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« on: August 05, 2009, 10:26:59 am »
Please click the link to the Oklahoma forums what a horrible loss of machines but no one was hurt.

http://forum.okcoin-op.com/index.php?topic=3464.0;topicseen
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« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2009, 10:32:33 am »
Yeah, I considered posting about this.

Keep in mind this wasn't just a collection, this was a family's home.

Here is the collection before it was lost:
http://www.robohara.com/?p=1175



I'm planning to help them out in any way possible.
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« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2009, 10:42:30 am »
no insurance....wow.  That's alot more than a kick to the tenders - that's a wrecking ball shot!

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« Reply #3 on: August 05, 2009, 10:50:27 am »
I went at the end of February and it was an awesome arcade. Even more awesome was that these strangers invited me into their home just because of a shared love of classic gaming. My heart goes out to the family and I hope they can recover well enough from this.

As for the collection, I'll let the pictures speak for themselves (and they had several new ones not in those pics). I'm glad I had the chance to experience that arcade while it lasted, though I regret not playing much. We talked about them more than we played them.

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« Reply #4 on: August 05, 2009, 10:55:55 am »
no insurance....wow.  That's alot more than a kick to the tenders - that's a wrecking ball shot!

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« Reply #5 on: August 05, 2009, 10:57:59 am »
Maybe those of you who know more about it can speak up, but I don't know what the situation is trying to get home insurance on a converted warehouse. I'm not sure what all that entails or if it's difficult or not. When I visited, I couldn't believe it was someone's home.

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« Reply #6 on: August 05, 2009, 11:38:02 am »


  Looking at the pictures, this was a really amazing place.   What a loss.  As was mentioned though, at least nobody was injured, that really is the most important thing.

I am the great "threadkiller!!"....watch me go.

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« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2009, 11:44:36 am »
It was amazing. I had the chance to go back, but was holding off for the gameday scheduled for Sept or Oct.

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« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2009, 12:18:10 pm »

Oh crap.  Good thing nobody was hurt, including the firefighters.

Any word on what started the fire?  I'd hate to think it was a game.

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« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2009, 12:27:42 pm »
Definitely not the kind of post I wanted to kick my day off reading about. 

I hadn't had a chance to get down there down to visit, but I can say we have a pretty tight group, so the help is always there.
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« Reply #10 on: August 05, 2009, 12:30:03 pm »
How does someone have a family home of such value, plus spend money on valuable thinigs inside it, but not get fire insurance? :/

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« Reply #11 on: August 05, 2009, 12:34:10 pm »
Its real possible where they were living in a converted warehouse its impossible to get homeowners insurance.  Someone in that field may have to give there thoughts
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« Reply #12 on: August 05, 2009, 12:42:34 pm »

Oh crap.  Good thing nobody was hurt, including the firefighters.

Any word on what started the fire?  I'd hate to think it was a game.

They may have had some machines stored up there, so that was my first thought.

Its real possible where they were living in a converted warehouse its impossible to get homeowners insurance.  Someone in that field may have to give there thoughts

This is the same thing I was thinking. It was commercially zoned, so who knows?
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« Reply #13 on: August 05, 2009, 12:53:50 pm »

Was it rented?  How many renters buy insurance?  I never did when I was renting.

If it was owned, and had no insurance, it also must have had no mortgage.


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« Reply #14 on: August 05, 2009, 01:02:39 pm »
Was it rented?  How many renters buy insurance?  I never did when I was renting.

I've always had it when I've rented.  Many times it was a condition of the lease that you obtain it.

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« Reply #15 on: August 05, 2009, 01:04:58 pm »
Many times it was a condition of the lease that you obtain it.


Really?  I probably rented 10 different places and not once was that a condition nor did I ever have it.  Of course a few of those places were in a two family with the owner in the other unit...

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« Reply #16 on: August 05, 2009, 01:06:43 pm »
Many times it was a condition of the lease that you obtain it.


Really?  I probably rented 10 different places and not once was that a condition nor did I ever have it.  Of course a few of those places were in a two family with the owner in the other unit...

Probably differs from state to state I'd imagine.

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« Reply #17 on: August 05, 2009, 02:25:12 pm »

Was it rented?  How many renters buy insurance?  I never did when I was renting.

If it was owned, and had no insurance, it also must have had no mortgage.



Owned. (As in, "he owned it", not PWNED!)

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« Reply #18 on: August 05, 2009, 02:30:55 pm »

It may get worse, then, if the building is condemned and he is ordered to tear it down.  Normally insurance would cover that.  It's costly.

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« Reply #19 on: August 05, 2009, 02:38:19 pm »
wow i was just looking at that collection last week it was truely awesome.

it is a shame, especially with no insurrance :(

at least no one was hurt but it still sucks, do they know what caused it? with that many machines i wonder how they was wired? that would really suck if it it was a overloaded circuit.
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« Reply #20 on: August 05, 2009, 04:24:35 pm »
Did someone call for an insurance broker?

Standard residential markets wouldn't touch a risk like that. If you could convince a specialty risk markets to look at it, they'd certainly be charge a small fortune in return. I do know if someone came into my office with a risk like that to insure, I'd politely pass.

...and then ask if I could come over and play some Defender. That was a wicked arcade.

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« Reply #21 on: August 05, 2009, 04:57:39 pm »
...and then ask if I could come over and play some Defender. That was a wicked arcade.

That Defender was all original. Every serial number matched and it had never even had the monitor capped (possibly the CPO replaced, but that's it). It was an awesome freak of nature.

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« Reply #22 on: August 05, 2009, 05:25:04 pm »
Standard residential markets wouldn't touch a risk like that. If you could convince a specialty risk markets to look at it, they'd certainly be charge a small fortune in return. I do know if someone came into my office with a risk like that to insure, I'd politely pass.

And that's exactly what had been presented to them.
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« Reply #23 on: August 06, 2009, 12:25:52 am »
News interviewed them and talked about the arcade and the loss of everything
http://www.kswo.com/global/story.asp?s=10856121

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« Reply #25 on: August 06, 2009, 06:19:26 am »
What a loss.......Too sad for words.

Of course I have no way of knowing if they had any and if it could have prevented (part of) it happenin, but this shows why you should have smoke detectors and extinguishers.

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« Reply #26 on: August 06, 2009, 08:11:10 am »
this shows why you should have smoke detectors and extinguishers.

No one was home when the fire started, so what good do those serve at that point?

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« Reply #27 on: August 06, 2009, 09:48:06 am »
terrible news.
I remember seeing pics of the place and thought wow.
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« Reply #28 on: August 06, 2009, 10:11:44 am »
It is/was a great place and I hate to be so brutal as to say I told you so as it is a great collector's loss and a terrible personal loss, but to site a collection of such value without insurance is literally playing with fire. Regardless of whether insurance was approvable or not, if it wasn't insured I would have had doubts about even living there as it's gambling with both your money and your life.

If it is the case it was uninsurable I find that bizarre, particularly as a great portion of US homes are made from little more than wood and plaster board (sorry - 'drywall') and are sited in hot climates with the likelihood of hurricanes or earthquakes, and I bet they get insurance approved - even though they could burn to the ground easy or blow away in the wind!

At least this place was built using some kind of brick, like it should be. There's that other big arcade some guy built at his home (the name currently escapes me), and although made of wood, he took suitable precautions to alarm, fire-protect and insure it when it was built.

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« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2009, 10:17:44 am »
 :'(  Ouch.  My condolences.

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« Reply #30 on: August 06, 2009, 10:20:00 am »
Craig, one of the biggest hurdles was the fact that it was a commercial building and wasn't zoned for residential living. It was directly next to the train tracks and everything around it was industrial. Word around the campfire is that the city might be starting legal action against them for living there in the first place (more salt to the wounds).

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« Reply #31 on: August 06, 2009, 10:23:34 am »
Regardless of whether insurance was approvable or not, if it wasn't insured I would have had doubts about even living there as it's gambling with both your money and your life.


Erm, insurance isn't going to save your life in a fire.  It helps you rebuild.  It does nothing to get you out of the burning building.

They could have gotten a custom insurance policy on the collection itself but odds are it would have been an asset policy and been prohibitively expensive for them.  If Mariah Carey can get a billion dollars in coverage on her legs then there is insurance out there for anything.  Being able to afford such coverage is the problem.

Now, since they were living there, that could have been a problem for insurers, given that it is not legal to take up residence in a commercially zoned building.  That is a different issue, though, and an intentionally chosen risk.


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« Reply #32 on: August 06, 2009, 10:29:06 am »
this shows why you should have smoke detectors and extinguishers.

No one was home when the fire started, so what good do those serve at that point?
Well if you have smoke detectors installed connected to your alarm system, the fire brigade would have showed up a lot sooner. Fires never start big, they start small. In the first phase of a fire there is still a lot that can be done to prevent further extension of the fire.

But even more important, what IF there had been people there ?!?!?!! Would they have come out safely ? Would they have had an extinguisher around to try and stop the early fire ? Was there more than 1 route to escape the building ?

It's just things people rarely think of but should...

I'm not saying this is per-se the case here, it's just a wake-up call for fellow collectors...
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« Reply #33 on: August 06, 2009, 10:33:01 am »
They had an alarm system (look at what was inside, I mean, come on) and all kinds of precautions, but it was very difficult for the firefighters to fight that blaze because of the structure. My post was saying that all of that didn't matter much in this case.

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« Reply #34 on: August 06, 2009, 10:39:09 am »
Thanks everyone for clearing up the picture of how insurance works in this instance, but it still remains that if it was the case insurance was unlikely, I personally would not take the gamble of living there. No-one expects it to happen, but even if there is a small chance I wouldn't be able to disregard it. I guess after having an unexpected stroke at a young age, I tend to err everything on the side of caution as with that I often thought if I'd made even small precautions it may never have happened and I'd still have proper use of the left side of my body.

Regardless of whether insurance was approvable or not, if it wasn't insured I would have had doubts about even living there as it's gambling with both your money and your life.

Erm, insurance isn't going to save your life in a fire.  It helps you rebuild.  It does nothing to get you out of the burning building.

Not what I meant. By 'life' I don't just mean health, I mean losing a home is like losing 'your life'. Without a home you don't have much of a life, you're back at square one more often than not.

Whatever the situation, I wish them the best and hope they get back on their feet soon. If I was in the US I'd contribute myself by building a cab to give to him. It's no consolation for the loss of classics (or your home!) but it'd get his collection re-started.

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« Reply #35 on: August 06, 2009, 10:52:06 am »


   If I may make one point on the material side of things....Insurance or no insurance, there is no bringing back those cabinets, especially the rare ones like the number matching Defender.   

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« Reply #36 on: August 06, 2009, 10:53:46 am »
I personally would not take the gamble of living there.

Sometimes you don't have a choice where to live, especially if your family gives you a building they already own. Why go elsewhere? Fires are unpredictable. It's not like they lived in a tinderbox that was just waiting to go up in flames. No manner of readiness can actually prepare you for something like this. What the fire didn't get, the water did.

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That's a kind sentiment, though a MAME cab would never have been allowed in that collection ;D

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« Reply #37 on: August 06, 2009, 10:57:00 am »


   If I may make one point on the material side of things....Insurance or no insurance, there is no bringing back those cabinets, especially the rare ones like the number matching Defender.  



Here's a partial list of the games they had:
POPEYE
DK JR
DK
BURGERTIME
MISSLE COMMAND
GALAGA
ASTEROIDS DELUXE
MOON PATROL
JUNO FIRST
GORF
SPACE INVADERS
GRAVITAR
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CENTIPEDE
ROBOTRON
STARGATE
DEFENDER
SUPER PACMAN
PUNCHOUT
ATARI BASKETBALL
KANGAROO
DIGDUG
JUNGLE KING
MS PACMAN
JOUST
FROGGER
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Re: What a horrible loss of machines.......please see post
« Reply #38 on: August 06, 2009, 11:25:37 am »
Keep us posted about the family fund we can all skip our fancy coffee or a trip to Mc Donalds and send it along to them instead.

I live in a hurricane area and its very hard to get insurance here and when you can get it it's not cheap.

You never know when or what can happen my little one came to our room one morning saying there was no power. We checked all the breakers nothing wrong but half the other end of the house had no power. Spent a couple of days going from outlet to outlet checking wiring till a fluke happened and while unplugging a working outlet we got voltage on a dead circuit. We traced the fault finally from that outlet to a unused outlet behind a bookcase and when we took the cover off the insulation was gone (burnt) at least 2 inches into the wall.

We were very lucky since there was no prior warnings that there was a issue and were able to re wire the series. While we were at it we replaced all the outlets also just be sure the wiring was ok and to have a little peace of mind.

Once again please keep us posted this could have easily been one of us, I hate to see the loss of the games but at least they are safe.
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« Reply #39 on: August 06, 2009, 12:22:29 pm »
Here's a partial list of the games they had:

Dragons Lair   :'(
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« Reply #40 on: August 06, 2009, 12:25:19 pm »
Oh no, I didn't know they'd finally got one!

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« Reply #41 on: August 06, 2009, 12:52:04 pm »
Holy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- what a loss.  I'm so sorry to hear this.

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« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2009, 02:11:04 pm »
Please help the Shaw family get back on their feet. Any size donation would be greatly appreciated. They have lost all but the clothes on their backs.

Donation info, as posted by Dean (Bricktop, who also lost machines in this fire -- several people contributed to that collection):

http://forum.okcoin-op.com/index.php?topic=3464.msg26892#msg26892
OK ALL DONATIONS PLEASE SEND PAYMENT TO PAYPAL ADDRESS:-


EBAY.MACHINES AT NTLWORLD.COM


THIS IS MY ACCOUNT AND PLEASE SEND A MESSAGE TO TERRY ON THE PAYPAL INVOICE.
THAT WAY WHEN I PRINT THE FORM OFF AND HAND HIM THE CASH HE WILL KNOW WHO THE MONEY HAS COME FROM.
IF YOUR WANTING TO DONATE PLEASE DO IT BEFORE SATURDAY SO I CAN PRESENT IT TO HIM SATURDAY NIGHT.

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Re: What a horrible loss of machines.......please see post
« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2009, 02:56:53 pm »
I hope donations arent for buying arcade machines! That would be f'd up. Those should be like the last priority in terms of what they need to spend on to get back on their feet.
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« Reply #44 on: August 06, 2009, 03:14:50 pm »
No, it's for getting back on their feet (unless they plan on living in a Star Wars cockpit). They lost everything. The insides were a total loss.

I just donated. Who's next?
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« Reply #45 on: August 06, 2009, 03:52:50 pm »
Yeah, everyone needs to understand that the "arcade" stuff is what merely brought us all together..... this was someones "home".
So anything and EVERYTHING you can think of in relationship to a home is now gone.
No different from any other house fire.

The game collection will be rebuilt I'm sure over time. Definitely NOT the priority.
They actually do have several machines left that were in the works that were located in another building at the time of the fire.
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I just donated. Who's next?

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« Reply #48 on: August 06, 2009, 11:28:23 pm »
 :cheers:

My contribution is a tiny drop in the bucket that they need to fill ... but, when you are overwhelmed and feel desperately alone (as they must), it can make a huge difference just to know that somebody gives a damn.

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« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2009, 01:58:23 am »
this shows why you should have smoke detectors and extinguishers.

No one was home when the fire started, so what good do those serve at that point?

If it was a converted warehouse, wouldn't it have had a sprinkler system? I thought they were required installs on commercial properties.

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« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2009, 02:04:42 am »
You never know when or what can happen my little one came to our room one morning saying there was no power. We checked all the breakers nothing wrong but half the other end of the house had no power. Spent a couple of days going from outlet to outlet checking wiring till a fluke happened and while unplugging a working outlet we got voltage on a dead circuit. We traced the fault finally from that outlet to a unused outlet behind a bookcase and when we took the cover off the insulation was gone (burnt) at least 2 inches into the wall.

Oh snap, I forgot all about our socket. We have a glass display case with a wall wart and connectors. My son kept pulling on the connectors and sticking things in them so I just pulled the wiring harness from the wall wart and left the wart there. My Fiance did some spring cleaning and pulled the display case out and noticed soot discoloration on the wall plate around the wart. Since I was busy trying to deal with our son and clean elsewhere, I put it off.

Time to check it now.

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« Reply #55 on: August 07, 2009, 07:08:24 am »
You never know when or what can happen my little one came to our room one morning saying there was no power. We checked all the breakers nothing wrong but half the other end of the house had no power. Spent a couple of days going from outlet to outlet checking wiring till a fluke happened and while unplugging a working outlet we got voltage on a dead circuit. We traced the fault finally from that outlet to a unused outlet behind a bookcase and when we took the cover off the insulation was gone (burnt) at least 2 inches into the wall.

Oh snap, I forgot all about our socket. We have a glass display case with a wall wart and connectors. My son kept pulling on the connectors and sticking things in them so I just pulled the wiring harness from the wall wart and left the wart there. My Fiance did some spring cleaning and pulled the display case out and noticed soot discoloration on the wall plate around the wart. Since I was busy trying to deal with our son and clean elsewhere, I put it off.

Time to check it now.

Be sure to check that!


Donation sent, I wish the best for them I know this is a very bad time.
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« Reply #56 on: August 07, 2009, 08:25:14 am »
You guys are all great! Keep 'em comin'!

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« Reply #57 on: August 07, 2009, 08:29:41 am »
this shows why you should have smoke detectors and extinguishers.

No one was home when the fire started, so what good do those serve at that point?

If it was a converted warehouse, wouldn't it have had a sprinkler system? I thought they were required installs on commercial properties.
Even if it did have a sprinkler system at some point, it probably was out of service. Businesses in commercial buildings get Sprinkler systems because the Fire Marshall requires it for occupation, and/or insurance requires it to insure.

Odds are they could have gotten insurance if it had a sprinkler system, but sprinkler systems are not cheap in a structure like that.

If it did have a sprinkler system and was an older building, it was probably a dry system and the pipe had rotted out. The systems have to be inspected yearly - which costs money.

In short, if there wasn't a business permit on file at the city then the Fire Marshall had no reason to check for occupancy, and thus, a working Fire Protection system.

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« Reply #58 on: August 07, 2009, 08:38:34 am »
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Odds are they could have gotten insurance if it had a sprinkler system

Well, the fact that it wasn't zoned for residential use is the biggest culprit in not being able to get insurance.

I don't know about a sprinkler system, but with a collection like that, the last thing I would want is a small fire setting off the sprinklers and ruining everything. Of course, now a big fire has come along and did it, plus a LOT of water.

Troy posted pics of the damage. It's just devastating.
http://forum.okcoin-op.com/index.php?topic=3464.msg26905#msg26905
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« Reply #59 on: August 07, 2009, 09:40:15 am »
Sprinkler is only used in buildings with either lots of people or really big buildings, or those with high risks.

Sprinkler also would have completely totalled the machines. Sprinkler systems are _extremely_ expensive.

There are alternatives that could have put out the fire and save the machines but for a person or a family, these are simply way too costly.

In all honesty I think it's totally irresponsible to live in a building you don't have a permit for. IMHO they should have lived somewhere else where they could get insurance for the home and the inventory of the home.
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« Reply #60 on: August 07, 2009, 10:00:46 am »
Some people can't afford that. They already had a building, transformed it (quite nicely) into a home, and fought to get insurance. No one lives their lives thinking, "That fire is just around the corner".....unless you build your house out of oily rags.

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« Reply #61 on: August 07, 2009, 10:16:13 am »
ANY house can be lost by a fire, it's stupid to NOT think about it, that's what insurances are all about.

Really, I feel for their loss, but stop talking something right that is just not.

If you can afford 500000 in cabs, you should use part of it for a decent home and then get some cabs.

Just MHO.

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« Reply #62 on: August 07, 2009, 10:18:02 am »
If you can afford 500000 in cabs, you should use part of it for a decent home and then get some cabs.

It was four people's collections put together. The owner of the home didn't own the majority of the machines.

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« Reply #63 on: August 07, 2009, 10:43:49 am »
Cut the people some slack I'm sure they have alot going through their minds with what they could have or should have done let alone the loss not just monetarily in games but their home also.

You go from having a house and awesome game room you have dreamed of to being homeless and all you worked for is gone they have a full plate of things to deal with right now.

I wish them well its devastating to see all you had in ruin.
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« Reply #64 on: August 07, 2009, 11:41:41 am »
Just an update:

As of right now, BYOAC has contributed $155.

Thank you all for your generosity.

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(edit: I was off on the amount and corrected it)
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« Reply #68 on: August 07, 2009, 03:48:59 pm »
We've had our disagreements, but this is something we should all be able to agree on. Losing everything you own is just awful. I hate to think it could happen to me, but the truth is, it could happen to any of us.

I haven't seen the numbers since the last two donations, but I'm sure we're probably at over $200 by now!  :applaud:

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« Reply #69 on: August 08, 2009, 12:02:13 am »
Update:
We are at $280 now in the paypal account!  :applaud:

Whatever is in the account by early tomorrow (Saturday) is being given to Terry's family that night.
(But any donations after that will still go to them, just not tomorrow night)

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« Reply #70 on: August 08, 2009, 12:43:49 am »
Before I say anything more and look like an ass. Is the family some place safe and warm? Are they holed up with family, friends, something? In these troubled times, it'll get mighty expensive to be holed up in a motel.

Sprinkler is only used in buildings with either lots of people or really big buildings, or those with high risks.

Sprinkler also would have completely totalled the machines. Sprinkler systems are _extremely_ expensive.

There are alternatives that could have put out the fire and save the machines but for a person or a family, these are simply way too costly.

I really want to pursue this, but I don't want it to degrade into an offshoot discussion here. I'll leave it to the moderators to decide? I'll try my best.

To wit, there was an archive building that stored Civil war documents amongst other things. The Archivists there absolutely did not want sprinkler systems, period. The documents were old and often written with iron ink. Water would destroy some documents base material and/or even "rust" the ink out. So the entire building was constructed without any water sprinkler system or even any fire suppression system at all since the alternatives are too expensive or too hazardous. The documents alone were worth their weight in gold, if not to historians but also to genealogists.

Like this place, the worst happened and a fire started. Just like this building, it was a concrete structure and the fire fed on 100+ year old documents, artifacts and whatever. There was absolutely nothing to stop the fire and it destroyed nearly the entire collection.

Archivists learned a hard lesson and other like buildings were retrofitted with water sprinkler systems or alternative systems where funds could be appropriated. The lesson was simple and painfully obvious.

An unimpeded fire is completely destructive. Once something burns, there is no salvaging it. Water, however, is not always completely destructive and with quick action and basic understanding of the nature of the materials, items can be salvaged. This guy didn't just lose his arcade, but he lost his family photos, clothes, memorabilia, documents, everything. It's very fortunate he still has his life and family, but the reconstruction of his life can just as easily tear a family apart. With water damage, all of that is still recoverable with the exception of mold (which there is a procedure for depending on the severity of the mold and the importance of the item in question).

Besides, a good sprinkler system would not have destroyed every machine. An entire sprinkler system does not "switch on" if there is a fire in a single room. That is inefficient and would probably result in total loss in water pressure anyways.

Every single one of us should learn a good lesson from this. Everyone needs to re-evaulate their safety and take the necessary precautions to protect their family, home and investment (is an arcade cabinet an investment?)

BTW, I just have to say this. That Solar Fox artwork looks sweet. I gotta find me one.

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« Reply #71 on: August 08, 2009, 11:17:45 am »
Nothing like standing back and watching the flames consume a building and the fireman work away and there is not a darn thing you an do.

We lost our business when I was a younger to a fire our portion of the building had to have fire rated walls due to our equipment so the whole place burned to the ground around us.
We had insurance that would have paid for if it burned to the ground but since it didnt they only paid a portion for "smoke damage" and nothing for the water damage.

There is nothing like the smell the plastic the wire the wood it all has its own aroma and the soot you have black sticky glue all over you walking through the place. Then as the days go by there is the wet funky smells the develop.

You get a shovel and start shoveling out your life into a trash bin every once in a  while you find something that is semi legible and you kinda chuckle then you want to cry cause there is no replacing it this was is your life.

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« Reply #72 on: August 09, 2009, 02:21:10 am »
Just got back from the fundraiser.

Between the OKcoin-op forum and the BYOAC forum, we raised $555! Terry was extremely grateful for your contributions! He thanks you all very much and it was a complete surprise to him.

We also auctioned a Galaga with a 48-in-1 in it and the bidding went $100, $150......$800! I think they are still taking bids, but last I heard. $800 was the high bid.

It was a really fun night, even though the UFC PPV was a bit of a let down. We had about 100 people there and more food than anyone could possibly ever eat. Pics and video will be up soon.

Thanks for everything! You've been awesome!  :cheers:

(If you planned on donating, it's not too late. The Shaw family lost everything, so any amount is welcomed!)
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« Reply #73 on: August 09, 2009, 11:35:36 am »
Glad to hear is was a good turnout.  :cheers:

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« Reply #74 on: August 09, 2009, 05:13:02 pm »
no insurance....wow.  That's alot more than a kick to the tenders - that's a wrecking ball shot!

insurance is always a good thing but not everyone can afford it.

one good thing that you can do is to keep all of your super flammable stuff like spray paint, pcb contact cleaner, gasoline, etc etc in an outbuilding provided you have one.







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« Reply #75 on: August 09, 2009, 05:16:54 pm »
Please click the link to the Oklahoma forums what a horrible loss of machines but no one was hurt.

http://forum.okcoin-op.com/index.php?topic=3464.0;topicseen

these people have my condolences. I have a friend in tampa who just had her whole apartment burn up.

it wasnt an arcade collection but an entire Metal collection that got lost. original vinyls and 45s from the 70s and 80s.

everything from little known thrash bands to Metallica demos, gone.

also all of her pictures of hanging out with everyone back then.

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« Reply #76 on: August 10, 2009, 07:48:37 pm »
Here's a partial list of the games they had:

Dragons Lair   :'(

I thought I spied that in one photo, too.

Insurance-wise in a situation like that, you lie about inhabitance if need-be, but he was saying about the collection being an oddity. In that case, you call it a 'museum' or something. Non-profit youth center. Be creative.
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« Reply #77 on: August 10, 2009, 08:12:05 pm »
Here's a partial list of the games they had:

Dragons Lair   :'(

I thought I spied that in one photo, too.

Insurance-wise in a situation like that, you lie about inhabitance if need-be, but he was saying about the collection being an oddity. In that case, you call it a 'museum' or something. Non-profit youth center. Be creative.

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« Reply #78 on: August 10, 2009, 09:07:03 pm »
Here's a partial list of the games they had:

Dragons Lair   :'(

I thought I spied that in one photo, too.

Insurance-wise in a situation like that, you lie about inhabitance if need-be, but he was saying about the collection being an oddity. In that case, you call it a 'museum' or something. Non-profit youth center. Be creative.

they call that fraud

Yeah, insurance companies don't ---fudgesicle--- around if things like fraud, false claim, arsen, etc are mentioned.

However, wasn't that a collection from three different individuals? I thought I read that somewhere. In that case, couldn't it be defined as something else?

Or is the hang up that they actually took up residence there?

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« Reply #79 on: August 11, 2009, 06:45:26 am »
Insurance-wise in a situation like that, you lie about inhabitance if need-be, but he was saying about the collection being an oddity

No, you don't.

It's pretty clear that your experience with women is surpassed only by your experience with insurance.  :dizzy:

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« Reply #80 on: August 11, 2009, 01:28:28 pm »
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Can't believe everyone still discussing the ---gosh-darn--- insurance. If you read the article linked to WAY UP in the beginning of this thread, the guy SAYS he tried several times to get insurance but was turned down. Insurance companies do whatever is in their favor. That means turning down or charging an arm and leg for what they deem high risk or unclassifiable categories.

I run an online business and just "liability" insurance runs $8000 per year, just to cover the risk of what if some kid gets harassed through our site and the parents sue.

The guy didnt own the place, other relatives did. Let me ask any of you, if you're offered a space like that to live, would you turn it down (considering you can't afford your own house)? I sure as hell wouldn't turn it down. It was probably a real bargain too since its owned by relatives. But seeing as how I wouldn't own the place, I'd just be renting, I wouldn't be spending 5 figures on upgrading it. (When's the last time you upgraded an apartment you didn't own??)

I suggest the critics who are also renters go look at their lease agreements. Chances are it says you need to have apt content insurance, but I bet you don't. Most people don't, and most landlords dont enforce the clause until something happens.
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« Reply #81 on: August 11, 2009, 04:13:57 pm »
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Can't believe everyone still discussing the ---gosh-darn--- insurance.
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Yeah, once it was said that he couldn't get insurance, even though he tried, that part of the conversation should've been dropped.

We're just trying to help a fellow arcade enthusiast get his life back together.

Edit: the post below has a link that doesn't work, so here's the current working link  http://www.robohara.com/?p=1175
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« Reply #82 on: August 11, 2009, 04:31:53 pm »
Here is some pics from Rob Ohara's page it really shows how much was lost.  :-\

http://www.robohara.com/photo/index.php?album=Arcade/Gameday_at_Troys
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« Reply #83 on: August 11, 2009, 05:30:41 pm »
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Can't believe everyone still discussing the ---gosh-darn--- insurance. If you read the article linked to WAY UP in the beginning of this thread, the guy SAYS he tried several times to get insurance but was turned down. Insurance companies do whatever is in their favor. That means turning down or charging an arm and leg for what they deem high risk or unclassifiable categories.

Thank you Ray..... I was on the verge of not being quite so nice about it.

I run an online business and just "liability" insurance runs $8000 per year

Damn, at those rates I would have assumed there was some sort of liability due to someone possibly going blind or getting an eye poked out.

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« Reply #84 on: August 11, 2009, 05:54:15 pm »
What a horrible thing to happen, I can't even begin to imagine how I would cope if everything I owned was lost. Donated what I can. Who's next?

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Thanks for the donation, mate!

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« Reply #86 on: August 11, 2009, 10:26:00 pm »
HELLO EVERYONE..MY NAME IS TROY..I AM ONE OF THE OWNERS OF THE MACHINES THAT WERE DESTROYED IN THE FIRE THAT THIS THREAD IS ABOUT..FIRST AND FOREMOST I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE HERE THAT HAS DONATED ON BEALHF OF TERRY AND HIS FAMILY..HE IS TRUELY OVERWHELMED WITH PEOPLES GENEROSITY..I WILL TRY TO CLEAR UP SOME THINGS THAT I HAVE READ IN THIS THREAD..NONE AND I MEAN NONE OF THE MONIES THAT HAVE BEEN DONATED TO THEM WHETHER HERE OR LOCALLY IS BEING OR WILL BE USED TO DO ANYTHING BUT TRY TO REBUILD THEIR LIVES..PEOPLE HAVE MADE COMMENTS THAT THEY WERE THINKING THAT THE MONIES WERE GOING TO BE USED TO BUY MACHINES..NOTHING IS FURTHER FROM THE TRUTH..I THINK GINSU VICTIM AND KEVIN MULLINS CAN VOUCH FOR THAT..AS FOR THE INSURANCE ASPECT..THAT IS WHERE IT GETS WEIRD..THE PROBLEM WAS THAT INSURANCE AGENTS COULD NOT FIGURE OUT HOW TO WRITE THE POLICY..(CLASSIFICATION, AND WHAT EVER THE OTHER THINGS ARE THEY LOOK AT)..HE FOUND A COMPANY THAT SAID THEY WOULD WRITE IT AND THEY TOLD HIM TO PUT A HANDRAIL AROUND THE PORCH..AFTER HE DID THAT, THEY CAME OUT AND WANTED SOME CLEAN UP AND CHANGES TO BE MADE IN THE SIDE LOT NEXT TO THE BUILDING..AFTER WE DID THAT THEY CAME OUT ONCE AGAIN AND DECIDED THEY WANTED A ROOM OF THE BUILDING THAT WAS EMPTY AND UNFINISHED TO BE DONE BEFORE THEY WOULD INSURE..AT THE TIME OF THE FIRE WE HAD ABOUT 2 DAYS WORTH OF WORK IN COMPLETING WHAT THEY REQUESTED..IT SEEMED LIKE THEY WERE TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO NOT WRITE THE POLICY.. ALL OF THIS TOOK PLACE OVER THE LAST 6 TO 8 MONTHS..AS FOR SOMEONE LIVING IN A WAREHOUSE..THE CITY IS PUSHING TO REVITALIZE THE DOWNTOWN AND INDUSTRIAL AREA AND ARE ALLOWING PEOPLE TO BUILD APTS, FLATS, HOMES, OR WHAT EVER YOU WANT TO CALL THEM HERE..THERE WAS NO SPRINKLER SYSTEM IN THE BUILDING..IT WAS BUILT IN THE 40'S AND HIS FAMILY HAD OWNED IT SINCE THE 60'S..HE DID HAVE A ALARM SYSTEM WITH SMOKE DETECTORS..WHICH DID NOT NOTIFY ANYONE..(ACCORDING TO THE ALARM COMPANY ITSELF) I WAS DRIVING BY AROUND 4 P.M. AND SAW THE SMOKE COMING FROM THE ROOF..NOT ALOT JUST A LITTLE..I WENT INSIDE AND THE BUILDING WAS NOT SMOKEY AND DID NOT EVEN HAVE THE SMELL OF SMOKE..I BACKED OUT AND CALLED 911..LESS THAN 5 MINUTES LATER IT WAS APPARENT IT WAS GOING TO BE A TOTAL LOSS..THERE WERE MANY ANTIQUES, FAMILY HEIRLOOMS, ETC..THE ARCADE GAMES WERE OWNED BY FOUR DIFFERENT COLLECTORS..THE GAMES (EVEN THOUGH BEING ABOVE AVERAGE AND 95% RESTORED) REALLY DONT MEAN ANYTHING TO ANY OF US RIGHT NOW.. IN THIS SITUTATION WE ARE JUST THANKFUL NO ONE WAS HURT..TERRY AND HIS FAMILY, FIRE FIGHTERS, AND THANK GOD WE WEREN'T HAVING A PARTY AT THE TIME IT HAPPENED..

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR YOUR GENEROSITY AND WELL WISHES..

TROY

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« Reply #87 on: August 11, 2009, 11:04:11 pm »
Here is an easier to read version (removed all caps and added paragraph breaks):

hello everyone..my name is Troy.. I am one of the owners of the machines that were destroyed in the fire that this thread is about..first and foremost i would like to thank everyone here that has donated on behalf of terry and his family..he is truly overwhelmed with peoples generosity..i will try to clear up some things that i have read in this thread..none and i mean none of the monies that have been donated to them whether here or locally is being or will be used to do anything but try to rebuild their lives..people have made comments that they were thinking that the monies were going to be used to buy machines..nothing is further from the truth..i think Ginsu Victim and Kevin Mullins can vouch for that.

as for the insurance aspect..that is where it gets weird..the problem was that insurance agents could not figure out how to write the policy..(classification, and what ever the other things are they look at)..he found a company that said they would write it and they told him to put a handrail around the porch..after he did that, they came out and wanted some clean up and changes to be made in the side lot next to the building..after we did that they came out once again and decided they wanted a room of the building that was empty and unfinished to be done before they would insure.

at the time of the fire we had about 2 days worth of work in completing what they requested..it seemed like they were trying to find a way to not write the policy.. all of this took place over the last 6 to 8 months..as for someone living in a warehouse..the city is pushing to revitalize the downtown and industrial area and are allowing people to build apts, flats, homes, or what ever you want to call them here..there was no sprinkler system in the building..it was built in the 40's and his family had owned it since the 60's..he did have a alarm system with smoke detectors..which did not notify anyone..(according to the alarm company itself) i was driving by around 4 p.m. and saw the smoke coming from the roof..not a lot just a little..i went inside and the building was not smokey and did not even have the smell of smoke..i backed out and called 911..less than 5 minutes later it was apparent it was going to be a total loss..there were many antiques, family heirlooms, etc.

the arcade games were owned by four different collectors..the games (even though being above average and 95% restored) really don't mean anything to any of us right now.. in this situation are just thankful no one was hurt..terry and his family, fire fighters, and thank god we weren't having a party at the time it happened..

thank you again for your generosity and well wishes..

Troy

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« Reply #88 on: August 12, 2009, 12:48:17 am »
In this particular instance I must say I actually liked the all caps...... brings the attention directly to a relevant post.
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I think this pic sums it all up at the moment.
(taken at the scene btw)
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« Reply #89 on: August 12, 2009, 01:52:48 am »
 :applaud:

Heres to everyone on the BYOAC!!  :cheers:

In less than a week ive raised more than $1000 in personal paypal donations.
(that might even be enough money for Terry to get a hair cut!  ;)   )
Thats F*****G awsome! especially since ive never met any of you guys, Im really amazed at peoples kindness.
I wanted to wait until troy posted before I said anything,  but all i really wanted to stress is that this isnt a fund to replace a bunch of old games. Which I think troy made the point allready.

Good things come out of stuff like this, and I am buzzed up, ready to go, the collection will be replaced, the arcade will return and i think Troy and terry will agree that there will be one hell of a party. We'll be back, in the meantime I really do want to thank everyone who has supported this so far, you guys are great!!!

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« Reply #91 on: August 12, 2009, 11:12:06 am »
I have added the above link to Digg. Please Digg it! Hopefully it will lead to more donations.

http://digg.com/gaming_news/Home_with_HUGE_arcade_collection_burns_to_the_ground

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« Reply #92 on: August 12, 2009, 05:38:45 pm »
Insurance-wise in a situation like that, you lie about inhabitance if need-be, but he was saying about the collection being an oddity

No, you don't.

It's pretty clear that your experience with women is surpassed only by your experience with insurance.  :dizzy:



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« Reply #93 on: August 12, 2009, 05:44:07 pm »
No more of this. The PM idea is a great one.

CheffoJeffo:
Ignore him or PM him, but don't continue this crap in this thread.

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« Reply #94 on: August 13, 2009, 12:43:58 am »
Just wanted to let you guys know that i'll be blogging the news regarding the arcade. Hopefully some articles by Rob O'hara and myself will be of interest. Troy and Terry are going to rebuild and im going to concerntrate on sourcing the games that were lost. So if your interetsed on following our adventures in Arcade collecting hell then please feel free to check out the Pheonix blog.

http://pheonixarcade.blogspot.com/

Once again thank you for everyones support.
it really is driving the project to return.


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« Reply #95 on: August 13, 2009, 09:33:18 am »

Please don't forget to blog on the people.  They are more important than that arcade.

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Please don't forget to blog on the people.  They are more important than that arcade.

That's the idea. It's about both. I'll also be contributing.

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So if your interetsed on following our adventures in Arcade collecting hell then please feel free to check out the Pheonix blog.

http://pheonixarcade.blogspot.com/

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« Reply #98 on: August 13, 2009, 11:32:12 pm »
sorry for the typo its edited now and should be ok.

anyone interested in getting their hands on a 25" multigame machine should check out the blog, we'll be giving one away to raise funds at a silent auction this weekend at Guys and Dolls in Lawton. There will also be all sorts of other goodies for auction donated by local businesses.

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« Reply #99 on: August 14, 2009, 12:26:45 am »
Fenix ......  :laugh2:
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Correct spelling now registered

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« Reply #101 on: August 17, 2009, 11:10:27 am »
local news had some footage of the fundraiser and also says about arcade collectors donations.
thanks again to everyone whos helped.

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Re: What a horrible loss of machines.......please see post
« Reply #102 on: August 17, 2009, 12:29:51 pm »
"benefit"

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Re: What a horrible loss of machines.......please see post
« Reply #103 on: August 17, 2009, 12:42:51 pm »
Here's Terry thanking everyone before we presented him the money

Edit: The video seems to be gone.
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« Reply #104 on: August 17, 2009, 08:42:47 pm »
Very cool, Kirk!  My donation has been sent to the Shaw family.  I wish them the very best. 
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« Reply #105 on: August 17, 2009, 08:44:47 pm »
It's definitely appreciated. (If you watched the videos from above, you can see that)

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« Reply #106 on: August 19, 2009, 11:49:52 pm »
Bumping this back to the top. If you haven't donated, please consider it.

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Re: What a horrible loss of machines.......please see post
« Reply #107 on: September 07, 2009, 08:45:39 pm »
Demolition of the property began at 7:00am this past Saturday. Here are some pics:













That last pic is Terry (or his twin brother -- hell, no one can tell 'em apart) holding a smoke detector. The battery still worked. :lol

Donations are still being accepted. Thanks for looking.
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Re: What a horrible loss of machines.......please see post
« Reply #108 on: September 25, 2009, 11:20:31 am »
While Bricktop was on vacation in Florida....

Today Billy kindly signed a Lawton Game not Over T-Shirt, he even said a few words to Troy on the phone.


Billy is one of the coolest people Ive met, nothing like the person he is made to look like in the 2007 documentary "The King of Kong". Billy even sent me home with some of Ricky's Famous Hot sauce for Terry to check out.. The T-shirt will be mounted and framed and take pride of place above the Pacman machine when the new place is completed. Hopefully Billy will come visit the arcade, have a couple of beers and perhaps even few games of Pacman.


The yellow shirt being signed is Bricktop's, and the white one will go on the wall.
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« Reply #109 on: February 17, 2010, 12:27:54 pm »
Any updates on this?

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« Reply #110 on: February 17, 2010, 01:03:30 pm »
They never did say what caused it, did they?

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« Reply #111 on: February 17, 2010, 01:17:26 pm »
Don't think so.

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« Reply #112 on: February 17, 2010, 08:36:27 pm »
Wow, you're right. At the time of starting this thread, we hadn't been told the cause, but found out shortly thereafter.

It was a short in a light socket in one of the bedrooms that caused the fire.

Currently, Terry is still trying to get the plans together so he can build a new home on his twin brother's property on the outskirts of town. He is also planning a HUGE arcade and his friends have been doing warehouse raids to get machines for it (keep in mind, he wasn't the only one to lose machines in the fire -- there were at least three other people who had games there and they want to rebuild as much as anyone). He has had a tough time and immensely appreciated the outpouring of help from the community. Slowly but surely, he is getting back on his feet and moving on with his life.

Donations are still welcome. :)
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« Reply #113 on: August 05, 2010, 05:09:19 pm »
One year anniversary (as of yesterday) bump!

The blog is still going at http://phoenixarcade.blogspot.com

The new house is being built, meanwhile in a separate location, the games are being gathered and stored for the future arcade.

Thanks again to all those who have helped and for your kind words over the last year.