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Author Topic: Installed my Aimtrak into act labs gun. [Video Added]  (Read 8520 times)

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Re: Installed my Aimtrak into act labs gun. [Video Added]
« Reply #40 on: October 09, 2009, 03:21:43 pm »
Also, did you guys get reloading working in Area 51? I have tried several combinations of settings, but can't get it working. Offscreen reload does work for me in CarnEvil, for example.

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Re: Installed my Aimtrak into act labs gun. [Video Added]
« Reply #41 on: October 09, 2009, 03:30:39 pm »
It worked when I set Trigger to left mouse for both on and off-screen shots. (And, of course, set lightgun=lightgun in MAME.INI and turned offscreen reload = 1)

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Re: Installed my Aimtrak into act labs gun. [Video Added]
« Reply #42 on: October 09, 2009, 03:39:07 pm »
I'm still using lightgun = mouse.  It doesnt seem to matter I guess.  Makes sense to me that its mouse though as that whats the OS sees it as.

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Re: Installed my Aimtrak into act labs gun. [Video Added]
« Reply #43 on: October 09, 2009, 04:02:37 pm »
So from what Ginsu said, it seems that Area 51 requires the off-screen shot to register the same button as the normal trigger. By default the AimTrak sends an alternate button when shooting off-screen. And I am guessing that the other game I tried (CarnEvil) requires an alternate button to be sent as an off-screen reload.

Maybe Robin can chime in an shed some light on what the off-screen reload setting in the ini file does, and whether there is an easy way to change the Area 51 input.

This would be a good example of having a utility reprogram the AimTrak on the fly when launching the game, just like the UltraStiks.

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Re: Installed my Aimtrak into act labs gun. [Video Added]
« Reply #44 on: October 09, 2009, 04:30:20 pm »
This would be a good example of having a utility reprogram the AimTrak on the fly when launching the game, just like the UltraStiks.

Andy plans on this for the future.

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Re: Installed my Aimtrak into act labs gun. [Video Added]
« Reply #45 on: October 09, 2009, 07:46:50 pm »
urebelscum (or many other people) would know better, but the difference between lightgun=mouse and lightgun=lightgun is subtle.  If I understand correctly, MAME will only track the position of the gun if it's set to mouse as it expects to get constant updates on location.  If the gun is set to lightgun, it will only update the position when you press the trigger.

FWIW, I have my GunCon2's set to lightgun=lightgun and offscreen reload is on.  Area 51 works fine.  Carnevil is too much for my cab's PC  :'(, so I can't help you with that one.

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Re: Installed my Aimtrak into act labs gun. [Video Added]
« Reply #46 on: October 09, 2009, 09:26:36 pm »
FWIW, I have my GunCon2's set to lightgun=lightgun and offscreen reload is on.  Area 51 works fine.  Carnevil is too much for my cab's PC  :'(, so I can't help you with that one.

What do you have the AimTrak buttons set to for Area 51, for on and off-screen settings? Are they both to the same button?

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Re: Installed my Aimtrak into act labs gun. [Video Added]
« Reply #47 on: October 09, 2009, 09:41:26 pm »
urebelscum (or many other people) would know better, but the difference between lightgun=mouse and lightgun=lightgun is subtle.  If I understand correctly, MAME will only track the position of the gun if it's set to mouse as it expects to get constant updates on location.  If the gun is set to lightgun, it will only update the position when you press the trigger.


I don't know the story on that, but I do know the crosshair will go where you point it, so that's all I care about.

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Re: Installed my Aimtrak into act labs gun. [Video Added]
« Reply #48 on: October 10, 2009, 06:10:53 am »
To clarify:

How ActLabs gun works
The trigger is set to left mouse button when shooting on screen.
The trigger is set to rigth mouse button when shooting off screen.

What is -offscreen_reload option in MAME for?
Some many years ago, the ActLabs was the unique PC lightgun.
99% of lightgun Arcade games needs shoot to the frame to reload. One of the best place is the left-lower corner. That is (0,Ymax) position.

So this option in MAME traslates a right gun button pressed to a trigger pressed in the (0,Ymax) position.

How it works the AimTrak?
With the Aimtrak (as well as LCDTopGun) you have two possibilities to reload in MAME:

OPTION 1:
a) Configure trigger shot on screen and off screen to Left Mouse.
b) Configure MAME device lightgun like lightgun. If you don't have lightgun enabled this option will enabled it for that games using lightguns.
c) If I'm not wrong, when you shoot off screen with the Aimtrak, the cursor will set to (0,Ymax) and the trigger will be pressed.

OPTION 2 (ActLabs Compatibility mode (useful for Troubleshooting games):
a) Configure trigger shot on screen to left mouse button and the shoot off screen to right mouse button (just like ActLabs do).
b) Enable in mame the shootscreen_reload option and setup lightgun device to lightgun.
c) Each time you shoot offscreen, The AimTrak will press the right mouse/gun button. Mame will detect this and (offscreen_reload option is enabled) it traslates this rigth button pressed to a left button pressed in the (0,Ymax) position.
  
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Re: Installed my Aimtrak into act labs gun. Pics inside. Working now!!!
« Reply #49 on: October 10, 2009, 09:44:54 am »
I meant are you relying on the crosshairs or are you aiming with the gun itself?

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Re: Installed my Aimtrak into act labs gun. [Video Added]
« Reply #50 on: October 10, 2009, 12:27:13 pm »
I don't have an AimTrak....I have GunCon2's.  I don't press a button for off screen reload.  I hit the trigger off screen and it reloads.

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Re: Installed my Aimtrak into act labs gun. [Video Added]
« Reply #51 on: October 10, 2009, 01:37:28 pm »
I meant are you relying on the crosshairs or are you aiming with the gun itself?

I do not aim with my hand;
He who aims with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
I aim with my eye.

I do not shoot with my hand;
He who shoots with his hand has forgotten the face of his father.
I shoot with my mind.

I do not kill with my gun;
He who kills with his gun has forgotten the face of his father.
I kill with my heart.




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