off, the new stick will be made available for sale separately to those who have already ordered an OMNI-Stik from GGG in the past.  But like I say, nothing is certain until I see some numbers.

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however it isn't a "deal-breaker" for me, as I am probably going to order 2 of these sticks anyway once I'm ready to get to building.
My only concern is how it handles during Pac-Man. The look I can deal with, the color isn't THAT important...but man oh man, I better not get stuck in any corners.

Good to hear.  And you have absolutely nothing to fear in that respect.   ;)

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #48 on: December 04, 2003, 08:53:17 am »
I would gladly pay an extra 10 dollars to get that authentic "Pac" look...

Ok, no promises, but I AM on the the job.  Waiting for some quotes to see if I can make this happen.  I might as well mention that if I can pull this off, the new stick will be made available for sale separately to those who have already ordered an OMNI-Stik from GGG in the past.  But like I say, nothing is certain until I see some numbers.

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Randy, if you do decide to run with this idea (and I sincerely hope that you do!) then may I make a few suggestions:

* Sell the handles separately. $45 for just one joystick (Omni-Stik + ball top handle) might be outside many people's financial comfort zone. However, I'm sure that many people would be prepared to buy the handles separately if they only cost $10 or so.

* Team up with the guy who until recently sold replica ball top handles on Ebay for about $10 each. His email address is n2new@aol.com.

* You will have a much bigger market if you sell generic handles that can be fitted to a wide variety of joysticks. The Suzo 500 and (as far as I am aware) all of the Industrias Lorenzo joysticks have handles with a 10mm shaft. It should be therefore possible to design a generic ball top handle with a 10mm (stainless?) steel shaft that can be fitted to all of the aforementioned joysticks. You simply have to cut a number of different grooves into the shaft so that the c-clip can be fitted at different positions depending upon which type of joystick the shaft is being fitted to.

* Make sure the shaft is height adjustable by cutting extra grooves and supplying a spacer, as Happ do with their joysticks.

* Supply the handles in at least the following colours: red, black, and blue (preferably the dark Wico blue).

If you do all of the above, then I believe you'll be on to a winner!
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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #49 on: December 05, 2003, 01:02:52 am »
This may be useful info even though I will likely not be a customer.

Had you had this product out a few months ago when I bought most my parts I would have bought a true ball-top in a second.  As it is I bought two perfect 360's and I still have to get a dedicated 4-way.  I would love to have eliminated the need for the dedicated, but I already have my perfect 360's so that's what I'll use.  It's no use to me, at this point, to get your product over, say, a galaga/ms pacman stick because I don't need the 8-way functionality on that stick.

However, even when I was in the market, I don't think I would have bought your product with the half-n-half style grip just because I think it's ugly.  That may seem like a strange, nit-picky thing to worry about with all the functionality it brings to the table, but the mere fact that we are a bunch of geeks that want to build full-size arcade cabinets is evidence enough that we are fanatics.  I guess I'm just particular.

In short, yes, I think you should produce ball-top style handles.  Most of us are American and that stick just doesn't have the nostalgic punch of a ball-top or the familiarity of a full-on bat-handle.
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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #50 on: December 05, 2003, 05:40:33 am »
Why do people insist that the current stick on it is "european". When was there ever a cabinet manufacturer from europe? I have never seen a stick with a tapered shaft in europe anywhere! Maybe it's a UK thing or something? I have to admit, I have not been there much, but when I was there they had the same US/Japanese cabinets that I saw in the rest of europe.

Heck, I'm european myself and I want a repro stick to look like the stick on the games I played. So, that's a steel shaft with a ball on top. Apparently that's "japanese style", but I don't care where it's from.

Actually, I'm hoping to find a 4 way leaf stick. I have a J-Stik now, but I don't like the clicking sound.
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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #51 on: December 05, 2003, 11:48:50 am »
All of this is not directed at Patrickl...only the parts where I'm not rambling :)

Why do people insist that the current stick on it is "european". When was there ever a cabinet manufacturer from europe?

During the "hayday" of arcades, many games were convertable.  Swap a marquee, change out the controls (or not  :P) slap in a couple of boards and start collecting more quarters.  To say that there was nothing particularly special about the cabinets these went into is an understatement.  They were very generic and pretty much used controls that were available without going half-way across the world to get them.

These cabinets were made *everywhere*

And BTW, these sticks are made in Belgium.  Were they kicked out if the EU recently? :)

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I have never seen a stick with a tapered shaft in europe anywhere! Maybe it's a UK thing or something? I have to admit, I have not been there much, but when I was there they had the same US/Japanese cabinets that I saw in the rest of europe.

Just out of curiousity, how old are you and when were you there last?  I lived in Germany from 1983 to 1987 and that was pretty much the only thing I saw.  Seeing an arcade machine that wasn't designed to be converted (or a knock-off) was a rare thing in the small arcades I frequented (and there were plenty!), probably outnumbered by a factor of 3 to 1.  

And I remember these sticks well.  After being weened on the WICO red-tops (I had one controlling my Colecovision in the home-made "cabinet" I built when I was 16, which was 22 years ago), the European sticks seemed a little strange at first.  But after a couple of games I soon learned to appreciate the shorter throw (but not too short) and very precise control they offered.  

<Fast forward about 5 years>  

My WICO Red-top (and my Amiga 1000) gets built into a newly aquired, gutted Defender cabinet.  A while after that, the WICO gives up the fight and I never bothered to fix it up.  I was bored with the limited number of games the Amiga offered anyway, so time for the basement.

<Fast forward about 15 years>  

WICO since went through some financial woes and stopped making those red-ball sticks.  The industry  focussed on producing novelties, drivers and fighters, which aren't especially well suited to the short shafts and slippery knobs of days gone past and now, pretty much all you see are the bat-shaped sticks in the arcades.  The bat-shaped sticks, by the way, are also of European descent, designed and produced in a factory in Spain.

<About 3 years ago>

Advances in PC hardware and emulation technology allow for much more than a handful of real arcade games to be accurately executed, with some actual commercial products becoming available.

So I become more interested in the virtually discarded cabinet collecting all manner of evil-crud (tm) in my basement.  Do a little research, hack some controls, buy some bat-top sticks and join the fun.  After which, much to my chagrin, I find out that whatever skillz I had as a player magically evaporated in the last 20 years.  Strongly suspecting that *I* wasn't the only thing that was decrepit in the situation, I start looking for ways to improve my setup.

<Today>

The Bat-tops are tossed, along with the keyboard/gamepad/mouse hacks, replaced by a KeyWiz and OMNI-Stiks.  I'm happy to report that the problem mentioned earlier had only a small portion to do with my "rustiness" at the controls, and much to do with the hardware I was using.

The WICO Red-balls are "officially" rare, and leaf switches are sought after by only the die-hard purists (and maybe some others who have never endured the cleaning or re-bending of contacts when problems arise).  People everywhere are building their own cabinets and playing "nostalgia era" 4-way games with 8-way Spanish joysticks with the little disc floating around on the top of the panels instead of underneath a laminated surface as was intended, all the while talking about "authenticity".  :D

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Heck, I'm european myself and I want a repro stick to look like the stick on the games I played. So, that's a steel shaft with a ball on top. Apparently that's "japanese style", but I don't care where it's from.

Actually that's "japanese style" today.  WICO made these popular sticks right from the beginning, as well as a "bat" design that looks quite different from today's sticks.  And as far as I know, WICO has always been an American company.

There are quite a few "ball-top" sticks being manufactured out there today, each having varying levels of performance/durability.  All you have to do is go into any game store and you will see one perched on a PS2 "arcade" panel.  But you probably don't want that one in your machine.  Looks are important, but not at the expense of performance (unless you built your machine primarily for display purposes ;) )  Also remember that beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and while some might not like the way they look, it doesn't appear to be a common view.  I'm already close to a re-order :)

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Actually, I'm hoping to find a 4 way leaf stick. I have a J-Stik now, but I don't like the clicking sound.

Turn up the volume ;)

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #52 on: December 05, 2003, 04:48:53 pm »
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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #53 on: December 06, 2003, 01:56:48 am »
I'd pay $45 shipped. Tops.
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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #54 on: December 06, 2003, 02:39:27 am »
I have 2 of the omnisticks and 2 of the prodigys. I like them a lot. Especially the prodigys. If I had a choice I would have ordered them with regular bat handles but I wouldn't have ordered ball tops. I would have ordered the handle they have now over a ball top.

I don't understand where this demand for balltops came from? Don't most of you guys demanding the ball top have supers, competitions and ultimates? Those are all bat sticks....
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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #55 on: December 06, 2003, 07:01:21 am »
I have 2 of the omnisticks and 2 of the prodigys. I like them a lot. Especially the prodigys. If I had a choice I would have ordered them with regular bat handles but I wouldn't have ordered ball tops. I would have ordered the handle they have now over a ball top.

I don't understand where this demand for balltops came from? Don't most of you guys demanding the ball top have supers, competitions and ultimates? Those are all bat sticks....
Eightbit, first off, I somewhat agree with you.  I would prefer the current Omni-Stik/Prodigy handle over either a ball or Bat stick.  The last true arcade game I played was a ball-stick and I remember blisters on the sides of my fingers from gripping the steel shaft.  I don't want to return to that part of the nostalgia.  (Just like I wouldn't won't to put a worn-out Pac stick on my panel so I can get stuck in the corners just like in the real arcades . . . )

But I understand the allure of the ball tops.  It comes down to the games you played growing up and re-creating some of your mis-spent youth.

For me, (and many others), this means the Pac-Man series, 1942/1943, Galaga, Galaxian, Frogger, Time-Pilot, Donkey Kong, Gyruss, Tiger-Heli, Top Gunner, Sky Shark, Robotron, Dig Dug, Gun.Smoke, Karate Champ, etc.  These were all ball-top games in the arcade's.

For the younger crowd, this will mean Tekken, Street Fighter, and Mortal Kombat, etc.  (After my time, so I can't give a longer list).  Fans of these games will prefer a bat handle stick.

Now, here's why there is so much interest in a ball handle Prodigy.

For the second group of games, these were all 8-way, all play fine on a Happ Competition, and I imagine their fans either don't care about 4-way games, or would use a dedicated ball top 4-way like the Happ Ms.Pac Reunion.

But, if you look at my group A list, there's an almost 50/50 split between 8-way and 4-way games.  But there aren't a lot of 8-way ball top options, and most people won't want a dedicated 8-way balltop and 4-way ball top on their panel, thus the popularity of an above panel switchable 4-8 way stick like the ball-top Prodigy.

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #56 on: December 06, 2003, 11:54:16 am »
I think TigerHeli is really summing it up well there. I mean I really really REALLY think it would be cool to have a Ball Top joystick just like the machines had when I was growing up.
However, the more I look at this design (the Bat Ball), the more comfortable it looks (you weren't kidding about blisters!)...almost as comfortable as a bat handle stickie but with more of a nostalgic feel...that ball really gives you something to grip when you are smacking around some poor little ghosties.
Like I said before, after the promise that I WOULDN'T get stuck in corners on Pac-Man (I swear to Blinky if I do...so help me....*grin*), I think that these sticks are the way to go. Nice hybrid shape, a little pricey, but really really worth it.
I'm still trying to figure out what color scheme I want to go with...do I make my P1 Stick Blue, and my P2 Stick Red...and then make my buttons for P1 Red and my Buttons for P2 Blue? Or do I use blue sticks for boths players, then make the buttons other colors? So many many choices.
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« Reply #57 on: December 06, 2003, 03:21:46 pm »
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« Reply #58 on: December 06, 2003, 10:19:57 pm »
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« Reply #59 on: December 07, 2003, 12:22:56 am »
I think that these sticks are the way to go. Nice hybrid shape, a little pricey, but really really worth it.
Prodigys are a little pricey but the omnistick is priced around the same as other sticks and is still easy to switch if you reach under the panel.
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« Reply #60 on: December 08, 2003, 11:17:08 pm »
...Karate Champ, etc.  These were all ball-top games in the arcade's.

FWIW, an original dedicated PvP KC had 4 ball/bats very much like the Omni-stick.  Conversions tended to have 4 of whatever was handy, usually ball top wicos.

I still haven't looked to see what brand they are (I will if anybody cares), but the sticks look very "Euro."

I did check, and there is no obvious brand on them without taking them off the CP, which I'd rather not do.

Anyway, if I were looking for a replacement set of KC sticks I'd be looking at Omni-sticks set to permanent 4 way mode.  Very original looking.

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #61 on: December 24, 2003, 07:26:41 pm »
A little sneak-peek at the middle of January (or before)........




Custom-made polished stainless-steel shaft!


So far, the ball options are:

Ball, Dark Red Shiny - 1 3/8"

Ball, Black Shiny - 1 3/8"

Ball, Bright Red Textured - 1 1/2"  -  1 3/8"  -  1 1/4"

Ball, Black Textured - 1 1/2"  -  1 3/8"  -  1 1/4"

Ball, Soft Rubber Comfort Grip - 1 3/8"

Teardrop, Black Shiny - 1 1/4"


So there you have it.  The first ball-top, 4/8-way switchable from above the panel, ready for orders in about 2-weeks.

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #62 on: December 24, 2003, 09:22:01 pm »
WOW now you are talking!  Whats the price hit gonna be?  will this style also available on the omni basic version?  if it will I think I have found my sticks!

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« Reply #63 on: December 24, 2003, 10:54:14 pm »
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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #64 on: December 24, 2003, 11:21:23 pm »
Oh man, I need more sticks like I need a hole in the head but these are so cool I must have one. Randy, You and Oscar are OUTSTANDING when it comes to listening to your customers (friends :)) around here. And on top of that both of you bust your --I'm attempting to get by the auto-censor and should be beaten after I re-read the rules-- to make the product availiable as soon a humanly possible. I can't say enough about you guys. Obviously you guys are motivated by your love of this hobby and not just the money or else you would just be pumping out run of the mill controls. Not to leave out the others Andy,Druin and Ron M for their excellent products as well. I guess what I'm trying to say is that you guys make our demanding requests become a reality and I'm sure I speak for most of us in saying THANK YOU ! ;D.
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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #65 on: December 25, 2003, 08:12:46 am »
The new "Retro" stick really looks cool! Exactly what I would want to have on my upcoming retro control panel. Love the choice of a matte balltop. I hope you will also ship to the Netherlands. If you do, I guess that will make these sticks euro sticks too then  :P


All of this is not directed at Patrickl...only the parts where I'm not rambling :)

Why do people insist that the current stick on it is "european". When was there ever a cabinet manufacturer from europe?
cool rant snipped ;)

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Guess it's just which games you play and maybe during which period even.

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For me, (and many others), this means the Pac-Man series, 1942/1943, Galaga, Galaxian, Frogger, Time-Pilot, Donkey Kong, Gyruss, Tiger-Heli, Top Gunner, Sky Shark, Robotron, Dig Dug, Gun.Smoke, Karate Champ, etc.  These were all ball-top games in the arcade's.

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #66 on: December 26, 2003, 12:52:58 pm »
See? That wasn't so hard, was it? *giggling*

Well played, Randy. :) This is very very nice. To think, I was days away from ordering a 4-way Ms. Pac/Galaga 20th anniversary stick from Happ. To THINK....

Price shipped? (and be nice... *grin* let's not get all crazy up in here). And it would be at my doorstep by when?

By the way, one other question, how accurate is the throw in 4-way mode compared to an original old-school 4-way?

Oh, and another question that I SHOULD know the answer to:

Did an original upright pac have a slick ball or a textured ball? And what size was the ball??

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #67 on: January 19, 2004, 11:10:06 am »
Bump for a great product!

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #68 on: January 19, 2004, 11:22:07 am »
I agree. I put two of these on the cab I'm working on (will post pics soon) and they are really top notch. I got one Prodigy and one regular Omni-Stik and would highly recommend them.

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #69 on: January 19, 2004, 01:48:07 pm »
I agree. I put two of these on the cab I'm working on (will post pics soon) and they are really top notch. I got one Prodigy and one regular Omni-Stik and would highly recommend them.
Thats a GREAT idea. How many 4 way games used 2 players? I have 2 omnics and 2 prodigys and was trying to decide which to put on the cabinet I'm building. I'll do one of each. If I really want to switch the secound one I'll do it from the coin door. That will give me one of each for the next cabinet as well.
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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #70 on: January 19, 2004, 02:55:33 pm »
Thats kind of what I figured, I'm sure there are a few games (seems like there was a post recently about that) that use 2 x 4 way but not enough to justify two switchable sticks.

So far its worked out really well for all the 4 way games I've played. The difference between the 8 way and 4 way for games like pacman is HUGE (as I'm sure most everyone here knows).

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #71 on: January 19, 2004, 03:17:26 pm »
So far its worked out really well for all the 4 way games I've played. The difference between the 8 way and 4 way for games like pacman is HUGE (as I'm sure most everyone here knows).
My opinion is that people that say its not that much of a difference have never actually tried a real 4 way joystick in direct comparison. They say things like "it can't make that much of a difference". I think it makes a huge difference.
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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #72 on: January 19, 2004, 05:28:45 pm »
I've got all my parts picked out, but before I place my orders I need to settle on joysticks.  Are the steel shaft joysticks close to being sold?  The above pictures are not listed on the website and I was wondering if it's gonna be any day now.

P.S.  I'll use a credit card if required, but do you accept PayPal, Randy?  Wasn't ready to order and didn't wanna create an account just to get to the next page to see the payment options.

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #73 on: January 19, 2004, 11:03:11 pm »
I've got all my parts picked out, but before I place my orders I need to settle on joysticks.  Are the steel shaft joysticks close to being sold?  The above pictures are not listed on the website and I was wondering if it's gonna be any day now.

First of all, I want to thank everyone for being so patient on this one.  I'm in constant contact with the company making the parts for me (for this and other stuff in the works).

The latest date is this coming Friday, but there may be a few days shipping time depending on where he is getting them (3rd party).  But barring any unforseen additional delays, I'm estimating availability to be either this weekend or mid next week.

I will definitely keep everyone updated.


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P.S.  I'll use a credit card if required, but do you accept PayPal, Randy?  Wasn't ready to order and didn't wanna create an account just to get to the next page to see the payment options.

At the moment we only take credit cards as payment.  Special arrangements may be made for Paypal payments in extreme circumstances and only from Paypal balances.  Payment via credit card can be made via our secure order pages at the site.

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #74 on: January 20, 2004, 03:32:23 am »
I was browseing your web site looking for the new sticks and the ball top options and i didn't see them listed anywhere.  Are they on there yet?  Thanks! :)  Look forward to seeing what i can buy heheh.

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #75 on: January 20, 2004, 07:38:06 am »
I was browseing your web site looking for the new sticks and the ball top options and i didn't see them listed anywhere.  Are they on there yet?  Thanks! :)  Look forward to seeing what i can buy heheh.

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #76 on: January 20, 2004, 11:51:12 am »
Just out of curiosity, is it possible to swap in the ball top sticks with already purchased Omni-Stiks? Will you be making them available individually on the site?

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #77 on: January 20, 2004, 12:05:08 pm »
Just out of curiosity, is it possible to swap in the ball top sticks with already purchased Omni-Stiks? Will you be making them available individually on the site?

Yes, they can be swapped. :)

The ball-tops will be made available for purchase to individuals who have bought the OMNI-Stiks from us in the past, including both the Prodigys and the Basics.  At this point in time, we don't plan to sell them "ala carte".

It's important for owners of the OMNI-Stik Basics to note that you will need a mounting plate to use the Retro replacement parts.  The shaft length was intentionally made short to provide an authentic "retro" feel, which means it won't be long enough for a "from the bottom" wood panel installation.

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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #78 on: January 20, 2004, 03:07:54 pm »
The new handles certainly look good however it's a shame that they aren't a little longer, or better still height adjustable.

You've already mentioned that it won't be possible to use these handles if you've attached your joystick to the underside of a thick wood panel. However there is a potentially bigger problem - the short height will also shorten the joystick's throw.

I'm a big fan of the standard Suzo 500 joystick partly because of its relatively short throw compared to the Happ sticks. However, I'm not sure I'd want its throw to be any shorter.
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Re:OMNI-Stik PRODIGY (TM) - New Product Announcement
« Reply #79 on: January 20, 2004, 04:58:55 pm »
The new handles certainly look good however it's a shame that they aren't a little longer, or better still height adjustable.

Due to the way these (and several other) sticks are engineered, height adjustability is not a viable option.  It costs less to make one for each model than to make the extra parts required to make it adjustable.  At least in this case.

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You've already mentioned that it won't be possible to use these handles if you've attached your joystick to the underside of a thick wood panel. However there is a potentially bigger problem - the short height will also shorten the joystick's throw.

Surely you don't think I've committed many hundreds of dollars to a project without testing for this sort of thing do you? ;)

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I'm a big fan of the standard Suzo 500 joystick partly because of its relatively short throw compared to the Happ sticks. However, I'm not sure I'd want its throw to be any shorter.

The the modified stick still has plenty of throw, probably 90% of it's "pre-retro'd" state.

I have 1 retro'd Prodigy and 1 standard Prodigy on a panel next to each other and the difference in throw between the 2 is not even perceivable.  One just looks shinier than the other :)

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