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Author Topic: Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?  (Read 2059 times)

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Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?
« on: August 10, 2009, 03:51:43 pm »
A lady offered me a asteroids in good condition not great but good with a dead monitor for $100 and I have passed for now but would it be worth it?

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Re: Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2009, 03:54:49 pm »
A lady offered me a asteroids in good condition not great but good with a dead monitor for $100 and I have passed for now but would it be worth it?



Does it play blind?

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Re: Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2009, 04:02:38 pm »
A lady offered me a asteroids in good condition not great but good with a dead monitor for $100 and I have passed for now but would it be worth it?



Does it play blind?


From what she said it does I haven't seen anything but some pics.
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Re: Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?
« Reply #3 on: August 10, 2009, 04:05:55 pm »
For $100 I would say its worth checking out in person at least.   :cheers:

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Re: Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?
« Reply #4 on: August 10, 2009, 04:48:08 pm »
Absolutely it is worth it.   :cheers:
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« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2009, 06:53:43 pm »
Here are the pics



« Last Edit: August 10, 2009, 09:19:39 pm by Dr Zero »
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Re: Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2009, 08:48:07 pm »
theres a 100% working asteroids cab here for 900$, so yeah. id say worth it.

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Re: Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2009, 10:55:20 pm »
I'd snatch that up in a heartbeat, especially now after seeing it.
That'll clean up nicely and the monitors on those are not very hard to fix.
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Re: Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2009, 11:16:43 pm »
Definitely worth buying.

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Re: Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?
« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2009, 06:28:24 pm »
Definitely worth buying.

This brings up a question in my mind, and keep in mind that i have no experience with Vector monitors at all.

if the tubes good it can be repaired. If the tubes bad, good luck finding a vector tube.

IS this true, or is it junk?

is their a physical difference between a vector tube and a raster tube? thank you.

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Re: Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2009, 06:45:01 pm »
It's worth it.  I'd say it'd still be worth it at double the price. 

The cab is the most valuable part.  It's easily worth $100 by itself. The monitor and board can be replaced if necessary.

You will have all the help you could ever need from the guys here on BYOAC.  Old monitors were very easy to work on and if you have a little skill with a soldering iron I'm sure you could get it back up and running in no time.

If all else fails Asteroids works 100% in MAME.  You could put a 19" raster monitor in there and a PC to get the game up and playing.  It's not the best restore option, but it would be the easiest route.  If you chose to do this then I would recommend decasing a a 19" PC CRT, as these can do very high resolutions that will make vector games look more authentic.  I figure you could go this route and have a working cab for less than $200 including the price of the cab.

There are a few physical differences between a raster tube and vector tube, but I think they can be swapped.  In the case of Asteroids it used a black and white monitor so I figure you would need a tube from a black and white raster monitor.  When you get the cab look inside and see if you can find the tube model and then ask here on the forum what monitors used that tube model.  If you're lucky it will be a type that was used in televisions and your search for a new tube will be much easier as you could swap one out of an old tv.

Good luck with this.
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Re: Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?
« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2009, 06:53:52 pm »
Yall are killing me LOL

I have got to clear some room out since this would have to go on the back burner till my others projects are done will keep you all posted.

Someone be sure to send me a get well card when the wife comes home to another  :cheers:

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Re: Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?
« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2009, 07:03:11 pm »
It's worth it.  I'd say it'd still be worth it at double the price. 

The cab is the most valuable part.  It's easily worth $100 by itself. The monitor and board can be replaced if necessary.

You will have all the help you could ever need from the guys here on BYOAC.  Old monitors were very easy to work on and if you have a little skill with a soldering iron I'm sure you could get it back up and running in no time.

If all else fails Asteroids works 100% in MAME.  You could put a 19" raster monitor in there and a PC to get the game up and playing.  It's not the best restore option, but it would be the easiest route.  If you chose to do this then I would recommend decasing a a 19" PC CRT, as these can do very high resolutions that will make vector games look more authentic.  I figure you could go this route and have a working cab for less than $200 including the price of the cab.

There are a few physical differences between a raster tube and vector tube, but I think they can be swapped.  In the case of Asteroids it used a black and white monitor so I figure you would need a tube from a black and white raster monitor.  When you get the cab look inside and see if you can find the tube model and then ask here on the forum what monitors used that tube model.  If you're lucky it will be a type that was used in televisions and your search for a new tube will be much easier as you could swap one out of an old tv.

Good luck with this.

You know i do have something to add to this. Somebody put together an entire cross reference list for picture tubes a while back.

I failed to make a note of the website though. Id like to find it again though cause whats at fault here is that they did not put in their list what television models each tube was used in.

so basically i would have to open each tube tv (and their are a lot) ive saved from the dump to find out.

anyway ive got a printed list of the tube cross reference so i know i not making this up.

im sure it would be useful to someone.


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Re: Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?
« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2009, 07:44:04 pm »
If all else fails Asteroids works 100% in MAME.  You could put a 19" raster monitor in there and a PC to get the game up and playing.  It's not the best restore option, but it would be the easiest route.

That's a terrible idea....MAME, that is. AAE would be better if you HAVE to use a CRT.

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Re: Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2009, 08:36:07 pm »
If all else fails Asteroids works 100% in MAME.  You could put a 19" raster monitor in there and a PC to get the game up and playing.  It's not the best restore option, but it would be the easiest route.

That's a terrible idea....MAME, that is. AAE would be better if you HAVE to use a CRT.

I was simply unaware of the existence of this program.  I also know there is VectorMAME.  Purists might scoff at it but I would consider it if I were unable to get a new Asteroids board. 

In any case, MAME is just a nickname these days for "an emulator".  Most MAME cabs actually have several different emulators installed. 

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Re: Asteroids with dead monitor worth $100?
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2009, 09:18:18 pm »

You know i do have something to add to this. Somebody put together an entire cross reference list for picture tubes a while back.

I failed to make a note of the website though. Id like to find it again though cause whats at fault here is that they did not put in their list what television models each tube was used in.

so basically i would have to open each tube tv (and their are a lot) ive saved from the dump to find out.

anyway ive got a printed list of the tube cross reference so i know i not making this up.

im sure it would be useful to someone.



I found this page http://www.gamearchive.com/Video_Games/Manufacturers/Atari/monitor.html but if you got a list also that would be cool if you could scan it in.

I will keep you all posted it will be a bit I got a full plate right now :cheers:
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