Yet Another Jukebox Program

[Freeplay]

I'm running 2.6.1

i'll try thr 2.6.2 upgrade
Thanks

[Barry Barcrest]

If he's using this,
http://www.multimediasoft.com/amp3dj/screenshots.html

Which it looks like he is then adding an EQ is easy peasy. This is the same OCX ThePCJukebox uses i believe.

I like the album cover scrolling I have just had a quick play, it does seem like it doesn't read ID3 tags correctly though as a couple of albums showed up as TRack01, Track02 etc but i know they are tagged.

I am using the Light version (it's all I need), so Paypal me the $$$'s to upgrade it to the Professional version and I will add it when I get the time.

[digitaldj]

I could have so much to say about people writing software putting it out for everyone and then not wanting to improve it, i just gota keep my mouth shut.

I will say though if your going to have a mame cabinet for games then build a jukebox for music and ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- can the mame jukebox crap.

Saloman, i like what you have going with your software, but if you and VMJ would get together since you have dependabilty and VMJ has looks and professional layout you guys would have a great program. You guys need to put your pride aside and develope some great software for us users and maybe you guys could make some real profit from it.

Everybody is heading toward touch screen setups but that's not old true jukebox flare.
My two cents worth!
Kevin

[billf]

I'm sure SK will pipe in, but I felt I had to respond to some of your comments digitaldj.

I could have so much to say about people writing software putting it out for everyone and then not wanting to improve it, i just gota keep my mouth shut.

Jeez, have a little gratitude.

[SalmonKing]

Hmm ok, i didn't notice the difference as i use ACTIVE movie for my jukebox, but i just thought it was included. If i had a spare $100 i think i would use it to pay some of my bills so i guess you are stuck with lite. However you should have used that response in reply to the original question rather than saying you woul not include an EQ full stop

Enjoy
 

I don't mean to be bitchy about it, but it IS my program, and I have put alot of work into it.  If I choose not to add a requested feature, that's my right.  The fact that it is already in the readme.txt is also a reason..... 

No Can Do  : Working on cross-fading (Unfortunatly, too hard, so is now forgotten about)
             
             *** EDIT : I could potentially do it with the new control, but would have to spend another $200 to upgrade to the 'Deluxe' version.  Not going to spend that money for such a small option! 

             Have an equalizer option to adjust the levels
   
              *** See above, I can do this with an upgraded version, but not currently


HOWEVER, I do apologize for my post sounding a little abrupt.  A simple explaination initially would have been better.

[SalmonKing]

I could have so much to say about people writing software putting it out for everyone and then not wanting to improve it, i just gota keep my mouth shut.

I will say though if your going to have a mame cabinet for games then build a jukebox for music and ---Cleavland steamer--- can the mame jukebox crap.

Saloman, i like what you have going with your software, but if you and VMJ would get together since you have dependabilty and VMJ has looks and professional layout you guys would have a great program. You guys need to put your pride aside and develope some great software for us users and maybe you guys could make some real profit from it.

Everybody is heading toward touch screen setups but that's not old true jukebox flare.
My two cents worth!
Kevin

Well, I hate replies like this, but here goes.

Excuse me?  Not wanting to make improvements?  How about reading the readme.txt then see if what you say holds water.  Even though SKJB does everything I want it to, I *even still* am adding requested features to the program.  Sure, development may have slowed down in recent months, but that's because the program is at a point where it's hardly unusable, and what's been requested is largely 'bells & whistles'.  Just because out of the 3 things you asked me to do (in my own time with no cost to you), 1 is already in place, 1 I can't do and the other I have no desire at all for doing it, I get THIS sort of reply?  Why don't you come around to my house & break all my windows just for the hell of it too?

And get together with VMJ?  Not a chance.  They are 2 totally seperate programs.  What's this 'dependabilty' you are talking about?  And, I have no desire to make money off of the program.  I do this as a personal project that I feel like giving away.

Of course, there's the old addage : 'if you don't like it, don't use it'.  Simple as that.  Do NOT ---smurf--- about something you didn't pay for, nor put any work into yourself.

Oh, and the last part of your first line?  Yeah, let's give that a try.

That is all, now let's move on with constructive things.  I hate wasting my energy on crap like this, cause it's energy better spent elsewhere.

[digitaldj]

I just didn't like your attitude in returning the message reply, you may want to work on that.

Read the the message about where i mention dependablility. It was a complement! I was just hoping you had those items on the list for improvement!
Geeesh Sorry!

You are right though shouldn't have wasted my time or yours you could have been programming!

[SalmonKing]

Read the the message about where i mention dependablility. It was a complement!

You are right though shouldn't have wasted my time or yours you could have been programming!

Well, was it hard for me to take something you said NOT as a compliment?  lol.....

From my point of view, I read it as 'you depend on another program/etc for yours to run'. 

However, for the 'waste of time', I hope you are not being nasty!  You've had your say, I've had mine, let's move on.  If there's something constructive you want to suggest, I'm all ears.   

[Barry Barcrest]

Hmm ok, i didn't notice the difference as i use ACTIVE movie for my jukebox, but i just thought it was included. If i had a spare $100 i think i would use it to pay some of my bills so i guess you are stuck with lite. However you should have used that response in reply to the original question rather than saying you woul not include an EQ full stop

Enjoy
 

I don't mean to be bitchy about it, but it IS my program, and I have put alot of work into it.

[SalmonKing]

Whoa! Sorry dude, i think this was all percieved wrong. Man i am not having a dig or anything i was just wondering if you needed any help really. Don't know why your thred has gone a bit pear, hope it wasn't my fault...

Did you see where i mentioned your ID3 tag reading issue? It wouldn't read some of the tags that i know are correct as i can read them in my program and also ThePCJukebox and Tag & Rename. I can send you one of the files if it helps you bug fix this.

Also on a related note, did you blt the screen to get the covers moving like they do. I really like the smooth action they have and was looking at adding something simular to my software.

Anyway, take it easy buddy and good look with your app.

Nope, not your fault at all!  I don't really understand why it's gone the way it has either.....who knew giving software away for free would bring such bad attitudes from some people....  *tsk* I dunno....

As for the tagging, I'm not really sure why it would be going wrong, so perhaps sending one would be a good idea.  The ID3 support I put in was really a 'proof of concept', so I wasn't expecting it to be perfect.  You should be able to e-mail one to me...check the readme.txt for the addy.

As for the album art, it really is very simple.  I used a component I bought to display jpg's (which I use in a commercial application!  ), and just move them across the screen.  That's all there is to it!  It took alot of playing, but the standard picture/image controls available are really not good at that sort of thing, so an optimized control was just the ticket.

Ahhhh....constructive conversation....there's nothing like it!   

[Barry Barcrest]

Damn, i was hoping you would say that you use blt in a picture control...  Ok i'll have a play and see what i can do myself. As for the MP3's i will send you one over tonight when i get home. Cheers for the reply.

[corrupt37]

SK your program rocks i love it.
I would like to also add a suggestion. I love the option to select Genre. But i would like to see if there was a way i can also select artist. My files are setup as follows /Genres/artist/album
Well i like the option to select genres but i would also love an option to select artist. This would help with my search since im not using a keypad. Thank you so much.
Or you add a keypad for the search option that uses the left and right arrows to move around.
Well if you add these or not your software rocks. And please if you ever decide to stop improving it. Please think of going open source.
SK you rock!!!!

[Freeplay]

OK.. I must have something not clicked... because when I'm in screensaver, the movement or pressing of mouse keys will not do anything... the cursor moves of course... but in order to get back in the program I need to press a key on the keyboard.
So please tell me what I have setup wrong.

Ok I upgraded to 2.6.2

[SalmonKing]

Ok I upgraded to 2.6.2  the latest from your web site, however I still have the screensaver mouse problem.
Sorry to keep harping on about it. But as you can understand... I can't sleep, my hair is falling out, my kids hate me, I'm a sad specimen of a man.... well maybe I'm getting a bit carried away......... but at least my SK Jukebox kicks ass

Alright, I guess it's about time for an update anyway.  I'll see if I can fix the problem Barcrest is having with the ID3 tagging, then put an update online.  I'll also see if I can finish off a couple of other things I've been working on (I've ripped out the old on-screen keypad & replaced it with a new version....no more numbers, they're useless on a touch screen, IMO, considering you can touch an album & bring it up, then touch a song to add it to the queue).

[SalmonKing]

Damn, i was hoping you would say that you use blt in a picture control...  Ok i'll have a play and see what i can do myself. As for the MP3's i will send you one over tonight when i get home. Cheers for the reply.

Even blt'ing it wouldn't help the animation across the screen....it's still a picture control, after all, and the method you use to get the image into the control wouldn't change how the control acts as it's 'container' is being moved.  Just a hint then.....the animation speed is simply the number of milliseconds I wait until continuing to move it across the screen...not perfect, and I'm sure there's better ways out there, but it works 

[Barry Barcrest]

Ah.. ok, i am a bit drunk now but i do have an animaion of a walking man using blt'ing in a picture control and it's well smooth i am looking at using that. The secret is to encapsule stuff in a picture control. This is probably making no sense but what i mean is have other stuff within a picture control using it like you would a frame. Errrrm i will pm you over the weekend with what i mean, it may help you out on something.

Thanks for the reply
BB

[SalmonKing]

Ah.. ok, i am a bit drunk now but i do have an animaion of a walking man using blt'ing in a picture control and it's well smooth i am looking at using that. The secret is to encapsule stuff in a picture control. This is probably making no sense but what i mean is have other stuff within a picture control using it like you would a frame. Errrrm i will pm you over the weekend with what i mean, it may help you out on something.

Thanks for the reply
BB

OK, load a 500*500 jpg in the picture control then start moving the picture control around the screen   

Basically what I have is a couple of picture boxes side by side, with lines, labels, lists & image controls inside.  Then when animating, I just move the container by a constant interval across the screen (waiting a user controlled time between each step).  It's the redrawing of the image INSIDE the container as it's being moved that's the killer, and that's why I am using the image control I'm using.  The redraw speeds leave the basic versions in the dust.

The 'secret' for my point of view is that there are 4 of these on the screen, but only 2 visible at any one time.  Setting the Zorder so they appear in their correct positions is important, then load the correct albums into the containers, then make them appear, then do the animation.  It's all pretty complicated, but it was the best way I could find to do it, and took a long time to get it right.

[Freeplay]

Alright, I guess it's about time for an update anyway.

You little beauty...

Since you are doing updates.... is there anyway of having an option to lose the numbers ( before each track)
without the need for a keyboard, they are redundant.

[SalmonKing]

You little beauty...

Since you are doing updates.... is there anyway of having an option to lose the numbers ( before each track)
without the need for a keyboard, they are redundant.

Sorry, not sure what you mean by this....   

[Freeplay]

ok... well what I mean is in each cd you have the tracks with trck numbers:

00 All Tracks
01 Song 1 Name
02  Song 2 Name

I would like the option of:

All Tracks
Song 1 Name
Song 2 Name

The numbers are of no use if you are using touch screen or mouse support.
And I don't care if the songs rearrange themselves because numbers are missing.

Just a thought

[big_garryb]

Anyway, I did make a couple of changes to the ID3 code that should fix the run time error 5 issue.  Expect an update in the next couple of days!

Getting the runtime error 5 as quoted..... Removed the albums that were causing the problem (9 of them). Then the program ran sweet..... I decided i needed some covers as i didnt have many - so i used Album Cover Art Downloader louhi.kempele.fi/~skyostil/projects/albumart/

I got loads of covers..... next time i ran SKjuke - runtime 5 error.... so i started removing the offending albums....  i have now removed 23 albums and still getting the same error - can anyone shed any light or a solution to my problem... i really like the program and want to use it...

thanks!
garryb

[big_garryb]

OK SORRY GUYS................ I just spent the last 40 minutes reading the posts for a solution............ then posted my above message........... then had another look and someone mentioned about switiching off ID3 tag  - tried it and it worked........

so sorry and ignore the post above.
thanks
garry

[SalmonKing]

ok... well what I mean is in each cd you have the tracks with trck numbers:

00 All Tracks
01 Song 1 Name
02  Song 2 Name

I would like the option of:

All Tracks
Song 1 Name
Song 2 Name

The numbers are of no use if you are using touch screen or mouse support.
And I don't care if the songs rearrange themselves because numbers are missing.

Just a thought

OK, I'm with you now 

Not a problem.....I hope..... hehe   

I'll see if I can make that change later today before putting the update online.

[SalmonKing]

OK SORRY GUYS................ I just spent the last 40 minutes reading the posts for a solution............ then posted my above message........... then had another look and someone mentioned about switiching off ID3 tag  - tried it and it worked........

so sorry and ignore the post above.
thanks
garry

No problems at all, just try again later in the weekend (once the latest version is online) and see if that fixes the issue.

[SalmonKing]

Version 2.7.0 Released!

What my next move is to go through this thread & PM's & Hotmail account to make sure I haven't missed anything.  Once that list has been collated, I will priotitise that work, just to give me an idea of what I have to work on.

If you have any issues related to the changes, please let me know.  If ID3 support is still not working right, if the new screen saver is causing issues, etc....just reply here or get me on my e-mail address.

Have fun!   

[papaschtroumpf]

Woohoo, thanks!

[papaschtroumpf]

The help feature I requested wortks great when the help picture is present, many many thanks!
If the picture is missing however, it loks like the "help" title is shown behind the album art, which doesn't look right.
I don't care since I have a picture that I want to use, but just an FYI.

[SalmonKing]

The help feature I requested wortks great when the help picture is present, many many thanks!
If the picture is missing however, it loks like the "help" title is shown behind the album art, which doesn't look right.
I don't care since I have a picture that I want to use, but just an FYI.

Thanks, fixed!  Help screen will only be shown if help.jpg exists.  I meant to put in a default picture, but forgot   

[bauhaus]

The help feature I requested wortks great when the help picture is present, many many thanks!
If the picture is missing however, it loks like the "help" title is shown behind the album art, which doesn't look right.
I don't care since I have a picture that I want to use, but just an FYI.

Thanks, fixed!

[SalmonKing]

Hi Sk
Some focus problem with this function don't click with your mouse ...or ctrl+alt+suppr

Not sure what you mean about this....it's shown as a 'modal' or dialog form, which doesn't allow you to go back to the main screen until it's closed.  Can you explain the issue in a little more detail?

[JLR2000]

Thanks SK for another great Update!

Regarding the SS - I noticed that if you set the time for the SS to engage that is the time interval in between scrolls.  The other time slider below doesn't really affect the time interval between scrolls.  Not a big deal, but I thought I'd let you know.

Thanks so much for adding this Feature!!  One question/request is on the Options dialog when you input the SS time interval is it possible to have a number input box with the slider?  On the slider I can only get it to hit 1, 14, 28, etc.... I thought if there was an input box where the number moved I could manually type in "10" or "25".  Just a thought, totally not necessary but if it's easy to do and you think it's worthwile....

Thanks again for your efforts!

[SalmonKing]

Thanks SK for another great Update!

Regarding the SS - I noticed that if you set the time for the SS to engage that is the time interval in between scrolls.  The other time slider below doesn't really affect the time interval between scrolls.  Not a big deal, but I thought I'd let you know.

Thanks so much for adding this Feature!!  One question/request is on the Options dialog when you input the SS time interval is it possible to have a number input box with the slider?  On the slider I can only get it to hit 1, 14, 28, etc.... I thought if there was an input box where the number moved I could manually type in "10" or "25".  Just a thought, totally not necessary but if it's easy to do and you think it's worthwile....

Thanks again for your efforts!

The top slider is supposed to be the time before it starts scrolling, the bottom slider is to then scroll it every x seconds after that.  So, not sure what's going on there.....I set the top slider to 30, the bottom slider to 6, and after 30 seconds it scrolled.....6 seconds after that, it scrolled, 6 seconds after....etc

As for getting the slider right, just click on the slider & get it close to where you want it.  You can then use the left & right arrows to tweak it.   

[SalmonKing]

Hi Sk
Some focus problem with this function don't click with your mouse ...or ctrl+alt+suppr

Actually, I think I know what you mean by this now....if the albums are auto scrolling, and you click away from the program to another application (without moving your mouse over the main screen), it will then do the next scroll after bringing the program back to the front.

If that's what you mean, I just fixed that. 

[JLR2000]

Thanks SK for another great Update!

Regarding the SS - I noticed that if you set the time for the SS to engage that is the time interval in between scrolls.  The other time slider below doesn't really affect the time interval between scrolls.  Not a big deal, but I thought I'd let you know.

Thanks so much for adding this Feature!!  One question/request is on the Options dialog when you input the SS time interval is it possible to have a number input box with the slider?  On the slider I can only get it to hit 1, 14, 28, etc.... I thought if there was an input box where the number moved I could manually type in "10" or "25".  Just a thought, totally not necessary but if it's easy to do and you think it's worthwile....

Thanks again for your efforts!

The top slider is supposed to be the time before it starts scrolling, the bottom slider is to then scroll it every x seconds after that.  So, not sure what's going on there.....I set the top slider to 30, the bottom slider to 6, and after 30 seconds it scrolled.....6 seconds after that, it scrolled, 6 seconds after....etc

As for getting the slider right, just click on the slider & get it close to where you want it.  You can then use the left & right arrows to tweak it.   

Hmmm, I just tried again and I get the same results as earlier reported.  The top slider controls the time before it starts scrolling AND the amount of seconds between scrolls.  The bottom does nothing.  Here's the test I did:
Top slider: I clicked and attempted to move with left & right arrows, but it did not move.  I set to 28 seconds using mouse pointer.
Bottom Slider:  I clicked and attempted to move with left & right arrows. The slider DID move here and I set to 6 seconds.  Clicked Save.
SK Jukebox started and after 28 seconds the scroll began, 28 seconds later it scrolled again, 28 seconds later again.....
I'm running XP SP2 with latest updates.  I did just reload the update files from the zip I downloaded last night. If it's just me I will save my .ini file, remove/uninstall all and do a fresh install and try it again.  Let me know if it's just me.

Thanks again!

[PileDriver]

Same here. The bottom bar dosen't seem to do anything.
I set the top to 30sec and the bottom to 5.It starts after 30sec and then every 30sec after it scrolls.
Pile

[SalmonKing]

Hmmm, I just tried again and I get the same results as earlier reported.  The top slider controls the time before it starts scrolling AND the amount of seconds between scrolls.  The bottom does nothing.  Here's the test I did:
Top slider: I clicked and attempted to move with left & right arrows, but it did not move.  I set to 28 seconds using mouse pointer.
Bottom Slider:  I clicked and attempted to move with left & right arrows. The slider DID move here and I set to 6 seconds.  Clicked Save.
SK Jukebox started and after 28 seconds the scroll began, 28 seconds later it scrolled again, 28 seconds later again.....
I'm running XP SP2 with latest updates.  I did just reload the update files from the zip I downloaded last night. If it's just me I will save my .ini file, remove/uninstall all and do a fresh install and try it again.  Let me know if it's just me.

Thanks again!

How very odd.....still can't replicate it here.  Could either one of you e-mail me your SKJukebox.ini so I can test with the exact settings. 

[JLR2000]

Hmmm, I just tried again and I get the same results as earlier reported.  The top slider controls the time before it starts scrolling AND the amount of seconds between scrolls.  The bottom does nothing.  Here's the test I did:
Top slider: I clicked and attempted to move with left & right arrows, but it did not move.  I set to 28 seconds using mouse pointer.
Bottom Slider:  I clicked and attempted to move with left & right arrows. The slider DID move here and I set to 6 seconds.  Clicked Save.
SK Jukebox started and after 28 seconds the scroll began, 28 seconds later it scrolled again, 28 seconds later again.....
I'm running XP SP2 with latest updates.  I did just reload the update files from the zip I downloaded last night. If it's just me I will save my .ini file, remove/uninstall all and do a fresh install and try it again.  Let me know if it's just me.

Thanks again!

How very odd.....still can't replicate it here.  Could either one of you e-mail me your SKJukebox.ini so I can test with the exact settings. 

Sure, I'll PM you with the text, or send me a PM with where to email it to.

Thanks!

[SalmonKing]

Thanks, got the ini.  hmmmm....strange, I replicated it once, but after I hit F5 (to refresh the program) it seemed to work alright.  Must be something not initializing properly on the first try or something.....

Will keep looking!!

Edit - OK, think I've found the issue!  It's the same problem I had with the other type of screen saver : I am getting a 'mouse moved' event for no apparent reason.  All I need to do is store the mouse cursor position when the screen saver starts, then when I get a 'mouse moved' event, I check if it has moved more than 5 pixels.....solved....I hope   

[JLR2000]

Ok SK -

As for the Slider controls you can close that one with a code of "ID10T"...my bad.

The both sliders work as you said, I have some resolution challenges and didn't see the numbers at the end of the sliders.

...just didn't want you to waste time on the other "non" issue.

Thanks.

Great to hear you believe you found it....looking forward to testing and/or the new release.....

[SalmonKing]

Ok SK -

As for the Slider controls you can close that one with a code of "ID10T"...my bad.

The both sliders work as you said, I have some resolution challenges and didn't see the numbers at the end of the sliders.

...just didn't want you to waste time on the other "non" issue.

Thanks.

Great to hear you believe you found it....looking forward to testing and/or the new release.....

Thanks for letting me know!  Sounds like I may have to do a couple tweaks re resolution....what were you running it at?

Anyway, if you want to try out the latest update, 2.7.1 is now online!