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Software Support => SK Jukebox => Topic started by: SalmonKing on November 16, 2004, 08:59:42 pm
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Introducing SK Jukebox!
I've been working on this program for a couple of months now, and have had some good comments from my friends, with whom I have shared this software. So, I thought it was about time to put the program out there for anyone who wants it.
You can get it from here :
[romsite link redacted]
It's worth playing around with the all the options to find a mix that works for you.
Feel free to post any comments / suggestions in this tread!
Cheers,
SK.
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Not true! This is NOT just another Jukebox program is is feature packed and runs great on my PC. I don't bother using WinAmp or WMP any more. Hardened Mamers are switching to this prog and it is one not to be missed.. Pass it over and it will be your loss.
I especialy like the easy setup and playlist options.
Give this one a try you won't regret it..
I now have a dedicated SK Jukebox setup in my front room.. Just got to figure out how to get my guests to put cash in to run it ;)
Nice one SK..
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I totally agree with Cockney_Geezer, this is a very nice JB software! Now on to some comments:
1. On the album full screen, when I select a song by double-clicking, the album changes to the next or previous album on the list. (e.g. for the album 184, when i double-click the song 02, the album changes to album 185 or 183). ???
2. When I try to remove from the queue list the song is playing, the software freezes.
3. On the song title screen, the first two characters of the song title don't always appear.
4. Try to match the appearance of the option screens (Queue list, find, ect...) with the jukebox main screen. (too windowy for my taste ;) )
And one question: Will you support the WMA format?
BTW, I' m using WINXP PRO
Keep up the good work!!! ;D ;D ;D
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Looks very sharp! We're getting quite a jukebox family here at BYOAC, aren't we?
--Chris
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3 new difficent jukebox software in the while. Many people (like Me) got the same idea and develop thier own jukeboks.
This is just great, keep op the working.
Maybe, we should create a new list for all arcade style jukeboxes in a new tread?
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Sounds good to me ..... lets list the ones which are FREE only ;D
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Sounds good to me ..... lets list the ones which are FREE only ;D
Well, maybe list the free ones first... :)
What we really need is to go through them all and make a big features matrix that shows what they do and don't do, especially in regards to cabinets. For example, remappable keys, remappable ESC key, gamepad input support (for those with hacked gamepads), support Windows shutdown request (for when the power button is hit while the jukebox is running), multiple resolution support, rotation support, etc. Plus, of course, the obvious jukebox/media player features like accepting credits, playlists, file format support, visualizations, etc. (Of course, that'll probably spur us back to the compilers to fill some of those checkboxes in... :) )
--Chris
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I totally agree with Cockney_Geezer, this is a very nice JB software! Now on to some comments:
1. On the album full screen, when I select a song by double-clicking, the album changes to the next or previous album on the list. (e.g. for the album 184, when i double-click the song 02, the album changes to album 185 or 183). ???
2. When I try to remove from the queue list the song is playing, the software freezes.
3. On the song title screen, the first two characters of the song title don't always appear.
4. Try to match the appearance of the option screens (Queue list, find, ect...) with the jukebox main screen. (too windowy for my taste ;) )
And one question: Will you support the WMA format?
BTW, I' m using WINXP PRO
Keep up the good work!!! ;D ;D ;D
Thanks for the feedback! It's much appreciated.
Now, some resonses :
1. Yes, I can reproduce this, but I'm still to figure out WHY it's happening! ??? I'll find it, though.....
2. Ah, that looks like a remnant of some code that didn't change when I added key remapping recently. That's fixed! Keep an eye out for 1.8.1! ;D
3. The song titles are all read from the file name, so make sure they follow the format you have selected in the options screen. If there are characters missing, chances are there is no 2 digit track number at the start of the file name.
4. I figured that the main screen is the interface, but the setup screens are the 'back end' of sorts. I can change that, of course..... ;)
As for WMA, unfortunatly, it's out of the question for now. The original program was built around WMP 8, then rebuilt again around WMP 9 (8 had some serious flaws). Now, I am using a different engine for the MP3 playing, but MP3 is all it does. I would have liked to keep the WMA functionality, but the pro's of the new system far outweight the con's, IMO.
Again, thanks for the feedback!
SK.
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Well, maybe list the free ones first... :)
What we really need is to go through them all and make a big features matrix that shows what they do and don't do, especially in regards to cabinets. For example, remappable keys, remappable ESC key, gamepad input support (for those with hacked gamepads), support Windows shutdown request (for when the power button is hit while the jukebox is running), multiple resolution support, rotation support, etc. Plus, of course, the obvious jukebox/media player features like accepting credits, playlists, file format support, visualizations, etc. (Of course, that'll probably spur us back to the compilers to fill some of those checkboxes in... :) )
--Chris
heh, you'll give all us jukebox software writers breakdowns! :o
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1. On the album full screen, when I select a song by double-clicking, the album changes to the next or previous album on the list. (e.g. for the album 184, when i double-click the song 02, the album changes to album 185 or 183). ???
2. When I try to remove from the queue list the song is playing, the software freezes.
OK, these 2 are now fixed. Version 1.8.1 now available!! :D
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Great job on this!!! It works and looks great.
I only have 2 suggestions:
first, can the back and minimize be seperated into 2 keys?
-- in a dedicated jukebox you don't want the user to
have the ability to exit to windows
second, can the art search be changed to find the first .jpg
(or possibly .bmp) in the directory?
Thanks and keep up the good work!
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Great job on this!!! It works and looks great.
I only have 2 suggestions:
first, can the back and minimize be seperated into 2 keys?
-- in a dedicated jukebox you don't want the user to
have the ability to exit to windows
second, can the art search be changed to find the first .jpg
(or possibly .bmp) in the directory?
Thanks and keep up the good work!
heh...both of these changes took all of 5 minutes, I just can't access my site account to update it with the new version! :-\
Here's the new list of files it will look for before moving up a level / giving up :
folder.jpg
folder.bmp
*front*.jpg
*front*.bmp
* f.jpg
* f.bmp
cover.jpg
cover.bmp
*.jpg
*.bmp
There will be a new version up there in the next day or 2, whenever I can remember the password I setup...... :'( ;D
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OK, let's try this: :)
1. Down Left is the song code list. What about instead of the code only, the whole song title could appear e.g:
1. The Troooper
2. The Fight of Icarus
3. ect...
Or it could switch from the current view to the list?
2. In the spectrum analyzer / album art section, what about adding "Next: Next song Title"?
3. What about being able to change the font size and the font type? The font size is for touchscreens, the current font is too small for a finder selection. The font type is for different languages e.g. greek. The current font doesn't support international characters (ok, greek characters ;) , I cannot verify other character sets) .
4. Maybe background support? ;D
5. One last thing: It would be nice if we could intervene in the song timeline bar.
Thanks SK.
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OK, let's try this: :)
1. Down Left is the song code list. What about instead of the code only, the whole song title could appear e.g:
1. The Troooper
2. The Fight of Icarus
3. ect...
Or it could switch from the current view to the list?
2. In the spectrum analyzer / album art section, what about adding "Next: Next song Title"?
3. What about being able to change the font size and the font type? The font size is for touchscreens, the current font is too small for a finder selection. The font type is for different languages e.g. greek. The current font doesn't support international characters (ok, greek characters ;) , I cannot verify other character sets) .
4. Maybe background support? ;D
5. One last thing: It would be nice if we could intervene in the song timeline bar.
Thanks SK.
1 & 5. I might put in an option for these
2. Hmmm...a little squeezy, but perhaps I could find a way... :-\
3 & 4. As you can see in the WIP section of the readme.txt, font / color customization is on the list, but not currently a priority (i.e. it's not going to be fun to do at all!) ;)
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May the force be with you! ;) ;D
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Sounds good to me ..... lets list the ones which are FREE only
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btw, I LOVE your jukebox program! GREAT start!
I have a few comments.
Have you considered making it skinable?
1) works GREAT at 1024x768... but my touch screen monitor can only do 640x480 (and almost 800x600). It almost works.. but needs a few changes. Most are obvious if you try.
a) The fonts on the songs themself don't scale right. Would be GREAT if this was configurable.
b) I would love to see the ability to remove the scroller in 4 albums mode. If you want to see the rest, you pull up the 1 album view and makes it look non-windows all in one.
c) The percent view doesn't scale at all.
2) Touchscreen... Almost works... I would love to see good touchscreen ability. I don't know if its something you would be using at home in the future, but it shouldn't be that hard (but you would have to say so). What I noticed was this. Not all controls have a click. Can't undo a selection, Volume, ect. Anyway, its pretty easy to check by running it without a keyboard and just a mouse for a few minutes and youll see.
I wasn't expecting to be so impressed! GREAT JOB!
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btw, I LOVE your jukebox program! GREAT start!
I have a few comments.
Have you considered making it skinable?
1) works GREAT at 1024x768... but my touch screen monitor can only do 640x480 (and almost 800x600). It almost works.. but needs a few changes. Most are obvious if you try.
a) The fonts on the songs themself don't scale right. Would be GREAT if this was configurable.
b) I would love to see the ability to remove the scroller in 4 albums mode. If you want to see the rest, you pull up the 1 album view and makes it look non-windows all in one.
c) The percent view doesn't scale at all.
2) Touchscreen... Almost works... I would love to see good touchscreen ability. I don't know if its something you would be using at home in the future, but it shouldn't be that hard (but you would have to say so). What I noticed was this. Not all controls have a click. Can't undo a selection, Volume, ect. Anyway, its pretty easy to check by running it without a keyboard and just a mouse for a few minutes and youll see.
I wasn't expecting to be so impressed! GREAT JOB!
Thanks for the feedback!!
What I was thinking of doing for lower resolutions is to have just the 2 albums displaying side-by-side, but that's a HECK of alot of work.
1a) Yes, this is something I will be working towards in the near-ish future. I was hoping to have had more time to implement some other features, but have been waaaaay too busy over the last week or so.
1b) I'll see what I can do about that ;)
1c) Not sure what you mean by 'percent view'? Do you mean the red progress bar that fills white as the song progresses?
2) I did start working on the Keypad, which appears in the bottom right. Ideally, it would have a couple more controls for volume, then be able to click / touch the song in the queue to remove it.
SK.
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Looks pretty good.
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Salmonking,
Awesome, awesome application! I was up for hours last night trying to find album art ! I'm still discovering all the things that you've thought of (like 00 All Tracks.....) that make this program super! I
A question, though....
I use the format "01 Songname" as the filename and ID3 tag track name. I have the option set correctly for the jukebox to know that, but the tracks don't show up in the correct order. I do NOT use the track field of the ID3 tag.
The order is always the same when I reload, but isn't alphabetical, by size, or by date created. Any idea what does set the track order that's shown on the screen?
Brian
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Regarding my earlier post about my song order being wrong using SK Jukebox, I've discovered that is only true on compilation albums. The album's song list apparently is sorted by Artist when you have various entries in the artist field of the ID3 tag. It just so happens that my first lp is a compilation Christmas album, so it was obvious. Single artist album tracks are shown in the order expected from my track number 'xx songname' where xx = 2 digit tracknumber.
Winamp does the same thing when you add that same album's directory.
It does seem that it would be better if compilation albums track order matched the track order users desired. Would you consider changing that? Or adding it to your '0%' list? ;)
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I spoke too soon on the compilation album sort order. It's not exactly in Artist Name order, either!
I now think that the tracks in SK Jukebox are showing in 'date created' order. Here's a partial listing of an lp where the songs are not in the proper order. I'm listing the 'date created' and the 'date modified' properties of the files, in addition to the artist and songname (same as filename.mp3)
01 Star Carol Anna Maria Alberghetti - 06 Star Carol
Created 10:23:38 AM
Modified 11:36:44 AM
02 It Came Upon A Midnight Clear Andre Kostelanetz - 02 It Came Upon A Midnight Cle
Created 10:25:16 AM
Modified 11:35:18 AM
03 Caroling, Caroling Anna Maria Alberghetti - 03 Caroling, Caroling
Created 10:26:35 AM
Modified 11:35:36 AM
04 Jolly Old St Nicholas Maurice Chevallier - 04 Jolly Old St Nicholas
Created 10:27:46 AM
Modified 11:35:50 AM
05 Little Drummer Boy Philadelphia Orchestra - 05 Little Drummer Boy
Created 10:29:21 AM
Modified 11:36:32 AM
06 O Holy Night Andy Williams - 01 O Holy Night
Created 10:31:04 AM
Modified 11:35:02 AM
07 We Three Kings Of Orient Ar Philadelphia Ordchestra - 07 We Three Kings Of Orient Ar
Created 10:33:45 AM
Modified 11:36:32 AM
...etc....too much to type right now.
I'm a little confused by the behavior. I do batch conversions of .wav files to .mp3 files after I record an album. Most of my album's appear to have the correct track order. But some, like this one, do not.
Brian
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Ok, this is *THE* jukebox I was looking for. Great stuff!
Only I've one question, is it possible to make the keysettings-config in the ini-file a bit 'user-friendly'? I want to change some settings to mame-default settings (to use with my I-pac) but those numbers (like KeySet1=49) are Chinese to me :P
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Ok, this is *THE* jukebox I was looking for. Great stuff!
Only I've one question, is it possible to make the keysettings-config in the ini-file a bit 'user-friendly'? I want to change some settings to mame-default settings (to use with my I-pac) but those numbers (like KeySet1=49) are Chinese to me :P
um....did you try hitting O to bring up the options screen? ;) :P
As it says in the readme.txt file :
N.B. The addition of the Options screen means this section obselete (meaning the section describing the .ini file), but you can still edit the .ini manually, if you wish
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Salmonking,
Awesome, awesome application! I was up for hours last night trying to find album art ! I'm still discovering all the things that you've thought of (like 00 All Tracks.....) that make this program super! I
A question, though....
I use the format "01 Songname" as the filename and ID3 tag track name. I have the option set correctly for the jukebox to know that, but the tracks don't show up in the correct order. I do NOT use the track field of the ID3 tag.
The order is always the same when I reload, but isn't alphabetical, by size, or by date created. Any idea what does set the track order that's shown on the screen?
Brian
What OS are you using? I use Windows XP, but I have a feeling that FAT32 does not find the files in the same order as in NTFS. In XP, if you have them named as 'xx Track Name', that's the order in which they come up. In FAT32, the files come up in all sorts of order, IIRC.
It does seem that it would be better if compilation albums track order matched the track order users desired. Would you consider changing that? Or adding it to your '0%' list? ;)
I do not use tags, and don't plan on adding it. ;)
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great work so far.
if you are still working on the keypad, any chance of making it customizable/resizable? i want to use a touchscreen but the keypad is way too small.
hmmmm...not a hell of alot of room for it, as you can see. I can't really think of a nice way to make it bigger, unless I take alot more horizontal room away from the section directly to the left of it, which I don't really want to do.
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BTW, forgot to mention, an update is now available at these 3 places :
[romsite link redacted]
http://salmonking.emuchrist.org/ (http://salmonking.emuchrist.org/)
http://www.mameworld.net/skjukebox/ (http://www.mameworld.net/skjukebox/)
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Salmonking,
What OS are you using? I use Windows XP, but I have a feeling that FAT32 does not find the files in the same order as in NTFS. In XP, if you have them named as 'xx Track Name', that's the order in which they come up. In FAT32, the files come up in all sorts of order, IIRC.
I'm sure that's what's causing the occasional scrambled track order. I use WindowsME on the PC that I use for converting my LP's to .mp3's.
I'm fine now that I understand the issues and I have learned some tricks from the WinAMP forums about how to best fix individual directories. As I'm adding album covers to each directory, I'm having a chance to look at every one I've converted and can deal with it.
Still, if you do have a way to fix this through yet another option (what would that make...89 options?) like 'display album tracks in alphabetical order' it might be worth doing.
Thanks again. It's a great piece of work.
Brian
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hmmmm...not a hell of alot of room for it, as you can see.
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hmmmm...not a hell of alot of room for it, as you can see. I can't really think of a nice way to make it bigger, unless I take alot more horizontal room away from the section directly to the left of it, which I don't really want to do.
i was thinking maybe something along the lines of moving the left/right tray arrows to the bottom middle. then move the bs and enter buttons to where the arrows currently are. this would allow for a 25% increase in the button height. then maybe the ability to have volume up down arrows to the left of the keypad. this would eat up some of the current track section but not a whole lot. maybe even have it so you could hide them if you would rather have the full current track section. there is also some additional space along the bottom that could have other customizable buttons (not sure how feasible this would be from a programming perspective, just wishful thinking). i've attached a pic to help explain what i am thinking.
anyway, just a thought that would help out the touchscreen users.
thanks again for the great work
OK, that's not a bad idea. I'll have a play! Thanks for the explaination. ;D
SK.
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I'm sure that's what's causing the occasional scrambled track order. I use WindowsME on the PC that I use for converting my LP's to .mp3's.
I'm fine now that I understand the issues and I have learned some tricks from the WinAMP forums about how to best fix individual directories. As I'm adding album covers to each directory, I'm having a chance to look at every one I've converted and can deal with it.
Still, if you do have a way to fix this through yet another option (what would that make...89 options?) like 'display album tracks in alphabetical order' it might be worth doing.
Thanks again. It's a great piece of work.
Brian
I'll just add it in as a standard. As I said, it's something I didn't think about, as XP just does it right. Won't need an option for it, I'll just add it in after I've sorted the albums, to sort the tracks by alpha order. It won't change anything, really, it'll just fix it for anyone who uses ME or 98.
SK.
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Thank You!!! This is exactly what I have been looking for. I have been looking for an app for my touch screen jukebox for a while.
I do have a couple of requests though. First I would like to say that this is so far the best jukebox from a technical standpoint that seems like it will work in my machine.
Now for the requests.
I am using a touch screen only for input and I have over one thousand albums. These two things are causing me some problems with this program.
First the paging buttons. Is there any way you could set them to automatically repeat. So that you can multi-page by just clicking on them and holding. It is difficult to page through a large list of albums if you have to tap the screen for each page.
Second is the size of the text in the track selection area. Even if I set the album to "zoom in" when clicked, the text is still too small and invariably I will ocasionally click on the wrong track.
Something else that I have noticed is even when I have set the "Automatically Accept Song Selections" I still have to click on enter to select the songs. This may be because with the touch screen I am only clicking once. If this is the case would it be possible to add a "Touch Screen" Option that would allow a selection with a single click?
Again I would like to thank you for your time and effort in creating this program. I am looking forward to seeing where you take it and what additional features you add in the future.
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I am using a touch screen only for input and I have over one thousand albums. These two things are causing me some problems with this program.
First the paging buttons. Is there any way you could set them to automatically repeat. So that you can multi-page by just clicking on them and holding. It is difficult to page through a large list of albums if you have to tap the screen for each page.
Second is the size of the text in the track selection area. Even if I set the album to "zoom in" when clicked, the text is still too small and invariably I will occasionally click on the wrong track.
Random24, just a couple of observations.....
You can easily jump to any album number using the keypad. Typing '100' for example immediately would open album 100. If you hit the ENTER key at that point, the display goes back to 4 album mode. So it seems to me that if SalmonKing does find a way to increase the keypad size or pop up a larger keypad as needed, changes to that one device should give touchscreen users the ability to navigate pretty easily.
I'm impressed by the visual appeal of the cd/album covers and the layout. I think he did a fantastic job on the proportions, fonts, etc.....and so I hope the layout stays fairly close to the way it is now. But someday I may own a touchscreen......
Brian
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Thank You!!! This is exactly what I have been looking for. I have been looking for an app for my touch screen jukebox for a while.
I do have a couple of requests though. First I would like to say that this is so far the best jukebox from a technical standpoint that seems like it will work in my machine.
Now for the requests.
I am using a touch screen only for input and I have over one thousand albums. These two things are causing me some problems with this program.
First the paging buttons. Is there any way you could set them to automatically repeat. So that you can multi-page by just clicking on them and holding. It is difficult to page through a large list of albums if you have to tap the screen for each page.
Second is the size of the text in the track selection area. Even if I set the album to "zoom in" when clicked, the text is still too small and invariably I will ocasionally click on the wrong track.
Something else that I have noticed is even when I have set the "Automatically Accept Song Selections" I still have to click on enter to select the songs. This may be because with the touch screen I am only clicking once. If this is the case would it be possible to add a "Touch Screen" Option that would allow a selection with a single click?
Again I would like to thank you for your time and effort in creating this program. I am looking forward to seeing where you take it and what additional features you add in the future.
OK, some responses! :)
First, I was going to look at built-in key repeating, as when used with an IPac, there is none. As such, you have to click left / right every time you need to move. I'll include the left / right buttons on the keypad in that too, along with the volume up / down & backspace buttons on the keypad.
Font / Color customization is on the go! I've done alot of work on it already, I just need to finish it off before I release it. Once that's done, you will be able to up the font size & have more room to press!
The "Auto Accept" is a little tricky, as the 'Mouse Support' (which you are using in the touch-screen, obviously) will select the first song in the list when it goes to full view mode. Or, it will select the song that was clicked in the list. N.B. I'm talking about selecting in the list, not adding to the queue. As such, your suggestion of a 'Touch Screen' option would simply automatically select the song when clicked on in full view, EXCEPT when first bringing up the full view. Don't worry if you don't understand what I've said, I basically wrote it out as I was thinking about it ;)
So, Font / Color customization continues, auto repeating is back on the list (thanks for reminding me! ;)) and a Touch Screen option will be added. ;D
SK.
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GO SALMON, GO SALMON, GO (...up the stream) !!! ;D ;D ;D
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I really like this program. This would definately replace VMJ for me if you would add a few features. Would you consider any of these?
1) skin-able. I love how fluid your animations are and I like the layout. But it does look a little plain. I would love to make some graphics for this program.
2). Dual -Head Support. I have built a dedicated Juke with 2 monitors around VMJ. Is there any chance your program could have dual monitor support?
3. Video Support. Any chance of playing music video's (mpgs) as well as mp3's?
4.) Hide the keypad. For us dedicated cabinet users, there is no need for the number keypad to be shown on the screen. Could we have the option to hide that? This might fall under the first one. Custom skins could hide this.
It seems now that I've read my requests, it seems like I'm asking for basically VMJ written by you. Well, it seems you have the programming chops and the bugs in VMJ have not been quashed in many months.
This program is a great little app. And it just plain works. Thanks for the development work you have given to the group here. If I use this program, I would definately use your donation link!
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I really like this program. This would definately replace VMJ for me if you would add a few features. Would you consider any of these?
1) skin-able. I love how fluid your animations are and I like the layout. But it does look a little plain. I would love to make some graphics for this program.
2). Dual -Head Support. I have built a dedicated Juke with 2 monitors around VMJ. Is there any chance your program could have dual monitor support?
3. Video Support. Any chance of playing music video's (mpgs) as well as mp3's?
4.) Hide the keypad. For us dedicated cabinet users, there is no need for the number keypad to be shown on the screen. Could we have the option to hide that? This might fall under the first one. Custom skins could hide this.
It seems now that I've read my requests, it seems like I'm asking for basically VMJ written by you. Well, it seems you have the programming chops and the bugs in VMJ have not been quashed in many months.
This program is a great little app. And it just plain works. Thanks for the development work you have given to the group here. If I use this program, I would definately use your donation link!
1) Well, if someone comes up with a good enough starting point, I guess I could look into it. It's not something I have thought about, really, as I wanted to keep the program as simple as possible. However, at the same time I like to give the flexibilty to allow the user to feel as if they have the 'perfect' setup.
2 & 3) Unfortunatly, I don't see either of these being added into the program. It's not really the direction I want to take the program.
4) There is already an option in the Options screen to hide the keypad (hit O to see all the options!). ;)
SK.
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Hi,
Looks good so far.
I can't test it just at the moment, but could you tell me if it supports streaming files?
That is - if I have a mapped network drive with mp3 files on it, will it start playing the file as it comes in, or will it load the whole file locally first?
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Hi,
Looks good so far.
I can't test it just at the moment, but could you tell me if it supports streaming files?
That is - if I have a mapped network drive with mp3 files on it, will it start playing the file as it comes in, or will it load the whole file locally first?
hmmmm....good question!
To be honest, I have no idea. The loading of the file is done by the MP3 component. That being said, I have tested playing over a network, and didn't notice much drop in speed. It's either 'streaming', or the delay is bearly noticable.
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Thanks - I will try it out in a day or two when I get a chance. Over a local LAN I don't think you notice without very large files.
I'm specifically interested if it will play over low-bandwidth networks - ie wireless. I have this issue with WinCab - it has to load the whole mp3 file first, so has a 10-30sec delay between each song over wireless, and I have some long sets - ie 1hour+ mp3s so need to have streaming support.
Thanks
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4.) Hide the keypad. For us dedicated cabinet users, there is no need for the number keypad to be shown on the screen. Could we have the option to hide that? This might fall under the first one. Custom skins could hide this.
Yep, I'm an un-observant fool :). I was so excited by your app I missed this option. I played with it a bunch tonight and really like it. Unfortunately, the lack of dual monitor support is a killer for me. I respect your " not really the direction I wanted to take the program". If you ever reconsider please post on the board.
Again thanks for the great app and thanks for considering my requests.
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As for number 4.
I think you will find 2 groups. One which will use touch screen and one that will use a keyboard. I don't think you will find many that will use both (or want too... if they have a joystick and a trackball... they will probably want to only use one or the other).
When using those pieces... use a mouse only or a keyboard only and make sure you can do everything you would want / expect...
I really like this program.
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When using those pieces... use a mouse only or a keyboard only and make sure you can do everything you would want / expect...
Actually I would like to add a bit to your suggestion. Anyone developing for a touch screen that does not have one should remember when you test with a mouse. JUST USE THE LEFT CLICK BUTTON. Also keep in mind that double clicking is not natural when using a touch screen, you should be able to do things with just a single click. If that means having to click an "accept" button after making a choice, I am willing to accept that.
Just a few things I have noticed with some of the apps that claim to be "touch screen friendly"
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Could you add in a next release an option to view folders too?
I want to include some big top40 folders and view them as an album but its limited to 99 tracks.. :P
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Thanks - I will try it out in a day or two when I get a chance. Over a local LAN I don't think you notice without very large files.
I'm specifically interested if it will play over low-bandwidth networks - ie wireless. I have this issue with WinCab - it has to load the whole mp3 file first, so has a 10-30sec delay between each song over wireless, and I have some long sets - ie 1hour+ mp3s so need to have streaming support.
Thanks
As luck would have it, I had a couple of hour long MP3's that I was able to test with over my network. I have a slowish 100mb network at home (would take about 20 - 30 seconds to copy over a 100mb file). The file loaded up in no time at all, approx 1sec delay. I think you'll be fine when you try it out! ;)
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When using those pieces... use a mouse only or a keyboard only and make sure you can do everything you would want / expect...
Actually I would like to add a bit to your suggestion. Anyone developing for a touch screen that does not have one should remember when you test with a mouse. JUST USE THE LEFT CLICK BUTTON. Also keep in mind that double clicking is not natural when using a touch screen, you should be able to do things with just a single click. If that means having to click an "accept" button after making a choice, I am willing to accept that.
Just a few things I have noticed with some of the apps that claim to be "touch screen friendly"
Of course, I'm only working with the left mouse button! ;)
Keep your eyes out for an update in the next couple of days. I've made some pretty good progress in this area. Nothing major, just little tweaks from the suggestions here and from playing with it myself.
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Could you add in a next release an option to view folders too?
I want to include some big top40 folders and view them as an album but its limited to 99 tracks.. :P
Not sure what you're saying in the 1st part of the message, but why would a 'Top 40' album need to have the ability to see over 99 tracks? Seems like false advertising to me! ;) :P
Seriously, when I started writing the program, I needed to make a choice. Make the numbers that need to be typed in dynamic (i.e. require 1 digit for a song if less than 10 songs on the album, 2 digits for less than 100, 3 for less then 1000, etc), or fix it to 2 digits per song. I have a feeling that the program has gone too far to make the switch back or to make it an option.
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Could you add in a next release an option to view folders too?
I want to include some big top40 folders and view them as an album but its limited to 99 tracks.. :P
Not sure what you're saying in the 1st part of the message, but why would a 'Top 40' album need to have the ability to see over 99 tracks? Seems like false advertising to me! ;) :P
Seriously, when I started writing the program, I needed to make a choice. Make the numbers that need to be typed in dynamic (i.e. require 1 digit for a song if less than 10 songs on the album, 2 digits for less than 100, 3 for less then 1000, etc), or fix it to 2 digits per song. I have a feeling that the program has gone too far to make the switch back or to make it an option.
Well sorry my English is worse, especiallly when I'm stoned :P, but I've no top40 albums but seperate folders for each year in the top40, and each year has about 300-400 mp3s (in other words its a top5000) but now I can see only the first 99 songs of each year. But no worry, still gonna use this kewl program ;)
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As luck would have it, I had a couple of hour long MP3's that I was able to test with over my network. I have a slowish 100mb network at home (would take about 20 - 30 seconds to copy over a 100mb file). The file loaded up in no time at all, approx 1sec delay. I think you'll be fine when you try it out! ;)
Thats extremely good news, as it looks like Wincab is going to be unable to do this for a while! Good effort with all the touchscreen work as well, will feedback soon...
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Love this program. Works faultless on my home PC.
What are the minimum system requirements and operating systems?
I had a look at the "read me" file that came with the download and couldn't see.
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Love this program. Works faultless on my home PC.
What are the minimum system requirements and operating systems?
I had a look at the "read me" file that came with the download and couldn't see.
hmmm...not sure, really. I run it on a P3 800, but with a decent video card (GeForce 4 Ti). I would guess that anything over 1.2ghz would be more than fine.
As far as operating systems go, anything from Windows 98 up is supported. Might work on 95, but haven't tested it on that.
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Well, I finally got my touch screen running and took another look!
GREAT UPDATES! Really moving along great!
Now for the questions... Whats the chance of getting it skinnable? Mainly the bottom area. Even if its in a hard to deal with text file
something simple like
next_page, next.gif, .90, .10, .05,.05
previous_page, previous.gif, .10, .50, .05,.05
slide_show, 0, 0, .5, .5
....
And if you get this working, then you will find others doing extra work for you :)
anyway, here is the list of problems I had.
On my main PC... None... worked GREAT!
On my jukebox that runs a touchscreen at 640x480 almost ever button is to small. X to close screen, all the numbers.
I would love to see the bottom having much less space for the song lists by number and a bit next page button, previous page button, play button and skip button. But I know that many wouldn't... (Any touchscreen people use the number pad?)... But I'm hoping for something similar to a tape player.
Also, you mentioned that the percentage bar scales in the help, but I found that it didn't work at 640x480. Works better (behind the number pad) but still not really there.
Thanks for everything!
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Finally found some time for an update, so please everyone give it a go & see if your suggestions have made it in! ;)
Font customization is finally ready, but the colors are still a little ways off. Just a note on the font setup, you can change the fonts however you desire, but something to keep in mind is that I am not changing the layout in any other way. If you choose a font too big for the designated area, you'll need to go down in size until it fits. Changing the program to automatically shuffle things around will be an absolute nightmare, so it will be staying like it it.
That being said, if you notice something strange with it, just let me know.
I have made the keypad a little bit bigger. Let me know what you think (size wise). I'm not 100% happy with the look of it, but at least let me know if it's functional. No point me keeping on working on something that's already bad.
If you touch screen users could have a play & let me know if there's anything obvious that is missing / not working, it would be appreciated!
Note for Lilwolf : 640*480? Ouch! ;) Perhaps you should turn off the progress bar (Current Song Settings - Hide Song Timeline). Don't think I can even set my monitor to that resolution anymore.....
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A few things...:)
1. The color of the foreground and background don't seen to change. The sample does change color.
2. The "display track names" in the track list doesn 't work for me.
Otherwise, grrrreat update SK! Thanks for your hard work.
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Sweet, I'll look at it tonight!
As for the 640x480, you will find a bunch around here who use the lower resolutions... especially 640x288 (the highest arcadeVGA will output in non-interlaced mode)
btw, to test it... download quickres... Good utility that allows XP to goto any resolution. Something funny about changing windows to goto 320x240 in windows.. you can do it..... but a bit ugly..
btw, why don't you just size everything based on a percentage of the screen size?
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btw, why don't you just size everything based on a percentage of the screen size?
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A few things...:)
1. The color of the foreground and background don't seen to change. The sample does change color.
2. The "display track names" in the track list doesn 't work for me.
Otherwise, grrrreat update SK! Thanks for your hard work. :D
1. To quote my last post "Font customization is finally ready, but the colors are still a little ways off."
2. hmmm....here neither. OK, I see what's happened. The settings screen is saving & loading that option fine, I'm just never using it :o I'll put an update online in the next day or so to fix this, and once I've finished a couple of other things.
SK.
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btw, the 640x288 is the same ratio as any others. So the percentage is exactly the same as anything else... As long as you calculate the width / height seperately. Its when you try a 3/4 snap and try it a 4/3 that things REALLY get messed up... All the rest is rounding issues.
Fonts are really the only example. In one project I had I had all fonts calculated by percentage... but this isn't easy in Java (and probably C++) since font sizes aren't easy to set based on different width/height... but it can be done. (I did it last in post script).
But since the fonts can be configured... this isn't really a problem. EVERYTHING else looks GREAT at 640x480 right now. But a few of the controls that didn't scale.. but I'm getting rid of the progress bar. (now I'm just praying for skin or custom controls for touch screens that doesn't have a number pad and has next / skip song as a control.
btw, why don't you just size everything based on a percentage of the screen size?
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SK,
For some reason, SK Jukebox has stopped working on my system. Well, it still does everything except for playing the song. The scroll bar never starts, time remains at zero, etc. You can add more songs to the queue and flip the artwork, so the whole program isn't locked up..
I deinstalled using the routine that you provide, shut down, powered up, reinstalled. No change same problem after reinstalling. I tried the repair option in the routine you provide, and still no change. Tried the same things using the original version you posted...no change.
I'm debating going back to a system restore point, but that wreaks havoc with my Norton Antivirus.
All other programs that play MP3's still work: Windows Media Player, Winamp, WinCAB.
Have you maybe heard of anyone running into this before?
Brian
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SK,
For some reason, SK Jukebox has stopped working on my system. Well, it still does everything except for playing the song. The scroll bar never starts, time remains at zero, etc. You can add more songs to the queue and flip the artwork, so the whole program isn't locked up..
I deinstalled using the routine that you provide, shut down, powered up, reinstalled. No change same problem after reinstalling. I tried the repair option in the routine you provide, and still no change. Tried the same things using the original version you posted...no change.
I'm debating going back to a system restore point, but that wreaks havoc with my Norton Antivirus.
All other programs that play MP3's still work: Windows Media Player, Winamp, WinCAB.
Have you maybe heard of anyone running into this before?
Brian
hmmm...never heard of this. Although, I did have a strange experience the other night. I changed my screen resolution down to 640 * 480, to see how it looked. What happened was what you are stating, you can queue up songs, they just don't play. In my case, they wouldn't start at all (i.e. nothing would appear in the current song area).
What resolution are you running at, out of interest? Perhaps try changing to a different resolution to see if that fixes it. I wouln't think a system restore point will do anything, so stay away from that solution.
Did anything change on your system between the time it was working, and now? Hardware / software install?
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hmmm...never heard of this. Although, I did have a strange experience the other night. I changed my screen resolution down to 640 * 480, to see how it looked. What happened was what you are stating, you can queue up songs, they just don't play. In my case, they wouldn't start at all (i.e. nothing would appear in the current song area).
What resolution are you running at, out of interest? Perhaps try changing to a different resolution to see if that fixes it. I wouln't think a system restore point will do anything, so stay away from that solution.
Did anything change on your system between the time it was working, and now? Hardware / software install?
I just tried changing the resolution to various settings. No change. Problem remains.
I'm pretty certain the only new software on my WindowsME system is 'MP3-Tag Studio', which is a shareware program with banner advertising until registered. Double clicking on a file while you're editing the tags does pull up WinAMP and plays the file.
I have only edited a few files in one directory. SK jukebox will not play any MP3 on my system at this point...edited with that program or not. I just am not certain if it ever worked after installing that app, so I'm going to try de-installing that and see what happens.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll keep you posted.
Brian
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I too am having problems with the latest upgrade. Is there a registry setting changed in this new version? Even after uninstalling everything, and then reinstalling 180, I still cannot get it to play. I then installed 185...nothing. I then installed 189...nothing. Now It will not play, and the song bar does not move.
I can double-click on the autosave.m3u, and it will play in winamp. Wincab, AJ8, and Arcade Music Box all still play correctly.
Nothing has changed on my box, except for trying the new v189.
virtually,
Joseph
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Same problem here.
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Same problem here. The previous verisons worked flawlessly for me. I installed 1.8.9 dated 14/12/2004 and it will not play. I'm running this on a Win2000 Pro machine and have not changed the machine between the previous version and this version.
To Dermbrian: I too use 'MP3-Tag Studio' with the banner advertising running and have had no problems with SK Jukebox until this last version. I like MP3-Tag Studio; it has worked awesome for me.
BTW - This is my first post here and a I just wanted to say that this message board is one of the classiest and most helpful boards I've read. I've been a long time lurker and finally just joined. Thanks.
- Bill
I de-installed MP3-Tag Studio and that made no difference. Of course, who knows how cleanly it de-installed. But from other postings here, that's probably not related to the problem.
I also used the "repair'" function of the installer again. No change.
I know that I used Version 1.89 for a day or so before it stopped working, because I played around with the font options a little bit.
One more detail. ...
SK, you had mentioned that the oscilloscope is part of the player that you now use. Well, under the default settings, the album shows up in the small window for several seconds, then that area goes blank and then eventually the album shows up again, etc. So the jukebox is running but the player module isn't, more or less.
Brian
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"I know that I used Version 1.89 for a day or so before it stopped working, because I played around with the font options a little bit."
I think this is one of the most important points that has been made with this issue (which, incidently, happened to me for a few minutes, then went away). Also, the point being that some people have gone back to older versions without luck is interesting. ??? ??? ???
Something bizzare is happening! Give me a day or 2 with it, I'm sure I can find the cause.
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Although I did try the font options...meaning 1.89 worked when I loaded it...I guess that there's some chance that it only worked until the next cold boot. I wish I could remember clearly. I didn't use it for a few days before I noticed that it didn't work.
Good luck with your investigations.
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Although I did try the font options...meaning 1.89 worked when I loaded it...I guess that there's some chance that it only worked until the next cold boot. I wish I could remember clearly. I didn't use it for a few days before I noticed that it didn't work.
Good luck with your investigations.
Thanks, I needed it. Interesting to note that if you set your clock back a few days, it would work again. >:(
Seems that the control I am using was only a demo version (DAMN FINE PRINT!!!). Oh well, purchased the full version, and all is back to normal (except my bank balance being $89 less :-\)
The update is here : http://www.pleasuredome.org.uk/~salmonking/
Make sure you follow the instructions (i.e. delete your existing "amp3dj.ocx" file before applying the update!).
Now, back to more important things! ;)
EDIT : Doh, uploaded the wrong file. Make sure you download the "SKJukeboxUpdate_v1810-2.zip" file, the original didn't have the .exe in it. Wierd things happen when you're in a hurry! ;)
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KissAwesome! Deleted the .ocx file, applied new version of SK Jukebox, all works again here.
But are you sure about....
"Also, fixed the 'Display Track Names In Queue List' option"
Still numbers only in my queue list.
But I think I'll shut up. javascript:replaceText(' :-X', document.postmodify.message);
Lips SealedIt's a great jukebox interface as it is.
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But are you sure about....
"Also, fixed the 'Display Track Names In Queue List' option"
Still numbers only in my queue list.
Yes, very sure....tested it before uploading it, and just tested it then. All works fine!
Make sure you downloaded the "SKJukeboxUpdate_v1810-2.zip" file, as perhaps you have the non-fixed version?
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Hey SK, I'm still having problems. It still won't play and the program is now running very sloooow. Since it was still acting up, I uninstalled the program and reinstalled. I started with the installer setup. Then went and deleted the amp3dj.ocx file (was in winnt\system32 directory). I then used the "SKJukeboxUpdate_v1810-2.zip" file and unzip the contents to the install directory. Now the ocx file is sitting in the install directory. Is this right? Should it be back in the winnt\system32 directory? Like I said it is painfully slow right now, like click and wait 2-3 seconds for the album covers to slide over. Any thoughts??
-Bill
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I downloaded the 1810-2...only 1810 was there earlier, I believe. The names are now in the queue.
Unlike BillF, no issues with slowness on my system (WindowsME). Works beautifully now.
Brian
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BillF....did you unzip the update to the \Program Files\SK Jukebox directory? That's where it needs to go, not to the SK Jukebox Install Directory. It needs to be unzipped to where the actual SK Jukebox.exe file runs from.
Brian
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Yep, it was unzipped to where the actual SK Jukebox.exe file is.
Dermbrian, now I see why you asked that. I did say that the ocx file is sitting in the "install" directory, when I should have said it is in the \Program File\SK Jukebox directory. The files are all in the locations per SK's directions, but it is running painfully slow.
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Hey SK, I'm still having problems. It still won't play and the program is now running very sloooow. Since it was still acting up, I uninstalled the program and reinstalled. I started with the installer setup. Then went and deleted the amp3dj.ocx file (was in winnt\system32 directory). I then used the "SKJukeboxUpdate_v1810-2.zip" file and unzip the contents to the install directory. Now the ocx file is sitting in the install directory. Is this right? Should it be back in the winnt\system32 directory? Like I said it is painfully slow right now, like click and wait 2-3 seconds for the album covers to slide over. Any thoughts??
-Bill
Not really, no. That is the correct spot for the file (as indicated in a later post). Have you changed the setting for the Animation speed? Remember that the lower the value, the slower it will go.
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Since I reinstalled everything, the animation speeds are all still set at their defaults. Its not so much just a slow vs. fast animation, but more of a hurky jerky animation. I press the left or right directional arrow to slide the albums, it stalls for about 3 seconds, then moves just a little bit and holds for another 2 seconds, then completes the slide.
Here is some more info:
I start up the program with no songs in the queue. The animation works fine. I can scroll thru album covers at will. Now if I pick a song to play, it adds the song number in the queued listing area, flashes up the message 'Song Added' on the far right, then it does nothing. There is no song title, artist name, album name, progress bar, song time, nothing. AND this is then when it becomes painfully slow. So it appears that my slowness is due to songs in the queue. Which is not good :'(
I think I may try installing on another machine and see what that does. But if you think of anything let me know. Thanks.
- Bill
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Yay!! I'm listening to music again on SK Jukebox!! :D ;D
I deleted the original amp3dj.ocx file per SK's directions. On my machine it was in \WINNT\System32\. Then instead of copying BOTH the updated .exe and .ocx files into the \Program Files\SK Jukebox directory, I only copied the .exe to that directory. I then copied the updated .ocx file into the \WINNT\System32\ directory. And it works!! ;D ;D Well, at least I have music. I'll still have to play around with it to see if "everything" is working, but that will have to wait. Need some sleep. ;)
- Bill
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Yay!! I'm listening to music again on SK Jukebox!! :D ;D
I deleted the original amp3dj.ocx file per SK's directions. On my machine it was in \WINNT\System32\. Then instead of copying BOTH the updated .exe and .ocx files into the \Program Files\SK Jukebox directory, I only copied the .exe to that directory. I then copied the updated .ocx file into the \WINNT\System32\ directory. And it works!! ;D ;D Well, at least I have music. I'll still have to play around with it to see if "everything" is working, but that will have to wait. Need some sleep. ;)
- Bill
Yay! Sorry to put you all through this ::)
Guess I'll read the fine print a little closer next time. I'll update the installer on Monday, so it will install correctly off the bat. ;D
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No problem at all. I'm just glad I got it working again. :)
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where do I get a copy of the updated ocx file? I deleted it thinking it was in the SK directory..
Do I need to reinstall?
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where do I get a copy of the updated ocx file? I deleted it thinking it was in the SK directory..
Do I need to reinstall?
Should be in the update file on the site, or, yes, you can reinstall the program (that has been updated too).
If you reinstall, just save your .ini file, and pop it back in once it's done! :)
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Hey SK - Just wanted to let you know the new setup works fine for me. I uninstalled the old version and installed the new version using the new setup zip files and all is working great. ;D
I just wanted to thank you again for all the work you've put into this program. Truly one of the best "album based" juke programs out there. Kudos! 8)
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Hey SK - Just wanted to let you know the new setup works fine for me. I uninstalled the old version and installed the new version using the new setup zip files and all is working great. ;D
I just wanted to thank you again for all the work you've put into this program. Truly one of the best "album based" juke programs out there. Kudos! 8)
Thanks very much for the feedback! Merry Christmas to you everyone out there (even those who don't use the program... ;D)
I have a couple of weeks off starting on the 24th, so should be able to find the time to do those last couple of jobs I have in mind for the program ;)
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Care to drop any hints as to what's coming? ;)
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Care to drop any hints as to what's coming? ;)
Just what's in the WIP section in the readme.txt....although, you never know what ideas I may come up with when I've had a chance to think ;)
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Cool program, any chance to get artwork from songs? I went to all this trouble of putting pictures in each mp3, now I really hate to have jpg's mixed in my music directories, where every digital photo program I install finds them and wants to show me a photoalbum of them.
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Care to drop any hints as to what's coming? ;)
Just what's in the WIP section in the readme.txt....although, you never know what ideas I may come up with when I've had a chance to think ;)
Hey SK, a few weeks back I mentioned (in an email directly to you) a possible enhancement/feature for the jump option.
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Hey SK, a few weeks back I mentioned (in an email directly to you) a possible enhancement/feature for the jump option. It involved being able to map a button to bring up a scrollable list of the alphabet. That way if I'm in the "B" artist section on the jukebox but wanted to look for a song by "Pearl Jam", I would hit the mapped button, up would pop a list of letters and the "#" sign for those artists that start with a number (ie. 10,000 Maniacs, 4 Non Blondes, 3 Doors Down, etc.). I could then scroll over to "P" using the arrow keys, hit enter and it would take me to the beginning of the "P" section of artists. Just a nice graphical way of moving throughout all the artists, especially when you have 400+ albums like me. :)
I checked the WIP section and didn't see it listed. Just wondering your thoughts on it.
- Bill
ah yes, that's right. That's not a bad idea.....I've added it to the list so I can have a play over my break. ;D
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Excellent. Thanks. Enjoy your time off and have a great holiday season.
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Hello,
I just built a Jukebox and I'm using SK Jukebox to run it. I LOVE IT! It works MUCH faster than VMJ on older computers. I have a music collection of over 1500 CD's that I have put on the Hard Drive. Is there any chance of adding either a Search button or an Alphabetical List to jump to to the Artist you are looking for?
With a small music collection this probably isn't an issue, but I have 20,000 songs on my jukebox, and if it starts with AC/DC and you want to listen to Twisted Sister, you have to hit the forward button MANY times to get to the T's.
One other option that would be handy would be the ability to store different types of music under different buttons. For Example: Have a ROCk button, a COUNTRY button, a Dance Button, etc. Then when you hit the COUNTRY Button, all the jukebox displays is your Country Music. You could have a Folder on you hard drive with all your Country artists in it, and point the program to load that folder. Then when you hit the ROCK button, it loads all the Artists under the ROCK folder on the Hard Drive. It would be awesome if it loaded all the different Genres or Playlists at startup. That way you could instantly jump from Rock to Blue to Dance music without waiting for the program to load that folder.
I would be more than happy to make a donation to see these options implemented!!!!!!!!
Thanks,
CDBurnerrr
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Hello,
I just built a Jukebox and I'm using SK Jukebox to run it. I LOVE IT! It works MUCH faster than VMJ on older computers. I have a music collection of over 1500 CD's that I have put on the Hard Drive. Is there any chance of adding either a Search button or an Alphabetical List to jump to to the Artist you are looking for?
With a small music collection this probably isn't an issue, but I have 20,000 songs on my jukebox, and if it starts with AC/DC and you want to listen to Twisted Sister, you have to hit the forward button MANY times to get to the T's.
One other option that would be handy would be the ability to store different types of music under different buttons. For Example: Have a ROCk button, a COUNTRY button, a Dance Button, etc. Then when you hit the COUNTRY Button, all the jukebox displays is your Country Music. You could have a Folder on you hard drive with all your Country artists in it, and point the program to load that folder. Then when you hit the ROCK button, it loads all the Artists under the ROCK folder on the Hard Drive. It would be awesome if it loaded all the different Genres or Playlists at startup. That way you could instantly jump from Rock to Blue to Dance music without waiting for the program to load that folder.
I would be more than happy to make a donation to see these options implemented!!!!!!!!
Thanks,
CDBurnerrr
There is always the option of hitting 'J', typing what you want to jump to, then hitting Enter. There's always the possibilty that you could use 'F' and type in the criterea of what you're looking for (just be patient with that many songs!!!). Also, if you read the last couple of posts, I am going to investigate the option of having a key bring up a new Jump dialog, where you just scroll left / right to find the letter you're looking for the it jumps to that letter (i.e. eliminate the need to type).
If you read the readme.txt, and look at the site, there is information there relating to genres. I have already looked at this option, and it is way too hard to impliment. That's not to say I'll never look at it again, though, just there's plenty more to work on before I go insane trying to make this one work. ;)
I see you mention waiting for the program loading the folder (in an indirect way...). If your collection is pretty static, you might want to try turning on the Static Database. This will store the library in a couple of files, rather than searching the HDD every time you load up the program. Just go into Options, tick the box, and hit Update Database. You should notice quite an increase in loading time. If you change your albums around, just hit the Update Database button to refresh the files.
So, there you go.... 2/3 of the 1st request is already done, and the 2nd request has already been looked at. :)
SK.
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SK:
Just wanted to add my thanks. I was ALMOST going to purchase a jukebox program, then alone came SK jukebox. Perfect, free, and much appreciated.
Got the hardware all done, parts arrived, tomorrow we buy the wood, cut and assemble.
Art
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One other option that would be handy would be the ability to store different types of music under different buttons. For Example: Have a ROCk button, a COUNTRY button, a Dance Button, etc. Then when you hit the COUNTRY Button, all the jukebox displays is your Country Music. You could have a Folder on you hard drive with all your Country artists in it, and point the program to load that folder.
Thanks,
CDBurnerrr
I think this suggestion is a good one. Having a few buttons on the screen that let you choose from a small number of pre-defined paths would be a nice touch. You might not want complete symphonies (or hour long radio dramas...) to be selected when you're in "random" play for example. Or you really might want it to only load the "Christmas" directory at times.
This is very easy to do using the options as they already exist in SK Jukebox. It's a little harder in WinCAB, but not much. The main issue there is if the database needs to be rebuilt. But buttons to select from a few paths that you already have in a .ini file or an options screen would be a nice addition to either program.
Happy holidays....
Brian
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I've got to say this program is awesome! Fabulous work on this program!
The only thing I would add, is like a couple other have mentioned. Allowing separate directories for different genres. Hitting random play and mixing your Dead Kennedys with your Alan Jackson just isn't cool sometimes.
It is a fantastic program though. Totally stable and easy to work with! Thanks SK!
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You might not want complete symphonies (or hour long radio dramas...) to be selected when you're in "random" play for example.
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Just registered (longtime lurker on these forums) to say that SK Jukebox is the best out there. There is a lot of talk in this forum about categories and that was one of the requirements that I had in my setup. VMJ has this built in but that software is currently too buggy and I have thankfully dumped it. I noticed that the directory that SK uses to determine where to find mp3 is just a line in it's ini file so I have hacked together a bunch of AutoIT scripts and front ended the jukebox with a modified version of ArcadeEPIC. My mp3s are all arranged in separate folders loosely based on type of music (Jazz, Albums, World/Dub/Trance, Live) so I figured all I had to do was use separate ini files for each "library" of music that pointed to different directories.
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Hello Sk and Happy new year.
Two Things:
1. Could you store the volume level on exit and restore it when the program starts?
2. When the user clicks on a song on the Full album screen , it closes and the multiple album screen appears. Could you make the “auto-close” of the Full album screen optional?
Thanks. ;D
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Is there a way to set the time in between songs? It takes too long for me :P
Thanks SK!
Art
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Is there a way to set the time in between songs? It takes too long for me :P
Thanks SK!
Art
It was set to load fast, but a few weeks ago when people's songs stopped playing, I went back to the normal method. Turns out it had nothing to do with it, so I've put it back in!
Hello Sk and Happy new year.
Two Things:
1. Could you store the volume level on exit and restore it when the program starts?
2. When the user clicks on a song on the Full album screen , it closes and the multiple album screen appears. Could you make the
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btw, I don't think anyone cares if it takes a few seconds to switch between directories.
So you could just reload them with a new directory... I don' tknow what / how your saving the info now... but it seems like it might not be all that hard to change it to save based on name instead... and have one per song directory.
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Does SK jukebox use TinySQL? I installed and used it for a couple days, but now I'm getting EAccess Violation. Google shows lots of programs can issue this message, but I only have windows XP, AVG Free anti virus, mozilla, and SK jukebox installed.
I have AVG Free on other PC's with no problems.
Just checking. Thanks.
Art
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btw, I don't think anyone cares if it takes a few seconds to switch between directories.
So you could just reload them with a new directory... I don' tknow what / how your saving the info now... but it seems like it might not be all that hard to change it to save based on name instead... and have one per song directory.
Unfortunatly, that's not the way I want it to work. Seems like a bit of a cop-out ;)
I've already made alot of changes, and am just about ready for people to give it a go. The genres are based on the 1st part of the directory name, e.g. if you have "C:\Music\Rock" and "C:\Music\Blues", all you need to do is put in "C:\Music" as the path to look in, and tick the box that tell it to 'use genres'.
Then, when you load the program, it will give you a list of all the available genres to pick from. You scroll up / down to the one you want, then hit the key you have 'Enter' mapped to. It then displays all albums belonging to that genre.
To switch / get the list back up again, there is another key that brings up the list again. I might think about putting in an option that allows the 'Escape' key to bring up the genre list as well, in case there's those that don't want to use another key ;)
I have also added options for a scrollable jump list, saving volume levels from 1 session to the other, and only close the full view if Escape is pressed, or the close button in the top right of the full view is clicked.
This will be version 2.0.0, and I'll upload it tomorrow, once I've had move of a play. ;D
Does SK jukebox use TinySQL? I installed and used it for a couple days, but now I'm getting EAccess Violation. Google shows lots of programs can issue this message, but I only have windows XP, AVG Free anti virus, mozilla, and SK jukebox installed.
I have AVG Free on other PC's with no problems.
Just checking. Thanks.
Art
No, I don't use TinySQL, I'm afraid. That sounds like a very strange problem! Does it happen as soon as you open the program? Generally, Access Violation errors are the fault of bad RAM / HDD or a corrupt .exe / .dll, etc rather than being a programming fault. Are you having problems with any other programs? Perhaps try uninstalling the program & re-installing it.
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Just wanted to make a couple more comments about the genres, and what it affects.
It was going to be too hard to check for duplicate songs as they are entered, but I fixed that while writing this post. ;)
Random mode will only pick songs from the currently loaded albums (i.e. not across genres).
There is an "(All)" option which appears at the top of the list, so all albums can be viewed at the same time.
Loading playlists works across genres, so if you have a playlist saved that contains songs from different genres, they will be loaded even though they are not in the current genre.
You can switch genres on the fly, without affecting the program. That way, you can browse your Rock collection, queue some up, the head over to the Classical albums, if you wish.
Are there any questions about the genres (i.e anything I might like to look at before releasing it)?
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Unfortunatly, that's not the way I want it to work.
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My only request is that there be an option to remap minimize to a separate key from the back button, or to just go back as far as the genre list.
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The genre by directory is a swell idea, and coincidentally how I have my mp3s organized. ;D
Exactly what I was thinking!!
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My only request is that there be an option to remap minimize to a separate key from the back button, or to just go back as far as the genre list. Maybe an option to disable minimize? My juke is a wall mounted LCD with a creative remote. The pc is in the basement so trying to get SKJ back up after it has been minimized is a pain (well not really, but I try to make these things a bulletproof as possible for the special lady cause she's a technophobe and sometimes I think I'm walking on think ice with the gadgets ;D). My AutoIT scripts do almost the exact thing that you are talking about with the genre list. Neato.
The genre by directory is a swell idea, and coincidentally how I have my mp3s organized. ;D Are there any limitations on the folder names like length? Is there a limit to the number of genres/folders that SKJ will display?
Other than that, SKJ rocks! 8) You have saved my juke!
What version are you running there? I ask because :
19/11/2004 : Seperated the Back & Minimize keys
Already done! ;) The only thing, as I said, is that the Back / Escape key is different to the key that brings up the Genre list. If there's the need for it, I'll put in the option to make Back & Genre List the same key.
I guess the only limitation on the length is what fits horizontally in teh genre list. No limit to the number that it will display, unless you have many, many millions, and it eats up all your RAM! ;)
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http://www.pleasuredome.org.uk/~salmonking/
Version 2.0.0 Released!!
For those who want to use genres, and even those who don't, let me know if you come across any problems. There's been a hell of alot of changes to make this work, so I'm expecting a couple of bugs to slip in! ;)
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Copout? Sounds like you decided not to hack it :)
I was thinking you might get away with just reloading all the mp3s by changing the base directory. Glad to hear your doing a real fix for it and not a hack!
I have to load it up tonight and see how it came out!
btw, I don't think anyone cares if it takes a few seconds to switch between directories.
So you could just reload them with a new directory...
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I spoke too soon on the compilation album sort order.
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Dermbrian,
I have been looking all over the place for the songs you listed, the Christmas LP album which I have but it is badly scratched and ruined.
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Dermbrian,
I have been looking all over the place for the songs you listed, the Christmas LP album which I have but it is badly scratched and ruined. I have tried to find a cd version of it and have had no success. How did you get this in Jukebox??? I wanted to learn how to build or get a jukebox set up and really want that Christmas album on it. Any suggestions?
Hope you had a wonderful Christmas.
Clearsailing :angel:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=306&item=4065056355&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW
:)
I use MAGIX's "Audio Cleaning Lab" to record my LP's onto my PC. If you have a turntable attached to an amp, all you need is a cable to connect the LINE OUT from the amp to the LINE IN on the computer. That program is pretty easy to find at a low price used at used bookstores, etc.
I use other software to make the .mp3's from the .wav file(s) that Audio Cleaning Lab creates. Worst case, create a CD and then rip the CD. All the step-by-step directions depend on whatever you use to do the job.
Brian
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No feedback? Am I to asume that the program is working astonishingly well, therefore no problems / suggestions are to be posted? EXCELLENT! ;)
Seriously, any problems with the new version, please don't hesitate in posting here, or e-mailing me.
SK.
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Hello Sk
Thank for SK Jukebox :D
One suggestion, what about a "Now Playing" function with configurable (size) cover display or cycle artwork ??
Really good Job
Bauhaus aka Christophe
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Hi SK,
No bug detected so far, except when I switched on the genre thing, but since you’re working on it, ignore this comment.
Two requests though, it possible:
- The" find" and "queue list", since they could be used by the end user, it would have been nice if they could be aesthetically similar to the main window. If it is doable, that would mean that any change done on the Foreground and background color would have to apply to the windows.
- Since I see your program from the view of a touch screen user, I would like to propose this: What about when conjuring the “find” window, making a virtual keyboard appear? OK, before you start hitting me virtually with a baseball bat, I may have a “easy” way to do it: The Microsoft On-Screen Keyboard. When one calls for the “find” window, call for the keyboard and when the “find” window is closed, close the keyboard...or...you could create a homemade one...
I hope I don't get banned for overburdening the programmers... ;D :angel:
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SK,
You are 'da man! Awesome jukebox!!
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Forget what I said about the Genres. Bad manipulation from my part. :-X :P
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I really like the addition of the option choosing the genre/directory path. ('First part of directory is genre' checkbox)
But for us mouse users, can it be made to work where a double mouse click selects the choice? I notice I can click on a genre, but I have to hit <enter> to actually finish the process and get out of that screen.
This is going to make is super simple to keep the oddball stuff out of the random play mode.
Thanks!
Brian
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I have a basement full of pinball, chexx hockey, MAME machine, keg, etc. Just got my juke together using SK jukebox, and it's the first toy the wife sat down and actually used.
I asked her later, in my wanting approval voice, "So you like it?"
"Yes"
Finally, validation ::)
I'm interested in the GUI Jump changes. Going to install the update today, and paint.
Thanks again, SK.
Art
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I have 2 videos in my music directory. One is who's one first by abbot and costello, the other is "more cowbelll"
Any plans to add video support?
Thanks again SK.
Art
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I think I'm going to create a dummy 'first' .mp3 directory and modify the appropriate .jpg (empty.jpg, probably) in the SK Jukebox directory to present useful info. That way the first album cover could be a mini 'help' screen, showing the hot key to pull up the genre list, for example. Or any common task that isn't super intuitive.
There's not a lot that's not intuitive, though. But there may be, depending on the cabinet design, etc, for the real builders.
Maybe I'll also add a picture or graphic to that fake album cover with some personal meaning, that sort of thing.
Just some thoughts about how a user can easily go one step further without SK having to do it all......
Thanks,
Brian
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"more cowbelll"
That skit from SNL is one of the best!
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I really like the addition of the option choosing the genre/directory path. ('First part of directory is genre' checkbox)
But for us mouse users, can it be made to work where a double mouse click selects the choice? I notice I can click on a genre, but I have to hit <enter> to actually finish the process and get out of that screen.
This is going to make is super simple to keep the oddball stuff out of the random play mode.
Thanks!
Brian
Good idea, this has been added to the next version! :D
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Hello Sk
Thank for SK Jukebox :D
One suggestion, what about a "Now Playing" function with configurable (size) cover display or cycle artwork ??
Really good Job
Bauhaus aka Christophe
Not sure what you're asking for here??
How does that differ from the area at the bottom of the screen that says what is playing, and displays the artwork for that album (and visulizations, if selected)?
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I have 2 videos in my music directory. One is who's one first by abbot and costello, the other is "more cowbelll"
Any plans to add video support?
Thanks again SK.
Art
No plans at this stage, I'm afraid. I'll add it to the looooong term list, though ;)
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Hi SK,
No bug detected so far, except when I switched on the genre thing, but since you
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SK:
Gui JUMP kicks arse!
Art
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SK:
Gui JUMP kicks arse!
Art
Thanks for that! ;D
Now, to a mod that was requested : Look at using a Virtual Keyboard for the Find dialog
I am able in XP to load the Microsoft On-Screen Keyboard when the Find dialog comes up, then close it when the screen is closed.
In XP, the executable is 'osk.exe', and the window title is 'On-Screen Keyboard'. I need both of these bits of information to load it up, and close it down respectivly.
The program stores it's last on-screen position (by the program, I mean the keyboard program), so I don't need to do anything about moving the window. Just load it up, put it in the position you want it, and away you go.
What I need to know is : What operating systems have a Virtual On-Screen Keyboard built-in? I will need to know the executable name to run it, and the title of the window when it is run. I know that 2000 includes it, and I have that running at home, so can check there (unless someone can tell me before I get home....). I am more interested in Windows 98, 98SE & ME.
SK.
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Hello Sk
Thank for SK Jukebox :D
One suggestion, what about a "Now Playing" function with configurable (size) cover display or cycle artwork ??
Really good Job
Bauhaus aka Christophe
Not sure what you're asking for here??
How does that differ from the area at the bottom of the screen that says what is playing, and displays the artwork for that album (and visulizations, if selected)?
Sorry i mean .. :-[
a "Now Playing" function with configurable (size) cover display or cycle artwork in full screen mode....
the actual screensaver but more configurable.
Bauhaus
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One more request SK.
Once I hit J for jump GUI, I select my letter, I'd like to use J again instead of enter to move to the selection.
Can you make that mappable?
I don't have any other use for the ENTER.
Thanks again.
Art
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One more request SK.
Once I hit J for jump GUI, I select my letter, I'd like to use J again instead of enter to move to the selection.
Can you make that mappable?
I don't have any other use for the ENTER.
Thanks again.
Art
Absolutly, I'll put in an option for that. ;D
BTW : I am working on upgrading 'something'. When I bought the full version of the MP3 control, I lost the ability to play other sound formats. However, it was a small prce to pay to get rid of WMP9! Less than 1 month later, I received an e-mail telling me there was a new version out, which now plays WAV, WMA & OGG formats. Problem? It was going to cost me $90 to purchase the upgrade. :-\
Anyway, I contacted the company, and they made me an offer I couldn't refuse ;)
I was able to purchase the upgrade, and am currently making sure that it is all working. Once I've done that, I'll release an update with the new control. The control has the same name as the current one, so it should just be a matter of overwriting your existing one.
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BTW : I am working on upgrading 'something'.
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Fantastic Program.
I've been using VMJ. Its so slow compaired to this.
Just one problem and one request>
Problem: It has to do with selecting file naming.
When I select the proper naming for me ( xx Track.mp3)
it cuts off the start of the name. (Insted of "01 Track", I get "01 ack")
Now If I go and change it
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Fantastic Program.
I've been using VMJ. Its so slow compaired to this.
Just one problem and one request>
Problem: It has to do with selecting file naming.
When I select the proper naming for me ( xx Track.mp3)
it cuts off the start of the name. (Insted of "01 Track", I get "01 ack")
Now If I go and change it to xx - Track.mp3 it works fine untill I restart.
Then I have to do it all again.
My Files are xx Track.mp3.I'm using the static DB and Genre.
And that brings me to my request.
Could it ask to update the DB when pressing save instead of
having to go back to the general tab?
Thanks for giving us all a great Juke Program
Update: When I don't use the Genre its seems to work correctly.
Strange, the Genre option has no bearing at all over how it interprets the file name. Are you sure you're not using 'xx - track.mp3', rather than 'xx track.mp3'? Obviously, the difference here is 2 characters, which is what you are saying it has dropped off.
Remember to hit the Update Database button when changing any of these options (see next paragraph!)
It should ask you to update the Static Database if the paths have been modified, but I guess the same should apply to ANY of the settings in the 1st lot of options! I'll make that change. Might even move the Static Database option into that lot of options, too.
If you are still having problems, please copy & paste one of your file names into a reply here, and let me know how it is being displayed in the program.
Thanks,
SK.
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Well It looks like it was my problem.
There were two different formats.
My Full CDs were in the xx track format but the singles had no track number (xx). Look like I have some work to do :)
Thanks for the reply.
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Hey SalmonKing,
I love this program. ;D ;D It definitely does almost everything I need.
I just have a couple of requests. I noticed the feature you recently added to resume with the volume where it was when you last closed the app. This seems to be only kind of working for me. What I mean is that it will come up at 100% but then drop to where I last left it as soon as i click on the down volume button.
Another request would be for the volume buttons to repaet like the left and right buttons for scrolling through the album list. I am using a touch screen only and having to repeatedly touch the screen to change the volume is a bit difficult.
My last request would be to put some more of the controls on the screen. I do not have a keyboard accessable to my friends when they use the jukebox and sometimes we would like to turn on the random mode or skip a particular song that we no longer want to listen to. Any aditional controls, or even a popup control panel would be a great help.
As has been said before, if you want to develop for touch screen users and you don't have a touch screen yourself, just try using your app with the mouse and the LEFT click alone. Also remember that double clicking is not natural on a touch screen.
I hope all this doesn't sound too harsh. I really love this program and am happy to finally have an aplication that really seems to just work for my needs. It would just be perfect for me with a few more tweaks.
Thanks again for your time and effort.
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Hey SalmonKing,
I love this program. ;D ;D It definitely does almost everything I need.
I just have a couple of requests. I noticed the feature you recently added to resume with the volume where it was when you last closed the app. This seems to be only kind of working for me. What I mean is that it will come up at 100% but then drop to where I last left it as soon as i click on the down volume button.
Another request would be for the volume buttons to repaet like the left and right buttons for scrolling through the album list. I am using a touch screen only and having to repeatedly touch the screen to change the volume is a bit difficult.
My last request would be to put some more of the controls on the screen. I do not have a keyboard accessable to my friends when they use the jukebox and sometimes we would like to turn on the random mode or skip a particular song that we no longer want to listen to. Any aditional controls, or even a popup control panel would be a great help.
As has been said before, if you want to develop for touch screen users and you don't have a touch screen yourself, just try using your app with the mouse and the LEFT click alone. Also remember that double clicking is not natural on a touch screen.
I hope all this doesn't sound too harsh. I really love this program and am happy to finally have an aplication that really seems to just work for my needs. It would just be perfect for me with a few more tweaks.
Thanks again for your time and effort.
I have already fixed the problem with the 'saved volume level', so keep your eyes open for an update! ;)
If you turn on the option for Automatic Key Repeating, that should allow you to hold down one of the buttons on the on-screen keypad & it will repeat like you were using the keyboard.
For the touch screen functionality, I need to know what you expect from the control panel / keypad. What functions are you missing? I have used the program with just the left mouse button, and it seems to work fine. There are obviously some of the other features missing, so which ones are you missing the most?
SK.
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SK:
Have you noticed a bug where the albums always scroll as 4? I have it set to 2, but it still scrolls 4. Consensus of my users was it was fine at 4, so it's not such a big deal for me.
Art
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SK:
Have you noticed a bug where the albums always scroll as 4? I have it set to 2, but it still scrolls 4. Consensus of my users was it was fine at 4, so it's not such a big deal for me.
Art
Art,
That sees to be a problem with the Automatic Key Repeating. If you turn that off, it should be fine. I am still working on that feature, so it's no surprise that it's not behaving ;)
SK.
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Not true! This is NOT just another Jukebox program is is feature packed and runs great on my PC.
Nice one SK..
I was on the board when this was first posted but only now got around to try SK jukebox and I have to agree with Cockney_Geezer, you did a great job SK! I've been playing with it only about an hour and I'm 99% of the way there already. My two issues right now are track title not fully displayed and wrong file displayed in the artwork (I sometimes have other JPEGs in the directory that are thumbnails, for a different application, and they sometimes get picked by SKJukebox). I haven't read all the doc and this thread so I need to do that and see if the answer is there.
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Is there any way to print out the catalog, using SK's database or anything else? I'd like to have a nice excel spreadsheet of my directory that i could sort anyway I want.
Art
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Is there any way to print out the catalog, using SK's database or anything else?
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Sweet! Didn't know about the bare switch.
Art
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now gimme a way to re-arrange the physical directories after I re-arrange them in Excel :-)
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Is there any way to print out the catalog, using SK's database or anything else? I'd like to have a nice excel spreadsheet of my directory that i could sort anyway I want.
Art
There's also the E key, too, which exports a couple of tab-delimited .txt files in the application directory. Might not be as much info as you want, but it works for me! ;)
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now gimme a way to re-arrange the physical directories after I re-arrange them in Excel :-)
VBA - FileCopy could probably do a bunch of the work. Actually a quick look into the help,
NAME oldname AS newname
looks like it will do the trick (if you are good with VBA)
According to the help for NAME Statement
Renames a disk file, directory, or folder.
Seeing this, I think an issue on my machine will be resolved shortly. :-)
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There's also the E key, too, which exports a couple of tab-delimited .txt files in the application directory. Might not be as much info as you want, but it works for me! ;)
I'll try that too. The directory into excel worked quite nicely, I just have to remove all the 01- 02- from the song titles. ::)
Art
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how is the order of the tracks within the album determined then?
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I want to print a list sorted by song title. Once we found the song on the list, we would just go to that album and type in it's number.
I figure having a printed list near the jukebox would be helpful if someone said, do you have "insert song title" on here?
Art
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I have read alot of good reviews of your Jukebox program and decided to try it out. Unfortunately I am having a problem with an error message.
I am sure it is just a configuration problem on my end but any assistance would be appreciated.
Mllkat
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hi I am getting the same runtime error 429 mesg as milkat ,but the funny thing is i have installed the program on 2 computers both runing xp pro+sp1 but only get error on one comp?
any help please
mado21
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Anyone using a touchscreen with this software.
I can't get it to exit the screen saver using the touch only.
Any help?
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I keep hoping for better touch screen compatibilty.. I LOVE the software... but it just doesn't really work without a keyboard. Missing too many features...
Needs the ability to remove the keypad... and add basic CD player controls (play, stop, fastforward, rewind)... then it would be golden :)
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Needs the ability to remove the keypad... and add basic CD player controls (play, stop, fastforward, rewind)... then it would be golden :)
Don't these kind of controls make it more media player than jukebox?
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I have read alot of good reviews of your Jukebox program and decided to try it out. Unfortunately I am having a problem with an error message.
I am sure it is just a configuration problem on my end but any assistance would be appreciated.
Mllkat
Have both of you just downloaded the program for the first time? If so, check the very bottom of the page. There is a link to download the VB6 runtimes required by the program. Download & run this file & let me know if you are still getting the error.
SK.
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I keep hoping for better touch screen compatibilty.. I LOVE the software... but it just doesn't really work without a keyboard. Missing too many features...
Needs the ability to remove the keypad... and add basic CD player controls (play, stop, fastforward, rewind)... then it would be golden :)
As I have asked a couple of times previously, I need to know ALL functions that you want. I added more, but it's still not enough! ;)
If you list the functions that you need, I'll look into it. All I can see missing is a 'Next Song' button, and perhaps the ability to close the program.
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I just bought a touchscreen so I'm still working with it.
Imagine using only the left mouse with you program.
No right clicking and no keyboard.
I have one problem. I can't exit the screen saver with the mouse/touchscreen. Did I miss something in the config?
Now on to some suggestions. How about some extra programable buttons on the screen. They could be programed/assigned any task such as next song or clear Que. Another one would be to have one button to pop-up a control screen which might have the next/clear/View Que and some other features.
Don't take any of this the wrong way you have a great program here. I works great on my non touch Juke :D
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I just bought a touchscreen so I'm still working with it.
Imagine using only the left mouse with you program.
No right clicking and no keyboard.
I have one problem. I can't exit the screen saver with the mouse/touchscreen. Did I miss something in the config?
Now on to some suggestions. How about some extra programable buttons on the screen. They could be programed/assigned any task such as next song or clear Que. Another one would be to have one button to pop-up a control screen which might have the next/clear/View Que and some other features.
Don't take any of this the wrong way you have a great program here. I works great on my non touch Juke :D
But, do you still want the EXISTING keypad? I'd hate to do more work than is required with this ;)
As for programmable keys, I can see what will happen. As a software developer, it's hard to come up with rules. The second you put one in place, someone / something wants it broken. So, I could put in 5 programmable keys, then someone will want 6. ;D I had an experience recently where a customer requested more room in a certain field, so I doubled it. They had the update for a day until such time that they needed 1 more character that was allowed in the new version ??? ::) :-[ :'( >:(
I'm not really sure what to do with this, but let me look at it over the weekend (but don't stop giving ideas on how it can be improved, please!!!)
As for existing the screensaver using the mouse, that was causing me problems when I first did it. I believe the problem was that I was trying to make it exit with a mouse movement, but the program kept getting 'told' that the mouse had moved, even though it hadn't. I should be able to make it close with a mouse click, though!
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Hm-mm.. I might be able to map the existing keypad.
Can you make it display the changed key.
For example:
If I change the 1 key to F, can you make it display the F on screen insted if the 1?
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Sorry, I should have been a little more detail.
I'm running on a 15" touchscreen. And the sizes when using the number pad is way to small. So not having those controls up removes many of the abilities.
I keep hoping for better touch screen compatibilty..
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hi sk
i did a you said but still geting the error it works fine on my other comp driveing my crazy
mado21
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hi sk
i did a you said but still geting the error it works fine on my other comp driveing my crazy
mado21
I have updated the installer using a different program.
Uninstall what you have done already.
http://www.pleasuredome.org.uk/~salmonking/ <- This link is always the most up-to-date
Download both the VB6 runtimes AND installer (so, 3rd & 1st link). Run them in that order (I'm assuming you ran the installer in the first place, and didn't just use what was in the update file). It should be that simple!
Let me know if you still have problems.
SK.
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hi sk thanks for your reply but still no luck the only thing i can think of is on the comp that works i have a ATI card and on the one that doesn't i have a nvidia card maybe somethink to do with the drivers ?. also when i run the vb runtime installer i get a msg saying "do i want to install " i click yes then a window opens that says copying files then it closes and thats all nothing to say that it installed ok?.just wondering if that was right or arnt the vb runtimes installing properly
mado21
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hi sk thanks for your reply but still no luck the only thing i can think of is on the comp that works i have a ATI card and on the one that doesn't i have a nvidia card maybe somethink to do with the drivers ?. also when i run the vb runtime installer i get a msg saying "do i want to install " i click yes then a window opens that says copying files then it closes and thats all nothing to say that it installed ok?.just wondering if that was right or arnt the vb runtimes installing properly
mado21
Very, very strange. Tell you what, download this file :
http://www.pleasuredome.org.uk/~salmonking/updates/SKJukeboxDebug_v206.zip
Extract it to the directory you have SK Jukebox installed to, then run the program. That SHOULD tell me exactly where the program is failing. Just let me know the exact error message, and it should give me a clue. *fingers crossed!*
SK.
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I have read alot of good reviews of your Jukebox program and decided to try it out. Unfortunately I am having a problem with an error message.
I am sure it is just a configuration problem on my end but any assistance would be appreciated.
Mllkat
Have both of you just downloaded the program for the first time?
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hi SK
thanks for your reply i download the file and this is the error msg i got
the top box appeared first then a few seconds later the 2nd one popped up
i hope this helps
mado21
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hi SK
thanks for your reply i download the file and this is the error msg i got
the top box appeared first then a few seconds later the 2nd one popped up
i hope this helps
mado21
It does help, but I'm not exactly sure what to think. At that point, it is creating the connection to MsgHook.dll. I guess the first thing to try is search your PC for any copy of that file that might be causing a conflict. An older version might be causing problems. The current installer will have that file in the same directory as the executable.
The 2nd thing to try is to manually register that DLL by clicking Start -> Run, then put in there :
regsvr32 (path-to-skjb)\MsgHook.dll
Manually registering it should work, but it's still a mystery as to why it isn't registering in the install.
SK.
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hi SK
success! i followed your instructions but it would not find the path. so then i tried to do it from a dos prompt and it worked. the only thing i can think of is ive got 2 user accounts on this computer that didnt work (they are both admin accounts),but only one on the the computer that did .again many thanks for all your help and what a great program.
mado21
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hi SK
success! i followed your instructions but it would not find the path. so then i tried to do it from a dos prompt and it worked. the only thing i can think of is ive got 2 user accounts on this computer that didnt work (they are both admin accounts),but only one on the the computer that did .again many thanks for all your help and what a great program.
mado21
Excellent, enjoy! :D
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SK- Love the software
One problem I am having that others may have also is with the file system. I have all of my .MP3's in one directory and have them tagged with ID3 tags (X:Music\xsong.mp3). I don't have them in album folders...(X:Music\xalbum\xsong). Is there any way that I can use the ID3 tags to sort into albums or artist. I have a fairly large collection and I don't want to have to go through and sort everything into its own album folder. Right now I just get the first 99 tracks of my X:music folder. Other than that your software does everything I would want in a juke program.
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Best program i've used yet. Thanks, it works perfect for my needs, great job. :)
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SK- Love the software
One problem I am having that others may have also is with the file system. I have all of my .MP3's in one directory and have them tagged with ID3 tags (X:Music\xsong.mp3). I don't have them in album folders...(X:Music\xalbum\xsong). Is there any way that I can use the ID3 tags to sort into albums or artist. I have a fairly large collection and I don't want to have to go through and sort everything into its own album folder. Right now I just get the first 99 tracks of my X:music folder. Other than that your software does everything I would want in a juke program.
You could try Tag&Rename. That program certainly gets a huge workout on my PC, and there should be an option in there to help you with this.
http://www.softpointer.com/tr.htm
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I installed 2.06 and it looks like it wiped out all my configuration files. kindof aggravating.
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I understand that this is not a very general urpose request, but I would love to see a way to display a custom "instruction card" picture: since I use SK jukebox on an aracde cabinet, the controls are not especially obvious.
Ideally the "pause" key would bring up the picture, this way this would match the panel viewer that buddabing added to MAME. Another way to do it would be to show it instead of/in alternance with the track list (maybe move the track list as scrolling text below the song progress if we loos that area?)
I'll still use SK Jukebox without that feature, but it never hurts to ask.
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I installed 2.06 and it looks like it wiped out all my configuration files. kindof aggravating.
If you used the Uninstall feature, then this could have happened.
I have recently changed from the MS installer to a new system, and I have TOTAL control over what is installed / uninstalled. The .ini file is NOT included in the new uninstall, so it won't happen again. ;)
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cool. not that big a deal, just a minor annoyance, and since I'm still tuning the system I didn't have backups of the SK folder yet.
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As everyone else has duely noted, this is an awesome program..
Only two things I could add that would/could make this better is the following:
- allow a song to be picked using only the cursor keys and enter. Ie. use left/right arrow to select the page album required is on, then use up/down arrow to select from the four albums on that page. Select desired album using enter key and then album goes "full screen". Select song using up/down arrows and enter to select song.
- start up with "random" song active - selectable of course.
again.. great program.
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As everyone else has duely noted, this is an awesome program..
Only two things I could add that would/could make this better is the following:
- allow a song to be picked using only the cursor keys and enter. Ie. use left/right arrow to select the page album required is on, then use up/down arrow to select from the four albums on that page. Select desired album using enter key and then album goes "full screen". Select song using up/down arrows and enter to select song.
- start up with "random" song active - selectable of course.
again.. great program.
Thanks for the feedback!
Point 2 is a good one, so I'll add it to the list. The amount of times I load up the program only to hit 'R' is uncountable :D
Point 1 is the tricky one. It has been brought up before, and is by no means easy. In fact, I'll go so far to say that it will never happen. The way the program is already coded would make this a nightmare to add. Sorry to say, but I just don't see a way of adding this in! I'll add it to the 'Long Term' list, but that could mean I won't look at it till next year. :'( As with every other suggestion / request, I'll certainly have another look at it, but don't hold your breath!!
Cheers,
SK.
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1 out of 2.. I can live with that ;D
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http://www.pleasuredome.org.uk/~salmonking/
Version 2.1.0 released.
This version adds an option to allow more than 99 songs per album :D
Check the Version History for a few more tasty morsels ;)
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This version adds an option to allow more than 99 songs per album
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This version adds an option to allow more than 99 songs per album :D
Was that actually a requested feature? What kind of album has over 99 songs on it, other than something like a sound effects CD?
Compilations that people create for themselves, mainly.
In my case, recordings of our church choirs collected over several years, would qualify.
I think the original train of thought was things like collecting hits from a given decade and putting them in one folder....thus one 'album'. Since SK Jukebox doesn't use ID3 tags, the word 'album' is open to interpretation.
Brian
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Was that actually a requested feature? What kind of album has over 99 songs on it, other than something like a sound effects CD?
Exactly my response to the 5 or 6 people who have brought it up! ;)
I held off doing it for a long time, but decided that I don't like placing limitations on the software if I don't have to. Of course, sometimes these limitations are required for time / reasonability / etc, and this one DID take a bit of work to get around.
In the end, if it can reduce the e-mails I get that start 'Hey, love the program, but...', that's a good thing ;D
SK.
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So if we want a feature we should start spamming you? j/k ;D
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http://www.pleasuredome.org.uk/~salmonking/
Version 2.1.0 released.
This version adds an option to allow more than 99 songs per album
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Whats the chances you could add an adjustable equalizer.
And just another note-When volume is set below 100% and the program is shut down and restarted with songs in the Que you have to hit the end button to equal out the balance, I thought maybe it was just my machine that caused this, But I put it on a brand new machine with windows xp fresh out of the box and it does the same thing on that machine too.Still the best program I have found yet. Thanks Salmon-King its the greatest.
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WOW! an awesome program kudos to you! (and as soon as I have some $ in Paypal a donation will be coming to you also).
It has already replace VMJ in my jukebox since it does all the stuff I have wanted VMJ to do for a while (multiple genres selected easily, integrated screensaver, easier music management, etc etc).
I do have a couple of quirks I have discovered...
First when booting it will be in an empty genre (just four "no cover" pictures) and then if I hit genre and try to select the first one in the list it will just stay in the empty one. If I switch to a different genre and then switch back it works fine then.
Secondly and not that important - If I exit and come back and it continues playing the song its fine - but when I enter a genre (Ie using the above method) it drops the left audio channel for the duration of the current song. You can just skip it and everything is fine.
Thanks again for the awesome program!
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How about changing this thread to
"One Of The Best Jukebox Programs"
???
BTW, I say 'one of the best' because all programs made available by members here are just great.
Brian
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Whats the chances you could add an adjustable equalizer.
And just another note-When volume is set below 100% and the program is shut down and restarted with songs in the Que you have to hit the end button to equal out the balance, I thought maybe it was just my machine that caused this, But I put it on a brand new machine with windows xp fresh out of the box and it does the same thing on that machine too.Still the best program I have found yet. Thanks Salmon-King its the greatest.
Thanks for the feedback!
I'll add the equalizer to the 'to look at list' ;)
I noticed something strange with the balance a while back, but it didn't come up again so just took it as a one off quirk. I'll check it out.....
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WOW! an awesome program kudos to you! (and as soon as I have some $ in Paypal a donation will be coming to you also).
It has already replace VMJ in my jukebox since it does all the stuff I have wanted VMJ to do for a while (multiple genres selected easily, integrated screensaver, easier music management, etc etc).
I do have a couple of quirks I have discovered...
First when booting it will be in an empty genre (just four "no cover" pictures) and then if I hit genre and try to select the first one in the list it will just stay in the empty one. If I switch to a different genre and then switch back it works fine then.
Secondly and not that important - If I exit and come back and it continues playing the song its fine - but when I enter a genre (Ie using the above method) it drops the left audio channel for the duration of the current song. You can just skip it and everything is fine.
Thanks again for the awesome program!
Thanks to you as well for the feedback! :D
If you are using genres, it should be displaying the genre list automatically when the program starts. There should be no need for hitting the genre key to get it initially. Perhaps I messed something up with it recently, I'll check it out.
As per the post just before yours, I had that happen to me once, so I'll check that out again too.
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Hi
Well Done..... ;D
What about scrolling title if it's too long :laugh:
Bauhaus
Do you mean in the area that is displaying the currently playing track?
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Just a note : I only just realised that the Update link on the site was still pointing to the old version! :-[
The page is updated now for anyone who wants to download the update to 2.1.0
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Hi
Well Done.....
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2 & 3)
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Ok I just added SKJB to my stand alone juke and it is AWESOME, a term much over-used on this forum but in this case totally applicable.
I also had a funny quirk with the balance, this only occurred on the first track played (went if I skipped to the next title) and was drastic enough that it was tripping the cut out on my sub amps, weird huh?
Massive improvement over VMJ, why did I want a skin with lots of chrome? My cabinet has that and the clean lines of this prog set it off perfectly.
Still would love an equaliser and mpeg support but it is GREAT, thanks again.
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I got a question? Is there a way to choose a whole album instead of individual songs?
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Yep, enter 00 for the track number, as long as this is turned on in options
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Sweet. Thanks for the help.
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Is your program eventually gonna have video support? I can't complain about it since it is free, just thought adding video would be pretty awesome. I own virtual music jukebox but I don't think it is as good as your program. I don't like how they only give you three keys for it when you pay for it. I bought it I should be able to put it on every computer I own. I own 3 PC's and I'm not about to shell out more money to put it on the other two PC's. It is also buggy as hell. Anyone reading this thread and is wanting to get a jukebox program, save your money and go with this one. :) Also one more request? I'm sure you have heard this a hundred times, are you gonna make this skinable? Thanks for the awesome program. We need more guys like you around here 8)
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SK stated previously that Video support was on the list, but it would take awhile.
I have the option checked to not show 00, but make it work anyway, and it doesn't work for me.
any ideas why?
Art
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I've been playing a bit more with the balance problem. When you start the program the balance is all one way, but corrects when skip to the next track (adjusting the balance does not work). However if you skip to the next song and then adjust the balance it works in one direction but will not go back (numbers change but nothing happens). Unless you go all the way to 0 or 100 and then it jumps back to normal.
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SK stated previously that Video support was on the list, but it would take awhile.
I have the option checked to not show 00, but make it work anyway, and it doesn't work for me.
any ideas why?
Art
Sorry Art, no idea. It's always worked for me, and everyone else, AFAIK. I'm assuming you know how it works? If you want to queue up album 137, you'd enter '13700' and hit Enter (unless you have the option on that setup that accepts songs without needing to hit Enter).
If you're doing all of that and are using the latest version, send me your SKJukebox.ini, in case it's something to do with the combination of options you have selected.
As for the rest of the people who have brought up the balance issue, I'm on it! I didn't get time to look at the program over the Easter break, as I stayed at the beach longer than I had planned ;D
Video & skinning support are things that are on the 'Long Term To-Do List'. This means that I am seriously unlikely to look at it in the next 6 months, but it's there on the list to investigate when I run out of other stuff to do.
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Hi
Just a quick idea that might be really easy to implement.
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Hi
Just a quick idea that might be really easy to implement. How about a new screensaver mode that simply takes the area of the screen that alternates between vumeter, waveform, coverart etc and expanding this to full screen, this would look great on my cab.
Easy to miss, but this is what I wrote on 14/11/2004 in the readme.txt :
"AND, I can only have 1 oscilloscope attached to the player, so I can't use it in the screen saver."
Now, that was some time ago, and the control has since been upgraded. I'll have another look at it to see if the ability to change where it is outputting that display 'mid-flight', but the ability was definately not present when I first used it 4 months ago.
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Thanks for the reply, I am rereading the readme.txt now before I post anything else.
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Just letting you all know that I fixed the problem with the balance. It was a change in the control that I was unaware of. Before, the balance ranged from 0 to 100, with 50 being normal. However, the new control ranges from -50 to 50, with 0 being normal.
I will put an update online in the next couple of days, as I want to have a look at a few other things that are on the 'to do list'. I've been so busy lately that just spending 15 mins checking out this issue was a stretch!! :-[
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Just an FYI - Typically I just leave it on random and I've noticed that ocassionally it will play through a track and stop at the end and just sit there and not progress onto the next song without manually hitting skip.
I'll just realize that nothing is playing and I'll go over to it - the screen saver will be on and the track progress bar will be full... I haven't narrowed it down yet but I will try to make a note of what songs it does this on to see if there is some consistancy as to the tracks that it is happening on.
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great program dude
just wondering if there is anyway i can control the whole song selection thing WITHOUT the number system... just using my mame joystick perhaps?
id love it if i could!
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I've got it working on my MAME cab and it works great without the number system (well, I haven't upgraded to the latest version but I can't imagine that that changed).
You will need a keyboard and mouse to set it up originally probably, but if you type O in the main screen, you will see lots of options, including remapping controls, etc...
I use the cursor keys (panel joystick) to scroll through the albums and the "fire1" key to select. When I select an album it "zooms" into that album, then I can select the top line for "entire album" (this is something you need to anable in the options) or I can choose a song.
I don't have enough buttons on my cab (single player) to map all the controls but I have mapped the one I really care about, like volume, etc...
You can even enable a credit mode if your cab has a token acceptor...
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great program dude
just wondering if there is anyway i can control the whole song selection thing WITHOUT the number system... just using my mame joystick perhaps?
id love it if i could!
It depends on how your joystick works! If it is sending keyboard commands to the PC, sure. If it's a 'traditional' joystick, no.
For the keystrokes, you will notice that there is an option to select album 1, 2, 3 or 4 on the screen (F1 to F4, IIRC). That means you can scroll left / right through the albums, bring 1 of the 4 albums up, then arrow up / down to the song you want & Enter it. Using the Scrollable Jump would work nicely with that setup too, if you have alot of albums.
As for responding to 'joypad style' commands, I've never done any work with that. Can't imagine it would be TOO hard, so let me know if you need this option added.
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yeah its just an ipac controller... so yeah, it works to scroll etc... but when i select an album, i cannot select a particular song in the list
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ah just figured it out... had to disable the autmatically select thing.
but now every time i select an album (one of my album select keys is the alt key) it brings up the "minimize, maximise close" window in the top left... any way of disabling that besides changing my keymap??
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ah just figured it out... had to disable the autmatically select thing.
but now every time i select an album (one of my album select keys is the alt key) it brings up the "minimize, maximise close" window in the top left... any way of disabling that besides changing my keymap??
hmmm.....interesting. Don't think I've used the Alt key (as it can really be a pain sometimes!!!). Is there any way you can use a different key, or are you strapped for buttons?
Also, are you running the program in full screen or in a window? Full screen should remove the 'control box' in the top corner of the screen, but it's still there in Windowed mode. I might be able to get around that by turning off the control box, but it took alot of rooting around with those options to get full screen to work! Maybe I can removed all options from the menu (as an option) then again, these sort of 'manipulations to inbuilt functions' can be hard.
Edit : Come to think of it, that menu shouldn't come up with just an Alt press, rather it requires Alt + Space for it to come up.
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space would be button next to ALT on a regular MAME cabinet :D
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What's the proper procedure to upgrade?
I downloaded te full install file for 2.10, then I extracted the update one because it seem that's what the instructions say, and once again I have lost all my config!
to scale82: I assigned the ALT key (fire2 for MAME) to the "back" function and I don't seethe dialog you're talking about. I am running in full screen however.
to SK: since I have a large number of albums it would be nice to have a "fast forward" scroll. I use the 4 album view and ideally I would like to be able to use the up and down key to jump back and forth (but still maintain the up and down key to scroll the list in full view).
I'm not sure how you would choose how to jump. Jump 20 albums ahead? Go to the next letter in the alphabet?
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What's the proper procedure to upgrade?
I downloaded te full install file for 2.10, then I extracted the update one because it seem that's what the instructions say, and once again I have lost all my config!
If you already have it installed, simply extract the Upgrade zip over the top of your setup. As for losing the config.....all I can assume is that the installer thinks it needs to overwrite the existing one (which I THOUGHT I told it not to). That should be pretty simple to say 'if the .ini file already exists, don't install it'. However, as I have pointed out, you don't need to install on a new update, simply unzip.
to SK: since I have a large number of albums it would be nice to have a "fast forward" scroll. I use the 4 album view and ideally I would like to be able to use the up and down key to jump back and forth (but still maintain the up and down key to scroll the list in full view).
I'm not sure how you would choose how to jump. Jump 20 albums ahead? Go to the next letter in the alphabet?
Not easy, but I'll add to the list to look at some time.
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im pretty sure i was in full screen mode.... then again i could be wrong, just could be a really big window :-\ ill try full screen mode tonight...
i wanted to have button 1 and 2 select the two bottom albums and button 4 and 5 do the top two windows (like it was in a square) then i can use the last two buttons for other things..
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im pretty sure i was in full screen mode.... then again i could be wrong, just could be a really big window :-\ ill try full screen mode tonight...
i wanted to have button 1 and 2 select the two bottom albums and button 4 and 5 do the top two windows (like it was in a square) then i can use the last two buttons for other things..
OK......full screen doesn't have a control box (which is what Alt + Space is activating), so give that a whirl. Do you think you were hitting Space at the same time as Alt? It's the only way I can get the menu up here.
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it was definaltley just alt on its own... but now i unticked "windowed mode" it works fine... so now im just trying to get all my filenames in a good order so it works good.
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I have read alot of good reviews of your Jukebox program and decided to try it out. Unfortunately I am having a problem with an error message.
I am sure it is just a configuration problem on my end but any assistance would be appreciated.
Mllkat
Any resolution on this? I'm trying to get SKJK to run on a Win98 PC.
I've installed the runtimes, both of the updates on SK's page, and manually had to do a REGSVR32 MSCOMCTL.OCX.
Thanks.
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After a reboot, I'm getting Run Time Error '5'. Invalid procedure call or argument
Art
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After multiple reboots and running windows update until nothing left to install, all OK.
??? ;D
Art
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Holy Crap! I have just about given up on VMJ...this thing is SUPER SWEET. I had it working at work today and was FREAKING OUT! it's SO much faster and more configurable than VMJ....
So I got home and started messing with it more. I saw someone post earlier how you can set up the Genres and got that set up. FREAKIN SWEET! Then I realized I hadn't set an option that I HAD set on my Work PC. The "Display Track Names Not Codes In 'Track List'
BOOM, program crashed. Can't get it back up without editing the ini file. Tried it on my standalone Jukebox PC and it did the same thing. I tried unchecking the "first part of directory is Genre" and then checking the "Display Names" and it worked. For Some reason you can't have both options checked or the program will Crash. :(
Other than that it's everything I could ask for. Skinnability would be nice...but really if this bug were cleared up I'd be in love.
Allroy
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Holy Crap! I have just about given up on VMJ...this thing is SUPER SWEET. I had it working at work today and was FREAKING OUT! it's SO much faster and more configurable than VMJ....
So I got home and started messing with it more. I saw someone post earlier how you can set up the Genres and got that set up. FREAKIN SWEET! Then I realized I hadn't set an option that I HAD set on my Work PC. The "Display Track Names Not Codes In 'Track List'
BOOM, program crashed. Can't get it back up without editing the ini file. Tried it on my standalone Jukebox PC and it did the same thing. I tried unchecking the "first part of directory is Genre" and then checking the "Display Names" and it worked. For Some reason you can't have both options checked or the program will Crash. :(
Other than that it's everything I could ask for. Skinnability would be nice...but really if this bug were cleared up I'd be in love.
Allroy
I tried having both of those options on and it works fine. There must be some other option 'getting in the way'. Does it happen as soon as you open the program, or as soon as you select a genre?
Can you please e-mail me a .ini file in a state where you can't get the program loaded (address is in the readme.txt). That should help me, as well as giving me the actual error message that I can go off of.
SK.
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Actually, I think I've found the problem. It's loading up the songs that were in the list when you shut down the program, but that piece of code needed a small change done to it to make it fit in with the genres that I added a while back (you should be able to prove that out by deleting AutoSave.m3u and seeing if you can then get into the program).
Now, on the point of an update, you may have noticed there has been no update from me in quite some time. This is due in no small part to a personal tragedy that I won't go into here, not only that but work has got me frazzled, and home life has been hectic. Basically I've been stressed to the max!! :-\
Time for a comeback! I have a nice list of features that I have been adding to over the last couple of months as they have been requested, so I will plug away at them over the weekend. I will post an update Monday morning, even if I achieve everything on the list or not.
SK.
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Have I told you lately that I love you?
It's not when I load the program per-say. It's when I make the change and then save it. As soon as it saves it crashes. Then subsequently every time I open the program.
I'll still e-mail you the ini file.
Thanks a million!
Allroy
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You are 100% right. If I delete that m3u file it works and as long as there is no next song (but there usually is because I use random a lot) it will load up again next time.
so, just to verify....you're on the right track. I can't wait until Monday. :)
Allroy
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I will post an update Monday morning, even if I achieve everything on the list or not.
Damn, I knew I shouldn't have said that! lol
I'm half way through finishing off the color customization (at last!), and want to finish that off before I release the update. If I don't get time tonight, it will be a few days before I will have time to spend on it! :'(
Oh well, I'll see how I go with it. :)
SK.
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hey, at least you replied...I've been up all night waiting to hear something. :)
Not really ;)
Allroy
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As this is the best jukebox program out there for my needs AND free as well I'm happy to take the update whenever it comes (looking forward to it though)
Thanks again for all your hard work
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Hello SalmonKing
thank you for your superb software.
I use it recently.
How to to use your software with single title?. I have hundreds single titles with their covers.
The covers have the same name as the file .mp3
(Ex. Green Day - American idiot.mp3 and Green Day - American idiot.jpg)
How to listen only one single title and see its cover without making a folder with 1 mp3 and its cover?
thank you for your answer.
This text was translated from French into English by Babel fish because I don't speak English very well...
thank you for your answer
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I don't want to sound like a pushy son of a ---smurfette--- but how's it going on that update? :D
Allroy
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How to listen only one single title and see its cover without making a folder with 1 mp3 and its cover?
Unfortunatly, the only way currently IS to have them in seperate folders.
It would be quite a bit of work for me to achieve what you are asking, but I could put it on the list of things to look at over the coming months.
SK.
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I don't want to sound like a pushy son of a ---auto-censored--- but how's it going on that update? :D
Allroy
haha.....still working on it, I'm afraid. I don't get much of a chance to work on it these days, and I missed my 'window of opportunity'. As such, a few things were half done, and I didn't really want to release it in that state.
Weekend's coming up, though...... ;)
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This isn't a "jab" at SK or Chris, but how come you guys don't open source the Juke software? Surely there are lots of people that would like to help out with development.
In the meantime, I'm a happy user of SK jukebox ;D
Art
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Again, I don't want to sound pushy or selfish but how about that problem I found with the First Directory is Genre & Show Track Name instead of numbers both checked? That's my biggest concern. Other than that the program is PERFECT for me.
I'm very excited to have found this program. I feel stupid now for having paid for the software I'm not going to use.
hehehe..this one is just better!!
Thanks
Allroy
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This isn't a "jab" at SK or Chris, but how come you guys don't open source the Juke software?
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Unfortunatly, the only way currently IS to have them in seperate folders.It would be quite a bit of work for me to achieve what you are asking, but I could put it on the list of things to look at over the coming months.SK.
ok thx for your answer....
i will wait.... ;D
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Again, I don't want to sound pushy or selfish but how about that problem I found with the First Directory is Genre & Show Track Name instead of numbers both checked? That's my biggest concern. Other than that the program is PERFECT for me.
Yep, I fixed that, but I've said that I'm half way through a couple of other changes that I want to finish before releasing. If you want to get around it in the meantime, untick the 'Restore Queue When Loading Program' or whatever I called it.
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Part of the reason is because I already spend a great deal of time doing end-user support; the support requirements would get much higher doing developer support. Another part is that I'd have to spend a lot of time and work to make all the code pretty and organized enough for public consumption. Part of it is that I just don't want to lose control of where it's going and what its focus is, or see someone add a bunch of true commercial features like cash flow audits and start putting it in real jukeboxes and selling it.
I think I've been pretty good about getting most of the features people want into it. Perhaps when I decide I'm done with it, I'll go through the effort to make it fit for public consumption. But for now, I'd prefer to keep this project in my hands. I apologize if that sounds selfish.
--Chris
Pretty much ditto here. I have put alot of time & effort into the program, and it's my baby. I keep track of the suggestions made for the program, and I will look at them in due course. If something is viable to achieve, I WILL investigate it at some point.
It's not about getting the job done, it's about the challenge of getting it done. That's what makes this sort of project good fun. I'm sure alot of the other juke developers program in their day to day goings on in a business environment. I am one of those, and coding in something fun like SKJB is like a coding holiday, where I don't HAVE to worry about 'is this feature going to sell?' or 'could this harm someone's data if we change this?'.
Like Chris, I'm not being selfish about it, I just don't want to at this point in time (and don't foresee a time where I will, either).
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I Know you guys aren't being selfish.
It never occured to me someone might use it commercially.
Again, just wondering, and I'll take this chance to say thanks again.
Art
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Yep, I fixed that, but I've said that I'm half way through a couple of other changes that I want to finish before releasing. If you want to get around it in the meantime, untick the 'Restore Queue When Loading Program' or whatever I called it.
FANTASTIC! That's almost as good as being fixed for me! Thanks a million!
Allroy
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hey pretty nice jukebox program, keep going , nice work
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Updated to version 2.5.0 !!!
Enjoy! ;D
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hmm...it appears that if you check those same 2 boxes I mentioned before it goes berzerk in Random mode and starts picking songs from other genres and eventually crashes. Even though it shows the next song it's going to play will be from a different genre, if it doesn't crash, it will play another song from the correct genre. but it will eventually crash.
So I changed it back and now it shows the next track will be the current. I don't care about that, but I thought you should know.
still a great program. :)
Allroy
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hmm...it appears that if you check those same 2 boxes I mentioned before it goes berzerk in Random mode and starts picking songs from other genres and eventually crashes. Even though it shows the next song it's going to play will be from a different genre, if it doesn't crash, it will play another song from the correct genre. but it will eventually crash.
So I changed it back and now it shows the next track will be the current. I don't care about that, but I thought you should know.
still a great program. :)
Allroy
Download http://www.mameworld.net/skjukebox/updates/SKJukeboxDebug_v250.zip and
If you can reproduce the error, post the full message here so I can figure it out. I don't recall changing any of that functionality, so I don't really know what could be going wrong.
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Error 9
Subscript out of range
Location: SK_Jukebox.modMain.UpdateQueueList
Line 423
That's all.
hope it helps.
Allroy
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Error 9
Subscript out of range
Location: SK_Jukebox.modMain.UpdateQueueList
Line 423
That's all.
hope it helps.
Allroy
Thanks, put me right on the correct track.
Version 2.5.1 Released! ;)
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You're a God among men sir!
the Crashing seems to be gone..the only problem now is (for example) it says the next song will be 0706 Box - but the next song actually is...1901 5 Year Itch
Now that 1901- "5 Year Itch" is playing it says the next track will be 1901 "giving up on love" - but its actually...3614 - "Whoops I OD'd"
Now that 3614 "whoops I OD'd" is playing it says the next track will be 3614 "The Innocent"
"the Innocent" should be 2814
I can't find any rhyme or reason as to where it's getting the title of the song.
It says the current track NUMBER is the next one in the play list, it randomly grabs a title from the (correct/current) genre. then it skips to a completly random track....
odd, eh?
Allroy
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So, just to clarify, the track NUMBER is correct, but the title is not? That seems to be what you're saying, so I assume that's right! I can't see any reason for this to happen, though ???
I also found a small issue with that mode of viewing the queue : I added 'click to remove the item from the queue', but it does not work correctly with the track names showing rather than the track numbers. (Note, I have fixed this problem now, but will try & sort out this other issue you're having before putting out an update)
Also note, that the first item in the queue is the currently playing song, NOT the next song.
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Also note, that the first item in the queue is the currently playing song, NOT the next song.
Oops..I thought it would show the next track....
So then yes, you're right, the number is correct but the title is wrong. Seems redundant to have it over there though...it's already on the right of the screen in a larger font ;)
So I guess it's good to go! :D
Thanks!
Allroy
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no, under track list it shows the current track followed by a random title that won't be the next song played. ???
Allroy
As I said (in my edited post, so you may have entered this when I was editing), the item that is appearing in the queue is the CURRENT song. It does not pick a random song until it gets to the end of the current one, see that there's nothing in the queue, and sees that it's in random mode.
So, it looks like to me that the song NUMBER is correct, it's just getting the song title from somewhere else. ???
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DOH! I just noticed that the current track is "innocent girl" but over there it shows "mistress for christmas" from a different genre.
I say just get rid of that display over there because it shows properly on the right..to the right of the Small album or wave file etc....but that's me. :)
Allroy
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Holy crap! it's worse than I thought...It's not just the current track that's wrong.
I just added (manually obviously) 3 more tracks and all 3 of them have the right track number but they've ALL got the wrong Title. ???
confusing...
Allroy
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DOH! I just noticed that the current track is "innocent girl" but over there it shows "mistress for christmas" from a different genre.
I say just get rid of that display over there because it shows properly on the right..to the right of the Small album or wave file etc....but that's me. :)
Allroy
What happens when you queue up tracks manually? Does it add the right title to the list? There should be absolutly no difference between them, but I want to make sure. I cannot fault it here, unfortunatly.
As for getting rid of the info on the left, let's get this right first! When that's working, I'll look at adding an 'exclude current song from queue' option. ;)
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allroy1975 & I took the issue into PM's, so we weren't clogging up the board. Turns out it was simply me not updating the page correctly, as it was still pointing to the 2.5.0 update, not 2.5.1 ::) :-[ :'( ;D
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Thanks for the upgrade, no the balance is cured I can turn on my jukebox without having to skip the first song so I can choose exactly the best song to show it off.
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OK I have tried everything to install this, I have installed it on my main Computer perfectly fine. I go to install on my Cabinet and everytime it hangs when it gets to installing the file: amp3dj.ocx I've got the VB runtimes installed from the site. and have tried everything under the sun to get this to work on the arcade system. Both systems run the same OS windows XP, so I'm truly at a loss here. Other than that this program rocks and does everything I'd want and more. If anyone knows a trick let me know.
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hmmmm...it shouldn't be a problem, AFAIK.
You could try searching your PC to see if that file already exists. Does the installer hang truly, or will it continue / give a message if you let it go for a few seconds?
Other than that, the help for that control DOES mention OLEAUT32.DLL & OLEPRO32.DLL as being potential problems, but the VB runtime package should contain the right versions of those (the file comes from MS, I didn't create it).
Failing all of that, let me know and I could put together an installer that doesn't try & register that control, in case that gets around it. The program may then crash, however, but it might point us to the full issue.
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so OLEPRO32.DLL is version 5.1.2600.2180
and OLEPRO32.DLL is version 5.1.2600.2180
I thought it may just be taking a while to register everything, but I let it sit for more than an hour, it doesn't get any further than Extract: amp3dj.ocx 100%, I even tried copying over all the files in the Directory on the computer it works on, but I'm thinking some other files also have to be registered... I could maybe try registering with the regserv32 command. I can try installing with out registering the activeX controller, and see if it continues on or not.
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Couple of things :
Are you logged in with administrator rights? If not, perhaps something is getting stuck when trying to register.
If that's not it, I have created a new installer that simply skips the registering of that file. Now, it is the first file in the list, so perhaps it's going to get stuck on the file after this one :
http://www.mameworld.net/skjukebox/install/SKJukeboxInstall-rgecko.zip
If you have the file there, definately try registering it manually with regsvr32. It will probably point to a deeper issue (like admin rights, etc). Simply copying over the directory from your other PC should work (i.e no need to run the installer after that, just copy the lot), with a handful of regsvr32 calls.
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Yup this users is set as Admin... I also tried creating a new user with Admin privileges to install it. That user also fails at the same point. Also WindowsXP Pro (don't think I mentioned Pro Earlier)
the new installer installs OK with on error: during install it extracts ImagXpr6.dll but then says "Could not load: C: Program Files\SK Jukebox\ImagXpr6.dll" everything else seems to register OK. Allthough I can manually register this dll. the amp3dj.ocx control won't register manually either, it just seems to hang and regsvr32 stays in Task Manager
Also tried running the original Install program as Administrator, and that also fails.
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OK, I'll contact the authors of that control to see what they come up with.
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Acutally, another look at the help mentions FOUR files (I've already mentioned 2 of them) :
WINMM.DLL
MSACM32.DLL
OLEAUT32.DLL
OLEPRO32.DLL
I know the ones on my PC work fine, so I've zipped up my copies & put them here :
http://www.mameworld.net/skjukebox/install/rgecko-dlls.zip
Don't overwrite them straight away, though, just check if you have different versions. Make a copy of any that you need to overwrite. Other than that, I'm out of ideas! ???
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Ok I'm starting to think it's something wrong with the OS installation on this PC... I'll probably re-image it and try again... Thanks for the help and awsome program SalmonKing!
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dp you notice a speed difference in browsing? I would think that pulling offf the CD images off a network has got to slow you down?
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Dear Salmonking, congratulations and thank you very much for the great jukebox software SK.
I have just one suggestion for now:
When we press jump button, a small screen open with the letter "A", it would be possible pressing a letter and it jump to this letter?
Thanks.
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Dear Salmonking, congratulations and thank you very much for the great jukebox software SK.
I have just one suggestion for now:
When we press jump button, a small screen open with the letter "A", it would be possible pressing a letter and it jump to this letter?
Thanks.
You know, I thought the same thing just the other day!
I'll add it to the list to add an option to use whatever letter you press (will only go 1 - 9 and A - Z, but I think that should be acceptable!)
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Am I missing something or is this not skinnable/tinker-able?
The lower section where the song selection area is located is too large for me, and making it smaller would allow more songs to be displayed in each area.
If I could tinker with this myself, I'd dig it, but I just don't see it somewhere. Can you open my eyes? I think I've been at this too long today with my mind on other subjects ::)
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hit O for options. Right clicking anywhere in the program will show this option.
Hope that helps.
Allroy
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Yeah, I tried that but it didn't let me change what I wanted to change.
The area under the album "pages" is way too fat for my taste and if I can skin it, I can change that to be a bit thinner. That way, album art could be either enlarged, or the text for longer song titles could be moved to the left allowing it to fit.
Thanks for the suggestion though. I'm giving up for today....on every program :P and gonna get some sleep. Tomorrow's another day for frustration
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I dont think it is skinnable.
Art
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Does anyone know how to print a list of directories that don't have cover art? maybe an Excel macro or something?
Be cool if SK could output a file or something.
Thanks, Art
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If you have WinCab jukebox handy, run it with DebugLevel set to 3 and you'll get a debug log that has the information you're looking for.
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Of course, this only helps if WinCab and SK Jukebox use the same rules to find cover art, so now that I think about it this probably isn't helpful.
Ah.. I found SK Jukebox's rules earlier in the thread.
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Thanks Chris. I downloaded your latest update over the weekend. I really like the CD Skin. I can look for just those errors. THANKS again.
Art
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Does anyone know how to print a list of directories that don't have cover art?
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If Chris' solution doesn't work, I can put together some sort of excel macro to do this type of thing, but it will be a couple days until I can get to it.
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Does anyone know how to print a list of directories that don't have cover art? maybe an Excel macro or something?
Be cool if SK could output a file or something.
Thanks, Art
I have little features like that in the program already, just don't have them active in a release version ;)
I might add something for the next version. My version also lists anything that is not 500 * 500 (my preference), so that comes in handy. If I make it available for everyone, I would make that settable, of course.
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Yeah, I tried that but it didn't let me change what I wanted to change.
The area under the album "pages" is way too fat for my taste and if I can skin it, I can change that to be a bit thinner. That way, album art could be either enlarged, or the text for longer song titles could be moved to the left allowing it to fit.
Thanks for the suggestion though. I'm giving up for today....on every program :P and gonna get some sleep. Tomorrow's another day for frustration
What would you want to make it smaller?
That area of the screen is not resizable for a reason, and that's because it's VERY fiddly, and would be a little bit of a nitemare to make it resize dynamically. That's why I asked the question I did....if you say 'I don't need the Paused / Random / Credits information', I could make the program remove those bits of information and resize the box accordingly. Also, I would need to remove a line in the song queue listing.
SK.
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I might add something for the next version. My version also lists anything that is not 500 * 500 (my preference), so that comes in handy.
what is 500 * 500? :-\
Art
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I might add something for the next version. My version also lists anything that is not 500 * 500 (my preference), so that comes in handy.
what is 500 * 500? :-\
Art
The X & Y pixel size (width & height) of the image. I like mine at that resolution, as it gives a good balance between quality & resource usage (my jukebox PC is a P3 800 with 512mb of RAM).
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My version also lists anything that is not 500 * 500 (my preference), so that comes in handy.
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I was also wondering if you have ever considered adding a simple cd player to your jukebox program. When I build my jukebox, I'd like to have a cd-rom drive accessible from the front so it will play cd's as well as mp3s.
It's definately something to think about, and I know I can do it using the control I currently play the MP3's with. That would be the ideal option, as it wouldn't require anything other controls. However, I can't do it with the VERSION of the control I currently have, so would need to upgrade (which means quite a few $'s more. I have thought about upgrading for things like being able to present the user with an equalizer, or perhaps crossfading, both of which I could do if I could upgrade the control).
Of course, there would be ways to do it WITHOUT any controls at all, but that means I would need to 'talk' to something else for things like play, stop, pause, get the song lenth & current position, etc. Then, how to incorporate that into the application. Just show it as an extra album with a nice picture of a CD as the album art, or have a seperate dedicated section for it?
All food for thought! :D
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Of course, there would be ways to do it WITHOUT any controls at all, but that means I would need to 'talk' to something else for things like play, stop, pause, get the song lenth & current position, etc.
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It's definately something to think about, and I know I can do it using the control I currently play the MP3's with.
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The standard thing to talk to in this case would be Media Player. I'm working on doing the same thing in WinCab, although more for legal reasons than technical reasons. (In the US at least, MP3 decoding algorithms are patented, and the library I'm using is a freeware one that hasn't paid the licensing fees. By using WMP, we're not shipping any MP3 code in our apps and thus not infringing the patent.
The other alternative (and the way I would probably go) is to use the winmm.dll through its mciSendString function, but things could get really ugly that way. I'm sure someone would have written a nice layer on top of that, though, if not, I'd write one.
Of course, that would be a moot point if I could upgrade, as the 'Pro' version of the MP3 control has CD playing built in.
However, I don't want to start a 'charity drive', I'm just stating facts!
That's trickier, because you have to go out to FreeDB or something to get the track names, or just show them as "Track 1", "Track 2", etc.
That's what I was thinking. It will be easy to just display the number of tracks on the CD as 'Track 01', etc. However, I know that won't be good enough.....lol! That's not a bad thing, I suppose, as it helps the program develop nicely, but it would be nice to see less of the 'hey, I love the program, but......' messages ;)
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If Chris' solution doesn't work, I can put together some sort of excel macro to do this type of thing, but it will be a couple days until I can get to it. But I need to get to it so I can figure out what covers I'm missing too.
GadgetGeek:
I'd love to see an excel macro. My computers must be too slow to use the wincab function properly. I have 1100+ albums, and I've never had the patience to let it finish.
Thanks.
Art
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[GadgetGeek:
I'd love to see an excel macro.
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We will see what this weekend brings...I've not thought this through too far yet. I'm probably going to assume that the albums are laid out in artist/album/track directory structure with the covers under the album directory with track. Did my id3 tag info macro work ok on your machine?
I've never tried your id3 tag macro. I'm artist/album/track directory.
Work this weekend. You've got something better to do? :laugh:
Thanks, Art
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Work this weekend.
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One more feature request! (Pain in the butt aint I? heh) Would it be possible to have a key mapped to remove the last song from the playlist? I know you can do it with the playlist editor but it would be nice if users could push a button instead of me having to haul out the mouse.
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SalmonKing just wanted to let you know I got around to reinstalling windows and everything installed OK this time.... my issues a couple weeks ago must have been with an OS problem, thanks for the help and the awesome program.
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One more feature request! (Pain in the butt aint I? heh) Would it be possible to have a key mapped to remove the last song from the playlist? I know you can do it with the playlist editor but it would be nice if users could push a button instead of me having to haul out the mouse.
I don't see a problem with that at all, leave it with me! :)
Don't expect it at regular 'SK Speed', though, other projects are keeping me more than busy at the moment! ;)
Give it a couple of weeks, I should be able to put an update online in that time.
SK.
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SalmonKing just wanted to let you know I got around to reinstalling windows and everything installed OK this time.... my issues a couple weeks ago must have been with an OS problem, thanks for the help and the awesome program.
Good to hear! I hate those strange ones that don't make any sense.....experience makes me put them down to the OS / confilicting software / bad hardware.....couldn't be MY code at fault, at least in this case it was! lol ;D
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Wow, great software! I'm hoping to test it out at our block party is a couple of weeks.
My only problem is that all of my .mp3's are named <track#> - <Artist> - <Album> - <Track Name>.mp3 I've used 2 different rippers that named files this way, but it's not exactly supported by your software.(The song titles almost all scroll off the screen). If things go well at the party I might consider a mass renaming of my files to work with your software(& will paypal you some $$$), but a nice feature would be a more flexible way to parse the file names.
i.e. Here's how realplayer(I know) works:
(http://img162.echo.cx/img162/2545/naming2wd.jpg)
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rename them! I had to do my whole 60+ gb collection. It took a while but with tools like Tag & Rename it goes pretty quick and it's not too bad once you use them in the new format for a while. :)
Allroy
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What do you all do for tracks that don't really belong to a CD? For instance, I have a whole folder dedicated to one-off remixes that I've collected. If you generally use the <track#> - <track name> format do you just put a dummy value in front of it?
i.e. "Don't Make Me Destroy You(Mix).mp3" becomes "XX - Don't Make Me Destroy You(Mix).mp3" ?
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eh...I only have records! I guess you can make a fake CD out of it and give the tracks numbers...I dunno.
Sorry. ???
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What do you all do for tracks that don't really belong to a CD?
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Yup, thanks!
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Hail to the (Salmon) King - Brilliant app, many thanks for all your hard work (yep, I'm a donor)
Is it possible to tweak the screensaver? I'd love to be able to set the album artwork and song/album/artist test a bit bigger (about twice its current size)..
Cheers,
Brett
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I was just thinking about the screen saver...I was wondering if (as a screensaver option) instead of saving the "whole" screen, it could just start shuffling through albums. you know? kind of like an attract mode for a video game.
I think that would be cool. But...maybe I'm the only one who thinks that. :-[
Allroy
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Hail to the (Salmon) King - Brilliant app, many thanks for all your hard work (yep, I'm a donor)
Is it possible to tweak the screensaver? I'd love to be able to set the album artwork and song/album/artist test a bit bigger (about twice its current size)..
Cheers,
Brett
One of the things I'm looking at is this very thing. I wanted to get the visualizations into the screen saver as well, but it doesn't look like that's possible, unfortunatly.
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Sweeet ;D
Re: the visualisations - I guess another approach to that might be calling a 3rd party app (eg WinAmp or WMP) as your player, from SK Jukebox. No idea how much effort that entails though.. I'd be more than happy with the tweaked screensaver thing :)
Cheers,
Brett
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Sweeet ;D
Re: the visualisations - I guess another approach to that might be calling a 3rd party app (eg WinAmp or WMP) as your player, from SK Jukebox. No idea how much effort that entails though.. I'd be more than happy with the tweaked screensaver thing :)
Cheers,
Brett
Been there, done that :-\ ;)
I used WMP 7, 8 and 9 before giving up on it. I looked extensivly at WinAmp as well, but decided against it. Call me old fashioned, but when writing a program, I like to have as much control over what is going on as possible, and I just didn't feel like I was in control when using these programs. It might do for some people, I just didn't get along with it.
Changing engines would take at least a day or 2 solid effort, and I did that 4 times. I'm not going through that again, either, unless I have no choice.
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Heheh you fascist ;)
Nah seriously, I agree its not worth the effort!
Cheers,
Brett
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First off, I have to be the next to tell you how great this progam is... Absolutely BRILLIANT!!
A little history and then a question:
I was duped by the flash of VMJ and actually paid for it twice by accident (still have never received a refund for that one >:(). The program did what I wanted it to but was so damned buggy that it just wouldn't run reliably without crashing (even on my higher spec machine so I doubt it would have ever run on my juke). I also wasn't real impressed with the way the option screen was presented. Just seemed really amatuer. So, I had to move on...
And move on I did, to JB Sim. This was (and still is) a GREAT jukebox program. It does what it says it does, very reliably. The program is very simple and super stable and only has one bug I am aware of (not even a bug, really). It won't play a song that has a comma in the file name due to the scripting the author uses to control the mp3 decoder (or something like that). Easy enough to work around so I was using it and very happy with it until my wife started to show real interest in my jukebox (once completed). It was missing one feature that I was really after that the author said he was planning to work on. Genre sorting. My wife (and daughter) really wanted a way to seperate their music from mine. I was patient, for a while... I was still waiting, hoping I could remain a loyal JB Sim user, when I decided to heed the advice of some of posters in this topic and try SK Jukebox. Man, am I impressed! Sorry Lawrence, I am moving on again. I registered JB Sim with the author and still have great faith it that programs abilities. It just works. It's not very feature rich, but I still think it might be THE BEST choice, maybe the only choice, if your jukebox has a "low spec" PC installed in it. By design, it requires very little resources. Which brings me to my question(s).
The PC I have installed in my jukebox is a P3 550 with internal video and only 128MB of RAM. JB Sim ran just fine on this and SK Jukebox does run but I am noticing some performance issues with regard to the animation (kinda jerky). My initial testing of this program was done on a P4 3.2 GHz with 512MB RAM and an ATI 64MB video card. Man, does it sail on that. I especially liked the "animate jump" feature on that machine! Talk about some flying images. I know SK has stated that he has a P3 800 with 512MB of RAM. That is not much faster than my machine but it is considerably more memory than I have. He also has stated in this thread that he has a pretty good video card installed. I am wondering if, in the authors opinion, I would get any better animation performance by adding a better video card to the mix than the onboard video? I think I have a PCI ATI 16MB card that might do the trick laying about. Or am I going to also need to increase the amount of RAM I have? I should also mention that I am running Windows XP Pro. I was also thinking I might get better performance by switching to Win 98SE. Didn't really want to do that as I like XP's stability and superior networking abilities, but I do have a copy of 98SE I could use.
Just as a side note, I was getting an occassional crash when using 2.5.0 on this setup. It seemed to happen mostly when the end of one song and the beginning of another was starting. Also, when I hit O to get the options screen, it would crash everytime. I was thinking it might be because of the low spec on the machine but I applied the update to 2.5.3 and it hasn't happened again yet.
Any thoughts or ideas on the above would be appreciated. Thanks very much for providing us all with a great program, free of charge, no less. This program ROCKS!
Bumble
Attaching a pic of my juke for reference... Thanks again!
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is that a clean XP install? Like..how long have you been using it? is it your old dektop that was just cleaned up and thrown in the Juke, or did you format and reinstall?
I've been running it on a Sempron for a while (obviously pretty quick Processor) and and old Geforce 2 video card (again, not really skimpy) but the program is rock solid. I've never had it crash when it's running. I've made settings changes to the app that caused it to wig out and crash, but that was reported and SK fixed it. :)
Anyway, seems to me that a crash is probably something else on the box and not SKJ or hardware. But I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Allroy
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I would deifinitly put a better card in there. I was using a 2mb video card, and the animation was terrible. I put in a nicer card (64mb AGP), and after a little tweaking of the animation timing, it works great. I can't get the full screen animation working at a reasonable speed, though, which is a shame.
If all you have is a 16mb PCI, I would absolutly pop that in. Put the animation speed way up to the top & let me know if it works well enough! I can't really do much, except make it so you can set the animation timing higher than currently allowed.
If it is still really bad, I'm afraid there's not much I can do, so animation may have to be turned off :'(
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is that a clean XP install? Like..how long have you been using it? is it your old dektop that was just cleaned up and thrown in the Juke, or did you format and reinstall?
I've been running it on a Sempron for a while (obviously pretty quick Processor) and and old Geforce 2 video card (again, not really skimpy) but the program is rock solid. I've never had it crash when it's running. I've made settings changes to the app that caused it to wig out and crash, but that was reported and SK fixed it. :)
Anyway, seems to me that a crash is probably something else on the box and not SKJ or hardware. But I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Allroy
Yeah, it was a totally clean, minimalist install. This machine has no CD-ROM drive or floppy. Has only one 27GB hard drive which will be swapped to a 200 or 250 when finances permit.
Regarding the crashes, the Windows event log made reference to a module that was part of the SKJ executable. I screen capped one of the event log errors in case Sk wanted to see it. As I said, this error has not bothered me again since I upgraded to 2.5.3 Error attached if interested.
Bumble
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I would deifinitly put a better card in there. I was using a 2mb video card, and the animation was terrible. I put in a nicer card (64mb AGP), and after a little tweaking of the animation timing, it works great. I can't get the full screen animation working at a reasonable speed, though, which is a shame.
If all you have is a 16mb PCI, I would absolutly pop that in. Put the animation speed way up to the top & let me know if it works well enough! I can't really do much, except make it so you can set the animation timing higher than currently allowed.
If it is still really bad, I'm afraid there's not much I can do, so animation may have to be turned off :'(
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No worries about what you can or cannot do for me. You've already done us all a big favor by making this software and making it available to everyone who wants it for free. We all owe you a big hand for that alone. And then you go and throw in great tech support in getting problems solved. I couldn't ask for anything more. I was just looking for opinions on what might make this thing perform better with the hardware I have. If it comes to it, I will save up and buy something better to toss in there. I am just a strong believer in putting older hardware that's no longer useful elsewhere to work before discarding it just because it's old or slow.
I just checked the specs and model of the built in video on that board. It's an 8MB nVidia Riva TNT, which is better than I expected it to be. Was expecting 4MB. I lowered the color depth to 16bit instead of the 32bit max it was set at and that seemed to help a little. I also found some more PC100 memory that this board uses so I am now running 256MB of RAM. That seems to have helped as well. The animation is a lot smoother than it was. I am thinking if I can find that 16MB ATI card, that might just give it the mojo it needs to make the transitions fluid.
Oh, and regarding the error I posted in the last response. Don't feel that you need to jump right on that or anything. As I said, it's running fine now with the update installed. I put that up in case you were curious and wanted to take a look-see at what it was doing. I know how you programmers are about your code...
Thanks for the responses. I'll advise if that 16MB card makes the difference (if and when I can find the darn thing).
Cheers!
Bumble
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Well, I never did find that 16MB card. I know it's around here somewhere (unless I gave it away and forgot - anyone else do that?). But I did make some headway. I mentioned in the last post that I added 128MB and decreased color depth to 16bit. I also thought I had increased the animation speed to max but I was fiddling with the controls the other day and noticed that it was set to default. I must have tried that before adding the memory & decreasing bit depth and found it not to work so I put it back and forgot I did.
Anyway, I cranked it to max and now it's very passable on the 8MB that the card has available. The "animate jumps" option still won't fly as too many pics are moving too fast for the card to keep up but I feel that it's working for the typically uses good enough until I can scare up funds to upgrade. This probably won't happen for a while. The next upgrade to this thing HAS TO BE A BIGGER HARD DRIVE!!! 27GB is just not enough for all my music plus my wife and daughters music. Not even close.
So, for now, it's working great! Thanks again, SK.
Bumble
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I was just thinking last night how someone needs to bust SK's chops about getting out a new version. ;)
Not really, but any time frame?
Allroy
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I was just thinking last night how someone needs to bust SK's chops about getting out a new version. ;)
Not really, but any time frame?
Allroy
The time frame is when I get time to sit down & work on it, then get everything I've been wanting to get done for weeks working. Considering I haven't even been able to open the code in a few weeks, who knows? Maybe this weekend, maybe next month?
Putting down an estimated time is stupid, as all the best intentions in the world won't make me less busy ;)
Anyway, I have HOPES of getting something out this month, and I'll certainly do that if I get the time. Otherwise, how long is a piece of string? ;D
SK.
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Just a little bit of progress info, so you know the program is not dead or abandoned!
Being the end of the financial year here, that means as the creator of accounting software, my company is extremely busy at this time. Couple that with the fact that the start of the financial year is a time when alot of companies now have a fresh year, and a fresh budget to go along with that. This means it's the time of the year alot of our customers look at what they have and ask for additions / changes, etc.
Anyway, that should give you an insight into why I have been quiet for a while now. On to the good stuff! .......
I have been playing with a piece of code that has been requested several times now, that is utilizing the ID3 tags from within MP3 files. It's working very nicely now, although the speed is obviously a drop in what I'm used to with getting the info from the filesystem. When it's released, I would suggest ID3 be used with smaller collections or with the Static Database, so it doesn't have to open every file. Oh, I should mention that it is currently NOT looking for album art in the tags, and I won't do this unless I get enough requests to do it.
Also, here's a list of other things I will be working on, and want to finish before releasing an update :
- Have an option to turn off the album art in the '4 album' view, and pull the song list over to the left. This will make it easier for people with lower resolutions to be able to read what is on the album, and still have the album art showing when you bring it up in the full view.
- Add an option that makes the 2nd credit button put in a custom amount of credits, rather than hard coded at 3.
- Put in a '2 key jump', which will mean you bring up the current Scrollable Jump screen, but rather than scrolling to a letter & pressing Enter (or the Jump key, if you have that option set), if you press 'O', it will jump to that letter.
- If I get time, I would love to put in a 'Name That Tune' game that has been talked about on the boards.
- I upgraded the MP3 engine control to fix a couple of small issues, however there are still some rather bad issues in the current version. Seems it is locking CD / DVD drives whilst my program is open (i.e. while a reference to the control is there), so I am working with them to get that all working / fixed up.
Anyway, hope that gives you a little comfort that I haven't forgotten about the program.
SK.
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Thanks for the update!
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I have been playing with a piece of code that has been requested several times now, that is utilizing the ID3 tags from within MP3 files. It's working very nicely now, although the speed is obviously a drop in what I'm used to with getting the info from the filesystem. When it's released, I would suggest ID3 be used with smaller collections or with the Static Database, so it doesn't have to open every file.
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Will there be an option to turn off the ID3 tag usage altogether? I am happy with the way it works now and my database is not static (yet - still adding stuff all the time so I would live to leave it dynamic)?
Also, while I am here asking... Is there a way to disable the full screen album jump once you key in enough numbers to pick the album? Some of my users find it annoying (it actually scared one girl) plus the art for some of my albums is not that great and making them that large, they just look like %^#$. If the option is there, I haven't found it. Appologies if this is a bonehead question.
Thanks a million
Bumble
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Will there be an option to turn off the ID3 tag usage altogether? I am happy with the way it works now and my database is not static (yet - still adding stuff all the time so I would live to leave it dynamic)?
Also, while I am here asking... Is there a way to disable the full screen album jump once you key in enough numbers to pick the album? Some of my users find it annoying (it actually scared one girl) plus the art for some of my albums is not that great and making them that large, they just look like %^#$. If the option is there, I haven't found it. Appologies if this is a bonehead question.
Thanks a million
Bumble
Of course it will only be an option, and it will be OFF by default! I'm not putting all the work I did to 'clean up' my files to waste ;)
As for the 2nd part, do you have Mouse Support turned on? If so, there's an option a couple of ticks under that that will only display the full view if the album art is clicked on. hmmmm...actually, that's not going to work. The program will still want to display the full album if you type in the album number. OK, lemme think about it.
SK.
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Also, while I am here asking...
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I love the program. But I really need an option to set a limit to the track list. I know you can do it with the credit, but when you use freeplay, it
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I love the program. But I really need an option to set a limit to the track list. I know you can do it with the credit, but when you use freeplay, it
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Update online (well, it's uploading now, anyway...)
Didn't get everything I wanted done, but what I didn't get done wasn't exactly urgent.
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Thanks you very much SalmonKing !
I love your program !
I use your jukebox more than mame on my mamecab ;D
highly of other innovations
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:) Thanks..! Just what i need. Keep up the good work.
// Germo
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Quote from SalmonKing "As for existing the screensaver using the mouse, that was causing me problems when I first did it.
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Quote from SalmonKing "As for existing the screensaver using the mouse, that was causing me problems when I first did it. I believe the problem was that I was trying to make it exit with a mouse movement, but the program kept getting 'told' that the mouse had moved, even though it hadn't. I should be able to make it close with a mouse click, though! " End Quote
Did you ever get this to work? If so, I'm missing something.
It goes into the screen saver and I'm stuck there. I'm sooo close to getting this touchscreen juke going. any help?
Thanks
P.S. Don't mind the mess, Still under construction!
Never looked back at it, to be honest. I'll put this in the next version, to close the screen-saver if the screen is 'clicked' on :)
Looking good, by the way!
SK.
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Never looked back at it, to be honest.
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Salmon King,
I only download this program the other day and it's f@?k'n awesome and I can't believe I didn't download it much earlier, I bought Virtual Music Jukebox a while back but it's very buggy and this is a much more stable alternative. Anyway I just wanted to say thanks for all of your effort and let you know how much people like myself who can't program really appreciate people who put the time and effort in to writing a program and then freely share with others.
Just wondering what if any features you may add to the jukebox in the future?
Things I would love to see added if possible would be dual monitor support, videos, skinning, perhap some sort of random mode biased towards the most played songs.
Anyway without any of these requests it's still the best jukebox I've used. ;D
Well done!
Retro
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How about for the screen saver to be closed, the mouse has to move at least 5 pixels, or be clicked? That might solve your problem...
Not a bad idea at all, added that in.
In this case, PileDriver has a touch screen, so a click will suffice, but the more the merrier! ;D
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Thanks for helping out.
I'll just shut the screen saver off for now.
I'll be watching the the next release. :D
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Salmon King,
I only download this program the other day and it's f@?k'n awesome and I can't believe I didn't download it much earlier, I bought Virtual Music Jukebox a while back but it's very buggy and this is a much more stable alternative. Anyway I just wanted to say thanks for all of your effort and let you know how much people like myself who can't program really appreciate people who put the time and effort in to writing a program and then freely share with others.
Just wondering what if any features you may add to the jukebox in the future?
Things I would love to see added if possible would be dual monitor support, videos, skinning, perhap some sort of random mode biased towards the most played songs.
Anyway without any of these requests it's still the best jukebox I've used. ;D
Well done!
Retro
Thanks for the support! :)
As for features I want to add, they're all in the readme.txt...I think they're all covered in there.
Unfortunatly, all the features you have listed there are either in the 'very long term' list, or not even on there at all. :-\
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First, I want to say that this is a great program, I've been messing around with it for a couple of days and so far I think this might be on jukebox for my cab, I was just wondering (I might have missed it) is there an option to play an entire album, (with one click)
thanks for any help,
Jeff
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First, I want to say that this is a great program, I've been messing around with it for a couple of days and so far I think this might be on jukebox for my cab, I was just wondering (I might have missed it) is there an option to play an entire album, (with one click)
thanks for any help,
Jeff
Look for something along the lines of 'Display '00 All Tracks'' ;)
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Great program.
Under Display Settings,
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Great program.
Under Display Settings, Display Track Names Not Codes In 'Track List', Is that supposed to get rid of the numbers in the Track List? If so it doesn't seem to be working for me.
Also is there any way to scroll through the Albums just using one click and not the keyboard or Keypad?
Thanks
The Track Name option displays the track code + the track name. The other option simply displays the codes. I guess the wording of that option is a little misleading..... :-\
The only way to scroll through the albums is by using the keyboard or the on-screen Keypad, I'm afriad. Well, there's the scroll wheel support, but that's a little flaky at times.
SK.
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Salmonking,
first off great program!!!!! i think the best part is that my wife likes it,and she does'nt like anything that has to do with computers... ;) but is there any way to put a delay between songs playing randomly in screensaver mode so they don't play one after another? i did'nt see it in the options but thought maybe there was a way. or maybe it could be considered in a upcoming version. thanks and again skjuke is by far the best there is...........
gfly3
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Hello, I've been messing with SK Jukebox and it looks like a nice program. All of my CD's, approx 500, were ripped with Itunes. I have art work for most of my CD's from Amazon that I drug into place in Itunes. On SK Jukebox I have Utilize ID3 Tags and Use Static Data Base clicked on. When I update Data Base on some CD's nothing happens. I have to turn the program off and restart. Sometimes I get an error message, "run-time error 5, invalid procedure call or argument".
For most CD's it work fine, is SK Jukebox compatible with MP3's ripped on Itunes? SK Jukebox finds none of my artwork is there a way to make SK Jukebox it?
Thanks
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Hello, I've been messing with SK Jukebox and it looks like a nice program. All of my CD's, approx 500, were ripped with Itunes. I have art work for most of my CD's from Amazon that I drug into place in Itunes. On SK Jukebox I have Utilize ID3 Tags and Use Static Data Base clicked on. When I update Data Base on some CD's nothing happens. I have to turn the program off and restart. Sometimes I get an error message, "run-time error 5, invalid procedure call or argument".
For most CD's it work fine, is SK Jukebox compatible with MP3's ripped on Itunes? SK Jukebox finds none of my artwork is there a way to make SK Jukebox it?
Thanks
I also got error messages when I used the ID3 tag option, I also found that the program was a lot slower going through the albums so I don't use the ID3 tag support anymore.
As far as your artwork goes you'll need the picture of the album cover to be in your album directory, call it "folder.jpg" and it will show up. You would find that the album covers Itunes download will be of too poor a quality to display in SK Jukebox, I reckon you will need a resolution of at least 300x300 to look anygood, I use a resolution of 512x512 for most of my albums.
If you decide to download album covers I recommend you use "Album Cover Art Downloader".
This is the link: http://louhi.kempele.fi/~skyostil/projects/albumart/
(http://louhi.kempele.fi/~skyostil/projects/albumart/screenshot.png)
If you do get this program make sure you play around with the settings e.g.:
Make sure it saves the picture as a jpg, also you can configrue the size of the picture it saves, I do all mine at the 512x512 pixels option.
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Yep, of course using the MP3 Tags is going to be slower. It had to open every file rather than just go off the file name. That's why I suggested you only use it in conjunction with the static database, so it doesn't need to load the file every time you load the program.
Anyway, I did make a couple of changes to the ID3 code that should fix the run time error 5 issue. Expect an update in the next couple of days!
SK.
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Hello,
All of my album art that I downloaded from Amazon is still kept in a folder. All of the album names say what was on it when downloaded for example, B0002OERI0.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg.
Will I need to rename all of these individually? I was hoping that when I had put these in Itunes there would be a folder that named them correctly using ID3 Tags. Do you know where they are stored in Itunes? I don't want to download new album work again over a phone connection.
When I don't use ID3 in Sk Jukebox the artist album name are not correct. Would you still recommend that I use ID3 Tag Info and the static Data Base. Thanks a lot for the help.
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Hello,
All of my album art that I downloaded from Amazon is still kept in a folder. All of the album names say what was on it when downloaded for example, B0002OERI0.01._SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg.
Will I need to rename all of these individually? I was hoping that when I had put these in Itunes there would be a folder that named them correctly using ID3 Tags. Do you know where they are stored in Itunes? I don't want to download new album work again over a phone connection.
When I don't use ID3 in Sk Jukebox the artist album name are not correct. Would you still recommend that I use ID3 Tag Info and the static Data Base. Thanks a lot for the help.
As long as the .jpg file is stored in the same folder as the album, that should be fine. If you read the readme.txt, it explains how it will look for the album art. As long as it has a .jpg extension and is in the same folder, it will work. If you are unsure as to where they are stored, just search your HDD for .jpg files. I have a feeling, however, that it may have actually stored the image inside of the MP3 files themselves. I have never used Itunes before, so I don't know for sure.
As for the program showing you the wrong information when you are not using ID3, look at the naming options available in the Options screen. How I have mine setup are '\artist\album\xx - song.mp3', where xx is a 2 digit track number.
It's not hard to keep the albums named correctly with a program like Tag&Rename. I have a couple thousand albums that I easily manage.
Anyway, I am unsure as to how your albums are setup, but hopfully this info is enough to give you an idea on how to get the most out of the program.
SK.
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I also had problems with the app finding my folder.jpg files, regardless of the search rules published. I worked around the problem by copying folder.jpg to cover.jpg in all my album directories, and the program found these OK. I had a number of different *_large.jpg files as a result of using Itunes, windows media player, windows media centre and SKjukebox working on the same mp3 file collection which may have been confusing it.
Great jukebox program.
My wishlist would include full navigation by joystick alone (I am able to use a trackball as a mouse, so no big problem), and two buttons for up/down skipping a letter at a time rather than the jump function.
Keep up the good work. Paypal donation on the way.
Rob.
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Salmon King,
I have moticed the sound quality from your program sounds alot different than what comes from windows media player and some other jukebox programs! Try a song on yours and then play the same song through windows media player and you will see what i mean! Let me know what is going on. It just doesn't have the punch that the other programs have it sounds weak and low.
A few things that would be nice with your program is to add a EQ, make the program skinnable and a way to select between genres of music or select between librarys.
Thanks,
DigitalDj
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I have moticed the sound quality from your program sounds alot different than what comes from windows media player and some other jukebox programs!
You wouldn't happen to have an "Enhancement" plugin active in your Windows Media Player would you? Something like SRS WOW? If these other jukebox programs use the windows media player as there sound player, they are probably using any plugins you have active in your media player.
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No SRS Wow, no sound enhancing drivers, windows media player is raw. I guess there was a program conflict, Got it now!
Thanks
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SalmonKing, I have another feature request. I asked already in an old post, but I'd like to ask again (last time, promise).
If you follow the software forum, there is a lot of effort being put in adding "instructions" to MAME games while playing or just before launching, where you show a picture of your cabinet control panel and a label showing what each button does.
I'm doing the same for my cab and I already have a picture shoping the controls before launching SK jukebox, but SK jukebox is the least intuitive program to use on my cab, just because the cpanek is layed out for MAME, not for controlling a jukebox, so people often get confuse and forget which button does what.
I would like the ability to display the "cheat sheet" inside of SK jukebox. All it would have to do would be to display a picture full screen when a key is pressed, then go back to normal operation when either the same key, or any key, or whatever is pressed. You could do it when the pause key is hit or on a dedicated key.
There might be other ways to deal with it, like adding it somewhere to the browsing screen, but the picture might end up being too small.
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SalmonKing, I have another feature request. I asked already in an old post, but I'd like to ask again (last time, promise).
If you follow the software forum, there is a lot of effort being put in adding "instructions" to MAME games while playing or just before launching, where you show a picture of your cabinet control panel and a label showing what each button does.
I'm doing the same for my cab and I already have a picture shoping the controls before launching SK jukebox, but SK jukebox is the least intuitive program to use on my cab, just because the cpanek is layed out for MAME, not for controlling a jukebox, so people often get confuse and forget which button does what.
I would like the ability to display the "cheat sheet" inside of SK jukebox. All it would have to do would be to display a picture full screen when a key is pressed, then go back to normal operation when either the same key, or any key, or whatever is pressed. You could do it when the pause key is hit or on a dedicated key.
There might be other ways to deal with it, like adding it somewhere to the browsing screen, but the picture might end up being too small.
Then you'd need a screen to show what button to press to get help! lol
Anyway, you would come up with the picture, you just need a way of displaying it inside the program? eh, that's not a drama. I'll add it to the list.
SK.
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A few things that would be nice with your program is to add a EQ, make the program skinnable and a way to select between genres of music or select between librarys.
DigitalDj
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A few things that would be nice with your program is to add a EQ, make the program skinnable and a way to select between genres of music or select between librarys.
DigitalDj
In order....no can do, not going to do, and you can do already ;)
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Then you'd need a screen to show what button to press to get help! lol
Anyway, you would come up with the picture, you just need a way of displaying it inside the program? eh, that's not a drama. I'll add it to the list.
SK.
The hep screen is would be tied to the same key as all the other things on my cab, so users already know which button is the help button. I'm also thiking about stenciling a question mark on it.
Yes, everyone wanting to use this functionnality would need to provide a picture, SK Jukebox would not be expected to autogenerate it or anything.
Id did seem pretty easy, which is why I asked again.
Thanks and keep up the good work!
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What are the minmum requirements for the computer to run the software?
Why not make it skinnable?
How do i setup the librarys and what buttons are used to change between them. Also what is the max. albums and library's?
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SalmonKing
Thanks for the software...... it's fantastic, I been running it on my dedicated juke for a few months now. ( complete envy of everyone who sees it. )
I run your software thru my home entertainment system ( Audio & Plasma Screen ) with the CD cover screen saver feature. In order to get out of the screen saver, I need to hit a key on the keyboard ( spacebar I think). My aim is to run the program with the mouse only, so is there a way to come out of the screen saver by just using the mouse?
I don't want to not use the screensaver as I couldn't live with myself if I got screen burn in on my shiny new plasma.
Also while I'm at it.... has anyone seen a programable remote control that you can use thru your computer to replace the mouse/keyboard actions.
(That would kick ass.)
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There are plenty of "wireless mouse" remotes.
There are also several kinds of multimedia remotes, but I don't know much about them
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What are the minmum requirements for the computer to run the software?
Why not make it skinnable?
How do i setup the librarys and what buttons are used to change between them. Also what is the max. albums and library's?
I run my jukebox on a P3 800, with a decent AGP video card, and the performance is more than acceptable.
The better question to the skinning topic is : Why make it skinnable at all? The program is designed to be as simple as possible...adding 50 customizable graphical elements (or whatever it takes) to the screen would basically mean stripping down the entire interface & starting again. And I'm not going to do that. You can change the fonts/colours of basically everything, so that should give you enough to customize it to your liking.
As for genres, look at the directory options in the settings screen. You can tick a box that says 'First Part Of Directory Is Genre'. For example, if you have C:\Music, put all your Rock albums in C:\Music\Rock, all your Classical in C:\Music\Classical, etc. The program will then give you a choice of all the different 'genres' it finds, and you can switch genres at any time by pressing the key that is mapped to Switch Genres (look in the Key Mapping section).
SK.
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SalmonKing
Thanks for the software...... it's fantastic, I been running it on my dedicated juke for a few months now. ( complete envy of everyone who sees it. )
I run your software thru my home entertainment system ( Audio & Plasma Screen ) with the CD cover screen saver feature. In order to get out of the screen saver, I need to hit a key on the keyboard ( spacebar I think). My aim is to run the program with the mouse only, so is there a way to come out of the screen saver by just using the mouse?
I don't want to not use the screensaver as I couldn't live with myself if I got screen burn in on my shiny new plasma.
Also while I'm at it.... has anyone seen a programable remote control that you can use thru your computer to replace the mouse/keyboard actions.
(That would kick ass.)
Yes, moving or clicking the mouse gets you out of the screensaver.
I am looking at remotes at the moment, so if I manage to get it all up & running, I'll put the info on my site. I bought a Creative remote (that is on it's way as I type this) that I am HOPING will do the trick. I also found a couple of programs that will watch whatever COMM port the remote receiver is hooked up to, and will convert that signal to a keystroke & send it to whatever open program you choose. I have a touchscreen, programmable remote already, so then the only thing missing is a wireless remote extender, as the jukebox will be at the other end of the house (with the sound / pictures coming into the TV/receiver via RCA cables running thru my roof) ;)
Anyway, all that's left is to see what this remote receiver will be able to do, then get an extender in place.
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A few things that would be nice with your program is to add a EQ, make the program skinnable and a way to select between genres of music or select between librarys.
DigitalDj
If he's using this,
http://www.multimediasoft.com/amp3dj/screenshots.html
Which it looks like he is then adding an EQ is easy peasy. This is the same OCX ThePCJukebox uses i believe.
I like the album cover scrolling ;) I have just had a quick play, it does seem like it doesn't read ID3 tags correctly though as a couple of albums showed up as TRack01, Track02 etc but i know they are tagged.
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Yes, moving or clicking the mouse gets you out of the screensaver.
OK.. I must have something not clicked... because when I'm in screensaver, the movement or pressing of mouse keys will not do anything... the cursor moves of course... but in order to get back in the program I need to press a key on the keyboard.
So please tell me what I have setup wrong.
Because I have it connected to my entertainment system, I wish to do away with the keyboard all together.
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If he's using this,
http://www.multimediasoft.com/amp3dj/screenshots.html
Which it looks like he is then adding an EQ is easy peasy. This is the same OCX ThePCJukebox uses i believe.
I like the album cover scrolling ;) I have just had a quick play, it does seem like it doesn't read ID3 tags correctly though as a couple of albums showed up as TRack01, Track02 etc but i know they are tagged.
I am using the Light version (it's all I need), so Paypal me the $$$'s to upgrade it to the Professional version and I will add it when I get the time. $100 should cover it if I can talk them into an upgrade price. Either that, or just live without it :P
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OK.. I must have something not clicked... because when I'm in screensaver, the movement or pressing of mouse keys will not do anything... the cursor moves of course... but in order to get back in the program I need to press a key on the keyboard.
So please tell me what I have setup wrong.
Because I have it connected to my entertainment system, I wish to do away with the keyboard all together.
Which version are you using? Might have been that I fixed that after the version that's on the site.....if you're using the latest version and it's not working, wait for the next version & let me know if it fixes the issue or not.
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I'm running 2.6.1
i'll try thr 2.6.2 upgrade
Thanks
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If he's using this,
http://www.multimediasoft.com/amp3dj/screenshots.html
Which it looks like he is then adding an EQ is easy peasy. This is the same OCX ThePCJukebox uses i believe.
I like the album cover scrolling ;) I have just had a quick play, it does seem like it doesn't read ID3 tags correctly though as a couple of albums showed up as TRack01, Track02 etc but i know they are tagged.
I am using the Light version (it's all I need), so Paypal me the $$$'s to upgrade it to the Professional version and I will add it when I get the time.
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I could have so much to say about people writing software putting it out for everyone and then not wanting to improve it, i just gota keep my mouth shut.
I will say though if your going to have a mame cabinet for games then build a jukebox for music and ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- can the mame jukebox crap.
Saloman, i like what you have going with your software, but if you and VMJ would get together since you have dependabilty and VMJ has looks and professional layout you guys would have a great program. You guys need to put your pride aside and develope some great software for us users and maybe you guys could make some real profit from it.
Everybody is heading toward touch screen setups but that's not old true jukebox flare.
My two cents worth!
Kevin
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I'm sure SK will pipe in, but I felt I had to respond to some of your comments digitaldj.
I could have so much to say about people writing software putting it out for everyone and then not wanting to improve it, i just gota keep my mouth shut.
Jeez, have a little gratitude.
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Hmm ok, i didn't notice the difference as i use ACTIVE movie for my jukebox, but i just thought it was included. If i had a spare $100 i think i would use it to pay some of my bills so i guess you are stuck with lite. However you should have used that response in reply to the original question rather than saying you woul not include an EQ full stop
Enjoy
;D
I don't mean to be bitchy about it, but it IS my program, and I have put alot of work into it. If I choose not to add a requested feature, that's my right. The fact that it is already in the readme.txt is also a reason..... ;)
No Can Do : Working on cross-fading (Unfortunatly, too hard, so is now forgotten about)
*** EDIT : I could potentially do it with the new control, but would have to spend another $200 to upgrade to the 'Deluxe' version. Not going to spend that money for such a small option! ;)
Have an equalizer option to adjust the levels
*** See above, I can do this with an upgraded version, but not currently
HOWEVER, I do apologize for my post sounding a little abrupt. A simple explaination initially would have been better.
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I could have so much to say about people writing software putting it out for everyone and then not wanting to improve it, i just gota keep my mouth shut.
I will say though if your going to have a mame cabinet for games then build a jukebox for music and ---Cleavland steamer--- can the mame jukebox crap.
Saloman, i like what you have going with your software, but if you and VMJ would get together since you have dependabilty and VMJ has looks and professional layout you guys would have a great program. You guys need to put your pride aside and develope some great software for us users and maybe you guys could make some real profit from it.
Everybody is heading toward touch screen setups but that's not old true jukebox flare.
My two cents worth!
Kevin
Well, I hate replies like this, but here goes.
Excuse me? Not wanting to make improvements? How about reading the readme.txt then see if what you say holds water. Even though SKJB does everything I want it to, I *even still* am adding requested features to the program. Sure, development may have slowed down in recent months, but that's because the program is at a point where it's hardly unusable, and what's been requested is largely 'bells & whistles'. Just because out of the 3 things you asked me to do (in my own time with no cost to you), 1 is already in place, 1 I can't do and the other I have no desire at all for doing it, I get THIS sort of reply? Why don't you come around to my house & break all my windows just for the hell of it too?
And get together with VMJ? Not a chance. They are 2 totally seperate programs. What's this 'dependabilty' you are talking about? And, I have no desire to make money off of the program. I do this as a personal project that I feel like giving away.
Of course, there's the old addage : 'if you don't like it, don't use it'. Simple as that. Do NOT ---smurf--- about something you didn't pay for, nor put any work into yourself.
Oh, and the last part of your first line? Yeah, let's give that a try.
That is all, now let's move on with constructive things. I hate wasting my energy on crap like this, cause it's energy better spent elsewhere.
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I just didn't like your attitude in returning the message reply, you may want to work on that.
Read the the message about where i mention dependablility. It was a complement! I was just hoping you had those items on the list for improvement!
Geeesh Sorry!
You are right though shouldn't have wasted my time or yours you could have been programming!
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Read the the message about where i mention dependablility. It was a complement!
You are right though shouldn't have wasted my time or yours you could have been programming!
Well, was it hard for me to take something you said NOT as a compliment? lol.....
From my point of view, I read it as 'you depend on another program/etc for yours to run'. ;D
However, for the 'waste of time', I hope you are not being nasty! You've had your say, I've had mine, let's move on. If there's something constructive you want to suggest, I'm all ears. 8)
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Hmm ok, i didn't notice the difference as i use ACTIVE movie for my jukebox, but i just thought it was included. If i had a spare $100 i think i would use it to pay some of my bills so i guess you are stuck with lite. However you should have used that response in reply to the original question rather than saying you woul not include an EQ full stop
Enjoy
;D
I don't mean to be bitchy about it, but it IS my program, and I have put alot of work into it.
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Whoa! Sorry dude, i think this was all percieved wrong. Man i am not having a dig or anything i was just wondering if you needed any help really. Don't know why your thred has gone a bit pear, hope it wasn't my fault...
Did you see where i mentioned your ID3 tag reading issue? It wouldn't read some of the tags that i know are correct as i can read them in my program and also ThePCJukebox and Tag & Rename. I can send you one of the files if it helps you bug fix this.
Also on a related note, did you blt the screen to get the covers moving like they do. I really like the smooth action they have and was looking at adding something simular to my software.
Anyway, take it easy buddy and good look with your app.
Nope, not your fault at all! I don't really understand why it's gone the way it has either.....who knew giving software away for free would bring such bad attitudes from some people.... *tsk* I dunno.... ;D
As for the tagging, I'm not really sure why it would be going wrong, so perhaps sending one would be a good idea. The ID3 support I put in was really a 'proof of concept', so I wasn't expecting it to be perfect. You should be able to e-mail one to me...check the readme.txt for the addy.
As for the album art, it really is very simple. I used a component I bought to display jpg's (which I use in a commercial application! ;) ), and just move them across the screen. That's all there is to it! It took alot of playing, but the standard picture/image controls available are really not good at that sort of thing, so an optimized control was just the ticket.
Ahhhh....constructive conversation....there's nothing like it! ;D
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Damn, i was hoping you would say that you use blt in a picture control... ;) Ok i'll have a play and see what i can do myself. As for the MP3's i will send you one over tonight when i get home. Cheers for the reply.
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SK your program rocks i love it.
I would like to also add a suggestion. I love the option to select Genre. But i would like to see if there was a way i can also select artist. My files are setup as follows /Genres/artist/album
Well i like the option to select genres but i would also love an option to select artist. This would help with my search since im not using a keypad. Thank you so much.
Or you add a keypad for the search option that uses the left and right arrows to move around.
Well if you add these or not your software rocks. And please if you ever decide to stop improving it. Please think of going open source.
SK you rock!!!!
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OK.. I must have something not clicked... because when I'm in screensaver, the movement or pressing of mouse keys will not do anything... the cursor moves of course... but in order to get back in the program I need to press a key on the keyboard.
So please tell me what I have setup wrong.
Ok I upgraded to 2.6.2
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Ok I upgraded to 2.6.2 the latest from your web site, however I still have the screensaver mouse problem.
Sorry to keep harping on about it. But as you can understand... I can't sleep, my hair is falling out, my kids hate me, I'm a sad specimen of a man.... well maybe I'm getting a bit carried away......... but at least my SK Jukebox kicks ass
Alright, I guess it's about time for an update anyway. I'll see if I can fix the problem Barcrest is having with the ID3 tagging, then put an update online. I'll also see if I can finish off a couple of other things I've been working on (I've ripped out the old on-screen keypad & replaced it with a new version....no more numbers, they're useless on a touch screen, IMO, considering you can touch an album & bring it up, then touch a song to add it to the queue).
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Damn, i was hoping you would say that you use blt in a picture control... ;) Ok i'll have a play and see what i can do myself. As for the MP3's i will send you one over tonight when i get home. Cheers for the reply.
Even blt'ing it wouldn't help the animation across the screen....it's still a picture control, after all, and the method you use to get the image into the control wouldn't change how the control acts as it's 'container' is being moved. Just a hint then.....the animation speed is simply the number of milliseconds I wait until continuing to move it across the screen...not perfect, and I'm sure there's better ways out there, but it works ;)
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Ah.. ok, i am a bit drunk now but i do have an animaion of a walking man using blt'ing in a picture control and it's well smooth i am looking at using that. The secret is to encapsule stuff in a picture control. This is probably making no sense but what i mean is have other stuff within a picture control using it like you would a frame. Errrrm i will pm you over the weekend with what i mean, it may help you out on something.
Thanks for the reply
BB
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Ah.. ok, i am a bit drunk now but i do have an animaion of a walking man using blt'ing in a picture control and it's well smooth i am looking at using that. The secret is to encapsule stuff in a picture control. This is probably making no sense but what i mean is have other stuff within a picture control using it like you would a frame. Errrrm i will pm you over the weekend with what i mean, it may help you out on something.
Thanks for the reply
BB
OK, load a 500*500 jpg in the picture control then start moving the picture control around the screen ;)
Basically what I have is a couple of picture boxes side by side, with lines, labels, lists & image controls inside. Then when animating, I just move the container by a constant interval across the screen (waiting a user controlled time between each step). It's the redrawing of the image INSIDE the container as it's being moved that's the killer, and that's why I am using the image control I'm using. The redraw speeds leave the basic versions in the dust.
The 'secret' for my point of view is that there are 4 of these on the screen, but only 2 visible at any one time. Setting the Zorder so they appear in their correct positions is important, then load the correct albums into the containers, then make them appear, then do the animation. It's all pretty complicated, but it was the best way I could find to do it, and took a long time to get it right.
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Alright, I guess it's about time for an update anyway.
You little beauty...
Since you are doing updates.... is there anyway of having an option to lose the numbers ( before each track)
without the need for a keyboard, they are redundant.
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You little beauty...
Since you are doing updates.... is there anyway of having an option to lose the numbers ( before each track)
without the need for a keyboard, they are redundant.
Sorry, not sure what you mean by this.... ???
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ok... well what I mean is in each cd you have the tracks with trck numbers:
00 All Tracks
01 Song 1 Name
02 Song 2 Name
I would like the option of:
All Tracks
Song 1 Name
Song 2 Name
The numbers are of no use if you are using touch screen or mouse support.
And I don't care if the songs rearrange themselves because numbers are missing.
Just a thought
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Anyway, I did make a couple of changes to the ID3 code that should fix the run time error 5 issue. Expect an update in the next couple of days!
Getting the runtime error 5 as quoted..... Removed the albums that were causing the problem (9 of them). Then the program ran sweet..... I decided i needed some covers as i didnt have many - so i used Album Cover Art Downloader louhi.kempele.fi/~skyostil/projects/albumart/ (http://louhi.kempele.fi/~skyostil/projects/albumart/)
I got loads of covers..... next time i ran SKjuke - runtime 5 error.... so i started removing the offending albums.... i have now removed 23 albums and still getting the same error - can anyone shed any light or a solution to my problem... i really like the program and want to use it...
thanks!
garryb
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OK SORRY GUYS................ I just spent the last 40 minutes reading the posts for a solution............ then posted my above message........... then had another look and someone mentioned about switiching off ID3 tag - tried it and it worked........
so sorry and ignore the post above.
thanks
garry
:)
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ok... well what I mean is in each cd you have the tracks with trck numbers:
00 All Tracks
01 Song 1 Name
02 Song 2 Name
I would like the option of:
All Tracks
Song 1 Name
Song 2 Name
The numbers are of no use if you are using touch screen or mouse support.
And I don't care if the songs rearrange themselves because numbers are missing.
Just a thought
OK, I'm with you now :)
Not a problem.....I hope..... hehe ;)
I'll see if I can make that change later today before putting the update online.
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OK SORRY GUYS................ I just spent the last 40 minutes reading the posts for a solution............ then posted my above message........... then had another look and someone mentioned about switiching off ID3 tag - tried it and it worked........
so sorry and ignore the post above.
thanks
garry
:)
No problems at all, just try again later in the weekend (once the latest version is online) and see if that fixes the issue.
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Version 2.7.0 Released!
What my next move is to go through this thread & PM's & Hotmail account to make sure I haven't missed anything. Once that list has been collated, I will priotitise that work, just to give me an idea of what I have to work on.
If you have any issues related to the changes, please let me know. If ID3 support is still not working right, if the new screen saver is causing issues, etc....just reply here or get me on my e-mail address.
Have fun! ;D
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Woohoo, thanks!
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The help feature I requested wortks great when the help picture is present, many many thanks!
If the picture is missing however, it loks like the "help" title is shown behind the album art, which doesn't look right.
I don't care since I have a picture that I want to use, but just an FYI.
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The help feature I requested wortks great when the help picture is present, many many thanks!
If the picture is missing however, it loks like the "help" title is shown behind the album art, which doesn't look right.
I don't care since I have a picture that I want to use, but just an FYI.
Thanks, fixed! Help screen will only be shown if help.jpg exists. I meant to put in a default picture, but forgot :-\
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The help feature I requested wortks great when the help picture is present, many many thanks!
If the picture is missing however, it loks like the "help" title is shown behind the album art, which doesn't look right.
I don't care since I have a picture that I want to use, but just an FYI.
Thanks, fixed!
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Hi Sk
Some focus problem with this function don't click with your mouse ...or ctrl+alt+suppr :)
Not sure what you mean about this....it's shown as a 'modal' or dialog form, which doesn't allow you to go back to the main screen until it's closed. Can you explain the issue in a little more detail?
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Thanks SK for another great Update!
Regarding the SS - I noticed that if you set the time for the SS to engage that is the time interval in between scrolls. The other time slider below doesn't really affect the time interval between scrolls. Not a big deal, but I thought I'd let you know.
Thanks so much for adding this Feature!! One question/request is on the Options dialog when you input the SS time interval is it possible to have a number input box with the slider? On the slider I can only get it to hit 1, 14, 28, etc.... I thought if there was an input box where the number moved I could manually type in "10" or "25". Just a thought, totally not necessary but if it's easy to do and you think it's worthwile....
Thanks again for your efforts!
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Thanks SK for another great Update!
Regarding the SS - I noticed that if you set the time for the SS to engage that is the time interval in between scrolls. The other time slider below doesn't really affect the time interval between scrolls. Not a big deal, but I thought I'd let you know.
Thanks so much for adding this Feature!! One question/request is on the Options dialog when you input the SS time interval is it possible to have a number input box with the slider? On the slider I can only get it to hit 1, 14, 28, etc.... I thought if there was an input box where the number moved I could manually type in "10" or "25". Just a thought, totally not necessary but if it's easy to do and you think it's worthwile....
Thanks again for your efforts!
The top slider is supposed to be the time before it starts scrolling, the bottom slider is to then scroll it every x seconds after that. So, not sure what's going on there.....I set the top slider to 30, the bottom slider to 6, and after 30 seconds it scrolled.....6 seconds after that, it scrolled, 6 seconds after....etc
As for getting the slider right, just click on the slider & get it close to where you want it. You can then use the left & right arrows to tweak it. ;)
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Hi Sk
Some focus problem with this function don't click with your mouse ...or ctrl+alt+suppr :)
Actually, I think I know what you mean by this now....if the albums are auto scrolling, and you click away from the program to another application (without moving your mouse over the main screen), it will then do the next scroll after bringing the program back to the front.
If that's what you mean, I just fixed that. :)
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Thanks SK for another great Update!
Regarding the SS - I noticed that if you set the time for the SS to engage that is the time interval in between scrolls. The other time slider below doesn't really affect the time interval between scrolls. Not a big deal, but I thought I'd let you know.
Thanks so much for adding this Feature!! One question/request is on the Options dialog when you input the SS time interval is it possible to have a number input box with the slider? On the slider I can only get it to hit 1, 14, 28, etc.... I thought if there was an input box where the number moved I could manually type in "10" or "25". Just a thought, totally not necessary but if it's easy to do and you think it's worthwile....
Thanks again for your efforts!
The top slider is supposed to be the time before it starts scrolling, the bottom slider is to then scroll it every x seconds after that. So, not sure what's going on there.....I set the top slider to 30, the bottom slider to 6, and after 30 seconds it scrolled.....6 seconds after that, it scrolled, 6 seconds after....etc
As for getting the slider right, just click on the slider & get it close to where you want it. You can then use the left & right arrows to tweak it. ;)
Hmmm, I just tried again and I get the same results as earlier reported. The top slider controls the time before it starts scrolling AND the amount of seconds between scrolls. The bottom does nothing. Here's the test I did:
Top slider: I clicked and attempted to move with left & right arrows, but it did not move. I set to 28 seconds using mouse pointer.
Bottom Slider: I clicked and attempted to move with left & right arrows. The slider DID move here and I set to 6 seconds. Clicked Save.
SK Jukebox started and after 28 seconds the scroll began, 28 seconds later it scrolled again, 28 seconds later again.....
I'm running XP SP2 with latest updates. I did just reload the update files from the zip I downloaded last night. If it's just me I will save my .ini file, remove/uninstall all and do a fresh install and try it again. Let me know if it's just me.
Thanks again!
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Same here. The bottom bar dosen't seem to do anything.
I set the top to 30sec and the bottom to 5.It starts after 30sec and then every 30sec after it scrolls.
Pile
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Hmmm, I just tried again and I get the same results as earlier reported. The top slider controls the time before it starts scrolling AND the amount of seconds between scrolls. The bottom does nothing. Here's the test I did:
Top slider: I clicked and attempted to move with left & right arrows, but it did not move. I set to 28 seconds using mouse pointer.
Bottom Slider: I clicked and attempted to move with left & right arrows. The slider DID move here and I set to 6 seconds. Clicked Save.
SK Jukebox started and after 28 seconds the scroll began, 28 seconds later it scrolled again, 28 seconds later again.....
I'm running XP SP2 with latest updates. I did just reload the update files from the zip I downloaded last night. If it's just me I will save my .ini file, remove/uninstall all and do a fresh install and try it again. Let me know if it's just me.
Thanks again!
How very odd.....still can't replicate it here. Could either one of you e-mail me your SKJukebox.ini so I can test with the exact settings.
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Hmmm, I just tried again and I get the same results as earlier reported. The top slider controls the time before it starts scrolling AND the amount of seconds between scrolls. The bottom does nothing. Here's the test I did:
Top slider: I clicked and attempted to move with left & right arrows, but it did not move. I set to 28 seconds using mouse pointer.
Bottom Slider: I clicked and attempted to move with left & right arrows. The slider DID move here and I set to 6 seconds. Clicked Save.
SK Jukebox started and after 28 seconds the scroll began, 28 seconds later it scrolled again, 28 seconds later again.....
I'm running XP SP2 with latest updates. I did just reload the update files from the zip I downloaded last night. If it's just me I will save my .ini file, remove/uninstall all and do a fresh install and try it again. Let me know if it's just me.
Thanks again!
How very odd.....still can't replicate it here. Could either one of you e-mail me your SKJukebox.ini so I can test with the exact settings.
Sure, I'll PM you with the text, or send me a PM with where to email it to.
Thanks!
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Thanks, got the ini. hmmmm....strange, I replicated it once, but after I hit F5 (to refresh the program) it seemed to work alright. Must be something not initializing properly on the first try or something.....
Will keep looking!!
Edit - OK, think I've found the issue! It's the same problem I had with the other type of screen saver : I am getting a 'mouse moved' event for no apparent reason. All I need to do is store the mouse cursor position when the screen saver starts, then when I get a 'mouse moved' event, I check if it has moved more than 5 pixels.....solved....I hope ;)
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Ok SK -
As for the Slider controls you can close that one with a code of "ID10T"...my bad.
The both sliders work as you said, I have some resolution challenges and didn't see the numbers at the end of the sliders.
...just didn't want you to waste time on the other "non" issue.
Thanks.
Great to hear you believe you found it....looking forward to testing and/or the new release.....
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Ok SK -
As for the Slider controls you can close that one with a code of "ID10T"...my bad.
The both sliders work as you said, I have some resolution challenges and didn't see the numbers at the end of the sliders.
...just didn't want you to waste time on the other "non" issue.
Thanks.
Great to hear you believe you found it....looking forward to testing and/or the new release.....
Thanks for letting me know! Sounds like I may have to do a couple tweaks re resolution....what were you running it at?
Anyway, if you want to try out the latest update, 2.7.1 is now online! ;D
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Ok SK -
As for the Slider controls you can close that one with a code of "ID10T"...my bad.
The both sliders work as you said, I have some resolution challenges and didn't see the numbers at the end of the sliders.
...just didn't want you to waste time on the other "non" issue.
Thanks.
Great to hear you believe you found it....looking forward to testing and/or the new release.....
Thanks for letting me know! Sounds like I may have to do a couple tweaks re resolution....what were you running it at?
Anyway, if you want to try out the latest update, 2.7.1 is now online! ;D
800 x 600 on a 35" TV (S-Video) (not my jukebox).....
Seriously....not your issue at all...I run at a low resolution 640x480 or 800x600 on my PVR setup because type is so hard to read in Windows at higher resolutions, but since I use this setup for my movie player, Beyond TV and now SK Jukebox it works fine at 800x600. I just needed to shift the options box over a little.
I'll download and give the new version a whirl.....Thanks for your efforts....truly amazing!
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Ok SK -
As for the Slider controls you can close that one with a code of "ID10T"...my bad.
The both sliders work as you said, I have some resolution challenges and didn't see the numbers at the end of the sliders.
...just didn't want you to waste time on the other "non" issue.
Thanks.
Great to hear you believe you found it....looking forward to testing and/or the new release.....
Thanks for letting me know! Sounds like I may have to do a couple tweaks re resolution....what were you running it at?
Anyway, if you want to try out the latest update, 2.7.1 is now online! ;D
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Okay, I here's what I see now: I set the top slider to "10" and the bottom slider to "5" and hit Save. Program starts good, 10 seconds of touching nothing gets the SS started, then 5 seconds later a scroll, 5 seconds later scroll, etc.....so working as it should....BUT if I touch the mouse (or wireless keyboard trackball in my case) which shows nothing in SK (because I have mouse support disabled) the SS stops working completely. I tested a couple of times in hopes it was me, but I don't think so. On my jukebox where there is no mouse this is not an issue, but on my other setup with a wireless keyboard/tracball there's always a chance of touching/moving it. So for some reason a mouse movement stops all SS activity. Hope that helps.....sorry about that. ::)
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OK, at least it's getting there! lol....
Does it work fine if you press a key to stop it scrolling? Is it just when you use the mouse to stop the scrolling that it's an issue?
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OK, at least it's getting there! lol....
Does it work fine if you press a key to stop it scrolling? Is it just when you use the mouse to stop the scrolling that it's an issue?
Yes, I just tried it again and if I don't touch the trackball/mouse the behavior is as expected, 10 seconds to start, 5 seconds between scrolls until I push a button, then back to 10 seconds, then 5 second intervals.
Moving the mouse stops the SS altogether...BUT if I then do a keypress (increase volume) it starts working again with 10 seconds to start, 5 second intervals.
Note: These time intervals are just for testing, I wouldn't want it to kick in quite that fast, but it's good for these quick user tests.....
Did notice that when the screensaver starts (the 10 second interval) it takes a little more effort to paint the screen for the first scroll. That seems new, but it could be me. I have quite a few things running, but it's a P4 2.6 with 768 ram. Hope that info helps.
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Thanks, that should give me enough to work on, I guess I'm not resetting the normal screen saver timer on a mouse move. As for the first scroll, not sure there as all I am doing is telling the program 'press the right key'....nothing different there ;)
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Thanks SK
the update is fantastic.... now can I have the numbers for next weeks lottery draw.
lol
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Hi SalmonKing
SK Jukebox is a great program
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I have followed your directions in the read me file about the album covers and have named the album covers folder.jpeg in the album directories
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Just a guess here and I am sure SK will chime in to either confirm or refute, but try titling the image file folder.jpg. I think this will make the difference. My collection was named with the cover image as the same name as the directory the mp3's were in as the previous product I was using required (so Van Halen's 5150 cover image would be named Van Halen - 5150.jpg). I didn't even have to make changes to the collection when I made the jump to SK Jukebox and I have never had a problem.
Good luck
Bumble
<edit: spelling and some clarity>
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You don't have to name it the same as the folder either. Plenty of my pictures are labelled "cover.jpg" and it works fine.
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Agree with the others on the naming.....I do a "save as" on the cover art from Amazon, Buy.com, etc and never even rename it and it works fine.
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Hi Sk
Some focus problem with this function don't click with your mouse ...or ctrl+alt+suppr :)
Not sure what you mean about this....it's shown as a 'modal' or dialog form, which doesn't allow you to go back to the main screen until it's closed.
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You don't have to name it the same as the folder either. Plenty of my pictures are labelled "cover.jpg" and it works fine.
True. Mine was already done that way for using JB Sim so I have stuck to that format as my collection has continued to grow.
In regards to the new version of the software, it looks like I need to update. I have not gotten a new version for a while (not sure what build I am running at the moment). For those that have used the new version, how are the new features?
Commenting on the idea earlier of adding an EQ, I got that functionality by getting a SoundBlaster card that loads an EQ with it's driver. Works great and no need for code changes to the "product".
Thanks again for a great jukebox, SK!
Bumble
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Sorry :-[
When i push key "h" display is ok but when i clic with the mouse inside or outside the help form, i can't close the help screen with "h" key. My only solution to close it is to ctrl+alt+suppr
Bauhaus
OK, will check that out, thanks. At least I fixed the other issue with the screen saver by not understanding your post! lol
Also, I have added '.jpeg' to the list of supported pictures. (for Dub)
Will put another update online later today.
SK.
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Version 2.7.2 Released.
26/10/2005
- Fixed an issue with the Help screen where it would not close
- The new screen saver should now be working properly. Was a timer not being reset on mouse move
- Added '.jpeg' to the list of files it will look for when displaying cover art (will look for .jpg, .bmp then .jpeg in that order)
Edit - Thought I'd show the current list of files it will look for when displaying the album art. It will look in the current album directory, then if it doesn't find a match, will look the next level up in the directory structure, then up, up, up...until it reaches the top level of the current path. Here's the list :
"folder.jpg"
"folder.bmp"
"folder.jpeg"
"*front*.jpg"
"*front*.bmp"
"*front*.jpeg"
"* f.jpg"
"* f.bmp"
"* f.jpeg"
"cover.jpg"
"cover.bmp"
"cover.jpeg"
"*.jpg"
"*.bmp"
"*.jpeg"
Oh. while adding this new extension to the list, I made the code alot easier to add in more filters. I may think about adding a list into the setup that anyone can alter. Currently, it's broken up into 2 groups : file names & file extensions, so I'd display these in seperate lists for editing.
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Great SK! I'll test out the new version now.....Thanks!!
Update:
Works perfectly! Thanks for the new features! I did notice that the song list for the lower 2 albums (bottom half) extend over the white square for the album, like they are on top of the square instead of behind it....
While testing I had a thought and want to share with you for a *possible* future change: Should the new scrolling SS work when in Full Album Mode? It's kind of cool to see the Full Album mode scrolling screensaver, but if you enter that mode to review the song list to potentially choose a song, would the user want the screen to scroll? Maybe an option to "Disable Scrolling SS when in Full Album mode"?
Oh, can you get me the moon too? ::) Honestly, I think it's great as it is, but the "user acceptance tester" in me is asking how would "user" want it? Anyway...thanks again for sharing this truly great software!
Bumblebounces.....grab the latest version....it's "Flippin SWEET" ;D
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I don't mind putting that in there as an option. I thought, if someone brings up the full view at a party then walks away, it might be better if it still came up with the screen saver (for the older SS types, it will come up regardless, so kept with that theme). However, I do like putting in options, so I'll chuck that on my list :D
Whoops, seems I had a couple of minutes spare, so 2.7.3 is now online with that option. The option applies to all screensaver types, not just the new one. ;D
http://www.mameworld.net/skjukebox/index.html
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;D :) ;D :) ;D
FANTABULOUS
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(Speechless)
;D :) ;D :) ;D
FANTABULOUS
lol....FANTABULOUS?
That reminds me of a can of mosquito spray I saw on the weekend - "Skintastic". Didn't realise that was a word, either. ;D
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SK,
I am having some problems installing under windows millenium (i believe it was 2.6 the version before this last major update) I got an error when installing saying something about one of the .dll files, i also get this: SK Jukebox has caused an error in shell32.dll when i was trying to set (add) a new location where my music is. Any suggestions!
Thanks,
Jukeman
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SK,
I am having some problems installing under windows millenium (i believe it was 2.6 the version before this last major update) I got an error when installing saying something about one of the .dll files, i also get this: SK Jukebox has caused an error in shell32.dll when i was trying to set (add) a new location where my music is. Any suggestions!
Thanks,
Jukeman
lol...I do, but you won't like it (something about upgrading to a better OS......) ;D
Seriously, not totally sure about the installer without the message that it came up with. I'll check out the adding of the paths, but in the meantime you can do that manually in the .ini file. Just seperate multiple paths with the | character.
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Is XP to much of a resource hog for a AMD 500 processor?
Sorry you lost me on the rest!
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Is XP to much of a resource hog for a AMD 500 processor?
Sorry you lost me on the rest!
Not sure if this helps, but I"ve loaded XP on a couple of Dell OptiPlex GXa's....They are PII233 with 256 of memory and it runs surprisingly well. I put an earlier version of SK Jukebox (2.6.1 I think) and it played well, the only noticeable difference was that the key response times SEEMED a little slower (ie I hit the right key and it seemed to have a SLIGHT delay. I think I saw this for all inputs, volume, song input, etc. Not sure, it was just an experiment on an older PC). The music played fine. Hope that helps.....
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SalmonKing your program is awesome.
I was just wondering if there was anyway to add an admin menu. just like the whole 99997 option but allow more options such as credit etc...
This way i dont need to add a keyboard to the jukebox and i can use only my left right arrows and number pad.
Well either way thank you so much.
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SalmonKing your program is awesome.
I was just wondering if there was anyway to add an admin menu. just like the whole 99997 option but allow more options such as credit etc...
This way i dont need to add a keyboard to the jukebox and i can use only my left right arrows and number pad.
Well either way thank you so much.
Well, if you list off the options you want on there, it would help me. I assume you want to be able to add free credits easily, what else would you want? It would certainly be something I'd put in the 99997 menu.
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Is XP to much of a resource hog for a AMD 500 processor?
Sorry you lost me on the rest!
Not sure if this helps, but I"ve loaded XP on a couple of Dell OptiPlex 1a's....They are PIII233 with 256 of memory and it runs surprisingly well.
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Is XP to much of a resource hog for a AMD 500 processor?
Sorry you lost me on the rest!
Not sure if this helps, but I"ve loaded XP on a couple of Dell OptiPlex GXa's....They are PII233 with 256 of memory and it runs surprisingly well. I put an earlier version of SK Jukebox (2.6.1 I think) and it played well, the only noticeable difference was that the key response times SEEMED a little slower (ie I hit the right key and it seemed to have a SLIGHT delay. I think I saw this for all inputs, volume, song input, etc. Not sure, it was just an experiment on an older PC). The music played fine. Hope that helps.....
How much video memory?
Here's a link to the specs from Dell:
http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/dfuj/Specs.htm
It's the base model....233mhz, minitower, Video memory: 2-MB standard .
Edited Model Number & Processor Type
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I am using a compaq motherboard 500mhz amd k62 processor with 256 ram shared 8mb video ram was with windows xp and when i have a song playing and move the album covers across the screen you can hear it mess up the music playing and makes it a touch garbled or hesitation etc. in the sound.
Any suggestions to improve performance, like add a better viceo card other than buying a new motherboard.
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I am using a compaq motherboard 500mhz amd k62 processor with 256 ram shared 8mb video ram was with windows xp and when i have a song playing and move the album covers across the screen you can hear it mess up the music playing and makes it a touch garbled or hesitation etc. in the sound.
Any suggestions to improve performance, like add a better viceo card other than buying a new motherboard.
What I have in my juke is a P3 800, with 3 * 128 RAM sticks. Using the on-board video gives awful performance (think it's only 4mb, from memory), so I stuck in a 128mb AGP and it works like a charm. A 64mb card would more than likely give similar gains, but with the CPU almost half the speed of what's in mine, a 128 would be much better, IMO. Failing that, CPU would be the next thing I'd look at.
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Hey, this program is great!!!! I have tried it out on my main computer and it runs like a dream. I have just built up my "ex main" machine to use as a jukebox but I can't get SK to run. It gives me a splash screen followed by the error message "Run-time error '-2147417848(80010108): Automation error. The object invoked has disconnected from its clients.
Any thoughts on this? I so much want to get it running
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Hey, this program is great!!!! I have tried it out on my main computer and it runs like a dream. I have just built up my "ex main" machine to use as a jukebox but I can't get SK to run. It gives me a splash screen followed by the error message "Run-time error '-2147417848(80010108): Automation error. The object invoked has disconnected from its clients.
Any thoughts on this? I so much want to get it running :)
Did you install the VB Runtimes from the bottom link in the Downloads section? If you did, I will compile a debug version to figure out exactly what it's bombing out on.
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Does the VB runtimes have to be installed when the program is installed?
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Yes, installed the VB runtimes first. Have re-installed them just in case. Still same problem. What version of Windows media player is required?
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Yes, installed the VB runtimes first. Have re-installed them just in case. Still same problem. What version of Windows media player is required?
It doesn't require Media Player at all, that's why I went with what I'm using ;)
hmmmmm......maybe the latest DirectX is required? Been a while since I've had to look at this side of things......try that, then let me know if you're still having problems.
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I have direct X 9.0c which I downloaded and installed this morning.
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I have direct X 9.0c which I downloaded and installed this morning.
http://www.mameworld.net/skjukebox/SKJukebox-Debug.zip
Run that, then report the exact error....that should at least sort out the offender.
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Error: Could not load library:IMAGR6.dll
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That error several times followed by the SK J splash screen and error message "error 9 Subscript out of range Location: SK_Jukebox.frmMain.InitProgram Line 3314
abort retry ignore
Tried retry but got same message
Tried ignore and got same message but reporting line 3315
Tried ignore again and it progress well into loading the programme but then returned the same message again about line 3315
Now every time I try ignore it repeats the same process adfinitum!
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That error several times followed by the SK J splash screen and error message "error 9 Subscript out of range Location: SK_Jukebox.frmMain.InitProgram Line 3314
abort retry ignore
Tried retry but got same message
Tried ignore and got same message but reporting line 3315
Tried ignore again and it progress well into loading the programme but then returned the same message again about line 3315
Now every time I try ignore it repeats the same process adfinitum!
This seems to be indicating that you have no paths setup in the program. I'll fix that up (there's a path setup in the default .ini that gets installed, so maybe you removed the only one in there?).
As for the DLL not loading, are you able to register that manually (Start - Run - 'regsvr32 {path-to-SKJB}\Imagr6.dll')? Is that file even in the application directory? Are you logged on as Administrator or with Admin access?
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Yes, installed the VB runtimes first. Have re-installed them just in case. Still same problem. What version of Windows media player is required?
Actually, just thinking about it some more, did you run the installer? What it seems like is that you have just unzipped the update that's on the site without installing the program in the first place. Just run the 2.7.0 installer, then try it.
The fact that it is not finding that DLL nor finding an ini file is pointing me in that direction. I took the paths out of my ini, and the program loaded fine, so all I can assume is that it is not even getting the empty Paths line (therefore the ini is not present).
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I am logged in as administrator. Imagr6.dll is located in c:\program files\sk jukebox. I have tried regsvr32 c:\program files\sk jukebox\Imagr6.dll but I get an error message "loadLibrary failed("c:\program")failed The specified module could not be found" I also tried just regsvr32 Imagr6.dll but that gave a similar error message.
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I am using SKJukeboxInstall
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I am using SKJukeboxInstall
I give up then. It's certainly not seeing a .ini file there, otherwise it would not give that error. Running the installer should register all required DLL's. No reason for either error, if you've run the installer (and the shortcut you're using is pointing to the right place!!!).
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I can not find an ini in the SK Jukebox directory.
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I can not find an ini in the SK Jukebox directory.
Here's what I want you to do. Delete the existing SKJB directory & run the installer again (the 2.7.0 installer from the site).
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OK, I have re-installed using SKJukeboxInstall.exe and watched the progress.... it is skipping SKJukebox.ini
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OK, I have re-installed using SKJukeboxInstall.exe and watched the progress.... it is skipping SKJukebox.ini
That's after deleting the existing directory?????
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I have deleted the existing diectory now (our previous messages crossed paths :() and am downloading 2.7.0 (again!) straight onto the machine in question. Am about to install, hold tight!
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OK... I now have a new SK Jukebox directory and it has SKJukebox.ini....... program still won't run, same run-time error
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OK... I now have a new SK Jukebox directory and it has SKJukebox.ini....... program still won't run, same run-time error
Which 'same error' tho? You had a couple before.....
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All errors as before. When I try to run the software it gives me a splash screen followed by the error message "Run-time error '-2147417848(80010108): Automation error. The object invoked has disconnected from its clients."
When I run the debug I get exact same results as before
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All errors as before. When I try to run the software it gives me a splash screen followed by the error message "Run-time error '-2147417848(80010108): Automation error. The object invoked has disconnected from its clients."
When I run the debug I get exact same results as before
jeez, hate to say it, but I am TOTALLY out of ideas. There has to be a reason that the DLL isn't registering, but I have no idea what.
Sorry! ??? :-\ ???
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May be a problem in XP? I have 2 hardrives in the machine and have tried reformatting the C drive and reloading XP 3 times and as a last resort have now swapped the hard drives around so am running XP on a different drive! It is a pre SP1 & SP2 version of XP so I even did a full update after one reformat exercise!
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I have just put a copy of Imagr6.dll into \windows\system 32 and tried to register it. Error message "Imagr6.dll was loaded, but the dllRegisterServer entry point was not found. The file can not be registered."
That is well beyond my knowledge. :'(
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I am logged in as administrator. Imagr6.dll is located in c:\program files\sk jukebox. I have tried regsvr32 c:\program files\sk jukebox\Imagr6.dll but I get an error message "loadLibrary failed("c:\program")failed The specified module could not be found" I also tried just regsvr32 Imagr6.dll but that gave a similar error message.
You will need to surround the file name with quotes :
regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\SK Jukebox\Imagr6.dll"
Scratch that part then...lol.
Now, the only other thing I can think of.....Can you please look in your Windows\System or Windows\System32 directory & see if you have the following files :
oleaut32.dll
stdole2.tlb
If you are missing either, please let me know, as it's the only referrence I can see that the dll in question would require.
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Both files are in system32.
regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\SK Jukebox\Imagr6.dll" give error message
"Imagr6.dll was loaded, but the dllRegisterServer entry point was not found. The file can not be registered."
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Both files are in system32.
regsvr32 "C:\Program Files\SK Jukebox\Imagr6.dll" give error message
"Imagr6.dll was loaded, but the dllRegisterServer entry point was not found. The file can not be registered."
Well, only thing I can suggest is install XP again then install SP2. Or, if it's a barebones install, try installing something like Media Player 10 or Excel or something.....SOMETHING that might kick the system into gear.
/me throws hands up in the air in frustration.....bloody computers ;)
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Will do, SalmonKing.......... I updated to media player 10 a couple of hours ago but I think your comment about installing excel or something like that is valid, that usually finds the cracks and mends them ;)
Thanks for all your help.
By the way, I am attempting to use an 8" touch screen with the program and have tested it on my main computer. A reformat of the page layout would be nice because in 600X480 there is very little room left for text, it all seems to end up being margins and sundry displays. But I will cope for the time being.
Thanks again. 8)
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Will do, SalmonKing.......... I updated to media player 10 a couple of hours ago but I think your comment about installing excel or something like that is valid, that usually finds the cracks and mends them ;)
Thanks for all your help.
By the way, I am attempting to use an 8" touch screen with the program and have tested it on my main computer. A reformat of the page layout would be nice because in 600X480 there is very little room left for text, it all seems to end up being margins and sundry displays. But I will cope for the time being.
Thanks again. 8)
Well, if you ever get it working....I've got something on my list which is :
'Have an option to remove the song lists in 4 album view'
This would mean you'd scroll through the albums, and all you'd see is the album number, album art, then the artist/album title. It would take up the entire 'quadrant' as best it can.
When you go to the full view, the song list would be displayed. I got a little ways with this option, but it got very fiddly, but I'll have another crack at it over the weekend.
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Well, if you ever get it working....I've got something on my list which is :
'Have an option to remove the song lists in 4 album view'
This would mean you'd scroll through the albums, and all you'd see is the album number, album art, then the artist/album title.
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The problems may be caused by a version conflict on the DLLS.. Have you got the latest visual basic runtimes installed? If you right click on a DLL you can see the properties which include the version number.
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Barcrest, which dll file and where should I check?
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Ok, there are 2 things you can try...
1st: Move all the DLL's out of the program files\SK Jukebox directory and put then in windows\system32.... Make sure you move them so you don't have 2 copies.
This gave me the same error as you are getting
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SK,
Just a few Questions.
1. Is there the option to turn off the Artist and Album title below the Album Cover?
2. Can you move the song list closer to the album covers so you can see more of the song titles?
3. Is there a option to eliminate the program having to load the music library each time on start?
4. Is there a way you can speed up the search feature so it doesn't have to scan the library with each letter entry, like it reading from a saved file?
5. Somebody mentioned a EQ, can someone tell me where i can get one to work with this program!
There's alot of great things going on with this program, it's great and has alot of user options. I like alot of things with the program and the screen saver is great for showing the album covers with what is playing.
As i've said before if it only had a little more flash with a border etc. that was skinnable, but i know your not going to do it! :'(
Is this program open source or can i look at it in VB?
This is great Keep up the good work!
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SK,
Just a few Questions.
1. Is there the option to turn off the Artist and Album title below the Album Cover?
2. Can you move the song list closer to the album covers so you can see more of the song titles?
3. Is there a option to eliminate the program having to load the music library each time on start?
4. Is there a way you can speed up the search feature so it doesn't have to scan the library with each letter entry, like it reading from a saved file?
5. Somebody mentioned a EQ, can someone tell me where i can get one to work with this program!
There's alot of great things going on with this program, it's great and has alot of user options. I like alot of things with the program and the screen saver is great for showing the album covers with what is playing.
As i've said before if it only had a little more flash with a border etc. that was skinnable, but i know your not going to do it! :'(
Is this program open source or can i look at it in VB?
This is great Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback.
1) Not currently, but if you really need it, I'll add it to that ever-growing list. ;)
2) hmmm...what resolution are you running at? Are you running it at full screen or windowed? It's pretty close on my setup.
3) Of course, it's the 'Static Database' option you can see on the first section in the Options screen. This will store the album/song information in a couple of files so it only has to load them up when the program starts. It still needs to load the info from somewhere, but it's alot quicker than it going through the directories!
4) The Search feature is being read from the quickest possible place... memory! Even if you're using the Static Database or not, at the point you're doing the Search, the information is being stored in RAM, so there's no 'loading' involved there. The bottle-neck here is the control that the information is being loaded into. I did ALOT of playing around with the ListView control, but I guess it can't handle the amount of information and the speed it is required. What you could do is turn on the 'Require Enter Keypress Before Searching'. This will not initiate the search until you're ready to do so.
5) I don't know about EQ's. As I mentioned earlier, I have no use for one, and it'll cost me a fair bit of money to achieve it with the software (but hang tight, I may have some news on this in the near future!!!). The other alternative is to look at what's available with your sound card. I know with my SB Live it came with software that I can adjust the levels, and that's applied system-wide, not just in my program.
Again the skinnable topic....I know you know that I'm not going to do that, but please realise the amount of work that would be required to make that happen. It took MANY months to get the interface right as it is now, but to make it skinnable it will require me to strip the program back to scratch & start again. Can you see why I might not want to put in that amount of work just for this feature? It's not a matter of just not wanting to do it, it's a matter of feasibility from my point of view. MAYBE, if it was just displaying an image on the background (i.e. a border), I MAY look into it, but I know then it'd open a can of worms. :)
As for open source, no, it's closed source. That's just the way I want to do it. No other reason than that....not that I don't want to share the program. If that were the case, I wouldn't have put the program out there in the first place, I just want to keep the source to myself. Some others are happy to release their source, I'm not one of those people. ;)
SK.
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Salmon King, regarding my problems not being able to run SK Jukebox.... turns out the on-board sound card is kaput!!!! Put in a new sound card and it works like a dream. :)
I feel a bit embarrassed, though :-\
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Salmon King, regarding my problems not being able to run SK Jukebox.... turns out the on-board sound card is kaput!!!! Put in a new sound card and it works like a dream. :)
I feel a bit embarrassed, though :-\
OUCH! :o That's insane that it'd cause those problems, but I'm glad you've got it sorted out!
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Salmon King, regarding my problems not being able to run SK Jukebox.... turns out the on-board sound card is kaput!!!! Put in a new sound card and it works like a dream.
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Also, I have added '.jpeg' to the list of supported pictures.
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SK,
Just a few Questions.
1. Is there the option to turn off the Artist and Album title below the Album Cover?
2. Can you move the song list closer to the album covers so you can see more of the song titles?
3. Is there a option to eliminate the program having to load the music library each time on start?
4. Is there a way you can speed up the search feature so it doesn't have to scan the library with each letter entry, like it reading from a saved file?
5. Somebody mentioned a EQ, can someone tell me where i can get one to work with this program!
There's alot of great things going on with this program, it's great and has alot of user options. I like alot of things with the program and the screen saver is great for showing the album covers with what is playing.
As i've said before if it only had a little more flash with a border etc. that was skinnable, but i know your not going to do it! :'(
Is this program open source or can i look at it in VB?
This is great Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the feedback.
1) Not currently, but if you really need it, I'll add it to that ever-growing list.
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5) I don't know about EQ's. As I mentioned earlier, I have no use for one, and it'll cost me a fair bit of money to achieve it with the software (but hang tight, I may have some news on this in the near future!!!). The other alternative is to look at what's available with your sound card. I know with my SB Live it came with software that I can adjust the levels, and that's applied system-wide, not just in my program.
Ok! That what i remember seeing on the forum!
Just a little WIP ;)
(http://www.mameworld.net/skjukebox/eq.jpg)
Thanks to a very generous donation, I've upgraded the MP3 control & have incorporated an Equalizer. There's a couple of other nice little things I've done, but will keep them under my hat for now..... ;D
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SK,
GREAT, THANKS!
Is the new version posted yet?
Jukeman
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SK,
GREAT, THANKS!
Is the new version posted yet?
Jukeman
No, still WIP until I get a little furthur with the other feature(s) I am working on. ;)
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SK,
I guess i should have explained the reason for wanting the EQ a long time ago. I am using 15" woofers in my cab and at low volume they don't move much air, so by using the EQ i can up the bass for the lower volume. At higher volume it's fine but nobody can watch tv in the house. Once again thanks for getting the EQ and thanks to person or persons for the donation.
What screen resolution is best for your program?
Jukeman
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SK,
I guess i should have explained the reason for wanting the EQ a long time ago. I am using 15" woofers in my cab and at low volume they don't move much air, so by using the EQ i can up the bass for the lower volume. At higher volume it's fine but nobody can watch tv in the house. Once again thanks for getting the EQ and thanks to person or persons for the donation.
What screen resolution is best for your program?
Jukeman
I run it at 1024 * 768 on one PC and 1280 * 1024 on another, and it looks great, IMO. ;D
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SK,
GREAT, THANKS!
Is the new version posted yet?
Jukeman
No, still WIP until I get a little furthur with the other feature(s) I am working on. ;)
The SILENCE is Killing me! ::) ;D
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SK
Great program!!
Just started using it to replace VMJ which has a really bothersome bug on my computer that has not been sorted out.
Like the clean look and smooth response.
BobA
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SK
Great program!!
Just started using it to replace VMJ which has a really bothersome bug on my computer that has not been sorted out.
Like the clean look and smooth response.
BobA
I did the same about a month ago....after much frustration. Quite honestly SK Jukebox is far more configurable and it runs great on my hardware - I should have switched long ago. The last few added features (Screensaver functions) were just the "cherry on top" for me.
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Here - Here
I switched a couple of months ago as well.............
and I aint going back.
lol... this sounds like a commercial for toothpaste or something......
3 cheers for SalmonKing hip hip......
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It's the same here. I used VMJ "bought and paid for" but they never fixed the bugs I was having and I got no responce from them at all!
I'm using a touchscreen and I love Sk's program. Clean and fast! Keep up the great work!!
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This is probably starting to sound like a broken record (bad juke related pun intended!), but it was the same with me. Although I switched quite a while ago. VMJ was way to buggy. SK's jukebox software has been rock solid since the first time I installed it. And its nice to be able to communicate directly with the author of the software, unlike, VMJ. ;)
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Wow, thanks for all the positive feedback! :o
Nice to see, and keeps the fire under me to keep going on these WIP features.... ;)
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Holding my breath for next update!!!
Just a thought, SK, but how about allowing display of albums in order of album title as well as artist title - adds a bit more fun at parties. For that matter, how about a random display? Even more fun! I say that because when I get to a jukebox that I don't know I love the "discovery" aspect of scrolling forward. When it is set up artist alphabetically the guests will have to scroll through 30 odd Neil Young discs to get to something different, and I don't know many people that like his music that well!!!!
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Holding my breath for next update!!!
Just a thought, SK, but how about allowing display of albums in order of album title as well as artist title - adds a bit more fun at parties. For that matter, how about a random display? Even more fun! I say that because when I get to a jukebox that I don't know I love the "discovery" aspect of scrolling forward. When it is set up artist alphabetically the guests will have to scroll through 30 odd Neil Young discs to get to something different, and I don't know many people that like his music that well!!!!
hmmmmm.....strange idea, but I guess I can do that. :D
Edit : aaaaaaand it's done, expect it in the next update ;)
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These updates all sound GREAT.
I do however have one small issue. Maby I'm just not looking in the right place but I have a touch screen only Juke and in the last few versions it looks like some of the functionality has been removed. What I am mostly talking about is the volume control and the number pad in the bottom right section of the screen.
I find that the new keypad section is severly lacking for my particular situation. Is there any way that you could make it an option to have the old one?
Thanks for making such great software.
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These updates all sound GREAT.
I do however have one small issue. Maby I'm just not looking in the right place but I have a touch screen only Juke and in the last few versions it looks like some of the functionality has been removed. What I am mostly talking about is the volume control and the number pad in the bottom right section of the screen.
I find that the new keypad section is severly lacking for my particular situation. Is there any way that you could make it an option to have the old one?
Thanks for making such great software.
I am currently revamping the touch screen features. Sit tight, they'll make a comeback! ;D
The only thing is, do you REALLY need the number pad? The idea was that if you can touch an album, and it comes up on screen, then you touch a song to put it in the queue.....that would make the numbers redundant.
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But if you have over 1500 albums, like me, it is nice to be able to use the number pad to jump forward and back in the list faster than paging through all of them. And before you ask, I have tried the new find and jump functions and frankly the XP onscreen keyboard SUCKS. I appreciate your trying and I know that the OSK is a standard windows app but that is the problem. It breaks the look and feel of the juke app.
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But if you have over 1500 albums, like me, it is nice to be able to use the number pad to jump forward and back in the list faster than paging through all of them. And before you ask, I have tried the new find and jump functions and frankly the XP onscreen keyboard SUCKS. I appreciate your trying and I know that the OSK is a standard windows app but that is the problem. It breaks the look and feel of the juke app.
One of the other parts is to add buttons to scroll the Scrollable Jump with, then you touch the letter to select it. Would that suffice with the jumping?
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I guess it would probably work well. I won't know for sure of course until I get a chance to test it.
The volume control though is pretty important. We use the jukebox when my friends come over to do pen and paper role-playing and sometimes we turn up or down the music. Without the volume control it makes the jukebox either useless or anoying.
As for the volume control, it never seemed to repeat if you just clicked on it and held like the left and right page buttons did. I tried checking the auto key repeating in the options but it didn't seem to have any effect on those particular buttons.
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I guess it would probably work well. I won't know for sure of course until I get a chance to test it.
The volume control though is pretty important. We use the jukebox when my friends come over to do pen and paper role-playing and sometimes we turn up or down the music. Without the volume control it makes the jukebox either useless or anoying.
As for the volume control, it never seemed to repeat if you just clicked on it and held like the left and right page buttons did. I tried checking the auto key repeating in the options but it didn't seem to have any effect on those particular buttons.
Yeah, only some buttons had auto-repeat enabled on them. I will keep all this in mind when I finish the new touch screen controls!
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SK, I am loving your software, have been running it all week to test it out. Another "tweak" for us touch screen folk that are using 640X480 8" screens (probably only me!!!) is to provide an option for album scrolls without the jump/find keypad, left scroll situated at the left of the "Track List" zone and the right scroll situated across at the right of the track playing zone where the key pad would be usually. That gives the ability to use touch screen for most of the navigation at a party by touch, with serious home use utilizing the keyboard for jump and find.
I am putting on a party next Saturday night for my wife's birthday, I hope it is the "big debut" of SK Jukebox with our friends. ;)
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Have kust noticed a minor "glitch". I run the software so that it is on random when there are no selections. It seems that the "random" selector stays on even when tracks are being selected.
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Hail to the (Salmon) King,
I've gutted my arcade machine, in favour of a HTPC (running all my old emulation stuff still, of course).
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SK, relevant to key entry selection of tracks, perhaps option to be able to turn album number off when in full page display but keep track numbers displayed. In full page mode the number is automatically entered into the track list and entry of track number only is required. This will stop "guests" getting it wrong by entering the album number again.
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SK,
Any new updates with the EQ?
Jukeman
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OMG I made the switch!
I was planning on using a not-so free jukebox software, even purchased it but there hasnt been any progress with it for almost a year.
I am floored - simple, to the point, excellent!!!!
I cant wait to see the revamped TS part, as i plan on a touchscreen only setup
Would be nice to see Clear Queue and Next Song and maybe Vol+/-
1-0 would be cool but not all that needed
Time to work on jukebox as I have found IMO the 'holy grail' of T/S Jukebox software
SK thx for sharing and as soon as the T/S update expect paypal
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SK, relevant to key entry selection of tracks, perhaps option to be able to turn album number off when in full page display but keep track numbers displayed. In full page mode the number is automatically entered into the track list and entry of track number only is required. This will stop "guests" getting it wrong by entering the album number again.
Could you just change the font color of the album numbers on full page display to be the same as the background, in effect making it "invisible"? I haven't tried it myself....just thought of it...I'll try it later if I have time....
UPDATE:
Yes, that does work. Would be nice to remove the "X", maybe only make it visible if mouse support is turned on. But changing the font color is a quick and easy way to give you what you are asking for without a code revision....
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Getting rid of the X is a great idea ;D Clicking on the full page art work to return to the 4 cover view would be good. i.e. select a track or click the artwork to return.
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SK, the program is generally running very sweetly now that I have been testing it for over a week. I am looking forward very much to your next release.
I have found an annoyance when using the touch screen. If I select a song by "double clicking" on the song in the list while in 4 cover display the computer sometimes takes a couple of seconds to add the track to the queue. That is not a problem and probably relates more to the computer and seems to happen when it is about to finish playing one track and is moving onto the next. The problem that arises is if in that couple of seconds delay I touch the album cover artwork to enlage the playlist (thinking that my selection hasn't occurred) then the program either goes into a loop or freezes. Either way it needs to be shut down and restarted.
SK Jukebox is a great piece of software!
EDIT
I have just used SK Jukebox in a party situation at home. I ran it without a touch screen (my new touch screen went belly up after 1 day and is now in for warranty repairs/replacement
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I have been using SK Jukebox for some time now after moving from VMJ after it just wasnt stable. SK works exceptionally well and it has everything i need in a jukebox excepting being able to play videos. It sounds as if SK will never support video, which is a shame as I have hundreds of music videos, but hey it works and doest crash all the time, and even better its free so i really cant complain can I :) (Though I would almost certainly pay for it if it supported video).
Other than that there is only one small thing i would like to change, and that is the Screen saver function for the current playing song. I use VMJ in my loungroom and have it connected to my TV and it would be better if I could see the current playing song as full screen picture instead of a small "quarter" screen shot jumping round the screen, its just really hard to see on a TV unless your close to it. Basically what I would like is when the screensaver comes on it shows a full screen with an album picture, title and song title in larger fonts. Not sure how hard this would be to do but I would greatly appreciate it if it can be done
Keep up the good work
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SK, I am still loving your work!
The more I use the program the more I realise that my CD collection (now all ripped into mp3s in about 1,5000 file) is difficult to manage in one directory. I have therefore broken it up into sub directories e.g. party music, jazz, wifes music, laid back etc. (too hard to go back over that many tracks and set up IDE tags! Besides, I will change my mind often as to what is in directories and changing IDEs isn't fun.
Consequently I have been going into options and removing and adding directories. How about a button enabled list of directories as an option on the main screen? Just a thought.
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Hi all,
Just letting you know I AM still alive, but work has not been kind to me lately. I am still working on a few things, plus will get some requests organized before the next update.
The EQ went well and is fully operational, it took a couple of days. As for other features, some are going well, and others have been tried & scrapped. I will 'report' more once the next release is ready.
SK.
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I hate this SOFTWARE!
Now dam it I have to figure out how to add a Numeric touchpad to my MAME cab so I can use it as a jukebox too!! Grumble :)
Seriously good job so far. I have only been playing with it for 10 mins (first jukebox software that I have used) and it is easy to figure out and use. Looks like I have to organize my MP3's better and use a consistent naming scheme for consistency.
Don
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SK, I have noticed something odd over the past couple of days. I have taken to not shutting windows XP down each night but just close SKJ using the top right X. When I opened program manager tonight there were three instances of SKJ running and one of those was not responding. So I did a bit of playing around by opening, closing etc. and each time I closed the program it remained "running"! Most odd.
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I hate this SOFTWARE!
Now dam it I have to figure out how to add a Numeric touchpad to my MAME cab so I can use it as a jukebox too!! Grumble :)
Don, I have built a dedicated jukebox running SK, and I don't have a Numeric key in sight.
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I really enjoy this software. It's easy to use and easy to setup. One question I have (or suggestion as it might be) is, would it be possible to setup a group of single key mappings to change the Genres (such as push the letter "R" for rock list, "J" for Jazz list etc..) instead of hitting the "\" and then chosing from the list. The idea for me is not to have any Up Down arrow or Enter keys setup on the box. Hope this makes sense.
Thanks.
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Hello, just joined up to pass comment on SK Jukebox. A truly marvelous piece of software!
I've just got the arduous task of ripping my CD collection now! :-/
One question, which I cannot find an answer to in the search option. When I rip using Windows Media Player for XP at 192Kbps (supposed to be a happy medium between quality and disk space), the cover art gets saved as folder.jpg which is fine, but as a hidden file. SK Juke cannot make use of this file, until I open it in my fave graphics package and resave which takes away the hidden attribute. I also rename to the artist name as I'm thinking that the auto-update that WMP does from the internet might put the file back to hidden at some point in the future, as it seems to do with several CDs that it cannot identify, and renames my hard work of typing each track title back to 01-Track 1, 02 Track 2 :(
Have i missed something with the hidden file trick? Not too much of an issue, but I'm sure easily sorted.
Cheers, Tony
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Here's what I use/do:
Good Program for ripping CDs to MP3s(freeware):
http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/gettingstarted.html
This is the setup page, also need a mp3 encoder but this page tells you what to get and it's free also. This software used to be pay but has recently become freeware. Takes a little time to setup at first, but this is one time only, then very fast and easy to use.
For CD and DVD covers I go to either BUY.COM or AMAZON and copy their images. I also use Google images when all else fails. BUY.COM are the best quality and have recently redone their website which makes the large CD & DVD covers difficult to save (no right click). Here's how to grab them still:
Find the album you want, and then do a right click on the SMALL IMAGE and do a "Copy Shortcut". Paste the shortcut in the Address bar of the browser like so:
javascript:largeIM('http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/large_images/403/64012403.jpg ');hide('ppForm')
(http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/large_images/403/64012403.jpg ');hide('ppForm')
)
now REMOVE everything before the "http://" and after the ".jpg", like so:
http://ak.buy.com/db_assets/large_images/403/64012403.jpg
Pretty easy still and great cover art.
Hope that helps....good luck.
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Hello, just joined up to pass comment on SK Jukebox. A truly marvelous piece of software!
I've just got the arduous task of ripping my CD collection now! :-/
One question, which I cannot find an answer to in the search option. When I rip using Windows Media Player for XP at 192Kbps (supposed to be a happy medium between quality and disk space), the cover art gets saved as folder.jpg which is fine, but as a hidden file. SK Juke cannot make use of this file, until I open it in my fave graphics package and resave which takes away the hidden attribute. I also rename to the artist name as I'm thinking that the auto-update that WMP does from the internet might put the file back to hidden at some point in the future, as it seems to do with several CDs that it cannot identify, and renames my hard work of typing each track title back to 01-Track 1, 02 Track 2 :(
Have i missed something with the hidden file trick? Not too much of an issue, but I'm sure easily sorted.
Cheers, Tony
Well, you could always use a batch file to clear the attribute. 'attrib -h *.* /S' will do it, so either do the following, depending if you're OK with a command prompt or not :
Option 1
- Start -> Run -> type 'cmd' and hit Enter (type it without the quotes)
- Browse to the root of your mp3's
- Type 'attrib -h *.* /S' and hit Enter (again, without the quotes)
Option 2
- Open Windows Explorer and browse to the root of your mp3's
- In the file/directory listing on the right, right click an empty space and select New -> Text Document
- Call the file 'unhide.bat'
- Right click the file and select Edit
- Type 'attrib -h *.* /S' and hit save the file (again, without the quotes)
- Just double click the file and it'll clear the hidden attribute
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Thanks SalmonK. I am familiar with DOS commands, and must admit to forgetting about that little trick - the old tricks are dying off!!
Perhaps a future feature release to allow SK to recognise hidden files??
Cheers, Tony
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Thanks SalmonK. I am familiar with DOS commands, and must admit to forgetting about that little trick - the old tricks are dying off!!
Perhaps a future feature release to allow SK to recognise hidden files??
Cheers, Tony
Yeah, I'm sure that's possible.
At this stage, it looks like I won't be able to work on the program until after xmas/new year, but at least I'll have a week of peace to look forward to where I can spend some quality time with it ;)
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SK,
all the best into the new year. You have done a great job with SKJ so far! :D
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SK,
all the best into the new year. You have done a great job with SKJ so far! :D
Ditto SK -
Thanks for all your efforts! :)
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Wow what an awesome program, pretty much everything I've been looking for in a Jukebox. My only suggestions are adding an add entire album feature, unless i missed it, and an app-to-run on exit feature as in MAMEWah so it wouild be easy to switch back and forth. Again, excellent program, great work.
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SK,
I have a problem going on with SK Jukebox that when the program comes up the volume is pretty loud for a second then goes back down to what ever level you had it set at when it was shut down. Could you look into this for me and let me know if there is anything you can do. I have my amp turned up some and it about makes you pee your pants when it first loads up!
Thanks!
Jukeman
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Wow what an awesome program, pretty much everything I've been looking for in a Jukebox. My only suggestions are adding an add entire album feature, unless i missed it, and an app-to-run on exit feature as in MAMEWah so it wouild be easy to switch back and forth. Again, excellent program, great work.
Thanks for the feedback.
For adding an entire album, use the song code '00'. There are a couple of options in the setup screen that you can use for it, one for displaying '00 All Tracks' in the song listing, and the other is to use the All Tracks feature without displaying it in the list.
I'll have a look at adding in the other request when I get the time.
SK.
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SK,
I have a problem going on with SK Jukebox that when the program comes up the volume is pretty loud for a second then goes back down to what ever level you had it set at when it was shut down. Could you look into this for me and let me know if there is anything you can do. I have my amp turned up some and it about makes you pee your pants when it first loads up!
Thanks!
Jukeman
hmmmm.....I got it to happen once, but not since. I have done something I think may fix it, so let me know if the issue is fixed after the next version has been released
SK.
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Thanks for the quick responce, the display play all tracks function is exactly what im looking for as i'm using regular arcade controlls without a keypad, touchscreen, or trackball. Also, after searching the forum I've found a few other ways to launch skjuke from mamewah, so the app-to-run on exit isnt really neccesary anymore. I was going to suggest adding a help screen but then I found you already have one. Great software, great support, and great updates. This juke can't be beat.
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SK,
Thanks for the response! When will the next version be out?
Jukeman
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SK,
Thanks for the response! When will the next version be out?
Jukeman
As I've said a few posts up, probably not until after xmas/new year. Just too busy at the moment!
SK.
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Sk,
That's fine, i was just anxious and hoping something had changed!
Jukeman
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Hi SK,
I've only been playing with this jukebox program for a week, but loving it.. I have a few thiings to report if you want to know about it. Hopefully, it's not a repeat of something someone else may have noticed.
1) I was playing with the credits.. and everytime you reload with existing credits the credits display as 0 although it's not really 0. The credits seems to be there, but shows up as 0. This is only realized when u add more credits or add a track.
2) Also relating to credits, if you have existing credits and go into options 'o' screen and exit to main screen the existing credits are completely gone.. back to 0 and here it's really 0.
3) I believe someone mentioned in a previous posts that multiple instances of the program were encountered.. well I've had this happen quite a number of times in addition to the program not really or so it seems unable to shutdown with 'q' or 'Ctrl-q'. I'm not quite sure, but i think it shuts down and restarts. It seems happen so quickly that it appears as not having shutdown.
4) Not sure if your jukebox program supports EAX.. I'm using a Creative Audigy sound card and it seems that once EAX is enabled.. and a track is played, upon completion EAX is completely disabled along with any associated settings. I think what's happening here is that the sound device probably gets disabled? Because when I go into Creative's EAX console after it stops working.. everything is blank and sometimes i get a message of no valid device found. The moment I shutdown the jukebox program, everything is back to normal and EAX is re-enabled. If I don't shutdown and play another track, it seems to play visually, but no sound outputs. I've tries a number of other media players and this problem doesn't occur, only with the jukebox program.
5) I think your new screensaver still has a bug in it somewhere? Even though the screensaver setting is set to option 3 (scrolling) it sometimes displays a popup message of can't find .jpg.
Anyways, those a just a few things I've noticed while playing with the jukebox software. Otherwise, great work so far and happy holidays.
Qaz
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Hi!
I am trying to set up genres. I do all the right stuff in setting up the directory etc. but this happens.
I have arranged my music into dance music and eighties music and used 2 separate folders.
The program loads up and recognises dance as one genre and all the 80s stuff , despite all eing in one folder called eighties all come up as a separate genre!!! so I have like 200 genres instead of one for 80s!
How do I get round this?
Any ideas?
Thank you.
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Do you have both folders in the same root folder?
I use the following format.
Music--
Genre1--
Artist---
Album---
Songs
Genre2---
Artist---
Album---
Songs
Etc...
I hope this helps
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Hi SK,
I've only been playing with this jukebox program for a week, but loving it.. I have a few thiings to report if you want to know about it. Hopefully, it's not a repeat of something someone else may have noticed.
1) I was playing with the credits.. and everytime you reload with existing credits the credits display as 0 although it's not really 0. The credits seems to be there, but shows up as 0. This is only realized when u add more credits or add a track.
2) Also relating to credits, if you have existing credits and go into options 'o' screen and exit to main screen the existing credits are completely gone.. back to 0 and here it's really 0.
3) I believe someone mentioned in a previous posts that multiple instances of the program were encountered.. well I've had this happen quite a number of times in addition to the program not really or so it seems unable to shutdown with 'q' or 'Ctrl-q'. I'm not quite sure, but i think it shuts down and restarts. It seems happen so quickly that it appears as not having shutdown.
4) Not sure if your jukebox program supports EAX.. I'm using a Creative Audigy sound card and it seems that once EAX is enabled.. and a track is played, upon completion EAX is completely disabled along with any associated settings. I think what's happening here is that the sound device probably gets disabled? Because when I go into Creative's EAX console after it stops working.. everything is blank and sometimes i get a message of no valid device found. The moment I shutdown the jukebox program, everything is back to normal and EAX is re-enabled. If I don't shutdown and play another track, it seems to play visually, but no sound outputs. I've tries a number of other media players and this problem doesn't occur, only with the jukebox program.
5) I think your new screensaver still has a bug in it somewhere? Even though the screensaver setting is set to option 3 (scrolling) it sometimes displays a popup message of can't find .jpg.
Anyways, those a just a few things I've noticed while playing with the jukebox software. Otherwise, great work so far and happy holidays.
Qaz
1) Hmmm...wasn't aware the credits were saved between sessions. Will look into it....
2) OK, that should be an easy fix. Just won't clear the credit count when you come out of there (the program totally re-initializes for the new settings)
3) That should be fixed in the next version....I hope! ;)
4) That would be the fault of the control I use to play the music. It seems to lock the sound card, as well as any CD drives in some instances. I will get the latest version & distribute it with the next version. Hope that will cure some of these problems.
5) Can you let me know the exact message you are getting there? AFAIK, there's no message that will display related to loading jpg's
As for having a good xmas....I'll try & same to you :D
SK.
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Hi!
I am trying to set up genres. I do all the right stuff in setting up the directory etc. but this happens.
I have arranged my music into dance music and eighties music and used 2 separate folders.
The program loads up and recognises dance as one genre and all the 80s stuff , despite all eing in one folder called eighties all come up as a separate genre!!! so I have like 200 genres instead of one for 80s!
How do I get round this?
Any ideas?
Thank you.
If PileDriver's post does not help, please post a screenshot of your folder tree, with both the Dance & 80s folders visible & expanded. That might give me a clue.
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Just a suggestion, when you finally implement the random sorting, would it be possible to have a single key to change from alphabetical to random while the program is running? Having the selections come up at random is great for a party, but sometimes you want to find a particular artist without completely exiting the program or pulling up another menu....
I don't know if this is a bug or not, or if it will make sense, but...
My controls are set up with left and right to scroll one page, and up and down to scroll to the next letter... when I try to scroll to the next letter (by pushing up), say A-B, it hangs on the first B until I push left to scroll to the next page. It will scroll thru the B's until the next C, then I have to page it (push left) again...Moving backwards (pushing down) works great without stopping...
Finally, any thoughts on updating the screensaver?
Keep up the great work, SK Jukebox rocks!
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Just a suggestion, when you finally implement the random sorting, would it be possible to have a single key to change from alphabetical to random while the program is running? Having the selections come up at random is great for a party, but sometimes you want to find a particular artist without completely exiting the program or pulling up another menu....
I don't know if this is a bug or not, or if it will make sense, but...
My controls are set up with left and right to scroll one page, and up and down to scroll to the next letter... when I try to scroll to the next letter (by pushing up), say A-B, it hangs on the first B until I push left to scroll to the next page. It will scroll thru the B's until the next C, then I have to page it (push left) again...Moving backwards (pushing down) works great without stopping...
Finally, any thoughts on updating the screensaver?
Keep up the great work, SK Jukebox rocks!
I'll see what I can do about that sorting change. The Random sorting IS done, but I'll add a key to switch in between modes.
Might be something grabbing focus, stopping me from being able to detect the keystroke.....
Not really....I'm happy with the way it is. I can't get the visualizations that show in the main screen into the screensaver, but other than that I haven't thought much about upgrading it (apart from maybe allowing font/image size changes, etc).
SK.
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Yeah!!!
All done!
THanks for the advice.
and Salmon...you have devised the most wonderful program.
I am enjoying my music so much tnaks to you.
The program is amazing and so are you.
I would gladly pay for this software.
THank you thank you thank you!!!
Daniel
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Yeah!!!
All done!
THanks for the advice.
and Salmon...you have devised the most wonderful program.
I am enjoying my music so much tnaks to you.
The program is amazing and so are you.
I would gladly pay for this software.
THank you thank you thank you!!!
Daniel
Excellent, glad you got it sorted. ;D
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Hi SK,
I've only been playing with this jukebox program for a week, but loving it.. I have a few thiings to report if you want to know about it. Hopefully, it's not a repeat of something someone else may have noticed.
1) I was playing with the credits.. and everytime you reload with existing credits the credits display as 0 although it's not really 0. The credits seems to be there, but shows up as 0. This is only realized when u add more credits or add a track.
2) Also relating to credits, if you have existing credits and go into options 'o' screen and exit to main screen the existing credits are completely gone.. back to 0 and here it's really 0.
3) I believe someone mentioned in a previous posts that multiple instances of the program were encountered.. well I've had this happen quite a number of times in addition to the program not really or so it seems unable to shutdown with 'q' or 'Ctrl-q'. I'm not quite sure, but i think it shuts down and restarts. It seems happen so quickly that it appears as not having shutdown.
4) Not sure if your jukebox program supports EAX.. I'm using a Creative Audigy sound card and it seems that once EAX is enabled.. and a track is played, upon completion EAX is completely disabled along with any associated settings. I think what's happening here is that the sound device probably gets disabled? Because when I go into Creative's EAX console after it stops working.. everything is blank and sometimes i get a message of no valid device found. The moment I shutdown the jukebox program, everything is back to normal and EAX is re-enabled. If I don't shutdown and play another track, it seems to play visually, but no sound outputs. I've tries a number of other media players and this problem doesn't occur, only with the jukebox program.
5) I think your new screensaver still has a bug in it somewhere? Even though the screensaver setting is set to option 3 (scrolling) it sometimes displays a popup message of can't find .jpg.
Anyways, those a just a few things I've noticed while playing with the jukebox software. Otherwise, great work so far and happy holidays.
Qaz
1) Hmmm...wasn't aware the credits were saved between sessions. Will look into it....
2) OK, that should be an easy fix. Just won't clear the credit count when you come out of there (the program totally re-initializes for the new settings)
3) That should be fixed in the next version....I hope! ;)
4) That would be the fault of the control I use to play the music. It seems to lock the sound card, as well as any CD drives in some instances. I will get the latest version & distribute it with the next version. Hope that will cure some of these problems.
5) Can you let me know the exact message you are getting there? AFAIK, there's no message that will display related to loading jpg's
As for having a good xmas....I'll try & same to you :D
SK.
Hi SK,
Thanks for your reply.. I have a few corrections to make and I've been doing some additional testing -
1) I said 'reload', but I actually meant 'Refresh' album list (F5).
2) I said go into options screen 'o' and exit out.. but I actually meant go into and upon doing a Save.. the problem is experienced.
4) I've been playing around with the mp3 controls you use in the jukebox software.. doing some homework to help you out. :) I downloaded the demo controls and the EAX problem isn't experienced with their demo app -- even while using the current ocx u have distributed. However, the problem is experienced in your jukebox software despite using the ocx that came with the demo controls.
5) Ignore this. It was a windows problem.
Can I make 1 suggestion regarding the track numbers displayed alongside track titles? Albums with less than 10 tracks have single digit track numbers.. would it make sense to pad it waith a leading 0? It's just that once you get accustomed to typing a leading 0 for all other albums with 10+ tracks you do the same when you come across those that are less than 10 tracks. It's as if you don't even think twice before typing it in. Perhaps it's just me.. And for those using touchscreen, this change wouldn't really affect them. Also, would you consider adding a dash between the track number and the track title? Ex. 01 - Track Title . It would make the display look so much better and easier to spot track numbers. Seems a but bunched up with the track title. I know space is limited, but hopefully 3 additional chars. will not make a big difference (2 spaces included).
Anyhow, thanks for your previous response and I hope the additional bit of info helps.
Qaz
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Hey guys.
Just got this error...have been loading my "Now" albums.
when SK loads the program it comes up with
"run time error (6)
Over flow
Only just happened...any ideas please?
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4) I've been playing around with the mp3 controls you use in the jukebox software.. doing some homework to help you out. :) I downloaded the demo controls and the EAX problem isn't experienced with their demo app -- even while using the current ocx u have distributed. However, the problem is experienced in your jukebox software despite using the ocx that came with the demo controls.
Can I make 1 suggestion regarding the track numbers displayed alongside track titles? Albums with less than 10 tracks have single digit track numbers.. would it make sense to pad it waith a leading 0? It's just that once you get accustomed to typing a leading 0 for all other albums with 10+ tracks you do the same when you come across those that are less than 10 tracks. It's as if you don't even think twice before typing it in. Perhaps it's just me.. And for those using touchscreen, this change wouldn't really affect them. Also, would you consider adding a dash between the track number and the track title? Ex. 01 - Track Title . It would make the display look so much better and easier to spot track numbers. Seems a but bunched up with the track title. I know space is limited, but hopefully 3 additional chars. will not make a big difference (2 spaces included).
I have purchased and use the Pro version of the control, which may be doing something strange. I know you can apply several effects, so this may be causing it. Actually, after typing this I remembered that I upgraded the control AFTER the last version of the software I put out. Let me know after the next release!
As for the other one, just turn off Dynamic Song Numbering. This means you can only have 99 songs on an album max, but it will get what you're after. I might think about an optional dash in the title (and it's only 2 additional chars....already one space, I'd add another space and a dash....just to be technical ;))
SK.
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Hey guys.
Just got this error...have been loading my "Now" albums.
when SK loads the program it comes up with
"run time error (6)
Over flow
Only just happened...any ideas please?
Are you using ID3 tags for the album/song information? In either case, you should note what album it crashes on (if it's at the point of loading the album), then perhaps move them out temporarily to see if that gets around the problem.
Let me know if this helps, so I can then analyze exactly where it's getting caught up.
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I add more albums to genre that already exists. Removing this genre has done the trick...now I will reload everything :)
Questions if you have a mo...
1.)is it possible to display pictures on the switch genre screen instead of just text...please?
2.)
THanks again!
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So soz SK for another q and apologies if you've already answered it?
Is it possible to select a whole album to play?
Daniel
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So soz SK for another q and apologies if you've already answered it?
Is it possible to select a whole album to play?
Daniel
Yeah, just posted this one page back in the thread :
For adding an entire album, use the song code '00'. There are a couple of options in the setup screen that you can use for it, one for displaying '00 All Tracks' in the song listing, and the other is to use the All Tracks feature without displaying it in the list.
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THanks SK!
I will go try that.
however I don't use the mouse, just an arcade cab so is it possible to play whole albums without a keyboard and mouse?
Also, on the genre screen is it possible to have album art displaying rather than text?
Thanks once again for your time :)
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THanks SK!
I will go try that.
however I don't use the mouse, just an arcade cab so is it possible to play whole albums without a keyboard and mouse?
That's fine, you don't need to use the mouse. If you want to play every song off of, say, album 145, you would enter track code '14500'. This will add every track to the queue.
As I said in the last reply, there are options surrounding this feature :
1) Feature is turned off totally
2) Can display '00 All Tracks' as the first available track in each album
3) Does not display the '00 All Tracks' selection, but will still work if you type '00' as the song number
Also, on the genre screen is it possible to have album art displaying rather than text?
I saw it when you asked the first time.....it's called 'selective replying' ;)
Not sure about this one. Won't flat out say 'no', but I'd say it's unlikely.
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SK,
Is it possible to setup the program that when you enter 00 for all tracks and the highlight bar highlights the 00 to make it like it has been selected with the mouse with the dotted lines around the highlight without having to click it with the mouse? That way we can use the up and down direction buttons to go through the list of songs for longer lists!
Thanks,
Jukeman
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SK,
Is it possible to setup the program that when you enter 00 for all tracks and the highlight bar highlights the 00 to make it like it has been selected with the mouse with the dotted lines around the highlight without having to click it with the mouse? That way we can use the up and down direction buttons to go through the list of songs for longer lists!
Thanks,
Jukeman
So simply set the focus to that list? OK, I'll add that option to the (very large now) to-do list. ;D
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Ok! How do i set the focus to the list?
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Ok! How do i set the focus to the list?
By waiting for me to put in the option I said I would add ;)
You may currently be able to Tab to the list, but that's hardly ideal.
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If i had to pay for the program does that mean i wouldn't get the attitude anymore?
All you had to say was: no, but i will add it to the request list.
Great program ---- poor attitude!
Jukeman
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If i had to pay for the program does that mean i wouldn't get the attitude anymore?
All you had to say was: no, but i will add it to the request list.
Great program ---- poor attitude!
Jukeman
God, not this crap again.....I said basically exactly that in my first reply :
So simply set the focus to that list? OK, I'll add that option to the (very large now) to-do list. ;D
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Hi!
I am trying to set up genres. I do all the right stuff in setting up the directory etc. but this happens.
I have arranged my music into dance music and eighties music and used 2 separate folders.
The program loads up and recognises dance as one genre and all the 80s stuff , despite all eing in one folder called eighties all come up as a separate genre!!! so I have like 200 genres instead of one for 80s!
How do I get round this?
Any ideas?
Thank you.
If PileDriver's post does not help, please post a screenshot of your folder tree, with both the Dance & 80s folders visible & expanded.
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What an incredible looking program....if I could only get it to play my mp3s...HELP PLEASE! :o)
I have read this whole forum and not seen my problem come up yet....I hope it's not something stupid i'm doing....wouldn't be the 1st time though.
Problem:
Installation worked great. I can run the program. I setup my mp3 folder in the "options" section and all works well. I can flip through all music and add tracks to playlist, etc. Everything seems to be working, BUT the program WIL NOT play my mp3's. The mp3 looks like it is loading in the bottom window and shows the track progress bar, however the song does not begin to play. Is their a "PLAY" button somewhere that I am missing? I can even skip forward in a song on the timeline, but it won't play. Am I missing a media player? My mp3's play just fine with mplayer and other programs.
Here are my computer specs:
AMD XP 2800 XP
ASUS A7V8X mb
300 gigs HD
1 gig mem
I tried registering all the dll's and such manually, as suggested earlier in this forum, but still the songs will not play. Frustrating because I know the guns loaded but it won't fire! :o)
Any help appreciated...Salmon?
Cheers,
Man without a jukebox and salivating over everyone elses.
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Perhaps another feature then, to either use folder structure for Genre reference, or the genre property on each file? This would help with compilations as for instance, it could randomize a Bon Jovi rock track from their album, then say Lenny Kravitz pulled from a compilation album.
ID3 support is in the program, which will read the properties from inside the MP3 files. Here's what I would do :
- Turn on ID3 support & hit Save
- Go back into the options screen & tick the Static Database option, then hit the Update Database button.
This way, SKJB will not have to go through and open every file to get its information, it will save it all to a couple of files.
Not sure if that fits in totally with what you said at the end of the quoted section, but try the above & let me know how you go!
Hope this helps!
SK.
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Installation worked great. I can run the program. I setup my mp3 folder in the "options" section and all works well. I can flip through all music and add tracks to playlist, etc. Everything seems to be working, BUT the program WIL NOT play my mp3's. The mp3 looks like it is loading in the bottom window and shows the track progress bar, however the song does not begin to play. Is their a "PLAY" button somewhere that I am missing? I can even skip forward in a song on the timeline, but it won't play. Am I missing a media player? My mp3's play just fine with mplayer and other programs.
eeeek.....there's an odd one! I know a problem like this came up right at the very start of SKJB, after I'd changed to the control I'm using now. Didn't realise it was a trial version, so after 30 days everyone's MP3's stopped playing! :(
Anyway, I don't think this is related to your problem....or maybe it is... I would assume if there was a DLL error, you'd get a crash when starting the program.
This is a long shot, but have you, by any chance, installed the demo version of this before :
http://www.multimediasoft.com/amp3dj/
This is the control I use to play the MP3 files, but if you have installed it before & never registered it, that may be where the problem is.
If you have, totally uninstall it then reinstall SKJB.
Sorry, but that's all I can think of!
SK.
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Thanks for the quick reply Salmonking. I don't remember ever installing the software you referenced.
Hmmm...I am stumped too. I recently updated my directx software from MS...I did this the day before I installed SKJ. Don't know if this matters though.
My soundcard is an m-audio semi-pro card...so maybe that is the culprit? Is there a way I can get into the settings of the media player engine you have used? For example, soundcard and driver settings?
Would really like to get this working....such a great prog!
Cheers.
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Thanks for the quick reply Salmonking. I don't remember ever installing the software you referenced.
Hmmm...I am stumped too. I recently updated my directx software from MS...I did this the day before I installed SKJ. Don't know if this matters though.
My soundcard is an m-audio semi-pro card...so maybe that is the culprit? Is there a way I can get into the settings of the media player engine you have used? For example, soundcard and driver settings?
Would really like to get this working....such a great prog!
Cheers.
hmmm...that's a possibility that it's being told to play on the 'wrong sound card'. Not really sure, it should just start playing on the default device. Perhaps that's it? In Control Panel - Sounds & Audio Devices, is there more than one sound device listed in the Sound Playback list?
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I can run the program. I setup my mp3 folder in the "options" section and all works well. I can flip through all music and add tracks to playlist, etc. Everything seems to be working, BUT the program WIL NOT play my mp3's. The mp3 looks like it is loading in the bottom window and shows the track progress bar, however the song does not begin to play. Is their a "PLAY" button somewhere that I am missing? I can even skip forward in a song on the timeline, but it won't play. Am I missing a media player? My mp3's play just fine with mplayer and other programs.
Here are my computer specs:
AMD XP 2800 XP
ASUS A7V8X mb
300 gigs HD
1 gig mem
M-Audio Semi-Pro sound Card
SK,
Could this problem possibly stem from the fact that he's got EAX enabled? His M-Audio soundcard supports EAX 2 (depending on when it was purchased). Anyhow, exact same symptoms that I had when I had EAX enabled on my SB Audigy card. Just my guess!
ClavMan8 - Try disabling EAX if you have it enabled.
Qaz
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SK,
Could this problem possibly stem from the fact that he's got EAX enabled? His M-Audio soundcard supports EAX 2 (depending on when it was purchased). Anyhow, exact same symptoms that I had when I had EAX enabled on my SB Audigy card. Just my guess!
ClavMan8 - Try disabling EAX if you have it enabled.
Qaz
If it is this, let me know so I can get onto the producers of the MP3 playing control I use & let them know about the issue.
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I appreciate your help guys...
I still have had no luck. My soundcard is the M-Audio Audiophile 2496 card which does not support EAX....m-audio does make the Revolution card which i think supports this (like the SB cards)
My settings in Control Panel are correct for audio playback. Every other audio program i have plays fine (albeit they also allow the user to go into audio options and setup the soundcard correctly) I am using winamp, windows media player, quicktime and have no problems.
Maybe its a Directx issue or Directshow. I ran the dxdiag diagnostic program and it ran through a series of tests. Most of the sounds in the test played, however i did get an error message "card does not support hardware buffering. Sounds will only play back from software buffers."
Other than that i am stumped. As I mentioned before, i don't get any error messgaes when running SKJukebox...all functions work accept the song never starts when loaded (i.e. the timeline shows the current song and song length, but stays at 0:00and no progress on the red timeline bar.
you're sure there is not a play button i'm missing? heheh
It would be nice if the program allowed you to go into an audio setup to select soundcard options like other progs allow for. Or if I could sub in another media player within the same interface. Anyhow, this seems to be isolated as so many others have the program working.
Cheers.
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I appreciate your help guys...
I still have had no luck. My soundcard is the M-Audio Audiophile 2496 card which does not support EAX....m-audio does make the Revolution card which i think supports this (like the SB cards)
My settings in Control Panel are correct for audio playback. Every other audio program i have plays fine (albeit they also allow the user to go into audio options and setup the soundcard correctly) I am using winamp, windows media player, quicktime and have no problems.
Maybe its a Directx issue or Directshow. I ran the dxdiag diagnostic program and it ran through a series of tests. Most of the sounds in the test played, however i did get an error message "card does not support hardware buffering. Sounds will only play back from software buffers."
Other than that i am stumped. As I mentioned before, i don't get any error messgaes when running SKJukebox...all functions work accept the song never starts when loaded (i.e. the timeline shows the current song and song length, but stays at 0:00and no progress on the red timeline bar.
you're sure there is not a play button i'm missing? heheh
It would be nice if the program allowed you to go into an audio setup to select soundcard options like other progs allow for. Or if I could sub in another media player within the same interface. Anyhow, this seems to be isolated as so many others have the program working.
Cheers.
Well, I'm sure I can add in an option for selecting the playback device. Strange that it'll load the song, I'm assuming it's giving you the length of the song? Odd....just plain odd ???
DirectX COULD be an issue, but can't be positive on that.
Is there any chance you can pop in a different sound card & see if that fixes it?
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ID3 support is in the program, which will read the properties from inside the MP3 files.
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I guess i'm kinda confused about genre setup, so let's see if this is right!
Music,
Genre,
Artist,
song.
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I believe PileDriver to be correct at the top of page 14 of this thread in that it goes...
music folder\genre\artist\album\songs.mp3
e.g. my music\Pop\Robbie Williams\Live at Knebworth\01 Angels.mp3
You can tell I'm English, and eagerly awaiting Robbie's tour next year! ;)
Cheers, Chalky
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What would be nice is for it to be changed and not have to put genre folder at beginniong of every artist.
If it could be changed to this:
My Music
Genre(Country)
Artist\Songs
Artist\Songs
Genre(Rock)
Artist\Songs
Artist\Songs
Otherwise if you have hundreds of folders then they all have to be changed.
Is this possible SK?
Jukeman
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What would be nice is for it to be changed and not have to put genre folder at beginniong of every artist.
If it could be changed to this:
My Music
Genre(Country)
Artist\Songs
Artist\Songs
Genre(Rock)
Artist\Songs
Artist\Songs
Otherwise if you have hundreds of folders then they all have to be changed.
Is this possible SK?
Jukeman
This is how the Genre system already works (unless I'm misunderstanding you). You can have as many albums under one Genre as you like, for example :
Pop\
Pop Artist 1\Album
Pop Artist 1\Album 2
Pop Artist 2\Album
Pop Artist 3\Album
Pop Artist 3\Album
Rock\
Rock Artist 1\Album
Rock Artist 1\Album 2
Rock Artist 1\Album 3
Rock Artist 2\Album
So, if you want to rename Rock to something else, renaming the directory will apply it to the 2 artists/4 albums in my example setup.
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I like the way SKJukebox does Genres. Of course, it was my 'wish list' item.
I guess, in a nutshell, here's what I see as the issue being raised: Where do singles go? How about compilation albums?
ROCK
Billy Joel albums
Greatest Hits Volume 1
Songs
Greatest Hits Volume 2
Billy Joel Singles
Uptown Girl
The hierarchy listed here isn't uniform. The 'system' works best if a fake album is created to house the singles. To function best, the song has to be at the fourth folder level.
ROCK
Billy Joel
Greatest Hits Volume 1
songs
Greatest Hits Volume 2
songs
Billy Joel Miscellaneous
Uptown Girl
Of course, then there's no artwork for the fake album. I tend to create fake artwork or download suitable images for the fake 'albums'.
If the majority of a person's collection is composed of complete CD's or LP's, the Genre system doesn't require much work.
If the majority of a person's collection consists of individual .mp3's obtained from 'various sources', or never grouped by artist and album, then they may have some real work to do to get the whole genre/album image/songlist structured to where it works.
It's worth the work on the user's part. Great program.
Brian
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When you add genres do you also have to add the location as to where the folders are in the setup screen.
Here's an example:
C:\My Music\Country
C:\My Music\Rock
Or if you have alread had it setup this way will it know the genres:
C:\My Music
Will it see the rest of the folders within this folder?
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When you add genres do you also have to add the location as to where the folders are in the setup screen.
Here's an example:
C:\My Music\Country
C:\My Music\Rock
Or if you have alread had it setup this way will it know the genres:
C:\My Music
Will it see the rest of the folders within this folder?
Yes, you just point it to the 'top level' folder, and tick the option to use 'First Part Of Directory Is Genre'. Then, when you add a new directory (like add C:\My Music\Pop), it'll be instantly available.
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Got it working, THANKS!
Jukeman
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Can SKjukebox play WMA files..? I bought a new album (chas and daves greatest hits on EMI ) and the copy protection on the disc means I can only save the disk to my HDD as WMA files..? What a cheek eh..!
If not does anyone how to convert from WMA to MP3 so SKJ can play it as my MP3 software dont seem to want to know..
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Can SKjukebox play WMA files..? I bought a new album (chas and daves greatest hits on EMI ) and the copy protection on the disc means I can only save the disk to my HDD as WMA files..? What a cheek eh..!
If not does anyone how to convert from WMA to MP3 so SKJ can play it as my MP3 software dont seem to want to know..
Get http://www.tunebite.com for all your DRM protection issues.....
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Can SKjukebox play WMA files..? I bought a new album (chas and daves greatest hits on EMI ) and the copy protection on the disc means I can only save the disk to my HDD as WMA files..? What a cheek eh..!
If not does anyone how to convert from WMA to MP3 so SKJ can play it as my MP3 software dont seem to want to know..
Yes, SKJB plays WMA files. As for protected files, I'm not so sure!
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Can SKjukebox play WMA files..? I bought a new album (chas and daves greatest hits on EMI ) and the copy protection on the disc means I can only save the disk to my HDD as WMA files..? What a cheek eh..!
If not does anyone how to convert from WMA to MP3 so SKJ can play it as my MP3 software dont seem to want to know..
All the copy protection schemes I know of can be bypassed by pressing shitf while putting the cd in the cd player. Have you tried that?
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I love the page turning sound but is there a way to keep the page turning sond on when not playing music but disable it when music is playing. This would also work well with the screensaver.
Thanks
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Installation worked great. I can run the program. I setup my mp3 folder in the "options" section and all works well. I can flip through all music and add tracks to playlist, etc. Everything seems to be working, BUT the program WIL NOT play my mp3's. The mp3 looks like it is loading in the bottom window and shows the track progress bar, however the song does not begin to play. Is their a "PLAY" button somewhere that I am missing? I can even skip forward in a song on the timeline, but it won't play. Am I missing a media player? My mp3's play just fine with mplayer and other programs.
eeeek.....there's an odd one! I know a problem like this came up right at the very start of SKJB, after I'd changed to the control I'm using now. Didn't realise it was a trial version, so after 30 days everyone's MP3's stopped playing! :(
Anyway, I don't think this is related to your problem....or maybe it is... I would assume if there was a DLL error, you'd get a crash when starting the program.
This is a long shot, but have you, by any chance, installed the demo version of this before :
http://www.multimediasoft.com/amp3dj/
This is the control I use to play the MP3 files, but if you have installed it before & never registered it, that may be where the problem is.
If you have, totally uninstall it then reinstall SKJB.
Sorry, but that's all I can think of!
SK.
Hi Salmon King!
I just wanted to report back on my earlier problem. I never did get the files to play using the M-Audio Soundcards....so i finished building my other mamecab computer, loaded SKJ on it and everything works fine using the built in Audio of the motherboard.
I have one issue...it's more of a program feature though. I use my mamecab for both "mame arcade" and "Jukebox". I have setup the operating system (winxp) to boot into a custom Welcome (logon) page that gives the user 2 options:
1. Play Mame Arcade (when selected, will load right into Mamewah frontend)
2. Play Jukebox (When selected will load right into SKJ)
Mamewah gives you the option on exit to Reboot, or run a program, etc.....I set it to simply run "C:\Windows\System32\Logoff.exe" which works perfect as it brings the user back to the Welcome Screen where they can choose an option again.
In SKJukebox, it would be great to have this option too...as it is now, SKJ will only allow me to turn off the computer. I don't know if it would be too difficult to implement a simple commanc line option on exit like mamewah?
I truley appreciate your efforts....you have built an incredible program.
Thanks,
Chris
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SK,
I ran across a really odd problem the other day, your program has been working with no problems until i wanted to change the order of the playlist. I right clicked the playlist went to verbose que(not sure on spelling) and proceeded to move one of the songs up the list. This worked fine but then while playing the songs i kept getting an error screen saying error in one of the .dll files and asking to close down sk jukebox. After i cleared the play list and put some more songs back in even some of the same songs it played fine.
Jukeman
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I love the page turning sound but is there a way to keep the page turning sond on when not playing music but disable it when music is playing. This would also work well with the screensaver.
Thanks
Hi,
on the options page - sound settings are two options: disable when song playing. try this
greetings
h.
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Best Jukebox Ever...
Anyone know of a way to shuffle between multiple genres? (and not all at once)
I.E Rock and Rap....leaving out country, Metal, etc...
Possible feature request?
Thanks....
By the way...you should post the donations page...I have had your jbox for a couple of months and just now found the link in there...
$$ on the way...
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In SKJukebox, it would be great to have this option too...as it is now, SKJ will only allow me to turn off the computer. I don't know if it would be too difficult to implement a simple commanc line option on exit like mamewah?
Sure, I think someone else wanted this as well. What I'll do is replace the existing 'Shutdown on close' option with a multiple selection :
1) Shutdown
2) Reboot (don't think this would be required, but just in case!)
3) Logoff
4) Run program (which would let you select the application to run, and give you the option of passing any command line parameters)
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Best Jukebox Ever...
Anyone know of a way to shuffle between multiple genres? (and not all at once)
I.E Rock and Rap....leaving out country, Metal, etc...
Possible feature request?
Thanks....
By the way...you should post the donations page...I have had your jbox for a couple of months and just now found the link in there...
$$ on the way...
So, you want to be able to select one or more genres? hmmm....that'd be a bit tricky, but I can add it to the WIP list.
Just a note for anyone interested, I'm almost finished with my holidays, and have yet to muster up the desire to work on SKJB. :( Looks like I'll have a busy weekend........
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Don't kid yourself SK.....MANY are INTERESTED!
Hope your holidays were great and just wanted to extend my appreciation for your efforts - your program is the best around bar none!
Thanks again for all you have done and shared....
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Don't kid yourself SK.....MANY are INTERESTED!
Hope your holidays were great and just wanted to extend my appreciation for your efforts - your program is the best around bar none!
Thanks again for all you have done and shared....
I did get into some programming yesterday, this is what I managed :
06/01/2006 : Can now display hidden album art
Refreshing albums will no longer 'clear' the credit count
Saving options will no longer clear the credit count (only problem here is you could change the
maximum credits LESS than what's currently in the counter)
Added an option to display ' - ' between the track number & title
Added an option to set the program's focus to the full list, so you can then arrow up & down to get
to the track you want. This ONLY happens when you type in a matching track number (i.e. it doesn't
currently select the first song on the album when you type in the album number)
There's also the Equalizer that I really want to get out there. It's done & dusted, just waiting on a couple of other things before I put it out there.....It's been held back for WAY too long now!!! :(
I really want to get the touchscreen controls working nice, but if I can't do that in the next couple of days, I will release it as is.
SK.
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Sounds GREAT! Hope you had a happy holiday. Looking forward to your up comming release.
BobA ;D
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Saturday night at a party, I had about 50 songs queued. Some dude says, play green day song NOW ::). It was in the list, but about 25 songs down. Anyway we can make a song in the list next, without clearing the list?
Thanks again for a great program.
Art
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A "move to top" option.
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Maybe precede the Green Day choice with the keypress "I" for immediate, i.e. press "i", then choose album and then track, and the track plays immediately?
Perhaps options such as this need an admin code first before "i" is unlocked, in this way party goers cannot hijack everyone else's playlist by jumping the queue with their own choices all the time? I would say that the "c" for clear option would require the admin code first too.
Good suggestion from Jack. A real-life "party on" feature request! ;D
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Saturday night at a party, I had about 50 songs queued. Some dude says, play green day song NOW ::). It was in the list, but about 25 songs down. Anyway we can make a song in the list next, without clearing the list?
Thanks again for a great program.
Art
You can do this by hitting L (by default). This is where you can manage the queue, moving songs up/down, remove one, or even use the Mix It Up button to shuffle the current queue.
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I have a small problem installing SKjukebox..
It runs fine on my XP setup but i cant get it to run on a fresh install of win98SE..? The error message i get is:
COMPONENT 'MSCOMCTL.OCX' OR ONE OF ITS DEPENDENCIES NOT CORRECTLY REGISTARD: A FILE IS MISSING OR INVALID.
I dont really know how to solve this. Please help.
Thankyou
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I have a small problem installing SKjukebox..
It runs fine on my XP setup but i cant get it to run on a fresh install of win98SE..? The error message i get is:
COMPONENT 'MSCOMCTL.OCX' OR ONE OF ITS DEPENDENCIES NOT CORRECTLY REGISTARD: A FILE IS MISSING OR INVALID.
I dont really know how to solve this. Please help.
Thankyou
The VB6 Runtimes from the site SHOULD install this file, but I have heard of this file not being installed for some reason. I you haven't installed them though, please do so. If you have, I have put the file on the site, so just download this file :
http://www.mameworld.net/skjukebox/install/MSCOMCTL.rar
Then extract it to your Windows\System directory. That should fix the problem, but let me know if you have any more problems.
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Thank you very much Mr King, that solved my problem.
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SK,
I ran across a really odd problem the other day, your program has been working with no problems until i wanted to change the order of the playlist. I right clicked the playlist went to verbose que(not sure on spelling) and proceeded to move one of the songs up the list. This worked fine but then while playing the songs i kept getting an error screen saying error in one of the .dll files and asking to close down sk jukebox. After i cleared the play list and put some more songs back in even some of the same songs it played fine.
Jukeman
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SK,
I ran across a really odd problem the other day, your program has been working with no problems until i wanted to change the order of the playlist. I right clicked the playlist went to verbose que(not sure on spelling) and proceeded to move one of the songs up the list. This worked fine but then while playing the songs i kept getting an error screen saying error in one of the .dll files and asking to close down sk jukebox. After i cleared the play list and put some more songs back in even some of the same songs it played fine.
Jukeman
Did it give you the name of the DLL that was having problems, or any other information along with it? If it happens again, perhaps take a screen shot of it & send it to me.
And..... version 2.8.0 is FINALLY online! Check it out! :)
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And..... version 2.8.0 is FINALLY online! Check it out! :)
Thanks! Having an equalizer is a great addition, since few of us use amps with any kind of tone controls. I don't.
But then seeing that it has tempo/speed/pitch controls was more than icing on the cake. Almost all of my mp3's are recordings of LP's, and their pitch is not perfect. I like to occassionally play along on the piano or guitar. Now I can.
Nice surprise to wake up to this morning.
Brian
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But then seeing that it has tempo/speed/pitch controls was more than icing on the cake. Almost all of my mp3's are recordings of LP's, and their pitch is not perfect. I like to occassionally play along on the piano or guitar. Now I can.
hah......I basically only put them in as a 'toy', so I'm glad someone will get some use out of those settings! :D
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SK,
Can't help you out at the moment on the .ddl file that caused the problem with rearanging the playlist. My motherboard which was old anyway and my hard drive took a crash so it's going to be a few days before i pick something else up.
I will let you know if i run across the problem again!
Jukeman
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Hey SK,
Don't think that this issue is listed thus far, and it's not fixed in the latest 2.8.0 release.
After SKJ has been playing for probably half hour to an hour uninterrupted, the songs start jittering, similar to when you're using the scrollwheel on your mouse to browse around an internet page - that can cause the music to jitter to, but in this scenario it's fine because SKJ should really be allowed to operate on it's own.
If I restart the jittering track (by pressing F5 for example) the jittering continues, but if I restart SKJ it goes away and the same track plays fine.
I can't see evidence of a memory leak as I watched the Task Manager for about half an hour and the memory usage is pretty static.
Any ideas oh knowledgeable one? ;) Cheers, Chalky
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Hey SK,
Don't think that this issue is listed thus far, and it's not fixed in the latest 2.8.0 release.
After SKJ has been playing for probably half hour to an hour uninterrupted, the songs start jittering, similar to when you're using the scrollwheel on your mouse to browse around an internet page - that can cause the music to jitter to, but in this scenario it's fine because SKJ should really be allowed to operate on it's own.
If I restart the jittering track (by pressing F5 for example) the jittering continues, but if I restart SKJ it goes away and the same track plays fine.
I can't see evidence of a memory leak as I watched the Task Manager for about half an hour and the memory usage is pretty static.
Any ideas oh knowledgeable one? ;) Cheers, Chalky
Chalky -
It's probably helpful if you list your system specs and anything else that is running while you notice the issue. I personally have not experienced this on my PIII 400 running XP with 192mb memory. It's dedicated to Jukebox only, so I'm not running much (Antivirus, Girder, plus a couple other "little" helper apps).
Just my 2 cents.....
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Good call JLR,
I'm running an AMD Athlon 1700+, with 512Mb RAM, and XP Home SP2.
Running in the system tray are MSN Messenger, Grisoft Anti-Virus, Logitech QuickCam, Skype 2.0.
This is my main machine using to rip all the music, so that's going on using WMP10.
Hope this helps? Chalky
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I love the equaliser - thanks. Is there anyway for it to stay on with the same preset the next time I start the program?
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I love the equaliser - thanks. Is there anyway for it to stay on with the same preset the next time I start the program?
Yep, I made a note on the site just after I uploaded the latest version :
"Oh, something I meant to mention that I don't think is mentioned anywhere else. There is an option to restore your Equalizer settings in the General Settings section, if you want to use it."
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SK, good to see your latest update. Just one thing, am I missing something or just too thick for the modern age? Yes, apparently!!!
I can't find an equalizer or any sound controls in the latest version. I updated by downloading as instructed and unzipped all to the installed directory. Other mods that you mention are there but no sound controls.......
Found it!!
:D
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Good call JLR,
I'm running an AMD Athlon 1700+, with 512Mb RAM, and XP Home SP2.
Running in the system tray are MSN Messenger, Grisoft Anti-Virus, Logitech QuickCam, Skype 2.0.
This is my main machine using to rip all the music, so that's going on using WMP10.
Hope this helps? Chalky
Is you music collection local or on the network? I'm not sure I can help here but I'm trying to flush out the questions so that maybe others can give some input.....
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Hi SK,
Just wanted to comment on the EQ ... very nice addition!!, sound output is so much more robust as compared to before without EQ settings available. Also, thank you for the changes regarding the display of track titles and the fix on the credits. ;D Much appreciated.
However, the bad news is (which I'm sure you don't want to hear) is that the EAX problem hasn't gone away with the release of the new MP3 playing controls. :( EAX still gets disabled and no sound output from SJ Jukebox after first song till it's restarted . I wonder if perhaps I'm the only one with this problem? Haven't seen any mention of it from the other users out there.
Anyhow, thanks for your hard work.
Qaz
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SK,
Does the player software you use have a read a head buffer for the mp3's? This would greatly reduce hard drive use. I don't know if any computer mp3 software does this or not but would be nice and besides the computer definately has enough memory.
Thanks,
Jukeman
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Hi SK,
Just wanted to comment on the EQ ... very nice addition!!, sound output is so much more robust as compared to before without EQ settings available. Also, thank you for the changes regarding the display of track titles and the fix on the credits. ;D Much appreciated.
However, the bad news is (which I'm sure you don't want to hear) is that the EAX problem hasn't gone away with the release of the new MP3 playing controls. :( EAX still gets disabled and no sound output from SJ Jukebox after first song till it's restarted . I wonder if perhaps I'm the only one with this problem? Haven't seen any mention of it from the other users out there.
Anyhow, thanks for your hard work.
Qaz
Glad you enjoyed the update! I have passed your problem on to the creators of the MP3 playing control, so hopefully they should be able to help. It certainly is a strange problem!
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SK,
Does the player software you use have a read a head buffer for the mp3's? This would greatly reduce hard drive use. I don't know if any computer mp3 software does this or not but would be nice and besides the computer definately has enough memory.
Thanks,
Jukeman
I'm pretty certain that the entire MP3 is loaded into memory when it starts playing...I haven't noticed any HDD activity while a song is playing. That's why on some older systems, there is a small delay between songs, as it's doing all the work at that point. I could be wrong on this, however! If I wanted, I can FORCE this, by loading the song into the MP3 control from memory already, but I don't think I need to. I would just be replicating what is already happening (i.e. loading the entire file from the HDD into memory, then playing that).
However, that's only the currently playing song, none of the other songs in the queue are looked at until they start playing (if that's what you meant). I could also load up the song into memory as you queue up the song, but I think that would cause slowdown at the worst possible spot : while a song is playing! At least how it is now, the only pause is in between songs.
I hope that covers what you were asking!
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However, the bad news is (which I'm sure you don't want to hear) is that the EAX problem hasn't gone away with the release of the new MP3 playing controls. :( EAX still gets disabled and no sound output from SJ Jukebox after first song till it's restarted . I wonder if perhaps I'm the only one with this problem? Haven't seen any mention of it from the other users out there.
hmmm....they suggested you upgrade your soundcard drivers. I have an Audigy here and do not have the problems you are having (and I did try turning on EAX, worked fine in the program, and when I shut it down....I was able to go into the EAX settings with the program running as well). ???
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In SKJukebox, it would be great to have this option too...as it is now, SKJ will only allow me to turn off the computer. I don't know if it would be too difficult to implement a simple commanc line option on exit like mamewah?
Sure, I think someone else wanted this as well. What I'll do is replace the existing 'Shutdown on close' option with a multiple selection :
1) Shutdown
2) Reboot (don't think this would be required, but just in case!)
3) Logoff
4) Run program (which would let you select the application to run, and give you the option of passing any command line parameters)
Hi and Thanks SalmonKing!!! That was Quick....I am loving your program and your support is incredible. Thats so much.
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Hi and Thanks SalmonKing!!! That was Quick....I am loving your program and your support is incredible. Thats so much.
No probs, will try & get it into the program this weekend. :D
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However, the bad news is (which I'm sure you don't want to hear) is that the EAX problem hasn't gone away with the release of the new MP3 playing controls. :( EAX still gets disabled and no sound output from SJ Jukebox after first song till it's restarted . I wonder if perhaps I'm the only one with this problem? Haven't seen any mention of it from the other users out there.
hmmm....they suggested you upgrade your soundcard drivers. I have an Audigy here and do not have the problems you are having (and I did try turning on EAX, worked fine in the program, and when I shut it down....I was able to go into the EAX settings with the program running as well). ???
Double Hmmmm..!! Now, I'm really confused. That was one of the first things I did, was to try it with updated drivers. That was about 2 weeks back. I doubt your drivers would be newer than mine at this point. And what's even more odd is that it's not just my machine, I've duplicated this problem across a number of different machines with various hardware configurations, but with enough juice under the hood to run any modern day app. The only absolute commonality between all the tested machines is that I used the SB Audigy card in each (running included drivers initially and latest drivers eventually to test).
Did you try more than one track, cuz it always works on first track played? Basically, here's the order of testing...
1) Make sure EAX is enabled via Creative's EAX Console.
2) Startup SKJB
3) Queue first song.. can wait for it to finish or just use Next Track if multiple songs are queued. If single song added, add another after first one is done or while playing.
4) It's the first song that plays fine, next and subsequent songs that are added will appear to be playing, but no sound output.
5) While SKJB still running, go check EAX console.. try change something, nothings's really there all settings will be blank.
6) Shutdown SKJB. EAX back to normal.
7)Startup SKJB. Anything will play again, but only for the first song.
Well, anyhow.. thanks for your efforts..
Qaz
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I'm pretty certain that the entire MP3 is loaded into memory when it starts playing...I haven't noticed any HDD activity while a song is playing. That's why on some older systems, there is a small delay between songs, as it's doing all the work at that point. I could be wrong on this, however! If I wanted, I can FORCE this, by loading the song into the MP3 control from memory already, but I don't think I need to. I would just be replicating what is already happening (i.e. loading the entire file from the HDD into memory, then playing that).
That fits with my new juke machine experiences SK, there is a 4 second pause between tracks when running the program on a very fast laptop, but over a standard USB cable to an external hard disk. If I run the harddisk on a USB2 machine, the pause is almost not noticed. Better to load the complete track before playing than risk the track breaking up whilst trying to retrieve the track over a slow link IMO.
USB2 rocks! The external harddisk by the way is the Smartdisk Crossfire 160Gb USB2. It's totally simply to hook up and very fast over USB2. My complete music collection only totals about 40Gb recorded at 192Kbps, so I've plenty of space for the future! (380 albums which SKJ handles with ease)
Cheers, Chalky
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After an evening using SKJ, my wife and I had an idea for stats whilst the songs are playing.
Traditional jukes sometimes have a top5 or 10 played tracks flashing past, which is normally only represented by the album and track numbers. Perhaps SKJ can scroll through the most popular tracks played ever, that week, or that day, and include the album cover? I would suggest this takes the form of an SKJ screensaver.
Last night "Something to Talk About" by Badly Drawn Boy must have been the most popular, but if the stat was to change to most played ever, then perhaps "Danger High Voltage" by Electric 6 would be up there, as my mates stick that on over and over again. ::)
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Double Hmmmm..!! Now, I'm really confused. That was one of the first things I did, was to try it with updated drivers. That was about 2 weeks back. I doubt your drivers would be newer than mine at this point. And what's even more odd is that it's not just my machine, I've duplicated this problem across a number of different machines with various hardware configurations, but with enough juice under the hood to run any modern day app. The only absolute commonality between all the tested machines is that I used the SB Audigy card in each (running included drivers initially and latest drivers eventually to test).
Did you try more than one track, cuz it always works on first track played? Basically, here's the order of testing...
1) Make sure EAX is enabled via Creative's EAX Console.
2) Startup SKJB
3) Queue first song.. can wait for it to finish or just use Next Track if multiple songs are queued. If single song added, add another after first one is done or while playing.
4) It's the first song that plays fine, next and subsequent songs that are added will appear to be playing, but no sound output.
5) While SKJB still running, go check EAX console.. try change something, nothings's really there all settings will be blank.
6) Shutdown SKJB. EAX back to normal.
7)Startup SKJB. Anything will play again, but only for the first song.
Well, anyhow.. thanks for your efforts..
Qaz
Sorry, that's exactly how I tested and it's still not doing it here. A while back, with an older version of their control, it WOULD 'lock' the soundcard. I'm wondering if you're not using an older version of the control still perhaps...... maybe look for any copy of amp3dj.ocx on your hard drive(s). Make sure you have just the one, dated the 8th of December.
Hope that helps!
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After an evening using SKJ, my wife and I had an idea for stats whilst the songs are playing.
Traditional jukes sometimes have a top5 or 10 played tracks flashing past, which is normally only represented by the album and track numbers. Perhaps SKJ can scroll through the most popular tracks played ever, that week, or that day, and include the album cover? I would suggest this takes the form of an SKJ screensaver.
Last night "Something to Talk About" by Badly Drawn Boy must have been the most popular, but if the stat was to change to most played ever, then perhaps "Danger High Voltage" by Electric 6 would be up there, as my mates stick that on over and over again. ::)
Logging what songs are played has been on the to-do list for a while now. With the songs played logged to a file, stats like that will be very easy.
I'll see if I can elevate this feature up the list a little. ;)
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It took me 3 days of searching for a good jukebox program before I found yours - congratulations on the best out there!
There are a few small features that I'm either not seeing, or that don't exist.
1) If you enter full view when typing a song number, can it close that view once/if all the tracks of that album are queued, or if the display is left idle for a set time period?
2) For those of us with dual monitors, can it remember which screen it was on when it last closed?
3) I swear there was a #3...
4) I can't get it to run under wine in linux. Has anyone tried this before and got it working?
SK Jukebox is by far and away the best album-based jukebox I've come across. VMJ is almost there, but as slow as a tortoise being led by a lethargic snail.
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VMJ is almost there, but as slow as a tortoise being led by a lethargic snail.
;D ;D
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It took me 3 days of searching for a good jukebox program before I found yours - congratulations on the best out there!
There are a few small features that I'm either not seeing, or that don't exist.
1) If you enter full view when typing a song number, can it close that view once/if all the tracks of that album are queued, or if the display is left idle for a set time period?
2) For those of us with dual monitors, can it remember which screen it was on when it last closed?
3) I swear there was a #3...
4) I can't get it to run under wine in linux. Has anyone tried this before and got it working?
SK Jukebox is by far and away the best album-based jukebox I've come across. VMJ is almost there, but as slow as a tortoise being led by a lethargic snail.
Thanks for the positive feedback! ;D
Anyway, on to the questions.... :
1) So, you want the full view to remain open if you only pick one song, but close if you pick '00 All Tracks'? Not totally sure how best to handle the 'close after x seconds' issue....it's been on my to-do list longer than any of the other features!
2) I've not used dual monitors ever, so doing that would be a real challenge! Can you set it up in your video card drivers? Do most other apps remember? If it's just remembering the x & y (and height & width) of the unmaximized window, that's not hard at all, but if it's something else (i.e. you've maximized the app on the 2nd screen), then I'm not sure if I could do it or not. Would certainly check it out, if you can clarify these points.
3) There is no #3......move along ;D
4) I haven't tried it, so hopefully someone else out there has had some experience with it. :-\
SK.
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About dualscreen:
This option is only workable when the desktop is expanded (not cloned). On that mode, it very easy. I saw a thread in the Purebasic, how the desktop was setup on the second screen (say: coods). I was going to make a dll to wipe that one.....
But when working directly with graphicscard and fullscreen (wich send directly to the another graphicscard), this option is allmost impossible without a lots of trouble because there are limits on Windows and Drivers. I expermented with that, but and gave up....
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First of all, let me just say how wonderful SK Jukebox is. Thanks, SalmonKing!
This is my first post, so here's a bit of history:
I went to a local diner the other day and fiddled around with the jukebox and thought, "Wouldn't it be a great idea to have a jukebox that plays MP3 songs!" When I got home, I searched the Net and lo and behold! There is a community of MP3 jukebox afficionados out there (or should I say, in here :P )! I was
reading the BYOAC forums and tried to download some of the software mentioned. I went to the Virtual Music Jukebox website, loved the screenshot, and tried to download the installer, but at 18+ megs, I had to beg off. I settled (duh!) for SK Jukebox, installed it in seconds and got it up and running. When I loaded my songs, I encountered an error. It turns out the MP3 files in my Pussycat Dolls album folder were corrupted (either that, or the cheesy music filter in SK Jukebox is on by default, hehehe). Quickly took the folder out of my collection, and loved SK Jukebox. That was 3 nights ago. The next night, I downloaded VMJ, Uncle T's, and Jukeboxer and installed them, for comparison. Although, they were also good pieces of software, I promptly went back to SK Jukebox.
Been steadily playing around with the options.
Once again, great program, SK. Kudos!
Comments to come...
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1) So, you want the full view to remain open if you only pick one song, but close if you pick '00 All Tracks'? Not totally sure how best to handle the 'close after x seconds' issue....it's been on my to-do list longer than any of the other features!
Hi SK, how about using the same routine you utilise for the screensaver, whereby if nothing is chosen in full view for 300 secs (default), SKJ jumps into screensaver mode, then reverts back to the normal view when the mouse is moved.
Chalky
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2) I've not used dual monitors ever, so doing that would be a real challenge! Can you set it up in your video card drivers? Do most other apps remember? If it's just remembering the x & y (and height & width) of the unmaximized window, that's not hard at all, but if it's something else (i.e. you've maximized the app on the 2nd screen), then I'm not sure if I could do it or not. Would certainly check it out, if you can clarify these points.
It is just co-ordinates so you should be able to save to position without and problem, drop me a pm if you are stuck.
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1) So, you want the full view to remain open if you only pick one song, but close if you pick '00 All Tracks'? Not totally sure how best to handle the 'close after x seconds' issue....it's been on my to-do list longer than any of the other features!
Yes, that's it. Regarding the close after x seconds: How about starting a timer when the program goes into full view, and each time the user selects a song the timer gets reset? If it reaches it's max it goes back to normal view. I think this would work even when it wasn't the focused app, when the screensaver option wouldn't.
2) I've not used dual monitors ever, so doing that would be a real challenge! Can you set it up in your video card drivers? Do most other apps remember? If it's just remembering the x & y (and height & width) of the unmaximized window, that's not hard at all, but if it's something else (i.e. you've maximized the app on the 2nd screen), then I'm not sure if I could do it or not. Would certainly check it out, if you can clarify these points.
I'm pretty sure it's just a case of remembering the coords. I do have it maximised though. (not full screen, still windowed) . If this is trickier, would remembering the last unmaximised coords and then maximising the window work?
Most other apps do remember, and can maximise themselves on the right window.
I'm not sure that the driver settings come into it as my second monitor is actually run off a seperate graphics card.
(You really should get a second monitor. It makes programming of any sort so much easier.)
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Yes, that's it. Regarding the close after x seconds: How about starting a timer when the program goes into full view, and each time the user selects a song the timer gets reset? If it reaches it's max it goes back to normal view. I think this would work even when it wasn't the focused app, when the screensaver option wouldn't.
Yeah, I had a good think about it yesterday and think I have come up with a couple of ideas. The issue is, what about other keys like volume up/down, etc....should they have an effect on when the album closes? With a screensaver, I am looking for ANY keypress, but I'm thinking there may be exceptions to this new function. Obviously, it'll be ALOT easier to just register any keypress and just reset the timer.
I'm pretty sure it's just a case of remembering the coords. I do have it maximised though. (not full screen, still windowed) . If this is trickier, would remembering the last unmaximised coords and then maximising the window work?
I KNOW I can restore an unmaximized window to a position, as I do it in alot of apps (surprised it hasn't come up with SKJB before now!). With maximized windows, I would just return to that state. Now we throw in the dual monitors and I enter an unknown realm. I'm sure the unmaximized window will still work as normal, it's just the maximizing that I'm not sure about. All I can do is try & let someone with a dual screen setup (like you) try it & let me know if it works.
(You really should get a second monitor. It makes programming of any sort so much easier.)
You'll have to convince my boss at work........and my wife here ;)
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OK, I've done some changes and they've gone pretty well.
As I've said, I have no idea if this will work on dual monitor setups, but I guess time will tell.
The 'close full view after x seconds' is around 65% of the way there. I have hard coded it to 10 seconds for the time being, and ANY keypress will reset the timer. Now I have to cover the mouse/touchscreen events which should reset the timer as well, and of course put in an option to change the time to wait.
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OK, I've read this thread from start to finish, so I'm sure this wasn't mentioned before.
I have about 1500+ albums on my hard drive and have them set up this way:
C:\Single artists\Artist - Album\Artist - Track Number - Title.mp3
e.g., Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here\Pink Floyd - 03 - Have A Cigar.mp3
C:\Compilation\Various Artists - Album\Track Number - Artist - Title.mp3
e.g., Various Artists - Pulp Fiction OST\04 - Al Green - Let's Stay Together.mp3
I've checked "Utilize ID3 Tags for Naming Information". I noticed that SK Jukebox just gets the artist name from the first track in the album and applies that as the artist name for the whole album. This is not a problem for single artists, but for compilation albums like soundtracks, it comes out like this:
In the Pulp Fiction example above, "Dick Dale" sings the first track. In the 4-album or full album view, SK Jukebox lists "Dick Dale" as the artist and "Pulp Fiction OST" as the album. For all tracks in the album, it would list "Dick Dale" as the artist in the Now Playing screen, such that track 4 would read:
Dick Dale
Pulp Fiction OST
Let's Stay Together
Is there a way to let SK Jukebox read the ID3 artist tag from each MP3 and show this in the Now Playing screen? How do I make "Various Artists" come out as the artist in the 4-album or full album view (SK could easily get it from my directory structure)? If I uncheck "Utilize ID3 Tags...", I get the full filename as the track title.
Thanks once again, SK, for a wonderful program and for great support!
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Is there a way to let SK Jukebox read the ID3 artist tag from each MP3 and show this in the Now Playing screen? How do I make "Various Artists" come out as the artist in the 4-album or full album view (SK could easily get it from my directory structure)? If I uncheck "Utilize ID3 Tags...", I get the full filename as the track title.
I guess if I find a song with a different artist with the same album name, in the same directory, I could change the artist to 'Various'. I would also then incorporate the artist name into the track name in these instances. Let me have a tinker!
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Tinkering has been done, and here's the list of things so far in the next release :
22/01/2006 : The program will now return to the 4 album view after the full view has been brought up, and no key
has been pressed or mouse clicks have occured in 10 seconds (hard coded for now, will put in an option
for the number of seconds shortly)
Full view is closed if you select '00 All Tracks'
Now remembers the window position, which I HOPE will work with dual screen setups
If using ID3 to get the track info, it will now change the album's artist to 'Various' if it finds a
track that belongs to the same album but with a different artist. It will also append the artist
names to the track names listed.
I won't be able to upload until tomorrow at the earliest, however.
SK.
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Wow! My first request and you incorporated it in the next release. What can I say? You're one of a kind. Thanks again.
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Development rate is indeed impressive.
Just a question, I have plenty of .oggs, and while they play fine, SKJ doesn't pick up their tags. Directory/file naming works though, so I'm using that instead.
Is this the case, or have I missed something?
You can get a second-hand monitor and graphics card for almost peanuts. It doesn't need to do any fancy graphics, after all.
You could almost do with your own forum somewhere, a 16 page thread is a bit unwieldy...
EDIT: Any chance of allowing only one instance of the program at a time?
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Just a question, I have plenty of .oggs, and while they play fine, SKJ doesn't pick up their tags. Directory/file naming works though, so I'm using that instead.
Is this the case, or have I missed something?
The only tagging available at the moment is MP3 tags (ID3v1 & v2). I'll have a look at OGG tagging at some stage.
You could almost do with your own forum somewhere, a 16 page thread is a bit unwieldy...
Yeah, it's something I've thought about. There's no real need to keep adding to this thread, though, as I check the 'Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Forum' almost every day. If it's obvious the new thread is about SKJB, that's even better.
EDIT: Any chance of allowing only one instance of the program at a time?
Sure, I'll add that to the to-do list. :)
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Yeah, it's something I've thought about. There's no real need to keep adding to this thread, though, as I check the 'Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Forum' almost every day. If it's obvious the new thread is about SKJB, that's even better.
SK, I can set you up with your own at EC if you like. Just give me a yell.
Cheers,
Brad
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Hello
Thanks for update
Just a little thing, is it possible to add a function to display in full view the Album cover of the current song ?
bauhaus
Just a question, I have plenty of .oggs, and while they play fine, SKJ doesn't pick up their tags. Directory/file naming works though, so I'm using that instead.
Is this the case, or have I missed something?
The only tagging available at the moment is MP3 tags (ID3v1 & v2). I'll have a look at OGG tagging at some stage.
You could almost do with your own forum somewhere, a 16 page thread is a bit unwieldy...
Yeah, it's something I've thought about. There's no real need to keep adding to this thread, though, as I check the 'Audio/Jukebox/MP3 Forum' almost every day. If it's obvious the new thread is about SKJB, that's even better.
EDIT: Any chance of allowing only one instance of the program at a time?
Sure, I'll add that to the to-do list. :)
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I know video support has been suggested and I think that would be awesome, but have you ever thought of adding a startup video option like in MAMEWah?
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I know video support has been suggested and I think that would be awesome, but have you ever thought of adding a startup video option like in MAMEWah?
I'll probably look at doing this when video support is added. Still no idea when I'll look at it, however! :)
SK.
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Love the updates.
It now remembers the monitor it was on when it was closed, and remaximises itself. The splash screen is still on the primary monitor though, but that isn't a problem. I've had that with other programs.
Going back to full screen after selecting 'all tracks' also works brilliantly.
Many thanks.
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Love the updates.
It now remembers the monitor it was on when it was closed, and remaximises itself. The splash screen is still on the primary monitor though, but that isn't a problem. I've had that with other programs.
Going back to full screen after selecting 'all tracks' also works brilliantly.
Many thanks.
Great, glad to hear that it works! :D
Yeah, I had my doubts about the splash screen, and meant to mention it. Not sure if there's a hell of alot I can do about it, but I'll check it out at some stage.
SK.
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Yeah, I had my doubts about the splash screen, and meant to mention it. Not sure if there's a hell of alot I can do about it, but I'll check it out at some stage.
SK.
I managed to get the splash screen opening on the 2nd monitor by setting the options for skjukebox.exe in the "desktop management" settings within the Nvidia Drivers. The only problem is now the "Genre" box opens on the primary monitor when the program loads, but all other windows work fin forced to the second monitor . Hope that makes sense
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I managed to get the splash screen opening on the 2nd monitor by setting the options for skjukebox.exe in the "desktop management" settings within the Nvidia Drivers. The only problem is now the "Genre" box opens on the primary monitor when the program loads, but all other windows work fin forced to the second monitor . Hope that makes sense
Now that's one I should be able to control. The problem with the splash screen & genre boxes is that they are loaded before the main screen has been loaded/sized.
Thinking as I'm typing this.........I think I've thought of a way to fix up both boxes! ;D
Let me have a tinker.
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Is there anyway to make the fullscreen album (during selection) stay on longer than 10 seconds before losing your selection? Sometimes its hard to pick the exact song you want before it resets to the multiple album selection.
I hope I described that well enough.
Dan
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Wow, SK has been upgraded to a 'Moderator'. Congrats! Does that include a pay raise?!? ;D
Resume normal programming.
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Is there anyway to make the fullscreen album (during selection) stay on longer than 10 seconds before losing your selection? Sometimes its hard to pick the exact song you want before it resets to the multiple album selection.
I hope I described that well enough.
Dan
Not currently, as it was something I added more for a test rather than anything else. I will include this as an option in the next release, so you can turn it off, or change the number of seconds before it goes back.