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Tron joysticks (new repros) available...
« on: June 13, 2002, 07:10:52 pm »
...that is if enuff orders are made.  cut and paste form RGVAC

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In an exclusive agreement with Gene Morris, Arcade Renovations could be
carrying
Blue Tron Joystick handles. These handles will be an exact replicas of the
originals and
will include the brass inserts and the decal inserts (these will actually be
silk screen plexi
pieces). In addition, we are looking to get the red Satan's Hollow and Gorf
handles as well.
If we decide to get those done, the brass inserts and the decal inserts will
also be included.

Last week, I cancelled the midway coindoor production as only a handful of
people showed
interest. This project is similar - I need your pre-orders with a $5.00
deposit for each handle
before then end of next week before I actually get the project started. A
minimum of 50 total
pre-orders will be required. If the number is reached by next Friday,
production will start immediately.
If not, all moneys will be refunded and the project will be thrown out.

According to Gene, the handles will be ready within 30 to 45 days from the
start of production.

If this is something that you want to see, you will need to send a check or
money order to us or you may
also use paypal (sales@arcaderenovations.com) for $5.00- Price for each
handle will vary from $60 to $75 depending
on the number of pre-orders - If the response is really good, they will be
$60 but plan on spending $75 tops.
There will be substantial volume discounts starting at 2 joysticks. If you
have any questions, please email me at
pbourdon@portone.com - Thanks,

Philippe
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Re: Tron joysticks (new repros) available...
« Reply #1 on: June 14, 2002, 03:17:52 am »
This is great news!  The price would actually be much cheaper than the black 'tron' joystick available on the Happ website.  Not to mention the added 10,000 cool points for having the actual TRON logo on it.  ;D  Rock!

Please consider adding yourself to the list if you plan to build a cabinet in the future (like myself) or have one already!

I will email pronto.  I just wish I had a job right now,  I'd buy 3.  (Need to keep some as backups, just in case you know!)
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Re: Tron joysticks (new repros) available...
« Reply #2 on: June 14, 2002, 09:11:34 am »
I just ordered 2 Tron sticks. It looks like today is the last day to order and I don't think he is even close to 50. I think this will be a great addition to my cab when I finish it.

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Re: Tron joysticks (new repros) available...
« Reply #3 on: June 14, 2002, 01:41:25 pm »
Are there any pictures of Tron joystick handles on the Web?

Also it is not clear to me whether this guy is selling just the handle or the entire joystick. If it is the former then what joystick would you attach the handle to?
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Re: Tron joysticks (new repros) available...
« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2002, 06:13:58 pm »
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Are there any pictures of Tron joystick handles on the Web?


Check the Tron flyer at http://www.arcadeflyers.com/index.php?page=flyerdb&subpage=flyer&id=1244&image=1

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Also it is not clear to me whether this guy is selling just the handle or the entire joystick. If it is the former then what joystick would you attach the handle to?


The words "Tron Joystick Handles" are mentioned several times.  If they are exact repros, they will be made to fit the original hardware.  However, you  can easily hack almost any trigger-stick handle to fit standard Happs joysticks.  Look here: http://www.oscarcontrols.com/projects/triggerstick.shtml  BTW, aluminum shafts from hobby stores work better (and are cheaper) than nutdriver shafts...

I would snap up two of these if I wasn't flat broke!  :'(
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Re: Tron joysticks (new repros) available...
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2002, 07:48:32 pm »
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BTW, aluminum shafts from hobby stores work better (and are cheaper) than nutdriver shafts...




Curious...  Somehow I don't agree that aluminum is better for a joystick shaft than steel.  Granted aluminum is easier to work with if you don't have the proper tools, but it is definitely not better than steel, like that found on a nutdriver shaft.   :P

At any rate, I'm jumping on this Tron joystick thing.  It would be shame for them not to come to light for lack of people willing to commit a few dollars to the project.  Besides, mine is cracked and I'm afraid to let friends play on my Tron, in case they get wild and break it.  Heh, I should probably order two, just in case.   ;D
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Re: Tron joysticks (new repros) available...
« Reply #6 on: June 15, 2002, 06:46:55 pm »
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Re: Tron joysticks (new repros) available...
« Reply #7 on: June 15, 2002, 07:05:14 pm »
The real reason I used a nut driver..... I did the hack one afternoon and I didn't feel like leaving the house to find something more suitable.  :)

Actually, aluminum should be okay.  But for myself, I wouldn't use anything less than a 2011 alloy, which is about 3x higher in yield strength than the off-the-shelf stuff you see in stores (typically 1100 alloy).  Funny thing is, they are about exactly the same in price.  Most good hardware supplies carry the 2011, but I highly doubt you would find it in a Home Depot or any place like that.

That said, I would even consider using a nutdriver again.  It worked okay for me.   ;D
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Re: Tron joysticks (new repros) available...
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2002, 12:50:27 am »
Well, the real reason I used aluminum tubing was because I couldn't find any nutdrivers that were the right size or length, so I guess that makes it even!  ;)  Like I said, the average consumer stick is all plastic except for the screws, and a lot of them are plenty durable.  Aluminum should be one step better.  Haven't bent them in half yet, so I'm okay with aluminum.  Some other people might be too rough, but I don't hang out with that sort.  If anyone starts beating on my machine, high score will be the LEAST of their worries!  >:(  >:(  >:(
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« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2002, 07:13:04 am »
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Like I said, the average consumer stick is all plastic except for the screws, and a lot of them are plenty durable.


I'm not sure how valid your point is here.  You've made a big jump between a PC flight stick and an arcade trigger stick.

How so?  PC sticks are typically placed on a desktop or in your lap and are used in a sitting position where you really only use your wrist to control it.  It is probably impossible to ever damage it using it in this manner, especially since the base is free to float.

Now take that same flight stick and bolt it to a 300lb. cabinet (i.e., not movable), stand in front of it, and use your shoulder & elbow to control it.  HUGE difference.  What I'm getting at here is that if a plastic joystick shaft is that strong, why weren't they (or aluminum, for that matter) used on arcade machines?  Because they wouldn't last.  When I worked in plant production ergonomics, these are exactly the types of things we considered when spec'ing or designing new equipment and tools.

Don't get me wrong, I'm NOT saying that using a standard flight stick with a plastic shaft wouldn't work on a home arcade machine.  I'm only saying that a direct design comparison between a PC flight stick and an arcade trigger stick is faulty.  I agree with you that aluminum tube is a step up from plastic, but it surely isn't as good as using steel tubing, which is also readily available in many sizes and lengths.  Nutdrivers are only a single source, you can also purchase it raw.  Try some local fab shops if you can't find it anywhere else.

1UP, you hacked a trigger stick, you are happy with it, and that's great.  Examples like this inspire others.  That's what this is all about... the sharing of ideas & tips to Build Your Own Arcade Controls!
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Re: Tron joysticks (new repros) available...
« Reply #10 on: June 17, 2002, 11:08:09 am »
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Well, the real reason I used aluminum tubing was because I couldn't find any nutdrivers that were the right size or length, so I guess that makes it even!
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« Reply #11 on: June 17, 2002, 11:34:58 am »
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« Reply #12 on: June 17, 2002, 11:41:05 pm »
Yess!  Starting a new job tomorrow, so I just ordered two of these puppies!  C'mon, just a few more people need to get on this and we'll all be rolling in aqua blue, translucent Tron goodness!!!

Who I'm working for is another story.  Somehow or other I find out I'm gettin paid by Burt Ward (Robin on the old '60s Batman show...)

:o WHAT??

I love this business.  ;)
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« Reply #13 on: June 18, 2002, 06:31:09 am »
Nobody ever said that what you did wouldn't work or that you are trying to force anyone to do what you did.  All I did was try to clarify a few minor inaccuracies in your posts to avoid any confusion to other readers.  I've noticed that you paint your picture with a broad brush, if you take my meaning, with statements such as "aluminum is better than steel" or your comparison between a PC flight stick and an arcade trigger stick.

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...the aluminum tubing was cheap enough, if it bends or breaks, I can afford to replace it with something stronger.  They don't have the right size of steel tubing at Home Depot, so I went with this.  Aluminum is actually used in place of steel in aeronoutics and industrial equipment when appropriate.  It's actually quite strong when it's thick enough.



Surely you aren't suggesting that some aluminum tube you found in a hobby store is the same as the aeronautical alloys?  The only similarity between those two materials is that they spell "aluminum" the same.  Seriously.  The physical and mechanical properties of the two are completely different, meaning their tensile and yield strength, melting point, hardness, elongation, etc.  Also, unless you are talking about exactly the same cross section, material thickness is not a good indicator of strength, either. Section modulus is what really determines an object's strength (with regard to bending, which is the most often referenced indicator of an object
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« Reply #14 on: June 18, 2002, 06:57:16 am »
If i remember correctly, Burt Ward runs a merchandising business.

Congrats on the new job!!
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« Reply #15 on: June 18, 2002, 05:18:55 pm »
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Nobody ever said that what you did wouldn't work or that you are trying to force anyone to do what you did.
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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2002, 05:21:48 pm »
PS, if I tend to paint with a broad brush, it's just cause I like to cut to the chase!  And I often know just enough about stuff to get me into trouble...  :-/  Just tryin to justify my means!
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Re: Tron joysticks (new repros) available...
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2002, 10:41:28 am »
CG Animation! Holy Phong Shading BatMan!

I know I read that Burt had gone into merchandising. I guess he must be into more stuff now.  Good Luck with that!

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